Distance to: Sovanz_scaled
0.34163088 Amerindian_Native
0.47147660 East_Asian
0.73315182 African_Nigerian
0.75301215 Oceanian_Papuan
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Distance to: Sovanz_scaled
0.34163088 Amerindian_Native
0.47147660 East_Asian
0.73315182 African_Nigerian
0.75301215 Oceanian_Papuan
Ahah i was just reading the admix name, not seeing your username. Run the distances TAB i said, that's all!Quote:
Originally Posted by Laredo
Nature has already chosen for me.:(Quote:
Originally Posted by Upsilander
"The Devil Sent You To Laredo"Quote:
Originally Posted by Laredo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4Ua2c_N6vM
"El diablo te envió a Laredo"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4MtXp7uEtQ
So this confirms amerindians are indeed closer to europeans than anyone else RIGHT? thats all i want to know lolQuote:
Originally Posted by gixajo
Than anyone else among those 4 references, because there are many non-european peoples that are quite close, as you can see with that Afghan reference.Quote:
Originally Posted by Laredo
Most Europeans will be a little bit closer to Amerindians than East Asians, for some people it's very close which is actually surprising because Amerindians are supposed to have ancient West Eurasian through their huge ANE, and not East Asians.Quote:
Originally Posted by Laredo
Yet, I failed to understand why some people glorified East Asians or something it's mostly older white folks with yellow fever If u know what I mean.Quote:
Originally Posted by Upsilander
Distance to: Chinshen_scaled
0.84398454 Oceanian_Papuan
0.65750461 Amerindian_Native
0.64840300 East_Asian
0.78441759 African_Nigerian
What's your ancestry?Quote:
Originally Posted by chinshen
White hair was the correct answer.Quote:
Originally Posted by gixajo
Quote:
Originally Posted by Upsilander
Assyrian from Eastern Anatolia.
Quote:
Originally Posted by chinshen
There must be something wrong with your datas (target or source). I have a few in flashball collection and mine that have very high distances but not that much and all combined. It should as well come out in increasing order like this :Quote:
Originally Posted by chinshen
https://i.postimg.cc/3NTR4c5W/upsivah1.png
I don't know, it could be. This is what I gotQuote:
Originally Posted by Upsilander
Attachment 132912
Here is a second try.Quote:
Originally Posted by Upsilander
Attachment 132913
Because you have ADC on in "multi" mode. Just run the TAB "distance"Quote:
Originally Posted by chinshen
And you also mixed up target and source datas. Your coords should go in "target" and the dataset in "source"
Please tell me what I did wrong so I can correct it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Upsilander
Thank you for correcting me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Upsilander
Is this better:
Distance to: Chinshen_scaled
0.62904331 East_Asian
0.63787317 Amerindian_Native
0.76099684 African_Nigerian
0.81878527 Oceanian_Papuan
Attachment 132914
Yes seems good now but i can't read it. Simply copy paste the values in your post.Quote:
Originally Posted by chinshen
Distance to: Chinshen_scaledQuote:
Originally Posted by Upsilander
0.62904331 East_Asian
0.63787317 Amerindian_Native
0.76099684 African_Nigerian
0.81878527 Oceanian_Papuan
All good now. Seems like a pass :thumb001:Quote:
Originally Posted by chinshen
I ran some Assyrian samples and about half passed, some that did not were very close to. It was surprising. I would like to hear more about you region or if it's an isolated community if you want in pm. Very interesting that you got so high distances, in particular to East Asian and Amerindian!
My family originated from the Hakkari region of Eastern Turkey.Quote:
Originally Posted by Upsilander
Attachment 132917Attachment 132918
Distance to: Pedro_scaled
0.59179834 Amerindian_Native
0.60296572 East_Asian
0.73192602 African_Nigerian
0.80685722 Oceanian_Papuan
Distance to: Dad_scaled
0.59223554 Amerindian_Native
0.59890033 East_Asian
0.72577870 African_Nigerian
0.80332321 Oceanian_Papuan
Distance to: Mom_scaled
0.59691619 Amerindian_Native
0.60890596 East_Asian
0.73978084 African_Nigerian
0.79976103 Oceanian_Papuan
didnt pass
Distance to: Svetozar_scaled
0.55387465 East_Asian
0.55503726 Amerindian_Native
0.74098876 African_Nigerian
0.76648098 Oceanian_Papuan
I don't know if it has anything to do with my score, but both of my haplogroups (My Y-haplo is R1b-L23-L277.1 and mTDNA is H4) are of West Eurasian origin and my autosomal is 100% North West Asian.Quote:
Originally Posted by Upsilander
Distance to: MV_scaled
0.59956550 Amerindian_Native
0.61095067 East_Asian
0.74860220 African_Nigerian
0.80290150 Oceanian_Papuan
Almost white right now
Distance to: G25noricum_scaled
0.59647800 Amerindian_Native
0.61356753 East_Asian
0.77652824 African_Nigerian
0.81280753 Oceanian_Papuan
It's possible if you guys managed to remain that isolated for thousands of years. After seeing yours and some of the people's results, if i was a geneticist, i would pack my bags right now and try to uncover ancients DNA in your region! I would look around eastern Anatolia for sure to see what else can be found in this location, that looks breathtaking by the way.Quote:
Originally Posted by chinshen
Because look at this bad boy hunter-gatherer from 15 500 years ago in west Anatolia: Mr Pinarbasi
Code:Distance to: Turkey_Epipaleolithic: Pinarbasi__BC_13461__Cov_73.74%
0.64092498 East_Asian
0.65288030 Amerindian_Native
0.78102754 African_Nigerian
0.83218258 Oceanian_Papuan
He laughs at my passing standards, that we ironically already had to lower for "north Europeans" :p
There was likely an eastern flavor of it, possibly you dodged most of what came later in what is now Turkey. So very fascinating.
Some very late Magdalenian are also impressive in Europe like Oberkassel:
Code:Distance to: Germany_Late_Magdalenian_Oberkassel:OKL001.A0101__BC_11995__Cov_63.43%
0.70085391 Amerindian_Native
0.71696876 East_Asian
0.86180128 African_Nigerian
0.87924881 Oceanian_Papuan
The unbeatable champions at this game will always remain the Mesolithic proper like the Swiss Bichon (perfect coverage too):
Code:Distance to: Switzerland_Bichon:Bichon.SG__BC_11748__Cov_99.08%
0.83814291 Amerindian_Native
0.84905426 East_Asian
0.97727826 African_Nigerian
0.99448320 Oceanian_Papuan
I think my slight bump in distances actually comes from a tiny increase in ancestry from these particular Bichon HG. I noticed this pattern in my samples for some individuals in the area.
But it begs the question, who brought us all down if both the mesolithic and the neolithic descendants of Pinarbasi were that distant... There are several reasons, the main one, people are not ready to know the answer.
A few more at the extremity of Europe or outside
Distance to: Palestinian
0.59643394 East_Asian
0.60436737 Amerindian_Native
0.70047498 African_Nigerian
0.79339653 Oceanian_Papuan
Distance to: Pashtun_North_Afghanistan
0.51274282 East_Asian
0.51538035 Amerindian_Native
0.73232808 African_Nigerian
0.74811081 Oceanian_Papuan
Distance to: Maltese
0.47455363 East_Asian
0.49796122 Amerindian_Native
0.65052615 African_Nigerian
0.73430988 Oceanian_Papuan
Westernmost Armenians (Ararat) pass!
Distance to: Armenian_Ararat
0.60418307 East_Asian
0.60745174 Amerindian_Native
0.75387139 African_Nigerian
0.80139968 Oceanian_Papuan
Average Greek and Portugueses pass
Distance to: Greek
0.60835331 East_Asian
0.60903303 Amerindian_Native
0.75532616 African_Nigerian
0.80604006 Oceanian_Papuan
Distance to: Portuguese
0.60051189 Amerindian_Native
0.60819840 East_Asian
0.75221113 African_Nigerian
0.80621035 Oceanian_Papuan
Main reason some Iberians will be borderline is Taforalt, as it had signficant SSA and that translates very clearly in distance, even with just a tiny bit of it, this bring down distance quickly. Of course harboring SSA increases the other distances, it's a communicating vessel, that's why you have to clear all 4.
Distance to: Taforalt
0.56641087 African_Nigerian
0.66664721 East_Asian
0.68669421 Amerindian_Native
0.83033829 Oceanian_Papuan
Sardinian, very easy pass
Distance to: Sardinian
0.63201006 East_Asian
0.63952191 Amerindian_Native
0.77692648 African_Nigerian
0.82146981 Oceanian_Papuan
But not Sicilians (very close though)
Distance to: Sicilian
0.60418972 Amerindian_Native
0.60518856 East_Asian
0.74625845 African_Nigerian
0.80283315 Oceanian_Papuan
Some Russians and Finns fail at the Amerindian and East Asian, so it's debatable if the threshold is too high on that but i would say below 60 East Asian you have to have really substantial Siberian or else, because it shouldn't be that related to Koreans and Japaneses but obviously still is to some extent.
Distance to: Russian_Ryazan
0.57020466 Amerindian_Native
0.59083089 East_Asian
0.77192988 African_Nigerian
0.80191764 Oceanian_Papuan
We match almost exactly on each:Quote:
Originally Posted by nittionia
Distance to: SC_Official_AveragedG25_Scaled
0.58264823 Amerindian_Native
0.60466779 East_Asian
0.77055697 African_Nigerian
0.80178503 Oceanian_Papuan
Distance to: Kostek_scaled
0.59101645 Amerindian_Native
0.61319034 East_Asian
0.77081466 African_Nigerian
0.81556377 Oceanian_Papuan
Distance to: Grace_scaled
0.59107767 Amerindian_Native
0.61401707 East_Asian
0.78416982 African_Nigerian
0.81291249 Oceanian_Papuan
Yes, it is a high mountainous area and we lived very isolated until the nineteenth century.Quote:
Originally Posted by Upsilander
Distance to: Balboa
0.62907907 Amerindian_Native
0.62934129 East_Asian
0.76996017 African_Nigerian
0.82356428 Oceanian_Papuan
These are not criteria for IE
Distance to: Sweden_CA_Battle-Axe
0.57492458 Amerindian_Native
0.59954985 East_Asian
0.76393313 African_Nigerian
0.80041431 Oceanian_Papuan
Distance to: Bell_Beaker_England
0.57412854 Amerindian_Native
0.60263004 East_Asian
0.77215629 African_Nigerian
0.80413114 Oceanian_Papuan
Distance to: Bell_Beaker_Germany_Rhine-Main
0.55903380 Amerindian_Native
0.58524189 East_Asian
0.76149022 African_Nigerian
0.79328659 Oceanian_Papuan
Distance to: Bell_Beaker_France_Hauts-de-France
0.56960062 Amerindian_Native
0.60495683 East_Asian
0.78631777 African_Nigerian
0.80576313 Oceanian_Papuan
Distance to: Bell_Beaker_Netherlands
0.57461734 Amerindian_Native
0.60326793 East_Asian
0.77184677 African_Nigerian
0.80344667 Oceanian_Papuan
Distance to: Bell_Beaker_Scotland
0.57438863 Amerindian_Native
0.60282543 East_Asian
0.76823185 African_Nigerian
0.80701559 Oceanian_Papuan
If I had to choose, I would rather be in Estonia and 1/2 Sweden.
Distance to: Estonian
0.57830066 Amerindian_Native
0.60245303 East_Asian
0.78115583 African_Nigerian
0.80898940 Oceanian_Papuan
then
Distance to: Armenian_Urfa
0.60674679 East_Asian
0.61122722 Amerindian_Native
0.75316037 African_Nigerian
0.80505635 Oceanian_Papuan
Quote:
Originally Posted by cass
If Estonians had to choose between being themselves or becoming purer like Balts, they'd choose the former.
Distance to: Oceanian_Papuan
0.80898940 Estonian
0.81547142 Latvian
0.81591249 Lithuanian
Distance to: East_Asian
0.60245303 Estonian
0.61344068 Latvian
0.61587831 Lithuanian
Distance to: African_Nigerian
0.78115583 Estonian
0.78573002 Lithuanian
0.78618396 Latvian
The real geneflow that made its way to Europe was not Korean or Japanese but Siberian, I think.
https://i.imgur.com/lCFgp2Y.png
It's clear the lower distances to, everything, but in particular to Amerindian came with the IE in the Bronze Age. That is justifiable by the ANE both Amerindians and eastern HG shared.
Probably 56 for Amerindian is the right value but East Asian and Papuan i don't find it acceptable to lower it much further when everybody and their grandmum was way more distant to them just before they arrived. It unfortunately only reinforces every empirical evidences we have about IE now that they were not what people imagined.
IndeedQuote:
Originally Posted by Russki
Distance to: Latvia_MN_Comb_Ware.SG
0.52855110 Amerindian_Native
0.60477333 East_Asian
0.80440253 African_Nigerian
0.81731072 Oceanian_Papuan
But there also had to be another wave.
Distance to: Saami_Sweden
0.45587322 Amerindian_Native
0.47382350 East_Asian
0.76327280 Oceanian_Papuan
0.76556981 African_Nigerian
I can't edit the op anymore so, either you consider 58 Amerindian is fine, or lower then start to look for a cute Karitiana nickname.
My white side seems to be white :)
Distance to: Eurafricanid-EU
0.60328806 Amerindian_Native
0.61125056 East_Asian
0.76471084 African_Nigerian
0.80956497 Oceanian_Papuan
Distance to: #Oda#_scaled
0.59055277 Amerindian_Native
0.61334556 East_Asian
0.77656572 African_Nigerian
0.81042077 Oceanian_Papuan