Hey listen you fuckingQuote:
Originally Posted by Dynamo
ChootiA upgAndu who the fuck you think you are. White wannabe. I will come out of computer and beat you up with my shoes. Be in your limits when posting about my people don't make up lies and spread falsehood you wanna be whoever matter not to me but never ever talk shit about my people ever
The reason why dirt poor Afganis support terrorism is because they are religious fanatics not because they have a big heart. Sheikhs are superior in everyway to Afganis.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dynamo
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Originally Posted by jatt
Sheikhs? You fucking kidding me? Those bastards are spraying money on women jewellery like the way someone shits when they have diorreah. How is supporting Palestine supporting terrorism? How fucking dare you . Those fuckjnh Jews were killing innocent civilians yet Palestinians are terrorist? Fuck youQuote:
Originally Posted by crank
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Originally Posted by jatt
i have never encountered an afghan who wants to be white like many indians. Even the minority of afghans who look white and have light eyes/hair dont think they are the same like white people of the west unlike some indians who just because they have light brown skin think they are already europeans. Afghans are never south asians genetically and the west asian components are dominating but the ancestors of afghans (saka,kushan,bactrians,kamboja..) have mixed with south asians or south asian admixed people . But this happened mostly on the maternal side and indoeuropean and west asian y-dna haplogroups are very widespread among afghans and dominate themQuote:
Originally Posted by jatt
Our ancestors most likley went tk South Asia and settled there etc that's why northwest South Asians have west asian components. It also happened the other way round but much much less( hence why probably we show little South asian influence albeit present )Quote:
Originally Posted by Vir9
the old iranic and indo-aryan tribes orginated somewhere in the eurasian steppe and had high percentages of caucasian and northern european dna but they migrated and settled in central asia,south asia and also west asia. In central asia they encountered and conquered the BMAC civilization which was connected to other sedentary cultures in modern iran and had a high developed urban civilization.The iranic and indo-aryan tribes mixed with the population of the BMAC culture , which was west asian predominately , and their religions were also influenced by this.In afghanistan they encountered several different local cultures which were mostly also of west asian origin but influenced by people from the indus basin but even this pre-indoeuropean were mostly west asians.The ancestors of afghans subjugated this people and spread their genes and languages so that modern afghans speak indoeuropean languages and are predominately the descendants of this indoeuropean iranic tribesQuote:
Originally Posted by Dynamo
But later the indo-aryan tribes moved to india ( but some like pashai and kalash stayed in afghanistan/pakistan and preserved their original look) and mixed much with pre-indoeuropean south asians but iranic people like pashtuns mixed only rarely with south asians and lived for the most time in central asia and only recently they also populate south asia and took many indian women (raids). Pashtuns are still very close to pamiri people of tajikistan and of course also to tajiks of afghanistan.Pashtuns of modern pakistan have mostly so much south asian components because of recent admixture and pashtuns of afghanistan have low south asian components which are also very different from other south asian components in india
What in F's name are you talking about? I posted both data about Pakistani and Afghan Pashtuns both on page 1 and page 13. Are you blind or what? Page 13 shows a plot which shows both Pakistani and Afghan Pashtuns. Page one shows both quotes from the paper about Afghanistans ethnic groups, as well as plots/PCA's about Pakistani Pashtuns.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dynamo
The one from page 13 once again:
http://i62.tinypic.com/e0qqtx.png
Analysis from the paper the graph is from:
As we can see, in Dynamo's and Vir9's PAINS to disassociate the Pashtun ethnic group from the other (Northwestern) South Asians, such as the Punjabi Jatts, Kashmiris, Sindhi's, etc, user Dynamo has resorted to the usage of ad-hominem insults and trolling to virtually everyone here who dares speaking about the Pashtuns, disregarding obvious complete scientific papers and facts posted, while ''Vir9'' tries to fraud every plot/graph/paper posted, trying to present it as '''trolling'' and frauding results as shown on the graphs (such as saying about the graph above that the Pashtuns all fall in the Central Asian cluster). Dynamo also thinks that by posting individually grabbed results without any source given he can refute any of the complete sources/papers/PCA's and plots I have given.Quote:
(...) Pashtun are close to the Indo-Aryan cluster, and Hazara are, as expected, near to the Altaic cluster.
These two users of presumably Pashtun origin have OBVIOUS superiority feelings towards other geneticallly Northwestern South Asian peoples such as the Punjabi Jatts, Kashmiris, Sindhi's, Himachali's, etc. They hate the fact that Pashtuns cluster with these people and are in grief due to this. They don't agree with the hard scientific facts and papers that are posted because they would rather see themselves cluster firmly with Central Asians, West Asians, you name it, for whatever dumb reason. This is clearly seen by reading their comments.
Either post scientific papers if you think this is all not true. If you can't contribute anything remotely useful please keep out. And yes, that includes posting unsourced random results of persons while I have posted whole papers on both Afghan Pashtuns and Pakistani Pashtuns.
I never thought being South Asian geneticaly would be such an extreme insult towards some people.
User ''Dynamo'' once again showed how incredibly hard he finds it and how extremely butthurt he is by PM'ing me this comment:
Obvious inferiority complexion detected.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dynamo
Conclusion: The majority of Pashtuns live in Pakistan. 70% of the total Pashtun population. As shown in EVERY paper, graph, and PCA I posted the Pakistani Pashtuns CLEARLY cluster with other Northwestern South Asian and clear cut fall in the South Asian cluster. The Afghan Pashtuns, as seen in the graph above are on the edge of the South Asian/Central Asian cluster. They are extremely close to the South Asian cluster. Muuuuuch closer to the Middle East/Caucasus cluster as eveyone can see. The paper says as well itself in words that they are close to Indo-Aryan populations. It all makes sense considering the geography and history of the Pashtun people.
The plots, scientific papers, and graphs on the first page on this thread confirm this again as well, with the Pakistani Pashtuns first and foremost being closest to other Northwest South Asian populations, including the Sindhi's. Pashtuns are a South Asian population genetically, clustering closely with Punjabi Jatts, Kashmiris, Sindhi's, High Caste Himachali's, Baloch, etc. I showed it here with the results, papers, plots, and PCA's posted. No individual result, no trolling, no frauding can change this.
Deal with this fact Dynamo and Vir9. The Pashtuns are first and foremost Northwestern South Asian genetically as is shown in this thread. Otherwise, Pakistani Pashtuns are not Pashtuns, or otherwise the Kashmiris, Punjabi Jatts, Sindhi's, high caste Himachali's (aka the closest genetic brethren to the Pashtuns), etc are not actually South Asians ;) I know you can't refute this. Pashtuns are not remotely close to Middle Eastern/West Asian/Caucasus peoples. By far. Give up.
As if there's anything bad about clustering with other (Northwestern) South Asians as a population.
Afghan cricket team, mostly Pashtuns, few Tajiks/Hazaras
http://i59.tinypic.com/23kr802.jpg
Pakistani cricket team, mixed Pashtun/Punjabi/other Pakistani ethnic groups
http://i62.tinypic.com/2vm7jhd.jpg