Was Haplogroup R originally mongoloid?

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Originally Posted by Vlatko Vukovic

Just like Finnish?

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No, N was originally European. R was mongoloid.

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Originally Posted by Harkonnen

No, N was originally European. R was mongoloid.

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N was Mongoloid too.

The entire K2 and descendants haplogroups were all mongoloids (Chinese, Koreans, Malayan, Finns, Native Americans) and Negroids (the Papuans).

Deal with it.

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Originally Posted by Harkonnen

P is the ancestral form so it is more likely they looked originally more like negritos.

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There are Haplogroup P tribes in Siberia/Eastern Russia that are still mongoloids.

Not mongoloid but Indian-Pakistani

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Originally Posted by DarknessWin

Not mongoloid but Indian-Pakistani

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The Khoton Tribe in Central Asia is about 90% fatherline aryan with about 50% motherline white women. If it were a white people with 90% white men and 50% white women, the rest mongoloid, the people would look white. Since aryans are a mongoloid race, the tribe is 3/4 mongoloid and actually looks 3/4 mongoloid. The same is true of the Bashkirs, another aryan tribe. The stats are about the same with the Bashkirs aryans as with the Khoton aryans, resulting in about 3/4 mongoloid, looking mongoloid.

There are probably other aryan tribes that are and look mongoloid like these two aryan mongoloid tribes.

These percentages already take into account Mongolian ancestry from the Mongol Invasion and the stats come up aryans are mongoloids. aryans lost their native american like look their blood brothers haplogroup Q has from the aryans taking of white women generationally.

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Originally Posted by Messier 67

The Khoton Tribe in Central Asia is about 90% fatherline aryan with about 50% motherline white women. If it were a white people with 90% white men and 50% white women, the rest mongoloid, the people would look white. Since aryans are a mongoloid race, the tribe is 3/4 mongoloid and actually looks 3/4 mongoloid. The same is true of the Bashkirs, another aryan tribe. The stats are about the same with the Bashkirs aryans as with the Khoton aryans, resulting in about 3/4 mongoloid, looking mongoloid.

There are probably other aryan tribes that are and look mongoloid like these two aryan mongoloid tribes.

These percentages already take into account Mongolian ancestry from the Mongol Invasion and the stats come up aryans are mongoloids.

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Aryan tribes = indian tribes

Stop compare aryan to white skin, this is Hitler's bullshit

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Originally Posted by Messier 67

There are Haplogroup P tribes in Siberia/Eastern Russia that are still mongoloids.

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There is no P in Siberia. It is only found in South East Asia. If your info is based on some older studies, it is actually just some undefined Q.

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Originally Posted by Sundqvist

there is one y-dna brach - Q,P,R

R1 is real red-skinned Indians, unable to tan, who burn in sun

they conquered Eurasia, I mean R1 with Q support

look at great map source:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...28Y-DNA%29.PNG

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geneti...#Haplogroup_R1

so it was not Columbus who won, but "Koo-wi-s-gu-wi" (second name John .... Ross)


look at Amerindians top of head

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-m63r4XlOgo...+Wolf+Robe.jpg

now look for example how looks Arjen Roben

and compare with quite flat top of head of Sinoid rather than Mongoloid Xi from China

https://78.media.tumblr.com/8932a922...sxre9s_540.png

yeah, R1 are Amerindians

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Originally Posted by Harkonnen

P is the ancestral form so it is more likely they looked originally more like negritos.

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on EgyptSearch forum there was something that R1b V88 is the oldest of R1b and came from Africa indeed

http://i40.tinypic.com/14tu5xt.jpg

more here ---> http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ul...c;f=8;t=009271

and eventually:
http://egyptsearchreloaded.proboards...ion-theory-r1b

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Originally Posted by Harkonnen

There is no P in Siberia. It is only found in South East Asia. If your info is based on some older studies, it is actually just some undefined Q.

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No I was referencing wikipedia:

The highest percentages of P are found in Eastern Russia

35.4% among Tuvan males;
35% among Nivkh and;
28.3% among Altai-Kizhi.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplog...n_distribution

So you are saying wikipedia has older studies, not yet updated, and the likely place R and Q mutated from P was in Southeast Asia? Since P is only found in Southeast Asia.

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Originally Posted by Sundqvist

on EgyptSearch forum there was something that R1b V88 is the oldest of R1b and came from Africa indeed

http://i40.tinypic.com/14tu5xt.jpg

more here ---> http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ul...c;f=8;t=009271

and eventually:
http://egyptsearchreloaded.proboards...ion-theory-r1b

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lost R1b tribe in Great Zimbabwe? --> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Zimbabwe
the same architecture style like in medieval west europe

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...Zimbabwe-2.jpg