Do you think that the South East Asian is real?
is a way to know wich specific country? Dai are southern Chineses.. but it could be something else south east asian
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Do you think that the South East Asian is real?
is a way to know wich specific country? Dai are southern Chineses.. but it could be something else south east asian
You are similar to user manu1515 who is also Central Italian (Lazio and Marche, I believe). You two should probably marry :D
about the Kavkaz strong
i have two relatives (5th cousins) on 23andme who have 4 grandparents turkish (one with ties to the black seas; one who is a chechen-kurd)
and one who is half Chechen (grozny) half azerbaijani
i seem to have some affinity to Chechens
Yeah, you seem to get 1-2% East Asian on every run. Don't know what to think of that. Maybe nothing, most likely.
Post your HarappaWorld results.
HarappaWorld 4-Ancestors Oracle
1 Mediterranean 29.39
2 Caucasian 25.72
3 NE-Euro 23.59
4 SW-Asian 9.98
5 Baloch 9.17
6 SE-Asian 1.60
Using 1 population approximation:
1 tuscan_1000genomes @ 6.362504
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% cypriot_behar +50% french_hgdp @ 4.317332
Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% cypriot_behar +25% orcadian_hgdp +25% spaniard_1000genomes @ 2.483052
Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 basque_hgdp + georgia-jew_behar + hungarian_behar + sephardic-jew_behar @ 1.666742
i did also the cromosome painting.. i found also amerindian and subsaharaian on that
what is your general experience with the chromosome painting?
Why would it be nothing? Than Siberian in EEs is nothing too. I don't like double criteria when people run same calcs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
Italy isn't isolated, there are many ways how could it reach Italy, Huns are one option.
on the chromosome painting i can find all the population of the world, i have even Oceanian
Here i fell very IMAGINE of John Lennon
https://youtu.be/he-EFFVvwME
https://i.postimg.cc/FYwgr7Dw/Painting.png
Your East Asian score is 2%, not 0.02%.Quote:
Originally Posted by GiCa
Anyways, congrats on your results.
:clap2:
very nice
2% south east asian is a big surprise
why didnt paint that on 23andme ..
i m curious i d like to find tools to know wich south east asian country im more similar
probabilmente perche fa parte della tua ascendenza italiana, nel senso che la maggior parte degli europei marcano un po' di DNA asiatico. Per esempio, anch'io ho 2% senza avere antenati asiatici. potrebbe essere che tu abbia piu 'asiatico' che il toscano medio ma devi separare i risultati GEDmatch da quei di 23andme. 23andme ti sta dicendo la tua etnicita, GEDmatch ti sta dicendo i vari gruppi che contribuirono alle popolazioni che formano il tuo lignaggio durante le epoche. quindi, se un italiano sia 25% ENF, 25% WHG, 25% nero e 25% asiatico, e tu sei 100% italiana, riceverai 100% italiano su 23andme ma qualcosa come 25% ENF eccetera su GEDmatch. non vuol dire che tu non provenga dallo stivale italicoQuote:
Originally Posted by GiCa
e' dire: e' interessante cio che conta le varie calcolatrici di GEDmatch ma non sta contradicendo i risultati di 23andme. meglio dire, sta aggiungendo un'altro livello d'informazione a quello piu basico che si trova su 23andme ed altri siti commerciali.
I really don't think the Asian is real. The small percentages on Gedmatch calculators vary wildly (and are often flatly impossible, like Oceanian). If it occurs frequently within a population or can be tied to some known historical event, I'll believe it. But otherwise, I need more evidence.
cause its not thereQuote:
Originally Posted by GiCa
in gedmatch fewer snps are evaluated on newest chips - i get 55k tops and random shit like 1.5% southeast asian on K15. i recommend G25 these calcs are pushing 10 years
Good. Kind of Tuscan results.
That's East asian, not south east asian.Quote:
Originally Posted by GiCa
Where I can use G25?Quote:
Originally Posted by Vid Flumina
A bit southern shifted for a Tuscan, but probably still in the tuscan range. There are ethnic Tuscans with your same profile, I'm 100% sure.
You're a central italian basically (I think you already knew that).
I parenti su 23andme possono dare indicazioni?Quote:
Originally Posted by Longbowman
parenti con 4 nonni nati in uno stesso paese:
39 Usa (dice poco.. Molti sono in parte italiani)
14 Italia
2 Turchia (sembrano una con geni vicino al Mar Nero, l altro con geni Ceceni, quindi sempre Mar Nero/Caucaso)
2 Canada (stesso discorso degli Stati Uniti)
2 Portorico (non hanno italiano ma porto Rico ha avuto un'immigrazione forte di gente dalla Corsica che ha qualcosa a che vedere con la Toscana visto che sono di fronte a noi)
1 Regno Unito
1 Spagna (il cognome o nickname sembra però italiano)
1 Svezia
In N.Italy there's increased West Med in Eurogenes K13, I've seen many Lombards or Piedmontese below 20% East Med. (Not joking)Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
Think about Bergamo, they have 0 East Med ancestry (not the East Med from Gedmatch). Litterally 0. Same for most of Veneto etc. According to G25 models.
East Med ancestry truly begins at Firenze level.
One example from Veneto :
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...dmatch-results
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 29.04
2 West_Med 24.26
3 Baltic 15.96
4 East_Med 14.30
5 West_Asian 13.85
And this is a standard result, neither southern or northern shifted for a Northern Italian
Standard? I doubt that. To me it's one of the Northernmost ones out there. In fact you being half Central French are probably still around 20% EM.Quote:
Originally Posted by Samnium
suppongo di si ma la pittura autosomica e' un modo superiore di raccogliere informazione genetica. Forse se 15% dei tuoi parenti fossero russi o qualcosa di simile potremmo cominciare a considerare che potesse essere che avessi dell'ascendenza slava, ma non c'e niente di molto sorprendente fra i tuoi parenti, come hai gia menzionato la diaspora italiana e' ben diffusa ed enorme.Quote:
Originally Posted by GiCa
più che altro mi sono saltati all occhio questi parenti del anatolia/Caucaso sul Mar NeroQuote:
Originally Posted by Longbowman
1 turca con metà ascendenza di una città sul Mar Nero
1 che si descrive Ceceno Curdizzato
1 Azera/Cecena
ho anche dei parenti del Libano (non lo hanno messo) ma lo vedo dalla loro ancestry paint
parlando invece di Europa ho corrispondenze col mondo del Regno Unito (una con 4 nonni) l altra delle isole britanniche (3 nonni UK, 1 nonno irlandese)
Sorprendentemente non ho corrispondenze con i paesi vicini tipo Francia, Svizzera, Austria, Slovenia o balcani
Not at all, he has a common result, and I've seen many northern italians that are more northern than that... In fact he's very typical for a venetian. Even for a piedmontese.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
Regarding me, well I've haven't taken a test, so I can't say, 20% EM is a pretty huge amount even for an half-half, so.
And don't forget that the result over there has 13% West-Asian which is a lot. Not at all "Northern shifted"
I also score some East Asian on GEDmatch, but that's due to the low coverage of the modern chip they use.
North_Sea 11.74 Pct Atlantic 13.15 Pct Baltic 3.69 Pct Eastern_Euro - West_Med 21.12 Pct West_Asian 14.69 Pct East_Med 27.58 Pct Red_Sea 5.85 Pct South_Asian - Southeast_Asian 0.5 Pct Siberian - Amerindian - Oceanian - Northeast_African 1.68 Pct Sub-Saharan -
I don't seem to score East Asian on Global25
Target: Ajeje_Brazorf_scaled
Distance: 2.0043% / 0.0200434349.2 TUR_Barcin_N 19.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara 13.0 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps 10.4 Levant_PPNB 4.6 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N 1.8 MAR_Taforalt 1.6 WHG
Mine
37.26 Mediterranean Farmer
24.88 Baltic Hunter Gatherer
22.32 Anatolian Farmer
12.93 Middle Eastern Herder
1.67 East Asian Farmer
0.55 Bantu Farmer
0.39 Pygmy Hunter Gatherer
Would be interesting to know what you get if they include Sicilian Hunter GathererQuote:
Originally Posted by GiCa
Are they different from others?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tauromachos
I can't say for sure this topic is fairly new for myself i didn't even knew that such folks existedQuote:
Originally Posted by GiCa
until recently but apparently they do : https://www.biorxiv.org/content/bior...92871.full.pdf
There is even a gedmatch sample which has been posted at eupedia
With all respect let me have my doubts. Maybe that could be the average for some province but definitely not for the macroregion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Samnium
Eurogenes k13
Im really Caucasus shifted Tuscan
Theese results are interesting:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
2 88.6% Tuscan + 11.4% Ossetian @ 2.55
9 88.3% Tuscan + 11.7% Balkar @ 2.8
10 89.5% Tuscan + 10.5% Georgian @ 2.83
11 90.1% Tuscan + 9.9% Abhkasian @ 2.83
16 89.2% Tuscan + 10.8% North_Ossetian @ 2.89
19 88.6% Tuscan + 11.4% Kabardin @ 2.97
20 88.9% Tuscan + 11.1% Adygei @ 3
KAVKAZ POWER
https://zvuk-m.com/wp-content/upload.../876546545.jpg
Viva la Toscana
Now you need to learn how to cook psihalujQuote:
Originally Posted by GiCa
Differences between me and tuscans on Eurogenes k15
West Asian 9,46 +2.91% (peaks Abkhasians)
Atlantic 19,73 +2.11% (peaks French Basques)
Red Sea 3,33 +1.47% (peaks Saudis)
East Med 19,64 +1.39% (peaks Yemenite Jewish)
South East Asian 0,14 +1,37% (peaks Dais)
North East African 0,1 +0.28% (peaks Ethiopians Aris)
Amerindian 0.03 -0.03% (peaks Karitanas)
Subsaharian 0.06 -0.06% (peaks Yorubans)
Oceanian 0.08 -0.08% (peaks Papuans)
South Asian 0,43 -0.43% (peaks Sakillis)
Eastern Europe 3,37 -0.98 (peaks Maris)
Baltic 7,22 -1.11% (peaks Lithuanians)
West Med 20,24 -2.53% (peaks Sardinians)
North Sea 16,08 -4.25% (peaks West Norvegians)
Siberian 0 same 0 (peaks in Evens)
Basically i score less the northern euro components, Atlantic excluded (wich is anyway not a northern component ad it peaks in the basques) and more the Southern euro/Caucasus and extra europe
Nice results!
My Chromosomes Painting
Is this Real? Have I really each cromosomes so different between them?
Is there some expert to explain me something more?
Eurogenes K15
Enjoy
https://i.postimg.cc/K35hQbxF/YW6913643-4-F2710.gif
^ wow I have a large chunk of DNA painted only Yellow wich isEastern Europe (people like Ukrainians etc..) I very never imagined that
It maybe explains why on 23andme I get pure East Euro like Poles relatives
I've seen dozens of Veneto results probably, put him on the K13 calculator and you would find that he plot like someone from Veneto, nothing odd, really.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
https://i.imgur.com/BqGx59N.jpg
He's not particuliarly NW shifted, there are people in Italy that come out as nearly 50% Tuscan 50% scandinavian or N.European... And actually the contrary, he's rather balkan shifted...