I don't think he has light hair, it looks dark to me. But he gives an overall light impression because his phenotype is more northern.Quote:
Originally Posted by Est.1992
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I don't think he has light hair, it looks dark to me. But he gives an overall light impression because his phenotype is more northern.Quote:
Originally Posted by Est.1992
So if you have that wealth of data, then why are you guys not combining it?Quote:
Originally Posted by vbnetkhio
Serbs from Croatia (Krajina) calculated by Dušan, 28 samples.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
Sorted
1 Baltic 31.76
2 North_Atlantic 24.71
3 West_Med 16.79
4 East_Med 14.62
5 West_Asian 8.22
6 Red_Sea 1.55
7 Siberian 0.81
8 Amerindian 0.56
9 Oceanian 0.38
10 South_Asian 0.43
11 East_Asian 0.22
12 Northeast_African 0.03
13 Sub-Saharan 0.03
https://i.imgur.com/5shGoQ4.jpg
Original post https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post6615209
Eurogenes K15 map of people from RM, unmixed.
https://sun9-10.userapi.com/c205620/...MV57CKfjds.jpg
Euregenes K15 map of academic samples from Caplani.
https://sun9-40.userapi.com/c205620/...MHD7RgVBxA.jpg
we don't really have a wealth of data. on gedmatch there's a lot of diaspora Serbs who are a mix of at leats 2 very different regions. pure Serbs don't test much, the already know their ancestry.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
we could make some very wide regions for now.
here's a Serbia Serb average, since there are Serb_Croatia and Serb_Bosnia averages. compare those 3, you claimed Serbs from Bosnia and Croatia are ultra northern shifted.
https://i.imgur.com/snyWRLV.png
And do you guys pay as much attention to Southern or at least Central counties too?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pribislav
You left out the woman from Barajevo.Quote:
Originally Posted by vbnetkhio
I know a certain 'Aksa' was active on poreklo.rs. He is from southeastern Kosovo (Vitina area) and I know he did a Y-DNA test (besides contributing to poreklo in other ways). Does anyone know if he also did an autosomal and if he posted it somewhere on that forum?
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she's sumadija_72Quote:
Originally Posted by CommonSense
I know him. One of his matches is Rethel. I dont think he did autosmal. I havent talked to him in a long time thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by CommonSense
I also know Aksa, he is a legend.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dick
He is Serbian R1a supremacist, because his y dna is R1a-M458.
He see I2a-Din Serbs as "Celto-Vlachs" related with sheperd way of life for thousands of years. :lol:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Est.1992
Woah I’m Romanian
Target: Daos
Distance: 0.3572% / 0.35715152
19.4 Southwest_Russian
11.2 Lithuanian
10.8 Latvian
10.6 Ukrainian
8.6 Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-Central
8.2 Greek_Northern-Thrace
6.6 Estonian
6.6 Macedonian_Greece
6.0 Pomak_Xanthi
3.6 Bulgarian_Pleven
2.6 Erzya
2.0 Croatian_new
2.0 Kol
1.4 Karitiana
0.2 Chamar
0.2 Turk_East_Black_Sea
Target: Daos
Distance: 1.4602% / 1.46017508 | ADC: 0.25x
66.4 Moldova_Romanian/Moldovan+Ukrainian_Mixes
29.0 Southwest_Russian
2.8 Pomak_Xanthi
1.0 Chamar
0.8 Karitiana
Seems like those averages fucked up my distance. I still get Croatian as a close match. Guess I have to be Croatian now. What’s a good Croatian first name for me?
Distance to: Daos
4.06435727 Moldova_Romanian/Moldovan+Ukrainian_Mixes
6.13653811 Bosniak_Tuzla
6.26838097 Croatian
7.01910251 South_Croat_Slavic_Cluster
7.14816760 Ukrainian_Lviv
7.50729645 Moldavian
7.90348025 Ukrainian
7.96682496 Moldova_North
8.39100505 Slovak
8.46095148 Romanian_Botosani
8.49227296 Slovak_West
9.00782993 South_Polish
9.37146200 Croatian_new
9.50781327 Slovenian
9.62545216 Bosnian
9.69475019 Croat_Bosnia
9.88624297 Romanian_North_Moldova_Bukovina
9.90888490 South_Croat_average
9.96827969 Southwest_Russian
10.01715965 Serbian_Bosnia
10.53649847 Czech_Moravian
10.55143118 Croat_Split
10.56855241 Ukrainian_Belgorod
10.75544513 HungarianTA
10.77408001 Kaykavian
R1a supremacist Like Rethel. Blood's thicker than waterQuote:
Originally Posted by Pribislav
So, does anyone has actual conformation those Milkovićs are Serbs?
Because I don't see how can they be included without that, especially with such scores.
Were any Romanians here scoring any Roman or Latin markers? They seem to be close to Serbians on Ged
Borna.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daos777
Yea, Aksa is Serbian version of Rethel. Interesting thing is that he look like a Polak. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dick
As people can see, average Baltic of Serbs from Serbia is 30%.Quote:
Originally Posted by vbnetkhio
Thats what I am talking about. We Serbs as an ethnic group, are pretty homogeneous no matter from what part are coming.
And that homogeinity will increase since there is a large scale of intermarriage from different regions.
I was right, he did take an autosmal test:Quote:
Originally Posted by Pribislav
https://forum.poreklo.rs/index.php?t...59228#msg59228
https://forum.poreklo.rs/index.php?t...47213#msg47213
https://forum.poreklo.rs/index.php?t...46456#msg46456
All the screenshots he posted are now expired, but apparently he scored 68% Eastern Europe on FTDNA! I know that doesn't always translate well to gedmatch, but still he shouldn't plot close to Macedonians.
It would be cool if Dick, Dušan or you contacted him to share more info. I'm certain he would, he's one of the rare Kosovo Serbs interested in genealogy.
Yeah he looks like northern Slav.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pribislav
I agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by CommonSense
But I doubt he is active on Poreklo. He was in conflict with moderators (reason is his R1a supremacy), and he left forum if I'm not wrong.
Probably left. He was legend though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pribislav
His account doesn't seemed to be banned. I too thought he was inactive because I haven't seen him in any recent discussions I've read, but I was hoping some of you might have his email.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pribislav
Of course they are Serbs. Probably refugess (they live in diaspora). Reason for higher testing of western Serbs is because many of them live in diaspora.Quote:
Originally Posted by Est.1992
If I showed you results of Kordun Serb Ivančević you will fell from the chair. :)
Ivančevići from Kordun are tested via SDP and they are I2-PH908, they celebrate Miholjdan.
Another surname that is far more common among Croats.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pribislav
So, you don't have actual evidence those are Serbs. Thank you for letting me know, and go search for Serbs who cluster with Russians next, I am sure you will find them.
He is not banned, just no more coming on forum. He wanted to be banned, but moderators did not want to banned him.Quote:
Originally Posted by CommonSense
Aksa's ancestors are native Kosovo Serbs, originally from Šar mountain.
I wish we could know more about the Caplani samples.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aspirin
Perhaps, I should consider writing to the authors tomorrow.
Not Serbs? These are all surnames present in Banija, near Dvor. The Danish one is her husband's:Quote:
Originally Posted by Est.1992
https://i.ibb.co/TDGh1yM/Screenshot-...-Genealogy.png
I mean you could try asking the people themselves, that's what Mingle used to do - either people replied kindly or they didn't reply at all. I included the gedmatch kits in my original comment.
Serbs Ivančevići from Kordun carry "Bunjevac" clade of I2-PH908, about their genetic 24:51 - 25:40 https://youtu.be/MfEjxj6dY5w?t=1491Quote:
Originally Posted by Est.1992
^^
Some Krajina Serbs carry "Bunjevac" y dna, they originated from Western Herzegovina.
Čorić amd Vukelić are hard core Croatian surnames.Quote:
Originally Posted by CommonSense
I don't know for others, some sound Serb.
This person looks too be mixed. Čorići are 100% Croats, that I guarantee you. Vukelić are predominately Croats, I know several irl.
Brajenović is Serb surname for sure.
Rogulja and Jajić exist in both just like Milinković. I would say Jajić is more Serb, Rogulja more Croat sounding.
This family is almost certanly mix of Croats and Serbs.
I don't know for their identity though.
Serbs with surname Vukelić are from Lika, Kordun and Banija. They celebrate Đurđevdan, Stevanjdan and Nikoljdan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Est.1992
Have you ever heard for this silicone slut/witch? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vesna_Vukelić_Vendi
It's probably Ćorić, widely spread surname in Herzegovina :Quote:
Originally Posted by Est.1992
https://www.poreklo.rs/2012/03/18/po...ezimena-coric/
The most interesting results are these ones. Despite these people are from the same district, part of the same ethnicity, they look like persons of totally different ethnicities, the difference between wife and husband is enormous. This clearly is conected with presence of minorites of Balkan origin in that region. Their child who was tested with two different companies, have different results too.
https://sun9-17.userapi.com/c205620/...XlShY4WD9k.jpg
That tested Čorić is a Croat and he is close y-dna match of my father.Quote:
Originally Posted by CommonSense
I even posted his autosomal in south slavic thread.
Čorić is very common surname in Croatia, you have tennis player Borna Čorić or footballer Ante Čorić.
Quote:
Čorić families are almost entirely Croats and they are mostly from Herzegovina , barely Serbs, and Bosniaks (Bosanska Posavina). In the past century, relatively most of Croatian residents bearing this family name were born in Herzegovina (Mostar area) and in Herzegovina (Siroki Brijeg area). In Brda in Middle Bosnia every second inhabitant had the family name Ćorić.
He/she should marge his data from 2 companies, and will get much more precise results with higher SNP count.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aspirin
Hare we go again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Est.1992
I said already for Vukelići Serbs from where they are.
Banija Serb surnames site:
Look at ROGULJA among R and ĆORIĆ among Ć https://banija.rs/obicaji/16171-imen...ih-srba-3.html
There are two variants of that surname, ours is spelled with Ć, not Č and it's not found among any Croats in Krajina, only some other areas.Quote:
Originally Posted by Est.1992
Yes, and your branch of Ćorić was founded by Croat who seem to married some Serb.Quote:
Originally Posted by CommonSense
ĆORIĆI
(in Zabljak)
Jerko Coric came from Mostar in the 1930s to Zabljak, where he worked as a master craftsman
No Serb is called Jerko, LOL! Jerko is a hard core Croat Catholic name.
Vukelići in Rijeka are Croats from Velebit channel, of Bunjevac origin.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pribislav