They're all 8-10% North European, so somewhat higher than Iranians.
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They're all 8-10% North European, so somewhat higher than Iranians.
The first one 100% is. I got that confirmed.
Not sure about the other one, but tbh i think 1/2 of the entire south east/south iran(hormuzgan, bandar abbas and many kermanis) are just balochs. Seen the results of bandar abbas samples and 2/3 of them just looks like balochs themselves
I wonder why people fron coastal iran have a lot of african in der genetics. Comes it from pre iranic age or just because slave trade ?
I think they probably either have Arab ancestry or slave tradeQuote:
Originally Posted by Gecko
Also you can look up for individual Kırşehir results(it also shows the East Eurasian total of individuals):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...pbY/edit#gid=0
Their results look no different than other Anatolian Turks
Do you happen to know if the former user Prinses is included in that sheet? I believe she was from NE Turkey, very high Caucasus score and virtually no Mongoloid. I cannot find her Dodecad results, only Harappa. I personally find those assimilated communities very interesting (no mong and high Caucasus).
Turk from Drama, Greece
https://i.ibb.co/FDc64dp/88953907-13...81084416-n.jpg
I don't know who are included, just found it on another forumQuote:
Originally Posted by Leto
This is pretty much how mine would look if my maternal ancestry was from Central Iran and not the coast, I think. Even the single population sharing is almost identical for the first five or so
# Population (source) Distance
1 Iranians (Behar) 4.75
2 Iranian (Dodecad) 6.48
3 Kurd (Dodecad) 6.85
4 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 8.48
5 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 12.71
6 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 14.89
7 Turks (Behar) 16.75
8 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 18.15
9 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 18.39
10 Turkish (Dodecad) 18.78
11 Assyrian (Dodecad) 19.08
12 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 19.22
13 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 19.25
14 Lebanese (Behar) 19.76
15 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 20.8
16 Syrians (Behar) 21.13
17 Armenian (Dodecad) 21.58
18 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 21.95
19 Jordanians (Behar) 22.93
20 Druze (HGDP) 23.93
Yes i know and Sora could also be right, arabian influence especially in khuzestan province. Otherwise the gulf arabs are most iranian influenced people of all arab people(maybe some libanese too).
@Sora, thanks for the link but i already know that. Its just curious, why kirikkale, yozgat and kirsehir show low east asian. In my knowledge there were lot of turkmen tribes, for example my grandmother saud to me she and the father of my mum are karacakurt turkmens(begtili tribe). She has a family who better pass as native american some looks like uzbek, but my my mum definitely doesnt look so, she better pass to iran or azerbaijan, afghanistan and i am more atypical for that region. Not even the turks here recognize me as a turk, the italians think i am italian:). Some turks think i am from tranzon or egean.
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Atlantic_Med 41.41
2 North_European 26.91
3 Caucasus 14.17
4 Southwest_Asian 5.58
5 Northwest_African 5.21
6 Gedrosia 3.14
7 Sub_Saharan 1.39
8 East_African 1.37
9 Siberian 0.49
10 South_Asian 0.3
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Galicia (1000Genomes) 8.05
2 Portuguese (Dodecad) 9.04
3 Baleares (1000Genomes) 9.21
4 Extremadura (1000Genomes) 9.23
5 N_Italian (Dodecad) 9.68
6 North_Italian (HGDP) 10.52
7 Castilla_Y_Leon (1000Genomes) 11.22
8 Murcia (1000Genomes) 11.6
9 Cataluna (1000Genomes) 12.32
10 Canarias (1000Genomes) 12.34
11 Spanish (Dodecad) 12.63
12 Spaniards (Behar) 12.68
13 French (HGDP) 12.89
14 French (Dodecad) 13.04
15 Andalucia (1000Genomes) 14.02
16 Cantabria (1000Genomes) 14.36
17 Castilla_La_Mancha (1000Genomes) 14.63
18 Valencia (1000Genomes) 15.28
19 TSI30 (Metspalu) 15.7
20 Aragon (1000Genomes) 16
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 72.7% Portuguese (Dodecad) + 27.3% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.89
2 72.2% Portuguese (Dodecad) + 27.8% Romanians (Behar) @ 2.92
3 74.9% Galicia (1000Genomes) + 25.1% Romanians (Behar) @ 3.01
4 75.5% Galicia (1000Genomes) + 24.5% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.09
5 75.8% Galicia (1000Genomes) + 24.2% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 3.09
6 73.3% Portuguese (Dodecad) + 26.7% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 3.14
7 67.5% Castilla_Y_Leon (1000Genomes) + 32.5% Romanians (Behar) @ 3.43
8 72.2% Extremadura (1000Genomes) + 27.8% Romanians (Behar) @ 3.51
9 68.5% Castilla_Y_Leon (1000Genomes) + 31.5% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 3.57
10 72.8% Extremadura (1000Genomes) + 27.2% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.57
11 68.2% Castilla_Y_Leon (1000Genomes) + 31.8% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.67
12 78.6% Murcia (1000Genomes) + 21.4% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.72
13 73.3% Extremadura (1000Genomes) + 26.7% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 3.73
14 64.8% Spanish (Dodecad) + 35.2% Romanians (Behar) @ 3.86
15 65.8% Spanish (Dodecad) + 34.2% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 3.89
16 69% Murcia (1000Genomes) + 31% Hungarians (Behar) @ 3.91
17 65.4% Spanish (Dodecad) + 34.6% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.95
18 80.7% Murcia (1000Genomes) + 19.3% Russian_B (Behar) @ 4.04
19 67% Murcia (1000Genomes) + 33% Romanians (Behar) @ 4.07
20 85.4% Galicia (1000Genomes) + 14.6% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 4.17
East African Sailors and some brought in by the Portuguese during slave trade. There are also real Sub Saharan Iranians (Afro-Iranians). The large majority of them are concentrated in Hormozgan.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afro-Iranians
Some kind of Iranian Turk (not from Azerbaijan region I think):
Gedrosian: 22.33
Siberian: 1.38
Northwest_African: 0.39
Southeast_Asian: 0.22
Atlantic_Med: 7.70
North_European: 8.77
South_Asian 5.18
East_African 0.71
Southwest_Asian: 13.76
East_Asian: 3.31
Caucasian: 36.15
SSA: 0.00
Distance to: Iran123
4.48185230 Azerbaijani
4.49436314 Azerbaijani_Iran
5.73299224 Kurd_Sorani
5.94485492 Kurd_Kurmanji
6.27986465 Turkmen_Iraq
6.33026066 Azerbaijani_Turkey
6.63735640 Turk_Southeast
6.77941000 Iranian_Fars
7.01526906 Iranian_Zoroastrian
7.54625072 Zaza
7.72477831 Talysh_Azerbaijan
7.95499843 Iran_Central_East
8.33689391 Iran_Khorasan
8.56146600 Lur_Iran
9.19757577 Iranian
9.68232410 Kurd
10.16295725 Turk_South
10.32012597 Turk_Central_East
10.37927743 Kurds
10.42992809 Iranians
11.45448384 Turk_Anatolia
11.50568990 Turk_Central_West
11.80859433 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
11.98668845 Turk_East
12.05269265 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
Target: Iran123
Distance: 1.1611% / 1.16108814 | ADC: 0.25x
61.0 Azerbaijani
19.2 Iran_Central_East
9.2 Kurd_Sorani
4.0 Iran_Khorasan
3.6 Iranian_Fars
1.8 Saudis
0.6 Pulliyar
0.4 Brahmins_from_Uttaranchal
0.2 JPT30
Half Armenian (father), half Azerbaijani (mother), born in Baku
From Reddit
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post6633361
Population
Gedrosia 19.57 Pct
Siberian 1.04 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 8.56 Pct
North_European 8.94 Pct
South_Asian 2.15 Pct
East_African 0.37 Pct
Southwest_Asian 11.97 Pct
East_Asian 1.74 Pct
Caucasus 45.49 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.17 Pct
Distance to: Marat
3.35944936 Turk_East
6.06420646 Azerbaijani_Turkey
6.23458900 Zaza
6.42362047 Armenian_East
7.42275555 Azerbaijani_Iran
7.60576097 Talysh_Azerbaijan
7.64078530 Azerbaijani
7.99863113 Kurd_Kurmanji
8.34749064 Uzbekistan_Jews
8.42666007 Turk_Central_East
8.45033727 Turk_Ahiska
8.53152390 Turk_Southeast
9.55290008 Armenian_West
9.57028213 Turkmen_Iraq
10.04030876 Kurd_Sorani
10.28127424 Kurds
10.37060750 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
11.05947105 Turk_South
11.08988729 Turk_East_Black_Sea
11.56808541 Kurd
Target: Marat
Distance: 1.9434% / 1.94340133 | ADC: 0.5x
77.0 Turk_East
15.2 Talysh_Azerbaijan
3.2 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
3.2 Kumyks
1.4 Turk_Ahiska
Target: Marat
Distance: 1.4424% / 1.44240687 | ADC: 0.25x
61.4 Turk_East
10.8 Talysh_Azerbaijan
7.8 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
7.6 Turk_Ahiska
7.4 Uzbekistan_Jews
4.6 Kumyks
0.4 Pulliyar
Yes I guess so too but more like Turkish-Armenian in general:
Target: Turk_East
Distance: 0.6888% / 0.68883568 | ADC: 0.25x
60.8 Armenian_East
17.0 Turk_Anatolia
15.6 Azerbaijani_Turkey
5.2 Circassian
1.4 Turk_Ahiska
With Azerbaijani_Turkey removed:
Target: Turk_East
Distance: 0.6864% / 0.68639574 | ADC: 0.25x
62.6 Armenian_East
21.2 Turk_Anatolia
8.4 Azerbaijani_Iran
6.0 Circassian
1.8 Turk_Ahiska
Iranian result, probably some kind of Iranian Turk, or mixed, probably from Khorasan:
Gedrosian: 25.98
Siberian: 1.83
Northwest_African: 0.00
Southeast_Asian: 0.72
Atlantic_Med: 4.82
North_European: 10.94
South_Asian 5.53
East_African 0.86
Southwest_Asian: 10.13
East_Asian: 4.46
Caucasian: 34.69
SSA: 0.00
Distance to: Iran124
3.96373561 Iran_Khorasan
6.32079109 Iran_Central_East
7.35233296 Iranian_Fars
8.39004768 Azerbaijani_Iran
8.72684364 Azerbaijani
9.28886968 Turkmens
9.46893869 Iranian
9.55609753 Talysh_Azerbaijan
9.83601545 Turkmen_Iran
9.92742666 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
9.95720342 Kurd_Kurmanji
10.09144192 Azerbaijani_Turkey
10.14142988 Iran_Mazandaran
10.15090144 Kurd_Sorani
10.60220732 Iranians
10.61955272 Lur_Iran
10.79040314 Kurd
11.25496779 Zaza
11.71971416 Turkmen_Iraq
11.89583120 Kurds
11.97723257 Turk_Southeast
13.93602167 Turk_South
14.77221717 Turk_Central_East
14.84378995 Parsi_India
15.23550459 Turk_Anatolia
Target: Iran124
Distance: 1.2932% / 1.29320040 | ADC: 0.25x
60.4 Iran_Khorasan
24.6 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
11.0 Iranian_Fars
2.6 Kurds
0.8 Japanese
0.4 Saudis
0.2 Iran_Mazandaran
That's normal hence Turks are mixed Oghuz + Anatolian(even sometimes Iranic) and have different degrees of Mongoloid(East Eurasian) admixture.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gecko
Also if you have sufficient money, then I advice you to take a DNA test. You & your family may have Iranic ancestry along with Oghuz + Anatolian.
May Central Anatolian Turks have more Anatolian ancestry than we thought. Yes, those places are first Türkmen settlings. But interestingly, the most Oghuz-admixed places are Aegean, Mediterranean & southern Marmara regions.
Results from my father's village:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_European 26.85
2 Caucasus 25.4
3 Atlantic_Med 18.43
4 Gedrosia 8.87
5 Southwest_Asian 8.41
6 Siberian 5.92
7 East_Asian 3.06
8 Northwest_African 1.72
9 South_Asian 1.31
10 Southeast_Asian 0.01
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 24.82
2 North_European 22.7
3 Atlantic_Med 21.58
4 Southwest_Asian 10.43
5 Gedrosia 8.45
6 Siberian 3.76
7 East_Asian 3.68
8 South_Asian 2.36
9 Northwest_African 2.12
10 Sub_Saharan 0.1
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 26.47
2 North_European 22.23
3 Atlantic_Med 20.59
4 Gedrosia 9.55
5 Southwest_Asian 8.88
6 Siberian 6.27
7 East_Asian 2.64
8 South_Asian 2.31
9 Northwest_African 0.63
10 East_African 0.41
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 26.49
2 North_European 24.3
3 Atlantic_Med 15.73
4 Gedrosia 9.4
5 Siberian 8.11
6 Southwest_Asian 7.16
7 East_Asian 6.47
8 South_Asian 1.37
9 Northwest_African 0.49
10 East_African 0.48
First one is I.
Second one is my 1st cousin,
Third one is my 4th cousin,
Fourth one is my 3rd cousin.
I didn't know the last two were my relatives before the DNA test. They are just my friends actually.
Sizin köyde Türkistan etkisi Yunanistanin baska taraflarinda gördügüm sonuctan daha fazla.
Another Turk result from Komotini/Kastanies
https://i.ibb.co/YffvwXb/80578364-12...56678144-n.jpg
Your ancestors definitely came unmixed to balkan, maybe one of the first rebellious turkmens. I read here once whetzer your have oghuz or tatar(kiptchak) influence. I don’t eliminate the probability of tatar influence but i think you have mostly oghuz. Let dont forget that tatars where also influenced by oghuzes. You have in proportional to eastasian that ammount of gedrosia and south asian admixture which could indicate central asian(turkmenistan uzbekistan) heritage.
Yes i will take a test, but i think not this year, i save money for an other thing. And i am just an univesity student, so i am not rich. The case is its generally believed that after mongol invasion mostly nomads flew to coastal refions of turkey abd because of that central anatolia is less turkic. I think thats the same as some say western turkey is just turkified greek people. I believe we mixed but i think that happened at the beginning of our arrival in anatolia. My maternal grandma can trace back her abd the roots of the father of my mum at least 200 years back. My paternal grandpa can trace back our roots more than 300 years. The village of my maternal grandma exists since 16th history, the maternal gandpas village where then known as „kışlak”. They are members if famous turkmen tribe. Of my paterbal side my father said my grandma is descendt of poor turcoman nomads, my grandpa tell full if pride the story of his ancestors, the same tribe like my maternal side, some historians say about paternal villages they also afshar influenced. If my relatives tell that all you would believe, if i would do nobody would believe. Me and my little sister are definitely atypical for central anatolians.
Most "Eastern Turks" are literally like Kurds with some Central Asian. Or to be more precise they look straight up like Azeris genetically. Some of them appear to be Armenian mixed though. Despite how close Armenians, Azeris and Kurds are. There seems to be one significant difference in the real Armenian DNA. Armenians tend to have a stronger Levant and Central-West Anatolian signature. While the main difference between Azeris and Kurds seems to be stronger lvls of East Eurasian admixture in the former, if you ignore the slight differences in CHG lvls due to regional differences.
Disagree.
Can't you see the average you just quoted? Eastern Turks are not close to Kurds. Azerbaijanis are close to Kurds yes. However Azerbaijanis are not close to Armenians while Eastern Turks are.
A Turkish+Kurdish mix will be close to Azerbaijanis yes. A Turkish+Armenian mix will be close to Eastern Turks.
Kurds with a bit of Central Asian and Anatolian are more like Zaza/Alevi Kurds.
Is Demhat close to Eastern Turkey? :)
Let's repost him here
Reiner Arier :DCode:Gedrosia 26.34 Pct
Siberian 0.58 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.67 Pct
Atlantic_Med 8.66 Pct
North_European 6.11 Pct
South_Asian 1.57 Pct
East_African 0.39 Pct
Southwest_Asian 14.47 Pct
East_Asian 0.09 Pct
Caucasus 40.86 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.26 Pct
Distance to: Demhat
3.22420533 Zaza
3.24319287 Kurd_Kurmanji
3.45887265 Kurds
4.07845559 Kurd
4.35341245 Talysh_Azerbaijan
4.53287988 Kurd_Sorani
4.63850191 Lur_Iran
5.17511353 Iranian
5.69068537 Turkmen_Iraq
6.79525570 Azerbaijani_Iran
7.60524819 Iranians
8.29860229 Azerbaijani
8.42081944 Azerbaijani_Turkey
8.50242318 Iranian_Fars
8.84035067 Uzbekistan_Jews
9.88672848 Iran_Mazandaran
10.29994660 Turk_Southeast
10.35815138 Turk_East
11.27882973 Iran_Central_East
11.44012675 Armenian_East
Target: Demhat
Distance: 1.7262% / 1.72624659 | ADC: 1x
49.4 Kurd_Kurmanji
44.6 Kurds
6.0 Zaza
Target: Demhat
Distance: 1.5507% / 1.55074968 | ADC: 0.5x
49.4 Kurds
45.6 Kurd_Kurmanji
3.2 Zaza
1.2 Lur_Iran
0.4 Sardinian
0.2 Turkmen_Iraq
Target: Demhat
Distance: 0.7699% / 0.76994795 | ADC: 0.25x
61.4 Kurds
11.2 Zaza
8.4 Kurd_Sorani
7.4 Lur_Iran
5.2 Kurd_Kurmanji
4.2 Turkmen_Iraq
2.2 Sardinian
@Demhat some Turkey Kurds
Distance to:Kurd_Centrl
4.23681484Kurd_Kurmanji
4.24915286Kurd_Sorani
5.05139585Azerbaijani_Iran
5.36660973Iranian_Fars
5.83876699Turkmen_Iraq
5.99432231Talysh_Azerbaijan
6.14568141Zaza
6.18007282Azerbaijani
6.25554154Lur_Iran
6.67526029Kurd
6.88339306Iranian
7.56585091Azerbaijani_Turkey
7.66127274Kurds
7.72560030Iran_Central_East
7.74203462Iranians
8.75595797Turk_Southeast
9.15795283Iran_Khorasan
9.99188170Iran_Mazandaran
11.69104358Azerbaijani_Dagestan
12.06561644Uzbekistan_Jews
12.22644266Turk_Central_East
12.35071658Turk_East
12.53693743Turk_South
13.75269792Turk_Anatolia
13.76396019Turk_Central_West
Distance to:Kurd_Cental_West
3.14617228Kurd_Kurmanji
3.70067561Zaza
5.00105989Azerbaijani_Iran
5.19160861Turkmen_Iraq
5.61190698Kurd_Sorani
5.80998279Azerbaijani
5.85316154Azerbaijani_Turkey
6.10341708Talysh_Azerbaijan
7.08112985Turk_Southeast
7.42699132Lur_Iran
7.52477907Kurds
7.69391318Kurd
8.05396176Iranian
8.42506973Turk_East
9.55313038Uzbekistan_Jews
9.59179337Turk_Central_East
9.62562725Iranian_Fars
10.22957966Iranians
10.75174404Armenian_East
11.25085775Turk_South
11.77825114Turk_Central_West
11.84991561Iran_Central_East
11.88114473Turk_Central_Black_Sea
11.96754361Turk_Anatolia
12.67999211Armenian_West
Distance to:Kurd_Ankara
3.19202130Talysh_Azerbaijan
3.84533484Iranian
4.08300135Kurd_Kurmanji
4.54478822Lur_Iran
4.77168733Kurd_Sorani
5.01703099Kurd
5.06794830Zaza
5.71957166Azerbaijani_Iran
5.76164907Kurds
6.15306428Iranian_Fars
7.04049714Iranians
7.35639178Turkmen_Iraq
7.53717454Iran_Mazandaran
7.56621438Azerbaijani
7.86248052Azerbaijani_Turkey
7.94869801Iran_Central_East
10.25012195Iran_Khorasan
10.38908562Turk_Southeast
11.05615666Uzbekistan_Jews
11.11600648Azerbaijani_Dagestan
11.57471814Turk_East
13.23249032Turk_Central_East
13.71268391Armenian_East
13.94832965Turk_South
14.79337352Turk_Central_Black_Sea
As You see Kurds closer to Iranians than to Armenians or To East Turks generally
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For comparison:
Distance to: Turk_East
4.88200778 Armenian_East
6.85192674 Azerbaijani_Turkey
7.32456825 Turk_Central_East
7.47177355 Armenian_West
7.53021912 Zaza
8.18080069 Uzbekistan_Jews
8.33249062 Turk_Southeast
8.56315362 Azerbaijani_Iran
8.62619847 Azerbaijani
8.70685362 Turk_Ahiska
9.11710480 Kurd_Kurmanji
9.44748644 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
9.57523368 Turk_East_Black_Sea
9.63026999 Talysh_Azerbaijan
10.02363208 Turkmen_Iraq
10.51016651 Turk_South
10.57407206 Assyrian
Distance to: Turk_Southeast
3.78707011 Azerbaijani
4.29018648 Turk_Central_East
4.37587705 Azerbaijani_Turkey
4.94072869 Turk_South
5.21708731 Azerbaijani_Iran
5.81908928 Turk_Central_West
5.96440274 Turk_Anatolia
6.32729010 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
7.00586897 Turkmen_Iraq
7.68417855 Kurd_Kurmanji
8.29432336 Zaza
8.33249062 Turk_East
8.51700065 Turk_West_BlackSea
8.77450283 Turk_Southwest
8.97361131 Kurd_Sorani
10.22737014 Talysh_Azerbaijan
10.97013674 Yoruk
A banned user, I believe he was half Alevi Kurdish half Turkish
I'm trying to find Hadouken's results.Code:Gedrosia 23.66
Siberian 2.90
Northwest_African 0.95
Southeast_Asian 1.27
Atlantic_Med 8.99
North_European 8.16
South_Asian 1.72
East_African 0.37
Southwest_Asian 11.02
East_Asian 1.31
Caucasus 39.63
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: G
3.00594411 Azerbaijani_Iran
3.87898183 Kurd_Kurmanji
4.16773320 Azerbaijani_Turkey
4.36284311 Azerbaijani
4.38872419 Zaza
4.92688543 Talysh_Azerbaijan
6.69891036 Kurd_Sorani
6.91353021 Turkmen_Iraq
7.09224224 Turk_Southeast
7.15439725 Iranian
7.32634971 Kurd
7.49235610 Kurds
7.93704605 Lur_Iran
8.67626072 Turk_East
9.19099559 Turk_Central_East
9.33495581 Iranian_Fars
9.90138374 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
10.14607806 Turk_South
10.42110359 Iranians
10.72409903 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
Target: G
Distance: 2.7741% / 2.77411841 | ADC: 1x
83.8 Azerbaijani_Iran
16.2 Kurd_Kurmanji
Target: G
Distance: 2.2851% / 2.28506844 | ADC: 0.5x
62.4 Azerbaijani_Iran
29.4 Kurd_Kurmanji
5.4 Ingush
2.8 Iranian
Target: G
Distance: 1.3581% / 1.35808318 | ADC: 0.25x
45.2 Azerbaijani_Iran
13.4 Zaza
11.8 Iranian
11.6 Kurd_Kurmanji
9.8 Ingush
6.0 Kurd
1.0 Sardinian
0.6 French_Basque
0.4 Nganassan
0.2 Dai
Hadouken
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 39.46
2 Gedrosia 23.29
3 Southwest_Asian 14.58
4 Atlantic_Med 9.95
5 North_European 6.12
6 South_Asian 2.13
7 East_Asian 1.28
8 Siberian 0.97
9 Northwest_African 0.91
10 Sub_Saharan 0.7
11 Southeast_Asian 0.6
Distance to: Hadouken
2.33383804 Kurd_Kurmanji
3.21860218 Turkmen_Iraq
3.38588246 Zaza
3.95710753 Kurd_Sorani
4.56826006 Azerbaijani_Iran
5.63291221 Azerbaijani
5.75663964 Talysh_Azerbaijan
6.00725395 Azerbaijani_Turkey
6.48448919 Lur_Iran
6.84510044 Turk_Southeast
7.01265285 Kurd
7.05360192 Kurds
7.75430848 Iranian
8.40567070 Uzbekistan_Jews
8.73024055 Iranian_Fars
8.77577347 Turk_East
9.58901976 Iranians
9.91264344 Turk_Central_East
10.87177998 Armenian_East
11.34387059 Turk_South
Target: Hadouken
Distance: 1.7835% / 1.78346445 | ADC: 1x
75.2 Kurd_Kurmanji
24.8 Turkmen_Iraq
Target: Hadouken
Distance: 1.3482% / 1.34820107 | ADC: 0.5x
68.8 Kurd_Kurmanji
30.4 Turkmen_Iraq
0.8 Sardinian
Target: Hadouken
Distance: 0.9367% / 0.93667017 | ADC: 0.25x
49.2 Kurd_Kurmanji
31.6 Turkmen_Iraq
17.4 Zaza
1.6 Sardinian
0.2 YRI30
Western Thrace, especially Komotini, is different from the rest of Greece. The reason for this is that there are not only the locals but also the Turks who came later, lives in the region. Also, the mixture we call native is in some cases is Bulgarian, not Greek. The reason for this can be explained by the dense Pomak and Christian Bulgarian population in the region. Turks as a mass usually prefered to mix with Bulgarians rather than Greeks for some reason. But still, the ones who are centre of the towns(Komotini, Xanthi) usually carry Greek-Vlach like admixture. Even some have Jewish. So it is possible to see both Greek and Bulgarian admixture among the Turks of the region, but I would say Bulgarian is somewhat(~70%) dominant. The recent Turkification of Pomaks is also boosting it.
These are the migrations to Western Thrace:
Spoiler!
With my current sample size, Xanthi has its own cluster between Komotini and Drama. This should point out that native Turks of Xanthi are still dominant. South part of Komotini(Ovalılar) are the same as Xanthi, and Northern part of Komotini(Dağlılar-Yakalılar) similar to Kardzhali. South part of Evros, Alexandroupoli is in the same cluster as Drama. North part of Evros, Sofulu, similar to Edirne and Ivaylovgrad. Yet this result from Kestanlik is in the Alexandroupoli range.
Our village was in the Yakalılar group, and it was not present in 1530. There are some people who aware of their migration to Western Thrace, but some claim to be native of Western Thrace. I believe there are mainly Turks who came from Bulgaria, but there should be some natives too.
For the source of Turkic admixture, I can say that the recent migration of Crimean Tatars has no great influence on the region. But the former migrations of Tatars(Erken göçte Oğuzlar ile birlikte gelenler, Aktav vs.) may have a great influence here. Because the location they settled is now empty, and the most reasonable explanation of their disappearing may be building the Kardzhali.(Kırcaali 1800'lerden önce yoktu) A migration route to the East, of course, will target Komotini as well. I don't know if you see my thread "Early Turkic forms of Turkey Turks", there my sample was getting some additional Siberian/Ugric like ancestry, and modeling like 60-70% Oghuz if I recall correctly. But I'm an outlier in this sense because half of my Turkic admixture comes from Provadia.
I'm also posting these three to compare. They should be descendants of the Turks who settled region between 1360-1530.
Xanthi + South Komotini
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 31.01
2 North_European 26.74
3 Atlantic_Med 19.79
4 Southwest_Asian 8.48
5 Gedrosia 4.99
6 Siberian 3.77
7 Northwest_African 2.55
8 East_Asian 1.82
9 East_African 0.35
10 Sub_Saharan 0.34
11 Southeast_Asian 0.17
Drama + Northern Kavala
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_European 27.82
2 Caucasus 27.69
3 Atlantic_Med 25.93
4 Southwest_Asian 10.32
5 Gedrosia 4.41
6 Siberian 3.19
7 Southeast_Asian 0.64
Alexandroupoli
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_European 30.43
2 Atlantic_Med 26.03
3 Caucasus 24.68
4 Gedrosia 6.78
5 Southwest_Asian 5.96
6 Siberian 4.43
7 South_Asian 1.17
8 Southeast_Asian 0.27
9 East_Asian 0.25
I personally think that my Turkic ancestry is a mix of the early Yörüks, the ones who came with Celali Rebellions and also Tatars. But I agree that it is more than half of Oghuz.
We have been investigating with @Thracian to see if Balkan Turks have Anatolian admixture or not for almost two years. We were able to detect a negligible amount(1-2%) of Anatolian in some, but most scored none. On the other hand, Balkan Turks have a great amount of Iranic-like input comparing to Anatolian Turks. Migration of non-Turk Iranic speaker Alevis following the Celali Rebellion can be an explanation for it. The second option is the migration of Turkic tribes who settled in Iran before entering Anatolia. Whatever it is, all of these admixtures(Early, Late-Celali, Tatar) melted in the same pot.