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    Distance to: Grace_scaled
    0.59107767 Amerindian_Native
    0.61401707 East_Asian
    0.78416982 African_Nigerian
    0.81291249 Oceanian_Papuan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Upsilander View Post
    It's possible if you guys managed to remain that isolated for thousands of years. After seeing yours and some of the people's results, if i was a geneticist, i would pack my bags right now and try to uncover ancients DNA in your region! I would look around eastern Anatolia for sure to see what else can be found in this location, that looks breathtaking by the way.


    Because look at this bad boy hunter-gatherer from 15 500 years ago in west Anatolia: Mr Pinarbasi

    Code:
    Distance to:    Turkey_Epipaleolithic: Pinarbasi__BC_13461__Cov_73.74%
    0.64092498    East_Asian
    0.65288030    Amerindian_Native
    0.78102754    African_Nigerian
    0.83218258    Oceanian_Papuan

    He laughs at my passing standards, that we ironically already had to lower for "north Europeans"

    There was likely an eastern flavor of it, possibly you dodged most of what came later in what is now Turkey. So very fascinating.




    Some very late Magdalenian are also impressive in Europe like Oberkassel:

    Code:
    Distance to:    Germany_Late_Magdalenian_Oberkassel:OKL001.A0101__BC_11995__Cov_63.43%
    0.70085391    Amerindian_Native
    0.71696876    East_Asian
    0.86180128    African_Nigerian
    0.87924881    Oceanian_Papuan


    The unbeatable champions at this game will always remain the Mesolithic proper like the Swiss Bichon (perfect coverage too):

    Code:
    Distance to:    Switzerland_Bichon:Bichon.SG__BC_11748__Cov_99.08%
    0.83814291    Amerindian_Native
    0.84905426    East_Asian
    0.97727826    African_Nigerian
    0.99448320    Oceanian_Papuan

    I think my slight bump in distances actually comes from a tiny increase in ancestry from these particular Bichon HG. I noticed this pattern in my samples for some individuals in the area.




    But it begs the question, who brought us all down if both the mesolithic and the neolithic descendants of Pinarbasi were that distant... There are several reasons, the main one, people are not ready to know the answer.
    Yes, it is a high mountainous area and we lived very isolated until the nineteenth century.

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    Distance to: Balboa
    0.62907907 Amerindian_Native
    0.62934129 East_Asian
    0.76996017 African_Nigerian
    0.82356428 Oceanian_Papuan

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    These are not criteria for IE


    Distance to: Sweden_CA_Battle-Axe
    0.57492458 Amerindian_Native
    0.59954985 East_Asian
    0.76393313 African_Nigerian
    0.80041431 Oceanian_Papuan

    Distance to: Bell_Beaker_England
    0.57412854 Amerindian_Native
    0.60263004 East_Asian
    0.77215629 African_Nigerian
    0.80413114 Oceanian_Papuan

    Distance to: Bell_Beaker_Germany_Rhine-Main
    0.55903380 Amerindian_Native
    0.58524189 East_Asian
    0.76149022 African_Nigerian
    0.79328659 Oceanian_Papuan

    Distance to: Bell_Beaker_France_Hauts-de-France
    0.56960062 Amerindian_Native
    0.60495683 East_Asian
    0.78631777 African_Nigerian
    0.80576313 Oceanian_Papuan


    Distance to: Bell_Beaker_Netherlands
    0.57461734 Amerindian_Native
    0.60326793 East_Asian
    0.77184677 African_Nigerian
    0.80344667 Oceanian_Papuan


    Distance to: Bell_Beaker_Scotland
    0.57438863 Amerindian_Native
    0.60282543 East_Asian
    0.76823185 African_Nigerian
    0.80701559 Oceanian_Papuan

    If I had to choose, I would rather be in Estonia and 1/2 Sweden.

    Distance to: Estonian
    0.57830066 Amerindian_Native
    0.60245303 East_Asian
    0.78115583 African_Nigerian
    0.80898940 Oceanian_Papuan


    then

    Distance to: Armenian_Urfa
    0.60674679 East_Asian
    0.61122722 Amerindian_Native
    0.75316037 African_Nigerian
    0.80505635 Oceanian_Papuan

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    Quote Originally Posted by cass View Post
    If I had to choose, I would rather be in Estonia and 1/2 Sweden.

    Distance to: Estonian
    0.57830066 Amerindian_Native
    0.60245303 East_Asian
    0.78115583 African_Nigerian
    0.80898940 Oceanian_Papuan


    then

    Distance to: Armenian_Urfa
    0.60674679 East_Asian
    0.61122722 Amerindian_Native
    0.75316037 African_Nigerian
    0.80505635 Oceanian_Papuan

    If Estonians had to choose between being themselves or becoming purer like Balts, they'd choose the former.

    Distance to: Oceanian_Papuan
    0.80898940 Estonian
    0.81547142 Latvian
    0.81591249 Lithuanian

    Distance to: East_Asian
    0.60245303 Estonian
    0.61344068 Latvian
    0.61587831 Lithuanian

    Distance to: African_Nigerian
    0.78115583 Estonian
    0.78573002 Lithuanian
    0.78618396 Latvian

    The real geneflow that made its way to Europe was not Korean or Japanese but Siberian, I think.



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    It's clear the lower distances to, everything, but in particular to Amerindian came with the IE in the Bronze Age. That is justifiable by the ANE both Amerindians and eastern HG shared.

    Probably 56 for Amerindian is the right value but East Asian and Papuan i don't find it acceptable to lower it much further when everybody and their grandmum was way more distant to them just before they arrived. It unfortunately only reinforces every empirical evidences we have about IE now that they were not what people imagined.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Russki View Post
    If Estonians had to choose between being themselves or becoming purer like Balts, they'd choose the former.

    Distance to: Oceanian_Papuan
    0.80898940 Estonian
    0.81547142 Latvian
    0.81591249 Lithuanian

    Distance to: East_Asian
    0.60245303 Estonian
    0.61344068 Latvian
    0.61587831 Lithuanian

    Distance to: African_Nigerian
    0.78115583 Estonian
    0.78573002 Lithuanian
    0.78618396 Latvian

    The real geneflow that made its way to Europe was not Korean or Japanese but Siberian, I think.


    Indeed

    Distance to: Latvia_MN_Comb_Ware.SG
    0.52855110 Amerindian_Native
    0.60477333 East_Asian
    0.80440253 African_Nigerian
    0.81731072 Oceanian_Papuan


    But there also had to be another wave.

    Distance to: Saami_Sweden
    0.45587322 Amerindian_Native
    0.47382350 East_Asian
    0.76327280 Oceanian_Papuan
    0.76556981 African_Nigerian

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    I can't edit the op anymore so, either you consider 58 Amerindian is fine, or lower then start to look for a cute Karitiana nickname.
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    My white side seems to be white

    Distance to: Eurafricanid-EU
    0.60328806 Amerindian_Native
    0.61125056 East_Asian
    0.76471084 African_Nigerian
    0.80956497 Oceanian_Papuan
    Target: Eurafricanid_scaled
    Distance: 1.1621% / 0.01162128

    46.4 Catalan
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    4.0 Mesopotamian
    2.6 South_American_Native

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    Distance to: #Oda#_scaled
    0.59055277 Amerindian_Native
    0.61334556 East_Asian
    0.77656572 African_Nigerian
    0.81042077 Oceanian_Papuan

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