v2.6 ancient (refined)

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Originally Posted by Feiichy

They could have been ethnic Serbs from Croatia with Croatian identity, it was not rare back than. Or Croatian converts to orthodoxy, but I find that less likely (it was more common in Bosnia). Interesting family history btw. I have lot of relatives in Chile and Argentina as well.

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The ustasha created a croatian-orthodox church is that true and what do you think of it?

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Originally Posted by Mortimer

The ustasha created a croatian-orthodox church is that true and what do you think of it?

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Great idea, it should exist today as well since orthodox churches are national. Poland, a Catholic nation, has own Orthodox church: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_Orthodox_Church

DNAGenics looks more refined

https://i.postimg.cc/66SNGQ37/Screen...075622-746.png

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Originally Posted by Feiichy

Yes, but Serbs are extremely overtested (and have own DNA project), Croats much less. If we knew the surname it would be more clear.

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Its Jurkiewicz, but my grandpa said it was a bit Polonized when his ancestor moved to Poland. My closest Y-DNA match is a person from Croatia with similar surname, but when I reached out to him and asked him about our common Croatian origins he claimed that they are all Serbs.

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Originally Posted by Live The Magic

Its Jurkiewicz, but my grandpa said it was a bit Polonized when his ancestor moved to Poland. My closest Y-DNA match is a person from Croatia with similar surname, but when I reached out to him and asked him about our common Croatian origins he claimed that they are all Serbs.

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it could be Jurković, which is Croatian surname. Comes from name Juraj/George, Serbs use rather Đorđe so surname would be Đorđević. But maybe it's another surname, who knows?

btw I found some Serbs with surname Jurković

https://serbiantimes.info/najbogatij...e-pomoc-video/

I would assume their ancestors converted to orthodoxy because Juraj is Croatian version of George.

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Originally Posted by Feiichy

it could be Jurković, which is Croatian surname. Comes from name Juraj/George, Serbs use rather Đorđe so surname would be Đorđević. But maybe it's another surname, who knows?

btw I found some Serbs with surname Jurković

https://serbiantimes.info/najbogatij...e-pomoc-video/

I would assume their ancestors converted to orthodoxy because Juraj is Croatian version of George.

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Why you say these were isolated cases or more Croats converted to Serbs? I see a lot of Serbs in this branch and much less Croats

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Originally Posted by Live The Magic

Why you say these were isolated cases or more Croats converted to Serbs? I see a lot of Serbs in this branch and much less Croats

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In Croatia very rare (except on certain islands). But lot of Catholics converted to orthodoxy (and Islam) in Bosnia. In Croatia proper I would say more Serbs converted to Greek-Catholicism than the opposite.

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Originally Posted by Feiichy

In Croatia very rare (except on certain islands). But lot of Catholics converted to orthodoxy (and Islam) in Bosnia. In Croatia proper I would say more Serbs converted to Greek-Catholicism than the opposite.

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So its safe to say that most of I-PH908 are in the fact descendents of early Croats and that guys like this Serb match of mine is imagining or just does not want to admit that he might've had Croatian ancestor?

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Originally Posted by Live The Magic

So its safe to say that most of I-PH908 are in the fact descendents of early Croats and that guys like this Serb match of mine is imagining or just does not want to admit that he might've had Croatian ancestor?

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I don't see why should this particular clade be only Croat or Serb. It's a Slav lineage that had massive demographic expansion in western dinaric alps. And descendants are both Serbs and Croats. My father is PH908 too, and in his clade exist Croats, Serbs, Bosnian muslims, Poles, Russians, Ukrainians, even one Finn and Albanian.

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Originally Posted by Feiichy

I don't see why should this particular clade be only Croat or Serb. It's a Slav lineage that had massive demographic expansion in western dinaric alps. And descendants are both Serbs and Croats. My father is PH908 too, and in his clade exist Croats, Serbs, Bosnian muslims, Poles, Russians, Ukrainians, even one Finn and Albanian.

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Ok, so I guess I-PH908 can be from early formation of Slavs