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08-30-2020, 06:02 AM
Jana

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peterski

Based on what? They are 60% of the whole samples. Provence is near Italian border.

To me, some of the 12 Provence_North samples look more out of place, for example:

Distance to: Provence_North8
5.75518028 Swiss_German
6.65942940 Austria-Tyrol
6.69130032 Italy_Aostavalley
6.98003582 FRA_Alsace
7.36030570 FRA_Belgica

Distance to: Provence_North3
8.17110764 Swiss_German
8.22175164 German_Bavarian
8.22187327 FRA_Alsace
8.61930392 FRA_Central
8.74318020 South_Dutch

Distance to: Provence_North12
5.85830180 FRA_Belgica
6.60568694 FRA_Central
7.50445201 Belgium
7.58744357 South_Dutch
7.75107089 Swiss_German
7.78271803 Italy_Aostavalley
8.40116063 FRA_Alsace

You can make one average from all 30 if you want, or experiment how to group them.

They are not out of place, Petalpusher mother is Provencal and plots like that.

Only coast of Provence is north Italian like on average and there is lot of recent Italian ancestry too.

Bit deper inland things change a lot.
08-30-2020, 06:09 AM
Peterski

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stearsolina

They are not out of place

Provence_North12 could pass as a local in Calais.

That's the opposite end of France than Provence.
08-31-2020, 07:30 PM
Leto

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aren

I divided the Assyrian average. N=30+ for all three averages. Maybe remove the old one.

Spoiler!

Assyrian_North,1.47,1.33,11.83,32.9,39.46,8.42,3.4 7,0.22,0.16,0.14,0.31,0.21,0.07
Assyrian_West,2.19,0.82,12.21,32.35,39.76,8.61,2.9 2,0.22,0.12,0.16,0.29,0.18,0.16
Assyrian_South,1.57,1.07,11.78,32.43,39.52,8.73,3. 49,0.32,0.12,0.19,0.3,0.32,0.12

Iraqi Jewish(N=20) and Mandean(N=16).

Spoiler!

Iraqi_Jew,0.25,0.32,10.98,30.03,43.49,10.3,3.2,0.3 2,0.05,0.04,0.32,0.69,0
Mandean,1.8,0.35,9.34,31.52,39.83,10.23,5.62,0.02, 0.09,0.15,0.19,0.71,0.12

Azerbaijani Jewish

Code:

Azerbaijani_Jewish,2.94,1.40,11.63,32.90,37.45,7.81,3.97,0.06,0.31,0.62,0.13,0.20,0.58

@Lucas, add this too.
09-01-2020, 12:06 AM
Aren

Quote:

Originally Posted by Creoda

Whatever, they're obviously descendants of recent Italian immigration, you should at least combine them with the more French samples.

There’s absolutely no trusting in academic samples from France, that’s for sure.
09-01-2020, 12:18 AM
Peterski

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aren

There’s absolutely no trusting in academic samples from France, that’s for sure.

Well back in 2016/2017 I was telling here and on Anthrogenica that GEDmatch kits with GEDCOMs are superior to academic samples.

All the autists cried that I must use academic samples because they are unbiased. Now all the autists cry the opposite. Quite funny?
09-01-2020, 06:32 AM
Lucas

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leto

Azerbaijani Jewish

Code:

Azerbaijani_Jewish,2.94,1.40,11.63,32.90,37.45,7.81,3.97,0.06,0.31,0.62,0.13,0.20,0.58

@Lucas, add this too.

Added. Please everyone write also for which calc it is.
09-01-2020, 04:57 PM
vbnetkhio

Lucas, could you add all these to k13 ancient?

Code:

scy192_Moldova_Scythian.SG_1650_ybp,19.33,15.87,24.64,13.25,21.59,2.68,0.53,0,0.91,0.42,0.76,0,0.01 scy197_Moldova_Scythian.SG_1650_ybp,21.77,15.56,27.21,8.22,20.8,4.53,0,0,1.91,0,0,0,0 scy305_Moldova_Scythian.SG_2254_ybp,27.8,11.06,20.79,10.94,21.92,0,3.07,0,1.66,1.84,0.29,0.65,0 scy300_Moldova_Scythian.SG_2253_ybp,26.39,9.87,23.35,10.37,23.25,3.55,0,1.09,0,2.13,0,0,0 scy311_Moldova_Scythian.SG_2247_ybp,29.28,14.3,13.36,17.27,14.15,1.64,3.11,3.04,1.27,2.34,0.24,0,0 scy301_Moldova_Scythian.SG_2248_ybp,22.72,23.94,11.96,18.97,11.8,0,1.4,1.01,4.38,3.04,0,0,0.77 scy303_Moldova_Scythian_o2.SG_2242_ybp,45.53,29.8,10.39,4.74,4.1,0,3.03,0,0,1.01,1.31,0.09,0 ScythianMoldova_SCY311_Moldova_389-204_BC,38.58,18.93,18.02,11.92,11.13,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1.43 ScythianMoldova_SCY300_Moldova_397-209_BC,34.52,9.33,30.97,6.42,18.53,0.22,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 ScythianMoldova_SCY197_Moldova_288502632_BC,33.89,13.8,29,2.16,20.45,0.7,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 scy192_scythian_2863_2503bce_,28,13.64,31.82,6.93,19.38,0.22,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 scy301_scythian_Moldova_390_205bce_,34.99,26.02,14.27,15.53,8.64,0,0,0,0,0.55,0,0,0 scy303_scythian_Moldova_380_203bce_,55.23,31.22,11.90,1.65,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00

the SG version is very different from the normal one. i think people shuld be able to compare to both.
09-01-2020, 07:15 PM
Lucas

Quote:

Originally Posted by vbnetkhio

Lucas, could you add all these to k13 ancient?

Code:

scy192_Moldova_Scythian.SG_1650_ybp,19.33,15.87,24.64,13.25,21.59,2.68,0.53,0,0.91,0.42,0.76,0,0.01 scy197_Moldova_Scythian.SG_1650_ybp,21.77,15.56,27.21,8.22,20.8,4.53,0,0,1.91,0,0,0,0 scy305_Moldova_Scythian.SG_2254_ybp,27.8,11.06,20.79,10.94,21.92,0,3.07,0,1.66,1.84,0.29,0.65,0 scy300_Moldova_Scythian.SG_2253_ybp,26.39,9.87,23.35,10.37,23.25,3.55,0,1.09,0,2.13,0,0,0 scy311_Moldova_Scythian.SG_2247_ybp,29.28,14.3,13.36,17.27,14.15,1.64,3.11,3.04,1.27,2.34,0.24,0,0 scy301_Moldova_Scythian.SG_2248_ybp,22.72,23.94,11.96,18.97,11.8,0,1.4,1.01,4.38,3.04,0,0,0.77 scy303_Moldova_Scythian_o2.SG_2242_ybp,45.53,29.8,10.39,4.74,4.1,0,3.03,0,0,1.01,1.31,0.09,0 ScythianMoldova_SCY311_Moldova_389-204_BC,38.58,18.93,18.02,11.92,11.13,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1.43 ScythianMoldova_SCY300_Moldova_397-209_BC,34.52,9.33,30.97,6.42,18.53,0.22,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 ScythianMoldova_SCY197_Moldova_288502632_BC,33.89,13.8,29,2.16,20.45,0.7,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 scy192_scythian_2863_2503bce_,28,13.64,31.82,6.93,19.38,0.22,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 scy301_scythian_Moldova_390_205bce_,34.99,26.02,14.27,15.53,8.64,0,0,0,0,0.55,0,0,0 scy303_scythian_Moldova_380_203bce_,55.23,31.22,11.90,1.65,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00

the SG version is very different from the normal one. i think people shuld be able to compare to both.

Better?
09-01-2020, 07:18 PM
Jana

Hey, there are two average with same name (Croat). They are actually Croat and Croat-Croatia, but no idea which is which so could you replace them with these
(from Vbn, basically identical, just labeled properly)

Croat,28.40,33.22,14.89,7.81,11.70,1.47,0.53,0.28, 0.53,0.51,0.44,0.09,0.13
Croat_Croatia,28.75,33.31,14.82,7.80,11.35,1.45,0. 52,0.28,0.51,0.53,0.45,0.10,0.14
09-01-2020, 08:34 PM
Lucas

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stearsolina

Hey, there are two average with same name (Croat). They are actually Croat and Croat-Croatia, but no idea which is which so could you replace them with these
(from Vbn, basically identical, just labeled properly)

Croat,28.40,33.22,14.89,7.81,11.70,1.47,0.53,0.28, 0.53,0.51,0.44,0.09,0.13
Croat_Croatia,28.75,33.31,14.82,7.80,11.35,1.45,0. 52,0.28,0.51,0.53,0.45,0.10,0.14

Ukhm yes. Fixed.

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