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10-02-2021, 12:13 PM
Mesoman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sterling Archer

Unfortunately I don't have any Georgian Jewish samples(and I don't know why the Georgian Jewish average was removed from vahaduo).
Armenian and Assyrian results have been posted already. To be frank I don't find their results very interesting as they are fairly homogeneous groups.

Here is another mountain jew from the same region of Azerbaijan. They do score somehow similar to Assyrians and Armenians. I have seen some who score almost indistinguishable from the Assyrians.

Gedrosia 17.37 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 3.28 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 11.28 Pct
North_European 2.52 Pct
South_Asian 3.12 Pct
East_African 0.9 Pct
Southwest_Asian 19.06 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 42.45 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Mount_jew
4.56600482 Mandean
4.83707556 Kurdish_Jew
5.08948917 Iraqi_Jew
5.39440451 Assyrian_South
5.51413638 Azeri_Jew
5.81529879 Assyrian_West
5.94172534 Assyrian_North
6.25391877 Iraqi_Baghdad
7.43150725 Nusayri_Turkey
7.44718067 Lebanese_Muslim
8.67630682 Armenian_West
8.74819981 Turkmen_Iraq
8.91323174 Lebanese_Christian
9.35990385 Syrian_Muslim
10.02326793 Turk_East
10.64984037 Turk_Southeast
10.70428886 Arab_Iran
10.71591807 Kurd_Kurmanji
10.78852631 Armenian_East
11.27542904 Palestinian_Christian
11.40299961 Dersim
11.62993981 Syrian_SW_Christian
11.85993676 Palestinian
11.92922881 Iraqi_Arab
11.94851455 Udi_Azerbaijan

Most Assyrians are homogeneous, even Armenians for that matter. Even though most mizrahis are homogeneous they still plot differently with other populations and each other. That's okay if you don't have Georgian Jewish samples.
10-02-2021, 12:53 PM
Mesoman

Quote:

Originally Posted by RatCat

For example one of them, a Georgian Jew

Population
Gedrosia 17.59 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 1.73 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 8.35 Pct
North_European 5.82 Pct
South_Asian 0.38 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 18.19 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 47.91 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: ***
4.40386194 Azeri_Jew
4.52952536 Assyrian_North
4.87841163 Assyrian_South
4.88155713 Assyrian_West
5.45609751 Armenian_West
5.68883116 Armenian_East
6.92017341 Kurdish_Jew
7.49259635 Turk_East
7.84125628 Mandean
7.89233806 Iraqi_Jew
8.32666200 Udi
10.14414117 Zaza
10.31898251 Greek_Pontus
10.36815798 Turk_East_Black_Sea
10.65133325 Turk_Ahiska
11.23340554 Nusayri_Turkey
11.44471931 Iraqi_Baghdad
11.44558867 Hemshin
11.50396888 Turkmen_Iraq
11.67571839 Kurd_Kurmanji
12.12684625 Kurd_Adygea
12.24198922 Azerbaijani_Turkey
12.26352723 Kurd_Sorani
12.30140642 Lebanese_Christian
12.33741869 Talysh_Azerbaijan

Target: ***
Distance: 2.1662% / 2.16618402 | R2P
72.4 Kurdish_Jew
27.6 Abkhazian

Target: ***
Distance: 1.0960% / 1.09604853 | R3P
57.9 Turk_Ahiska
27.8 Assyrian_North
14.3 Saudi

Target: ***
Distance: 1.2566% / 1.25657683 | ADC: 0.25x RC
49.1 Azeri_Jew
25.1 Abkhazian
16.8 Armenian_East
8.8 Kuwait2
0.2 Chechen

Another one of them

Target: *7*7
Distance: 1.0365% / 1.03650585 | ADC: 0.25x RC
40.2 Armenian_East
29.2 Abkhazian
19.6 Azeri_Jew
5.9 Yemenite_Mahra
5.1 Kuwait2

I assume this result belongs to a 100% Georgian Jew who is a match of that 75% Georgian Jew. If that guy's 25% comes from western Georgia then he is my genetical twin.
10-04-2021, 11:30 AM
Sterling Archer

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mesoman

Most Assyrians are homogeneous, even Armenians for that matter. Even though most mizrahis are homogeneous they still plot differently with other populations and each other. That's okay if you don't have Georgian Jewish samples.

Another mountain jew from Azerbaijan. This one is even closer to Assyrians:
Az_jew,18.31,0, 0.76,0,9.76,2.48,1.11,0.35,21.15,0.35,45.79,0

Distance to: Az_jew
2.47537876 Kurdish_Jew
2.64202574 Azeri_Jew
2.67693855 Assyrian_South
2.85571357 Assyrian_North
3.30945615 Assyrian_West
3.41328288 Iraqi_Jew
3.68266208 Mandean
6.99147338 Armenian_West
9.08851473 Iraqi_Baghdad
9.51299637 Armenian_East
9.65155428 Nusayri_Turkey
10.00733231 Lebanese_Christian
10.56519285 Turk_East
10.79396127 Turkmen_Iraq
10.89097333 Lebanese_Muslim
11.83719561 Udi_Azerbaijan
11.86986099 Syrian_Muslim
12.19802033 Kurd_Kurmanji
12.22973017 Palestinian_Christian
12.58363620 Syrian_SW_Christian
12.63347933 Dersim
12.87088187 Arab_Iran
13.15922870 Turk_Southeast
13.27592935 Greek_Pontus
13.40333541 Jordanian_Christian
10-04-2021, 12:35 PM
Lucas

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sterling Archer

Unfortunately I don't have any Georgian Jewish samples(and I don't know why the Georgian Jewish average was removed from vahaduo).
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I checked on archive.org, there wasn't such ref on D12 never.
10-04-2021, 12:38 PM
Sterling Archer

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucas

I checked on archive.org, there wasn't such ref on D12 never.

Hmm.. Might be I'm mixing it with the original spreadsheet. I just had a look, and the average is there.
10-04-2021, 08:06 PM
Mesoman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sterling Archer

Another mountain jew from Azerbaijan. This one is even closer to Assyrians:
Az_jew,18.31,0, 0.76,0,9.76,2.48,1.11,0.35,21.15,0.35,45.79,0

Distance to: Az_jew
2.47537876 Kurdish_Jew
2.64202574 Azeri_Jew
2.67693855 Assyrian_South
2.85571357 Assyrian_North
3.30945615 Assyrian_West
3.41328288 Iraqi_Jew
3.68266208 Mandean
6.99147338 Armenian_West
9.08851473 Iraqi_Baghdad
9.51299637 Armenian_East
9.65155428 Nusayri_Turkey
10.00733231 Lebanese_Christian
10.56519285 Turk_East
10.79396127 Turkmen_Iraq
10.89097333 Lebanese_Muslim
11.83719561 Udi_Azerbaijan
11.86986099 Syrian_Muslim
12.19802033 Kurd_Kurmanji
12.22973017 Palestinian_Christian
12.58363620 Syrian_SW_Christian
12.63347933 Dersim
12.87088187 Arab_Iran
13.15922870 Turk_Southeast
13.27592935 Greek_Pontus
13.40333541 Jordanian_Christian

I assume it says az_jew next to distance to because this Mountain Jewish sample is from Azerbaijan... Anyways, thanks for posting another mizrahi result. If you have any Iraqi Jewish, Kurdish Jewish, Iranian Jewish and Azeri Jewish samples, posting them would be highly appreciated.
10-04-2021, 08:52 PM
Sterling Archer

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mesoman

I assume it says az_jew next to distance to because this Mountain Jewish sample is from Azerbaijan... Anyways, thanks for posting another mizrahi result. If you have any Iraqi Jewish, Kurdish Jewish, Iranian Jewish and Azeri Jewish samples, posting them would be highly appreciated.

Yes, this is a mountain jew from Azerbaijan(the same region as the previous person).
I'll post other Jewish results if I find them. There are quite a few of them on gedmatch.
10-04-2021, 08:55 PM
Mesoman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sterling Archer

Yes, this is a mountain jew from Azerbaijan(the same region as the previous person).
I'll post other Jewish results if I find them. There are quite a few of them on gedmatch.

Cool!
10-06-2021, 12:16 AM
Lucas

Academic Mountain Jews from Dagestan :thumb001:

Code:

Filename,Gedrosia,Siberian,Northwest_African,Southeast_Asian,Atlantic_Med,North_European,South_Asian,East_African,Southwest_Asian,East_Asian,Caucasus,Sub_Saharan MJ1,12.62,1.24,2.19,0,13.55,11.26,0,0.22,18.52,0.12,40.28,0 MJ2,17.48,0,0.89,0.56,8.36,5.15,0.44,0.19,22.3,0,44.63,0 MJ3,19.07,0,0.3,2.29,6.94,4.38,0.29,1,21.42,0,44.31,0 MJ4,16.99,0.33,0.08,1.03,6.36,4.09,0,0,20.61,0,50.26,0.26 MJ5,19.31,0,2.57,1.35,7.86,3.17,1.52,0.53,19.32,0,44.38,0 MJ6,18.28,0,1.34,0,9.27,3.82,0.71,0.92,20.81,0.49,44.36,0 MJ7,11.53,3.1,0.83,0,15.06,30.17,0.94,0.29,10.58,1.29,26.21,0 MJ8,15.9,0.24,1.15,0,11.05,3.26,1.25,0,21.92,0,45.23,0 MJ9,18.49,0,2.88,1.1,11.23,1.43,1.1,0,16.86,1.82,44.96,0.14 MJ10,15.94,0.07,1.41,0.29,10.35,1.5,0.25,1.13,21.38,0,47.59,0.08 MJ11,14.92,0,2.22,0,11.73,8,0,0,16.9,3.33,42.71,0.18 MJ12,15.9,0,1.44,0,7.2,2.5,1.07,0,19.01,2.5,49.97,0.4 MJ13,19.75,0.05,1.82,0,8.97,0.82,1.21,1.79,18.71,0.31,46.58,0 MJ14,19.19,0,3.29,1.43,10.39,2.88,0,0.38,17.82,0,44.61,0 MJ15,16.95,0,2.37,1.36,10.29,1.08,0.06,0,19.13,0.19,48.57,0 MJ16,20.56,0.34,0.08,0,11.3,1.47,0,0,20.44,0.62,45.06,0.14 MJ17,16.18,0.86,2.15,0,9.59,3.44,0.09,0,17.52,2.28,47.89,0 MJ18,19.22,0.22,3.78,0,5.95,6.3,0,0,17.39,0.09,47.05,0
10-06-2021, 08:03 AM
Mesoman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucas

Academic Mountain Jews from Dagestan :thumb001:

Code:

Filename,Gedrosia,Siberian,Northwest_African,Southeast_Asian,Atlantic_Med,North_European,South_Asian,East_African,Southwest_Asian,East_Asian,Caucasus,Sub_Saharan MJ1,12.62,1.24,2.19,0,13.55,11.26,0,0.22,18.52,0.12,40.28,0 MJ2,17.48,0,0.89,0.56,8.36,5.15,0.44,0.19,22.3,0,44.63,0 MJ3,19.07,0,0.3,2.29,6.94,4.38,0.29,1,21.42,0,44.31,0 MJ4,16.99,0.33,0.08,1.03,6.36,4.09,0,0,20.61,0,50.26,0.26 MJ5,19.31,0,2.57,1.35,7.86,3.17,1.52,0.53,19.32,0,44.38,0 MJ6,18.28,0,1.34,0,9.27,3.82,0.71,0.92,20.81,0.49,44.36,0 MJ7,11.53,3.1,0.83,0,15.06,30.17,0.94,0.29,10.58,1.29,26.21,0 MJ8,15.9,0.24,1.15,0,11.05,3.26,1.25,0,21.92,0,45.23,0 MJ9,18.49,0,2.88,1.1,11.23,1.43,1.1,0,16.86,1.82,44.96,0.14 MJ10,15.94,0.07,1.41,0.29,10.35,1.5,0.25,1.13,21.38,0,47.59,0.08 MJ11,14.92,0,2.22,0,11.73,8,0,0,16.9,3.33,42.71,0.18 MJ12,15.9,0,1.44,0,7.2,2.5,1.07,0,19.01,2.5,49.97,0.4 MJ13,19.75,0.05,1.82,0,8.97,0.82,1.21,1.79,18.71,0.31,46.58,0 MJ14,19.19,0,3.29,1.43,10.39,2.88,0,0.38,17.82,0,44.61,0 MJ15,16.95,0,2.37,1.36,10.29,1.08,0.06,0,19.13,0.19,48.57,0 MJ16,20.56,0.34,0.08,0,11.3,1.47,0,0,20.44,0.62,45.06,0.14 MJ17,16.18,0.86,2.15,0,9.59,3.44,0.09,0,17.52,2.28,47.89,0 MJ18,19.22,0.22,3.78,0,5.95,6.3,0,0,17.39,0.09,47.05,0

There is a huge variation and differences in between the individuals as if some of them represented different ethnicities. It would be awesome if those many samples were available for Georgian Jews.

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