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That is just yout in-born slave-mentality speaking. For me, gods work for me, and if they fail me, I spit on their faces.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Rethel of Retheley
Anyway, Rethel, who failed those Slavic whores? I think they need new Masters as their men are absolute worthless scum.
You just made this up, however.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Rethel of Retheley
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Today.
But still higher IQ happened here, not anywhere elswhere...
In what way is China inferior to Poland? In what way are Jews inferior to Europeans, except numerically? You yourself believe we are destroying you and you outnumber us literally 100 to 1. You can't expound anti-Semitic theories like that and believe we're 'inferior.' You're inferior by definition.Quote:
Rather explain China's and jewish inferiority having higher IQ...
IQ it is not enaugh...
It's true :( I am ashamed.Quote:
Did you read too much this scandish freak? :laugh:
Green are IE as well as blue.
You have hazel - some greenish in it.
You are contaminated :p
True jewish eyes...
Chinese accomplishments dwarf European ones until about 1600. That's 5000 years of superiority, 400 year blip, and now back to China again.Quote:
Originally Posted by TEUTORIGOS
IQ measures what it measures, it's not a perfect measure of intelligence, just some intelligences (not, for example, emotional intelligence). The sources you provided in the other post seemed to be pop-sci clickbait articles though, that don't actually support your point in any direct manner.Quote:
Obviously, the culture is important too and Western culture is superior to Eastern culture that is perhaps an explanation. However, the scientist Michio Kaku in his book "The Future of the Mind" does a pretty good job of eviscerating the concept of IQ as a valid measure of intelligence. Just like genetics went through a Golden age in in the 90s, with the human genome project, neuroscience is now in a golden age with the BRAIN project etc... and in the future we are likely to have better measures of intelligence than the flawed concept of IQ.
I don't value IQ like you people do, certainly like you, personally, did. You were obsessed with it for many years. When I'm 40 and fucking hookers like you, we'll see what's going on.Quote:
You rest too much on your laurels based on your IQ score. Rest instead on real world accomplishments then I might start to listen to you. Your IQ score gives you no authority with me. It might with other fools, though.
But true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Longbowman
1. The difference in IQ which we know, is from now. In the past levels could be different.Quote:
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2. Only Jews from Poland have higher IQ, not these from Spain, North Africa or Iraq...
For example, during the worst communistic times in Poland,Quote:
In what way is China inferior to Poland?
China was 7 times poorer than Poland - having 30 times more
people, 30 times more territory, more resources and higher IQ...
What did jewish civilisation achieve? How many territory did you conquer?Quote:
In what way are Jews inferior to Europeans, except numerically?
How many cities built? How many inventions did you made during this 1800
years of existing? How many geographical discoveries did make the jewish
civilization? How did Jews enriched other cultures? How did they modernize
other continents? What they did build for other people? What improvment
jewish civilization brought to the world since 90AD?
Idk certainly, but some deeds of you, do witness that you are badly infuencing our world.Quote:
You yourself believe we are destroying you
Nevertheless, it is only feminish scheaming causing the destruction, like Balaam Beorsson
did to the Israelites - so what is an honour or achievment in this? What wonderfull makes
it for humanity? What is a greatness in demoralization, ungatefullness and destruction of
other people, especially those who hosted you for centuries? But this evil finally will get
you also... Even the Medinat has to be support by Europeans (in lagre sense) and by the
european inventions - otherwise would fall in one day.
This is also not on you benefit, becasue you cannot even keep your number growing.Quote:
and you outnumber us literally 100 to 1.
1000 BC Israelites (which you want to have for ancestors) made 15-25% of the world's
population... plus proselytes, slaves and settled foreigners. At the start judaists had some
4-8 mln people... 1 mln in Egypt which had then 8mln people, 1 mln in Syria which had
not much more native people, in Babylonia at some point lived 3 mln Jews in late antiquity,
and some million in Arabia... until XIIth century number of Jews dropped to only one million
in the whole world - at least thrice less than Israelites who got out from Egypt some 2.5
thoudands years earlier in the Bronze Age and eight time less than in the first century.
Now you are bearly 14 mln... It means, that smartness cannot provide even children.
And btw, thou art cutting thyself out from Aschkenazim, wanting to be a Sefardian, so
you are in the less inteligent group - even in less inteligent than average European.
Inferior in what?Quote:
You can't expound anti-Semitic theories like that and believe we're 'inferior.' You're inferior by definition.
Dont worry - if you finaly decide to be European, youQuote:
It's true :( I am ashamed.
can easier hide in the crowd before zelots get you first :)
No, it's pure fiction, and you're not even pretending you didn't make it up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Rethel of Retheley
Proximity to the Bielowiesza forest grants intellectual superiority, but not to gentile Poles, apparently.Quote:
1. The difference in IQ which we know, is from now. In the past levels could be different.
2. Only Jews from Poland have higher IQ, not these from Spain, North Africa or Iraq...
>ignores the even worse communist times in China happening at exactly the same timeQuote:
For example, during the worst communistic times in Poland,
China was 7 times poorer than Poland - having 30 times more
people, 30 times more territory, more resources and higher IQ...
only a gentile could be this ignorant. Either way China's rebound since then proves their superiority, coming back quickly from the worst of times.
asked the ChristianQuote:
What did jewish civilisation achieve?
Mongols confirmed for masterrace?Quote:
How many territory did you conquer?
we were building cities whilst you were fucking your horses, Pole.Quote:
How many cities built?
thousands, literally thousands.Quote:
How many inventions did you made during this 1800 years of existing?
Just Israel, just 50 years: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...nd_discoveries
less than 10, same as Europeans, because you 'discovered' countries that were already populated, for the most part. Only a few small islands were truly 'discovered' by you. Jewish explorers did exist, too, like Benjamin of Tudela, you just don't know about them, because you're an ignoramus.Quote:
How many geographical discoveries did make the jewish
civilization?
asked the ChristianQuote:
How did Jews enriched other cultures?
what we did was wipe them out, like in the Belgian Congo, Namibia, and the Aztec and Incan Empires. Oh wait that was you. Well at least you left those countries glorious and prosperous. Oh wait they're shitholes.
You know the 'culturally enriched' meme? That's an ironic one for WNs to wield. You leave one of two things in your wake:
1) destruction
2) a functioning white colony, with natives either marginalised, decimated, or pushed out
If you want to take responsibility for Africa, please, be my guest.Quote:
How did they modernize
other continents? What they did build for other people?
Countless thousands. For example we eradicated polio. Of course you could say 'but that's really our achievement because we destroyed your nation and you had to live amongst us until 1948' but that would be typical of your disingenuity.Quote:
What improvment
jewish civilization brought to the world since 90AD?
No race in the world will ever show 'gratitude' to Europeans, as Europeans do not deserve it. European inventions such as what? I'm genuinely curious.Quote:
Idk certainly, but some deeds of you, do witness that you are badly infuencing our world.
Nevertheless, it is only feminish scheaming causing the destruction, like Balaam Beorsson
did to the Israelites - so what is an honour or achievment in this? What wonderfull makes
it for humanity? What is a greatness in demoralization, ungatefullness and destruction of
other people, especially those who hosted you for centuries? But this evil finally will get
you also... Even the Medinat has to be support by Europeans (in lagre sense) and by the
european inventions - otherwise would fall in one day.
>believing biblical figuresQuote:
This is also not on you benefit, becasue you cannot even keep your number growing.
1000 BC Israelites (which you want to have for ancestors) made 15-25% of the world's
population... plus proselites, slaves and settled foreigners. At the start judaists had some
4-8 mln people... 1 mln in Egypt which had then 8mln people, 1 mln in Syria which had
not much more native people, in babylonia at some poit lived 3 mln Jews in late antiquity,
and some million in Arabia... until XII century number of Jews dropped to only one million
in the whole world - at least thrice less than Israelites who got out from Egypt some 2.5
thoudands years earlier in the Bronze Age and eight time less than in the first century.
Now you are bearly 14 mln... It means, that smartness cannot provide even children.
either way the current figures are: Jews growing quickly, Europeans falling quickly.
Sefardim are more intelligent than the average European, but this is immaterial to the point. You're thinking of Mizra7im.Quote:
And btw, you are cutting yourself out from Aschkenazim, wanting to be a Sefardian, so
you are in the less inteligent group - even in less inteligent than average European.
Every aspect except numbers. Name one and I'll explain how.Quote:
Inferior in what?
We both know that by 2050 Europeans will be practically extinct and looking like one might get me beaten up.Quote:
dont worry - if you finaly decide to be European, you can easier hide in the crowd :)
I do not think if it can be even compare.Quote:
Originally Posted by Longbowman
China did not have Muslim invasion through thousand year.
And the fact is, that "superior" china did not got to Europe,
but euroe got to China... and later patitionate her...
:picard2:Quote:
That's 5000 years of superiority,
History of china, as a civilisation started from the first Shi-Huangdi.
earlier it was just a small local kingdom, before 1600 - having a size
of small county, which the only achievemt of was, planting the rice.
There is no 5000 years,. It is a myth.
China is growing becasue of european inventions and investments.Quote:
400 year blip, and now back to China again.
There is nothing chinese in china now. All what they are able to do,
is coping from europeans. Even japanese hight-tech is made by the
similar way. China is going to decline, and sooner of later will emerged
the clash of civilisations, and knowing russian or american capibilities,
China will be wiped out from the face of the earth. And they are just
before demographic catastrophy which was created by their clever IQ. :picard2:
Just how fast somebody can use his brain.Quote:
IQ measures what it measures,
If someone is stupid, he will use his inteligence for stupidity, and make her bigger.
If someone is wise, he will use his inteligence for wisdom, and make it bigger (or not).
If someone is wicked, he will use his inteligence for greater wickendenss...
If someone is creative, he will use his inteligence for some inventions... (or not).
Even Einstin could be a very inteligent drunkard, if he would chose it.
So, IQ would give him nothing. Btw, his life was a total mess, and his
IQ gave him nothing (exept one or two theories which he predicted
correctly). And from inteligent point of niew, he couldn't make some
subjects in scholl, and he never learnd foreign language. Even english,
living in the US, btw for 20 years.
1) China was fighting Muslims since 700ADQuote:
Originally Posted by Sir Rethel of Retheley
2) China didn't invade Europe - but the Mongols did, so, are they the masterrace?
Grafting was invented in ancient China, for example, in addition to many other inventions. Again, your ignorance shows. Just because Europeans were too incompetent to develop agriculture doesn't mean it's not the most important development of all time - it is.Quote:
History of china, as a civilisation started from the first Shi-Huangdi.
earlier it was just a small local kingdom, before 1600 - having a size
of small county, which the only achievemt of was, planting the rice.
There is no 5000 years,. It is a myth.
A more comprehensive list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ese_inventions
What were Poles doing at the same time? nothing, of course.
No. Historically the passing of inventions has gone from east to west anyhow. It is only recently even a little has gone the other way. Investment? come on, they're not an Asian Tiger economy, you're talking out your arse.Quote:
China is growing becasue of european inventions and investments.
http://imgur.com/bAKTpu6Quote:
There is nothing chinese in china now. All what they are able to do,
is coping from europeans. Even japanese hight-tech is made by the
similar way. China is going to decline, and sooner of later will emerged
the clash of civilisations, and knowing russian or american capibilities,
China will be wiped out from the face of the earth. And they are just
before demographic catastrophy which was created by their clever IQ. :picard2:
I honestly believe Indo-Europeans are a race of cockroaches who are only good at destruction. Fact that some NW Europeans and South Europeans managed to create somewhat stable socities is more a exception to the rule than the norm, and has nothing to do with essence of Indo-Europeanity.Quote:
Originally Posted by Longbowman
Russia is the true soul of Indo-Europeans.
It seems he actually believes they're a race of altruists who go around raising savages to civilisation. And then in his next post he'll complain about how savage black/brown people are. They're totally irony impaired.Quote:
Originally Posted by Harkonnen
Yes, it's also odd to take credit for the achievements of the Latins and Britons. It's like me taking credit for the achievements of the Arabs or Assyrians, just all-round odd behaviour.
LOL, I've never heard anyone discuss or never learned anything about Poland in any of my world history classes when I was growing up. Nor did we learn much about Poland in college.Quote:
Originally Posted by Longbowman
Ancient India vs. Ancient Polish R1a Indo-Europeans? hmmm
He's the bastard himself since he actually believes a race of nomadic steppe invaders created the great civilizations of the past such as Vedic India. Then again he's a Pole so I'll let it slide.Quote:
Originally Posted by Harkonnen
Possibility.Quote:
Originally Posted by Longbowman
Present day Poles have quite average IQ: 98-102 - depending on reaserch.Quote:
Proximity to the Bielowiesza forest grants intellectual superiority, but not to gentile Poles, apparently.
In the past could have higher than average.
After 200-300 years of slaughtering the elites, average IQ could and probably did fall down.
Szlachta-folk did create a state, which was one of the richiest in Europe, and proportionaly
most powerfull. Just 500,000 (or less when we exclude some russkies) provide the power
which could hold 10-20 times more subjects, often rebelling, and at the same times make
succesfull wars with everyone around at the same time - including world superpower like
modern US, eastern giant which West has still problem with, northern arising local Empire,
plus some smaller entities inveding the land. At the same time providing great prosperity
for all inhabitants, on which Jews gain the most btw.
China was on her own, we were occupyed by Sovites.Quote:
>ignores the even worse communist times in China happening at exactly the same time
only a gentile could be this ignorant. Either way China's rebound since then proves their superiority, coming back quickly from the worst of times.
We didn;t want this system - they made it themselves.
And they supposedly are more inteligent than we.
It makes a big difference.
These zionistic apostates? :picard2:Quote:
asked the Christian
Interesingly, that, during colonial period they prospered batter, and when they get the power on their won, they failed.Quote:
what we did was wipe them out, like in the Belgian Congo, Namibia, and the Aztec and Incan Empires. Oh wait that was you. Well at least you left those countries glorious and prosperous. Oh wait they're shitholes.
You know the 'culturally enriched' meme? That's an ironic one for WNs to wield.
And btw, Africa was in stone age. Muslism did rape her as far as they could go (not too far... maybe had to low IQ for it?).
Europeans brought technology, roads, trains, medicines, literacy, cars, truest possible faith aso aso... everything what was
done and is, in Asia, America, Ociania, and Africa is done becasue European civilisation brought it there. What did Jews?
At the time, partially yes, but wah they created?Quote:
Mongols confirmed for masterrace
Nothing. They came out from shithole, and still remain there.
No civilisation, no any remains. They drowed in European and
China civilisations and were wiped out from the political map.
40 years of genocidal "glory", 4000 years of living in yurta.
Yea, sure... I see, your inteligence is making you crazy again...Quote:
we were building cities whilst you were fucking your horses, Pole.
When Jews did build a urban civilisation? When? Do you think
that gettho's network can be compare to all european cities
around the world? And btw, even Israelites (whom you have
probably in mind saying we) only occupied cities which they
were given by the God. But israelites did not live in jewish
civilisation, neither were jews.
1. I was talking about jewish civilisation. Give me something what was product of her from 500AD, 1000AD, 1700AD???Quote:
thousands, literally thousands.
Just Israel, just 50 years: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...nd_discoveries
2. Israel is quite europeanized, and all what they do is developing products of european civilisation.
One guy, from european country, who were just traveler of antient known world... :picard:Quote:
less than 10, same as Europeans, because you 'discovered' countries that were already populated, for the most part. Only a few small islands were truly 'discovered' by you. Jewish explorers did exist, too, like Benjamin of Tudela, you just don't know about them, because you're an ignoramus.
[quote]asked the Christian
what we did was wipe them out, like in the Belgian Congo, Namibia, and the Aztec and Incan Empires. Oh wait that was you. Well at least you left those countries glorious and prosperous. Oh wait they're shitholes.
You know the 'culturally enriched' meme? That's an ironic one for WNs to wield. You leave one of two things in your wake:/quote]
Why are you repeating yourself in one post?
:picard1:Quote:
1) destruction
2) a functioning white colony, with natives either marginalised, decimated, or pushed out
So high IQ, but you cannot understand the term "civilisational achievments"?Quote:
ountless thousands. For example we eradicated polio. Of course you could say 'but that's really our achievement because we destroyed your nation and you had to live amongst us until 1948' but that would be typical of your disingenuity.
Guy was out of your civilisation, learn, work and live in our civilisation.
This is why he made it. Being a Jew doesn't equal with being the jewish civilisation.
And it is saying a guy with IQ 140... :picard2:Quote:
No race in the world will ever show 'gratitude' to Europeans, as Europeans do not deserve it. European inventions such as what? I'm genuinely curious.
About gratitude, it is known, that Jews are usually not.
Whatever you say, figures about judaists are not biblical.Quote:
>believing biblical figures
Since I century you have great decline and in 12th century
you were 4-8 times less than at the beginning in I century.
during 1800 years you couldn;t use your IQ for reproduction.
Only becasue of those, which are beliving in this, what you just laughed a sentence earlier... :picard2:Quote:
either way the current figures are: Jews growing quickly, Europeans falling quickly.
Yea, sure... european average is 100-101.Quote:
Sefardim are more intelligent than the average European, but this is immaterial to the point.
Sepharid - 95-98.
These are on the arabic level. Less than 90?Quote:
You're thinking of Mizra7im.
Yea, sure... especially in godliness....Quote:
Every aspect except numbers. Name one and I'll explain how.
So, you are on the side of the enemy, like the general jewery from the paralel thread??Quote:
We both know that by 2050 Europeans will be practically extinct and looking like one might get me beaten up.
There were bad things, there were good things.Quote:
Originally Posted by Longbowman
Generaly there is more benefits.
But you do not make one and the same civilisation with them. I canQuote:
Yes, it's also odd to take credit for the achievements of the Latins and Britons. It's like me taking credit for the achievements of the Arabs or Assyrians, just all-round odd behaviour.
understand, that our muslim low IQ members cannot understand this,
but you are lauding you 140, so you should be able to understand this
(as well as many other things). Unfortunatly, sometimes, low IQed
muslims can understand things which you can't, becasue they simply
repeat what they were taught.
It's complete nonsense of course. Indian civilization is a direct descendent of BMAC, Harappa and Mohenjo-daro which themselves are linked to the greater belt of Middle-Eastern and South Asian cilizations.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fractal
Since 700 until 800 on the far outskirts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Longbowman
As was said above.Quote:
2) China didn't invade Europe - but the Mongols did, so, are they the masterrace?
did I negate chinese inventions? No.Quote:
Grafting was invented in ancient China, for example, in addition to many other inventions. Again, your ignorance shows. Just because Europeans were too incompetent to develop agriculture doesn't mean it's not the most important development of all time - it is.
But what they did with these inventions?
It brought them nothing - but we could use
made by us inventions for our benefit, and
for the benefit of others. And our inventions
are far greater, than chinese.
Chinese, when they discovered something,
they did lock it and kept it for themselves.
Neither they benefited from it, neither others.
And btw, invention or conquest per se means nothing. We are talking
here about civilisations, as a whole bunch of different things, and final
result of it. Why IQ 140 cannot undersdtand it, but is taking small things,
elements of greater picture trying to proof, that whole is better becasue
of this one ancient piece of puzzle? :picard2:
At least you will learn, how to use Internet, when your argumentation is out. :)Quote:
Try to make better use of the internet in this matter.Quote:
What were Poles doing at the same time? nothing, of course.
Btw, Poles ARE NOT A CIVILISATION.
But:
Jews 1000 years ago - 1 mln.
Poles 1000 years ago - 1 mln.
Today - Jews 14 mln, Poles 40 in the country, 60 with those around the world.
Jews lived in getthos during this whole time.
Poles made a local Empire, an the biggest country in Europe (exept Russia),
holding 10-14 times more subjects, and winning wars with everyone around
including other powers and one World Power being 500,000 head-folk.
Also in the meantime, became one of the richest if not the richest state in Europe,
the refuge for Jews (once lived here 90% of you) and other peoples and faiths from
Europe like Scots, English, Germans, Swedes, Hungarians, Russians, Armenians, Karaims,
Romanians, Tatars, aso aso... prospering in literacy, learning foreign lanfguages, and
translating the Bibles and other books... great boom of tolerance, without religious
wars, and with political and economic prosperity.
And Poles were not civilisation, like Jews are. What did Jews?
And btw, Poland hosted you 1000 years, and you did not hosted Poles.
Insted of it, you are during last decades making a campaign against Poland
on the world arena, to rob us, and caluminating us for things, we did not
do to you, and spreding lies about us. This is what you did after so many
years of guesting you here, providing for you, and giving you priviledges.
Surely, Kaifang Jews did influenced Chinese toQuote:
No. Historically the passing of inventions has gone from east to west anyhow. It is only recently even a little has gone the other way. Investment? come on, they're not an Asian Tiger economy, you're talking out your arse.
build the computer and send the rocket into space... :picard2:
Ridiculous.
'Name one thing Jews did.'
'Here are a million things.'
'Ah but you did those in our countries.'
'...OK, what about Israel, which is far more relevant than East Euro shitfuckistans?'
'Ah, but Israel is built on the European model. So really those are ours too.'
'But your entire civilisation is derived from Near Eastern civilisation-founders who were then co-opted by barbarian Indo-European horsefuckers!'
'That doesn't count.'
OK, then, why was it us, and not you, who did them? also, until recently, most Jews lived in their own towns and neighbourhoods, without even adhering to the most basic European customs. This is joke-level argumentation.
Sephardic average IQ is 99.
You could do better... you just waisted your 140 IQ again... :pout:
good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Rethel of Retheley
lol, that guy is annoying. I don't know why people still argue with him.
There is a big Sephardic Jewish community in France (400 000). It's not rare to meet Sephardic Jews who are 100% and married to people from the same ethnic group.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vascontelo
Do they look MENA or just South Euro?Quote:
Originally Posted by Paris-Brest
You have more than twice the ammount of dislikes received than likes(and it's not that the sample is small)Quote:
Originally Posted by Fractal
But I dont think it is 180+IQs that Asians are lacking(in fact I think the will potentially top the list soon), I think its more a matter of other qualities(culture, creativity, risk taking, dominance, etc.)Quote:
Originally Posted by Petalpusher
wow, I see a very small impact of brain size(maybe as they are able to pinpoint better the areas the effect is bigger)Quote:
Originally Posted by TEUTORIGOS
The Sephardic Jews i've seen come from North Africa and Turkey..In general North African Jews don't look like North African Muslims..They have lighter skin and different facial features..Sometimes they have light eyes..The Turkish Jews in general look like other Turkish people but i think Turkey has more diversity than N.A..Quote:
Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo
I live in Israel so I see Sephardic Jews and Ashkenazi Jews in my school everyday.
I know school isn't the best indication for intelligence or IQ but i have to say, that at least in my class the Sephardi jews(Bulgarian and North African) doing much better in school and tests than the Ashkenazi jews.
Just remember that until the expulsion from spain(and even later in Amsterdam) the sephardi jews were the smarter group.
I think the IQ Differences are mainly due to environmental reasons and less due to a genetical reason.
If you are talking about nobel prizes- don't forget that most of the Sephardic jews lived in North Africa and the blakans while the Ashkenazi jews lived in the USA and Northern Europe- where they had more opportunities and tools to succeed.
Sephardic Jews have a more ancient and cultured history about them compared to the later Ashkenazim.
@Cristiano viejo
I think grand Inquisitor Torquemada really had Jewish descent. It's just being downplayed though.
Being of Jewish descent is no obstacle to being a good Christian.
One of the best theologians of the Church, Teresa de Avila, a saint of Spain, also had Jewish ancestors, his grandfather was a Sephardic.
As for the higher Ashkenazim IQ, part of it may be due to environmental pressures and part of it maybe due to hybrid vigor. Like in plants and animals, when two different strains or races breed together, they turn out stronger or smarter than their purer parents. Seeing that Ashkenazis are half European and half Semitic, then they might be a result of hybrid vigor.
This is a very silly statement. They're as old as each other, as they stem from the same population group.Quote:
Originally Posted by Selurong
Sephardic peoples are not that much more semitic than Ashkenazis genetically.Quote:
Originally Posted by Selurong
There is nothing wrong with the concept of IQ tests. They are not a bad indicator. The problem is that there are several dimensions of spatial, numerical or verbal intelligence. Very, very few tests manage to cover all of those dimensions. Plus they have to test both divergent and convergent thinking. Accomplished scientists (especially those in physical science) excel in every dimension of intelligence.Quote:
Originally Posted by TEUTORIGOS
Person with an IQ of 110 (rarity of 1 in 4) means that person is in the 75th percentile or in the top 25 percentile.Quote:
Originally Posted by Petalpusher
Person with and IQ of 120 (rarity of 1 in 11) means that person is in the 90.87 percentile or in the top 10 percentile. IQ of 135 is the 99th percentile or 1 in 100. The average nobel prize in physics laureate has an IQ of 159. That is the rarity of 1 in almost 24000 and is the 99.9958094411 percentile. I would say economy is led and general advancements made by the top 0.01 percentile. The rest are working bees.
As you have said the more important thing is in having the big number of high IQ people not the big average although it may or may not come hand in hand. AJs have about 4.5 times 140+ IQ people per capita then most other nations.
I do believe for commerce, technology and arts, 120-130 can do wonders, some could be more grounded, inventive, social etc.. individuals can be gifted for music, litterature, trading, inventing stuff etc.. rather than just total math heads, so i wouldn't rule out anything other than really the highest percentile since you will mostly find them concentated in science fields and a fully "complete" nation cannot solely rely on that either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wota fuq
Ashkenazi are always hard to compare, if you were to put them all back in a real nation like Israel (let's say) you would have a decent average but nothing extraordinary, it's 95 or something and yet you would have indeed a really significant portion of the population with extremely high IQ hidden in that average. Which would likely show the same for any other top IQ nation, if you were extracting even on some non ethnic random criterias a part of its population, like those who settled abroad for business for example...you would get a higher average and a higher proportion of top percentiles.
you want high i.q than look
at German Jews the purest aschenazi in German culture
and you get Einstein and Oppenheimer a machine lol :cool:
in Israel many of the people are mixed with Sephardi and mizrachi jews {no offense i my self mixed of those groups and i am saying the truth here even if it is hard to hear }
so a chance to find a full aschenazi is more in usa Jews than in Israel .
and even in Israel the high- tech is pretty good so there are some good apples
out there .
One of my best friends in Israel is a a Moroccan Jew with an IQ of 130. I don't know many Ashkenazis from Israel though so I cant compare.
i think it is a combination of genetics + environment
if Einstein would have grown in much backward place { in terms of technology , and culture } i doubt he would accomplished
what he did same goes for Oppenheimer and other German Jews who won noble prize or other prizes
i am not denying they are much more gifted than the average person but they have to grow in civilized culture environment to reach most of there potential .
.אתה נכון גבר. אם אשכנזים מאיפה המזרח אני חושב הם יהיו אותו הדברQuote:
Originally Posted by kingjohn
Einstein did grow up in a backwards place. Why do you think he left?Quote:
Originally Posted by kingjohn
A great little quote from when Einstein presented his theory of relativity in France (translations vary):
“If I am proved correct, the Germans will call me a German, the Swiss will call me a Swiss citizen, and the French will call me a great scientist. If relativity is proved wrong, the French will call me a Swiss, the Swiss will call me a German, and the Germans will call me a Jew.
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Originally Posted by SkyBurn
run a way from from Nazis he knew where the wind flow that's why he left ......
Germany was not a backward place at all it is not a village in Ukraine and not a cave in morocco central Europe
thanks for sharing his quote interesting anyhow :)
regards
adam
That's mostly true (bar German Jewish bankers), most people nowadays don't realise that Sephardim used to be on top.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wadaad
If I'm not mistaken, when Oliver Cromwell decided to allow Jews back into Britain, the Sephardim tried to convince him not to let the Ashkenazim in, because they saw them as so backwards! :laugh:
Speaking as someone with some Sephardi ancestry (but more Ashkenazi) & with an IQ in the 99th percentile I'd say that IQ is bullshit. It doesn't test things like creativity. I also think it's cultural.