My true ancestry.com

This has been updated again. Has anyone else got any updates?

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Here's all my deepdive results now.

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http://i67.tinypic.com/211jmyp.jpg
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http://i63.tinypic.com/21l4yh3.jpg
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Hi Grace, do you know which level is requested on the website to be able to check shared DNA segments with these iceland vikings ? And, is there a way to know if these segments are gaelic or viking, sorry if my question look stupid, still learning :) I know vikings came a lot in my area, from Noirmoutiers island until nantes and would be interesting to know if these invasions had an impact on my DNA.

Deep dive

Spoiler!

Deep dive
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Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland
935 AD
SSG-A4
Total cM=57.07
Largest segment=23.42 cM (4 shared. Sample quality: 95)
Gaelic Child Viking Iceland
935 AD
YGS-B2
Total cM=23.47
Largest segment=15.52 cM (2 shared. Sample quality: 69)

Viking Sweden
1100 AD
stg021
Total cM=29.46
Largest segment=15.22 cM (2 shared. Sample quality: 89)

Ancestry
Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland
935 AD
SSG-A4
Total cM=111.0
Largest segment=56.38 cM (5 shared. Sample quality: 95)

Viking Norse Iceland
935 AD
KNS-A1
Total cM=28.31
Largest segment=20.57 cM (3 shared. Sample quality: 33)

Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland
935 AD
FSS-A1
Total cM=40.91
Largest segment=18.94 cM (4 shared. Sample quality: 47)

Czech Velke Prilepy
0 AD
Rise577
Total cM=16.94
Largest segment=16.94 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 42)

Viking Sweden
1100 AD
stg021
Total cM=44.46
Largest segment=16.0 cM (3 shared. Sample quality: 89)

Celtic Gladiator York
250 AD
6DRIF-21
Total cM=15.29
Largest segment=15.29 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 25)

Germano-Celtic Gladiator York
250 AD
6DRIF-3
Total cM=22.06
Largest segment=14.97 cM (3 shared. Sample quality: 29)


Nordic-Celtic Gladiator York
250 AD
6DRIF-18
Total cM=39.59
Largest segment=14.45 cM (5 shared. Sample quality: 24)

Gaelic Child Viking Iceland
935 AD
YGS-B2
Total cM=33.82
Largest segment=12.26 cM (3 shared. Sample quality: 69)

Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland
935 AD
VDP-A7
Total cM=9.31
Largest segment=9.31 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 63)

FTDNA
Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland
935 AD
SSG-A4
Total cM=166.32
Largest segment=56.38 cM (7 shared. Sample quality: 95)

Viking Norse Iceland
935 AD
KNS-A1
Total cM=28.3
Largest segment=20.57 cM (3 shared. Sample quality: 33)
Celtic Gladiator York
250 AD
6DRIF-21
Total cM=34.96
Largest segment=19.67 cM (2 shared. Sample quality: 25)

Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland
935 AD
FSS-A1
Total cM=40.91
Largest segment=18.94 cM (4 shared. Sample quality: 47)
Czech Velke Prilepy
0 AD
Rise577
Total cM=16.94
Largest segment=16.94 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 42)

Viking Sweden
1100 AD
stg021
Total cM=59.55
Largest segment=16.54 cM (4 shared. Sample quality: 89)

Nordic-Celtic Gladiator York
250 AD
6DRIF-18
Total cM=45.89
Largest segment=14.45 cM (7 shared. Sample quality: 24)

Gaelic Child Viking Iceland
935 AD
YGS-B2
Total cM=34.77
Largest segment=12.26 cM (3 shared. Sample quality: 69)
Germano-Celtic Gladiator York
250 AD
6DRIF-3
Total cM=21.99
Largest segment=12.08 cM (4 shared. Sample quality: 29)

My heritage
Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland
935 AD
SSG-A4
Total cM=124.17
Largest segment=56.38 cM (6 shared. Sample quality: 95)

Viking Norse Iceland
935 AD
KNS-A1
Total cM=28.3
Largest segment=20.57 cM (3 shared. Sample quality: 33)


Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland
935 AD
FSS-A1
Total cM=29.1
Largest segment=18.94 cM (3 shared. Sample quality: 47)

Czech Velke Prilepy
0 AD
Rise577
Total cM=16.94
Largest segment=16.94 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 42)

Viking Sweden
1100 AD
stg021
Total cM=44.89
Largest segment=16.54 cM (3 shared. Sample quality: 89)

Celtic Gladiator York
250 AD
6DRIF-21
Total cM=15.29
Largest segment=15.29 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 25)

Nordic-Celtic Gladiator York
250 AD
6DRIF-18
Total cM=29.15
Largest segment=14.45 cM (5 shared. Sample quality: 24)

Gaelic Child Viking Iceland
935 AD
YGS-B2
Total cM=51.34
Largest segment=12.26 cM (5 shared. Sample quality: 69)

Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland
935 AD
VDP-A7
Total cM=18.72
Largest segment=9.41 cM (2 shared. Sample quality: 63)

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Originally Posted by Western_French

Hi Grace, do you know which level is requested on the website to be able to check shared DNA segments with these iceland vikings ? And, is there a way to know if these segments are gaelic or viking, sorry if my question look stupid, still learning :) I know vikings came a lot in my area, from Noirmoutiers island until nantes and would be interesting to know if these invasions had an impact on my DNA.

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It is an interesting question. On Mytrueancestry the deep dive connections are done on the website so I don't think you can check yourself. The Gaelic/Norse breakdown of the samples comes from the Icelandic study here.

https://science.sciencemag.org/content/360/6392/1028

You can see the breakdown of the Icelandic samples here.

http://i63.tinypic.com/2sbwpr9.jpg

Personally I don't take these results as meaning I have actual heritage from these genomes although any closely related population will have some shared genes. It would be great if tests one day offer to see if you have actual ancestry from some of these genomes. I really think that sort of thing will be offered in the future as people have a real thirst for these sort of questions.

Some people have been looking at Gedmatch to see if they do share with some of the ancients uploaded there.

Thanks for this Grace. I don't take too much for granted these results either, I guess most native people from my region (Loire-Atlantic & Vendée) would have some slightly similar results. But I think it's really fascinating finding some real proves of all these medieval stories. Also, I really have a very low distance with one of these icelandic samples (2.5), hence my question, but from my account I can't see the reference of that sample in oder to relate to the chart you uploaded showing the breakdown between gaelic and viking propertions, but if I could I could more efficiently relate it, if it's SVK-A1 for example I would know for sure it's related to them. Maybe there are others ways to find out, is someone aware of an ancient kit on Gedmatch of a real viking (Norvegian or Danish) from the 9th century ?

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Originally Posted by Western_French

Thanks for this Grace. I don't take too much for granted these results either, I guess most native people from my region (Loire-Atlantic & Vendée) would have some slightly similar results. But I think it's really fascinating finding some real proves of all these medieval stories. Also, I really have a very low distance with one of these icelandic samples (2.5), hence my question, but from my account I can't see the reference of that sample in oder to relate to the chart you uploaded showing the breakdown between gaelic and viking propertions, but if I could I could more efficiently relate it, if it's SVK-A1 for example I would know for sure it's related to them. Maybe there are others ways to find out, is someone aware of an ancient kit on Gedmatch of a real viking (Norvegian or Danish) from the 9th century ?

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Post it and it might be possible to work out what sample it is. Is this a deep dive result? If it is due to distance I just take that as being a similar population. Many people like myself have a lot of closeness to some of the Lombard samples but that's because they are genetically Northern European.

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Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley

This has been updated again. Has anyone else got any updates?

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Thanks for telling us! None of my maps have changed, but my ancient populations have (updated in my sig). The site seems to have shifted me slightly further away from Celts and a bit closer to Vikings. My 'closest modern genetic populations' have also changed as well - I remember it predicting Norwegian was my closest ethnicity before, and now it's changed to Orcadian which seems to be more in line with both my known ancestry and stuff like the K36 calculator (my Irish also shot up from 8th to 4th place). Great update overall I think :)

This is the only information I have :

Sorry it's an attachment, couldn't figure how to embed pictures

Just to remind you
https://www.technologyreview.com/f/6...ight-be-bogus/
https://www.techtimes.com/articles/2...-are-wrong.htm

Yes, nobody should take these ancestry results for granted but gives a rough idea I think.

I have update in Ancient Samples from place 10 to 20 but no significant changes in Ancient Population.

https://i.imgur.com/Vc12eVD.png

https://i.imgur.com/EjqVfE6.png

https://i.imgur.com/cY0lY5V.png

My result :
Your closest Ancient populations...
Gaul
Gaul + Thracian (6.006)
Thracian + Frank (6.127)
Gaul (6.725)
Frank (9.134)
Thracian (10.47)

Your closest genetic modern populations...

1. North_Italian (10.47)
2. Serbian (11.40)
3. French (11.62)
4. Spanish_Galicia (12.24)

Your closest Archaeogenetic matches...
(Smaller numbers mean closer matches to you)

1. Cisalpine Gaul (590 AD) (6.725)
2. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (8.144)
3. Scythian Moldova (290 BC) (8.375)
4. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (9.134)
5. Medieval Tyrolian (670 AD) (9.223)
6. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (10.18)
7. Illyrian / Dalmatia (1600 BC) (10.47)
8. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (10.47)
9. Visigoth Mixed Slav Girona (550 AD) (10.87)
10. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (11.05)
11. Swiss Germanic (670 AD) (11.15)
12. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (11.2)
13. Medieval Frank (670 AD) (11.38)
14. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (11.6)
15. Iberian / Piedmont (670 AD) (11.91)
16. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (12.24)
17. Medieval Iberian Valencia (1200 AD) (12.66)
18. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (13.28)
19. Medieval Tyrolian (590 AD) (14.04)
20. [Hidden] - upgrade your account (14.1)


Attachment 89191

Ancient populations.

23andMe

Viking Icelandic + Longobard (2.422)
Viking Icelandic + Celt (3.314)
Viking Icelandic (5.531)
Longobard (5.844)
Celt (6.164)



Ancestry DNA

Viking Icelandic + Longobard (2.511)
Viking Icelandic + Celt (3.338)
Viking Icelandic (5.726)
Longobard (5.742)
Celt (6.043)

FTDNA

Viking Icelandic + Longobard (2.51)
Viking Icelandic + Celt (3.298)
Viking Icelandic (5.591)
Longobard (5.769)
Celt (6.155)

My heritage

Viking Icelandic + Longobard (2.441)
Viking Icelandic + Celt (3.161)
Longobard (5.61)
Viking Icelandic (5.672)
Celt (6.106)


Father FTDNA

Viking Icelandic + Longobard (2.895)
Viking Icelandic + Celt (3.29)
Longobard (5.736)
Viking Icelandic (6.676)
Celt (6.676)

Deep dive Euro Ancestry DNA upload



https://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y1...cestry_dna.png

I'm surprised people still take this website seriously; it changes every other day.

They are adding new samples so I think people are getting closer from their real ancestry but I agree it has not to be taken too seriously though

1. Icelander Late Medieval (1650 AD) (6.557)

My new closest sample makes sense given my ancestry.

1. The deep dive matches are total bunkum.
2. The deep dive matches are real but the total cMs/longest shared segments are far too high.
3. There's no problem at all with the deep dive matches

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Originally Posted by Ayetooey

I'm surprised people still take this website seriously; it changes every other day.

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So does 23andme and other companies but of course not everyday. None of this is set in stone and probably never will be with new ancient samples, updates etc etc

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Originally Posted by Ayetooey

I'm surprised people still take this website seriously; it changes every other day.

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I'm sure they have experienced an increase in their user base as a result of forums like this. So naturally, as more populations are added to their calculators the estimates are going to change.

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Originally Posted by Ayetooey

I'm surprised people still take this website seriously; it changes every other day.

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In the website's defense, the results change because they keep adding more samples, not necessarily because the site is inaccurate.

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Originally Posted by talombo

https://i.imgur.com/JNxA3ou.jpg

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your map is almost like mine
https://5.top4top.net/p_1281r5zkr1.jpeg

I used the mytrueancestry compare populations to groups

Bangladeshi
1. *Chola (35.02)
2. *Hun (35.02)
3. Chola + Hun (35.02)
4. Chola + Ottoman (37.23)


How do populations relate to each other?

Select Modern Group: Balochi

... by Autosomal DNA
... by Male DNA
... by Female DNA
... to closest Ancient group

1. *Ottoman (30.34)
2. *Alan (30.34)
3. Ottoman + Alan (30.34)
4. Ottoman + Cimmerian (32.15

1. Brahui (1.864)
2. Makrani (6.045)
3. Afghan_Pashtun (10.08)
4. Kalash (14.45)
5. Pathan (14.79)
6. Burusho (18.92)
7. Tadjik (18.94)
8. Afghan_Uzbeki (19.01)

Gypsy

How do populations relate to each other?

Select Modern Group

... by Autosomal DNA
... by Male DNA
... by Female DNA
... to closest Ancient group

1. Afghan_Uzbeki (23.29)
2. Tadjik (23.95)
3. Turkmen (24.53)
4. Afghan_Tadjik (24.57)
5. Afghan_Pashtun (25.74)
6. Makrani (26.24)
7. Balochi (26.86)
8. Brahui (27.39

1. *Roman (25.42)
2. *Ottoman (25.42)
3. Roman + Ottoman (25.42)
4. Seleucid + Ottoman (27.51)

my map:-
https://3.top4top.net/p_12812zsoe1.jpeg
https://1.top4top.net/p_1281bmk2z1.jpeg
my closest Archaeogenetic matches... is:
1. Egyptian Gladiator York (250 AD) (16.15) - 3DRIF-26
2. Ancient Egypt (650 BC) (17.04) - JK2911
3. Bronze Age Levant (2100 BC) (20.05) - I1705
4. Nekht-Ankh Ancient Egypt (1800 BC) (20.22) - Nekht-Ankh
5. Canaanite (1600 BC) (21.87) - ERS1790732
6. Ancient Egypt (650 BC) (22.99) - JK2134
7. Canaanite (1650 BC) (23.63) - ERS1790733
8. Bronze Age Levant (2250 BC) (24.14) - I1730
9. Roman Era Citizen / Lebanon (250 AD) (24.66) - QED-9
10. Ancient Egypt (50 BC) (25.56) - JK2888
11. Roman Era Citizen / Lebanon (250 AD) (25.75) - QED-2
12. Canaanite (1600 BC) (25.79) - ERS1790729
13. Neolithic Levant (4200 BC) (26.02) - I1169
14. Canaanite (1600 BC) (27.28) - ERS1790730
15. Roman Era Citizen / Lebanon (250 AD) (28.92) - QED-7
16. Samaritan (2000 AD) (29.26) - Unknown
17. Neolithic Levant (7000 BC) (30.31) - I0867
18. Crusader Knight Georgian / Lebanon (1250 AD) (31.46) - SI-38
19. Roman Era Citizen / Lebanon (250 AD) (33.08) - QED-4
20. Morisco Andalusia Iberia (1550 AD) (33.45) - I3808
21. Guanche Canary Islands (800 AD) (34.63) - gun011
22. Crusader Knight Syrian / Lebanon (1250 AD) (36.22) - SI-42
23. Crusader Knight Mix / Lebanon (1250 AD) (36.76) - SI-45
24. Hellenic Roman / Dodecanese (670 AD) (36.76) - CL30
25. Hittite Anatolia (1875 BC) (37.12) - MA2208
26. Hellenic Roman / Cretan (670 AD) (37.42) - CL38
27. Minoan (2000 BC) (38.07) - I9129
28. Mycenaean (1350 BC) (38.25) - I9010
29. Hittite Anatolia (1675 BC) (39.93) - MA2200
30. Neolithic Morocco (3760 BC) (40.07) - KEB1
31. Hellenic Roman / Calabria (670 AD) (40.19) - CL25
32. Hellenic Seleucid Anatolia (165 BC) (40.83) - MA2198
33. Mycenaean (1350 BC) (41.53) - I9006
34. Hellenic Roman (590 AD) (41.74) - SZ40
35. Roman Era Greco Citizen / Lebanon (250 AD) (41.95) - QED-12
36. Medieval Iran (1450 AD) (41.99) - I1955
37. Ostrogoth Crimea (300 AD) (42.42) - Ker1
38. Early Medieval Iberia Granada (515 AD) (42.47) - I3980
39. Mycenaean (1350 BC) (42.64) - I9041
40. Minoan (2000 BC) (42.68) - I0071
41. Hittite Anatolia (1875 BC) (43.19) - MA2206
42. Minoan (2000 BC) (43.45) - I0074
43. Hellenic Roman (670 AD) (43.52) - CL121
44. Copper Age Iran (3800 BC) (43.6) - I1665
45. Minoan (2000 BC) (43.97) - I9005
46. Minoan (2000 BC) (44.25) - I0070
47. Late Roman Iberia Granada (650 AD) (44.84) - I3575
48. Iberomaurusian (10000 BC) (44.9) - TAF010
49. Morisco Andalusia Iberia (1550 AD) (44.93) - I7424
50. Crusader Knight Tuscan / Lebanon (1250 AD) (45.09) - SI-41
51. Central Roman / Mixed (590 AD) (45.23) - SZ19
52. Ottoman (1500 AD) (45.31) - MA2196
53. Roman Iberia Granada (350 AD) (45.76) - I3983
54. Central Roman (590 AD) (45.79) - SZ36
55. Minoan (2000 BC) (45.96) - I9128
56. Copper Age Anatolia (3800 BC) (46.02) - I0184
57. Mycenaean (1350 BC) (46.1) - I9033
58. Minoan (2000 BC) (46.24) - I9131
59. Guanche Canary Islands (630 AD) (46.25) - gun012
60. Iron Age Kurdistan (900 BC) (46.48) - F38

These are my daughter's results.

http://i63.tinypic.com/adkmer.jpg
http://i66.tinypic.com/2m44vb9.jpg
http://i66.tinypic.com/2le2rdy.jpg
http://i67.tinypic.com/vg4fbt.jpg
http://i64.tinypic.com/2j35evq.jpg
http://i63.tinypic.com/312xmr8.jpg

Here are her ancient matches.

(Smaller numbers mean closer matches to you)

1. Bell Beaker England (2150 BC) (5.031) - I1767 (Click for more info)
2. St Marys Coffin Maryland (1683 AD) (5.696) - I2097 (Click for more info)
3. Pict (670 AD) (5.756) - CL83 (Click for more info)
4. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (6.119) - SZ15 (Click for more info)
5. Bronze Age Celt England (1000 BC) (6.127) - I5383 (Click for more info)
6. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (935 AD) (6.271) - GTE-A1 (Click for more info)
7. Nordic-Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) (6.354) - 6DRIF-18 (Click for more info)
8. Nordic Lombard (670 AD) (6.564) - CL92 (Click for more info)
9. Bell Beaker England (2100 BC) (6.747) - I2452 (Click for more info)
10. Celtic Briton (0 AD) (6.753) - Hinxton 4 (Click for more info)
11. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (1000 AD) (6.88) - VDP-A6 (Click for more info)
12. Bronze Age Orkney Islands (1750 BC) (6.886) - I2981 (Click for more info)
13. Bell Beaker Southern France (2050 BC) (7.167) - I3875 (Click for more info)
14. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (935 AD) (7.607) - ORE-A1 (Click for more info)
15. Icelander Late Medieval (1650 AD) (7.699) - KOV-A2 (Click for more info)
16. Alemannic Bavaria (465 AD) (7.818) - NW_255 (Click for more info)
17. Briton Gladiator York (250 AD) (7.891) - 6DRIF-23 (Click for more info)
18. Ireland Copper Age (1880 BC) (7.945) - Rathlin2 (Click for more info)
19. Germano-Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) (7.951) - 6DRIF-3 (Click for more info)
20. Bell Beaker Scotland (2100 BC) (8.117) - I2568 (Click for more info)
21. Bell Beaker Cambridge (2075 BC) (8.164) - I3255 (Click for more info)
22. Late Medieval Gotlander (1600 AD) (8.225) - Unknown (Click for more info)
23. Celtic Briton (70 BC) (8.326) - Hinxton 1 (Click for more info)
24. Czech Velke Prilepy (0 AD) (8.429) - Rise577 (Click for more info)
25. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (935 AD) (8.688) - SSG-A4 (Click for more info)
26. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (8.789) - SZ12 (Click for more info)
27. Nordic Lombard (670 AD) (8.839) - CL146 (Click for more info)
28. Nordic Lombard (670 AD) (8.958) - CL145 (Click for more info)
29. Anglo Saxon (700 AD) (8.994) - Hinxton HS3 (Click for more info)
30. Viking Norse Iceland (935 AD) (8.998) - KNS-A1 (Click for more info)
31. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (9.02) - SZ4 (Click for more info)
32. Viking Sweden (1100 AD) (9.125) - 97029 (Click for more info)
33. Saxon Settler Viking Iceland (935 AD) (9.149) - GRS-A1 (Click for more info)
34. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) (9.158) - SZ23 (Click for more info)
35. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) (9.187) - SZ38 (Click for more info)
36. Viking Norse Iceland (935 AD) (9.194) - SSJ-A2 (Click for more info)
37. Bronze Age Scottish Islands (2350 BC) (9.306) - I5367 (Click for more info)
38. Vandal Chieftain (375 AD) (9.371) - DA119 (Click for more info)
39. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (9.371) - SZ14 (Click for more info)
40. Viking Sweden (1100 AD) (9.394) - stg021 (Click for more info)
41. Alemannic Bavaria (500 AD) (9.504) - ALH_1 (Click for more info)
42. Viking Sweden (1100 AD) (9.57) - Sigtuna stg021 (Click for more info)
43. Visigoth Germanic Girona (550 AD) (9.638) - I12162 (Click for more info)
44. Viking Celtic Mix Sweden (1100 AD) (9.651) - Sigtuna grt035 (Click for more info)
45. Anglo Saxon (700 AD) (9.676) - Hinxton HS1 (Click for more info)
46. Germano-Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) (9.79) - 3DRIF-16 (Click for more info)
47. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (935 AD) (9.849) - FSS-A1 (Click for more info)
48. Alemannic Bavaria (500 AD) (9.858) - ALH_10 (Click for more info)
49. Alemannic Bavaria (500 AD) (9.981) - AED_249 (Click for more info)
50. Colonial American Pennsylvania (1700 AD) (10.0) - Shohola (Click for more info)
51. Bell Beaker Scotland (2145 BC) (10.09) - I5471 (Click for more info)
52. Gaelic Child Viking Iceland (935 AD) (10.25) - YGS-B2 (Click for more info)
53. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (10.27) - SZ9 (Click for more info)
54. Nordic Lombard (670 AD) (10.38) - CL84 (Click for more info)
55. Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) (10.48) - 6DRIF-21 (Click for more info)
56. Bronze Age Hebrides Islands (1350 BC) (10.68) - I2655 (Click for more info)
57. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (10.81) - SZ8 (Click for more info)
58. Viking Norse Iceland (935 AD) (10.83) - DKS-A1 (Click for more info)
59. Bell Beaker Amesbury (2250 BC) (10.88) - I2418 (Click for more info)
60. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (10.91) - SZ22 (Click for more info)

Adding some of my family's deepdive maps because they list the samples so people might be able to work out some of their matches.

http://i63.tinypic.com/11j9o54.jpg

http://i65.tinypic.com/sywffq.jpg

http://i63.tinypic.com/ixump5.jpg

This is my mother's map.

http://i64.tinypic.com/20kagzk.jpg

There is an amazing amount of consistency in the matches from Grandparent to Grandchild. I guess it helps that we are all the same genetically.

Hi guys great little community you have here!
Well I have a big interest in ancestry and geneology and came across mytrueancestry recently and had to check out the summer solstice sale and upgraded to Caesar level, very interesting site, not always correct, my modern admixture is way off apparently I'm Welsh?
I'm about as Welsh as the Dali Llama!
The deep dive levels of cM seem pretty crazy as well, my mum has 46.87cM from one of the Sigtuna Viking samples!? Hello ancient grandpa.
But it is a new site and as we all know DNA research is fluid and ever changing as more samples and information become available.

Anyway this what popped out when I uploaded my data to the site.

Attachment 89225

Attachment 89226

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oops forgot to add my timeline, all in all pretty much what I expected, lots of Germanic and Celt, The Scythian is an oddball, not on the timeline but in my ancient population list, maybe a gaelic Irish/Scot connection?

Attachment 89234

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lol so many newly created socks in this thread:)

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Originally Posted by **JC**

The deep dive levels of cM seem pretty crazy as well, my mum has 46.87cM from one of the Sigtuna Viking samples!? Hello ancient grandpa.

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It's pretty insane, I wonder how accurate that is. I apparently share 107 cM with the "Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland", which could make him/her my second cousin - seems way too high for someone who lived almost 1000 years ago.

Upgraded to footman

1. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (935 AD) (6.539) (Click for more info)
2. Bronze Age Jutland Denmark (1400 BC) (6.84) (Click for more info)
3. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (935 AD) (6.88) (Click for more info)
4. Bell Beaker England (2150 BC) (7.206) (Click for more info)
5. Bronze Age Hebrides Islands (1350 BC) (8.106) (Click for more info)
6. Czech Velke Prilepy (0 AD) (8.193) (Click for more info)
7. St Marys Coffin Maryland (1683 AD) (9.096) (Click for more info)
8. Briton Gladiator York (250 AD) (9.183) (Click for more info)
9. Germano-Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) (9.209) (Click for more info)
10. Celtic Briton (0 AD) (9.656) (Click for more info)
11. Bell Beaker Amesbury (2250 BC) (10.01) (Click for more info)
12. Gaulic Gladiator York (250 AD) (10.06) (Click for more info)
13. Bell Beaker Southern France (2120 BC) (10.09) (Click for more info)
14. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) (10.13) (Click for more info)
15. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (935 AD) (10.34) (Click for more info)
16. Saxon Settler Viking Iceland (935 AD) (10.79) (Click for more info)
17. Bell Beaker Amesbury (2250 BC) (10.85) (Click for more info)
18. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (1000 AD) (10.91) (Click for more info)
19. Bronze Age Orkney Islands (1750 BC) (11.0) (Click for more info)
20. Germano-Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) (11.09) (Click for more info)

(looks like every single gedmatch calculator for me xD)

1. Southeast_English (8.585)
2. Irish (9.205)
3. Southwest_English (9.236)
4. West_Scottish (9.902)
5. South_Dutch (10.83)
6. Orcadian (11.88)
7. North_German (11.92)
8. Danish (12.30)


Viking Icelandic + Gaul (5.178)
Viking Icelandic + Frank (5.463)
Viking Icelandic (6.539)
Gaul (10.06)
Frank (10.13)

There is more than certainly a glitch in the part of their algorithm that calculates share segments distance, it's pretty obvious, hope it gets resolved asap and I am surprise they didn't realize it yet.

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Originally Posted by farke1

It's pretty insane, I wonder how accurate that is. I apparently share 107 cM with the "Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland", which could make him/her my second cousin - seems way too high for someone who lived almost 1000 years ago.

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You should get your G25 done. It's very reasonable and well worth it because you can then get loads of models done on yourself. You can compare yourself to moderns and ancients. You can get it from Davidski at Eurogenes.

These are my closest results going to 250 samples using moderns and ancients. I've only removed a few custom users.

1 England_Saxon I0159 Ancient; CE:703 1.81
2 Irish_Averaged Averaged 1.876
3 Icelandic_Averaged Averaged 1.914
4 England_Saxon_Averaged Averaged 1.93
5 Scottish_Averaged Averaged 1.964
6 Welsh_Averaged Averaged 1.977
7 Orcadian_Averaged Averaged 1.98
8 Icelandic NA15765 Modern; 2.081
9 English_Cornwall HG00243 Modern; 2.084
10 England_Roman_Averaged Averaged 2.146
12 Bell_Beaker_Mittelelbe-Saale_Averaged Averaged 2.191
13 English_Averaged Averaged 2.206
14 HUN_MA_Szolad SZ7 Ancient; CE:505 2.211
15 Orcadian HGDP00803 Modern; 2.225
16 Irish Irish44 Modern; 2.233
17 England_MBA_Averaged Averaged 2.237
18 Irish Irish50 Modern; 2.239
19 Irish Irish51 Modern; 2.246
20 Welsh WAL001 Modern; 2.248
21 Orcadian HGDP00797 Modern; 2.255
23 Norwegian_Averaged Averaged 2.336
24 Welsh WAL004 Modern; 2.34
25 England_Saxon NO3423 Ancient; CE:780 2.356
26 French_Brittany_Averaged Averaged 2.359
27 Scotland_LBA_Averaged Averaged 2.362
28 Scottish Scottish15 Modern; 2.364
29 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna vik_grt035 2.366
30 English_Cornwall HG00160 Modern; 2.375
31 Orcadian HGDP00799 Modern; 2.379
32 HUN_MA_Szolad SZ16 Ancient; CE:505 2.384
33 Orcadian HGDP00804 Modern; 2.42
34 England_IA I0156 Ancient; BCE:45 2.423
35 Icelandic NA15759 Modern; 2.425
36 Icelandic NA15766 Modern; 2.44
37 English_Cornwall_Averaged Averaged 2.454
38 Dutch_Averaged Averaged 2.459
39 Irish Irish54 Modern; 2.473
40 Irish Irish2 Modern; 2.478
41 Scottish Scottish12 Modern; 2.481
42 ITA_Collegno_MA CL84 Ancient; CE:671 2.492
43 Shetlandic_Averaged Averaged 2.494
44 Scottish Scottish18 Modern; 2.511
45 Scottish Scottish9 Modern; 2.511
46 Scottish Scottish24 Modern; 2.526
49 English_Cornwall HG00259 Modern; 2.528
50 ITA_Collegno_MA CL146 Ancient; CE:671 2.532
51 Irish Irish57 Modern; 2.533
53 England_IA_Averaged Averaged 2.553
54 French_Brittany French24090 2.565
58 ITA_Collegno_MA CL93 Ancient; CE:671 2.593
59 Irish Irish53 Modern; 2.594
60 England_Saxon I0157 Ancient; CE:718 2.616
62 Scotland_MBA I2655 Ancient; BCE:1356 2.654
63 Swedish_Averaged Averaged 2.659
64 Scottish Scottish27 Modern; 2.667
65 Welsh WAL003 Modern; 2.673
67 HUN_MA_Szolad SZ12 Ancient; CE:505 2.693
68 England_CA_EBA_Averaged Averaged 2.719
69 Swedish Sweden4 Modern; 2.72
70 Scottish Scottish6 Modern; 2.722
71 Scotland_LBA I2860 Ancient; BCE:892 2.726
72 Icelandic NA15764 Modern; 2.729
73 Irish Irish60 Modern; 2.731
74 Irish Irish39 Modern; 2.731
75 English England11 Modern; 2.743
76 Scottish Scottish1 Modern; 2.745
77 Swedish Sweden9 Modern; 2.748
79 Irish Irish61 Modern; 2.762
80 Irish Irish55 Modern; 2.767
81 Shetlandic Shetlands2 Modern; 2.768
82 Norwegian NOR152 Modern; 2.77
83 Icelandic NA15758 Modern; 2.777
84 HUN_MA_Szolad SZ9 Ancient; CE:505 2.785
85 French_Brittany French23989 2.789
86 French_Brittany French23833 2.791
87 England_MBA I2458 Ancient; BCE:1389 2.795
88 French_Brittany French24400 2.796
89 Irish Irish56 Modern; 2.798
90 Scotland_MBA_Averaged Averaged 2.798
91 Irish Irish5 Modern; 2.818
92 French_Brittany French24247 2.82
93 Irish Irish41 Modern; 2.839
94 Norwegian NOR108 Modern; 2.84
95 Bell_Beaker_POL I6583 Ancient; BCE:2169 2.84
96 Scotland_LBA I2859 Ancient; BCE:859 2.841
97 Scottish Scottish22 Modern; 2.859
98 Orcadian HGDP00800 Modern; 2.869
99 Irish Irish62 Modern; 2.872
100 English England12 Modern; 2.886
101 Swedish Sweden7 Modern; 2.894
102 HUN_MA_Szolad SZ11 Ancient; CE:505 2.903
103 English English5 Modern; 2.904
104 English_Cornwall HG00255 Modern; 2.906
105 English English2 Modern; 2.915
106 Irish Irish37 Modern; 2.921
107 HUN_MA_Szolad SZ13 Ancient; CE:505 2.921
108 England_MBA I7572 Ancient; BCE:1406 2.922
109 Scottish Scottish21 Modern; 2.925
110 Scottish Scottish2 Modern; 2.926
111 Swedish Sweden1 Modern; 2.928
112 Scotland_MBA I2653 Ancient; BCE:1400 2.936
114 English_Cornwall HG00264 Modern; 2.946
117 Irish Irish64 Modern; 2.958
118 England_Roman 6DT23 Ancient; CE:200 2.964
119 Scottish Scottish17 Modern; 2.973
120 Scottish Scottish13 Modern; 2.983
121 DEU_BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN I0059 Ancient; BCE:2200 2.987
123 England_MBA I7577 Ancient; BCE:1254 3
124 Dutch Netherlands11 Modern; 3.001
125 England_Saxon I0769 Ancient; CE:495 3.001
126 ITA_Collegno_MA CL83 Ancient; CE:671 3.006
128 England_MBA I7568 Ancient; BCE:1425 3.019
129 England_Saxon I0777 Ancient; CE:472 3.023
130 Orcadian HGDP00805 Modern; 3.025
131 IRL_BA_Averaged Averaged 3.031
132 Swedish Sweden10 Modern; 3.037
133 Icelandic NA15763 Modern; 3.038
134 England_Saxon I0774 Ancient; CE:467 3.04
135 English England13 Modern; 3.048
136 English HG01791 Modern; 3.049
137 DEU_MA_Averaged Averaged 3.049
138 Irish Irish52 Modern; 3.058
139 Irish Irish59 Modern; 3.065
140 Irish Irish48 Modern; 3.072
141 English_Cornwall HG00232 Modern; 3.072
142 Scottish Scottish5 Modern; 3.073
143 England_Saxon I0161 Ancient; CE:785 3.076
144 Swedish Sweden16 Modern; 3.076
145 Scottish Scottish19 Modern; 3.08
147 English_Cornwall HG00249 Modern; 3.087
148 German German34 Modern; 3.089
149 Bell_Beaker_England I5379 Ancient; BCE:2382 3.096
150 English English6 Modern; 3.112
151 English England8 Modern; 3.116
152 Scottish Scottish8 Modern; 3.125
153 CZE_Unetice_EBA_Averaged Averaged 3.13
154 Wales_CA_EBA_Averaged Averaged 3.131
155 Wales_CA_EBA I1775 Ancient; BCE:1631 3.131
156 England_MBA I7627 Ancient; BCE:1316 3.14
157 England_Roman 6DT22 Ancient; CE:200 3.145
158 English English4 Modern; 3.147
159 English HG02215 Modern; 3.158
160 Scottish Scottish26 Modern; 3.162
161 Bell_Beaker_POL_Averaged Averaged 3.167
162 Bell_Beaker_England I3256 Ancient; BCE:2075 3.167
163 England_Roman 6DT21 Ancient; CE:200 3.168
164 Bell_Beaker_NLD I5750 Ancient; BCE:2100 3.168
165 Bell_Beaker_CZE I5514 Ancient; BCE:2250 3.169
166 Irish Irish42 Modern; 3.171
167 Norwegian NOR101 Modern; 3.182
168 HUN_MA_Szolad SZ22 Ancient; CE:505 3.183
169 Irish Irish12 Modern; 3.183
170 Irish Irish47 Modern; 3.187
171 English England15 Modern; 3.19
172 Irish Irish25 Modern; 3.191
173 Bell_Beaker_England_Averaged Averaged 3.192
174 Icelandic NA15757 Modern; 3.195
175 German German46 Modern; 3.197
176 Irish Irish21 Modern; 3.198
177 England_Saxon I0773 Ancient; CE:460 3.199
178 Orcadian HGDP00798 Modern; 3.2
179 Scottish Scottish25 Modern; 3.203
180 Irish Irish19 Modern; 3.208
181 Bell_Beaker_CZE I4895 Ancient; BCE:2160 3.209
182 Irish Irish31 Modern; 3.216
183 Scottish Scottish7 Modern; 3.218
184 Icelandic NA15756 Modern; 3.219
185 England_MBA I7570 Ancient; BCE:1633 3.224
186 Dutch Netherlands21 Modern; 3.229
187 England_MBA I7626 Ancient; BCE:1262 3.231
188 Bell_Beaker_CZE_Averaged Averaged 3.233
189 England_CA_EBA I5377 Ancient; BCE:1794 3.242
190 Swedish Sweden5 Modern; 3.248
191 French French41 Modern; 3.251
192 Irish Irish65 Modern; 3.253
193 Dutch Netherlands63 Modern; 3.255
194 Dutch Netherlands44 Modern; 3.257
195 Swedish Sweden20 Modern; 3.257
196 Icelandic NA15760 Modern; 3.258
197 Scottish Scottish16 Modern; 3.262
198 Scottish Scottish14 Modern; 3.262
199 Irish Irish58 Modern; 3.264
200 NLD_BA_Averaged Averaged 3.271
201 Scotland_LBA I2861 Ancient; BCE:900 3.272
202 England_Roman 6DT3 Ancient; CE:200 3.273
203 Swedish Sweden3 Modern; 3.273
204 Bell_Beaker_CZE I7249 Ancient; BCE:2250 3.274
205 HUN_MA_Szolad SZ4 Ancient; CE:505 3.275
206 England_MBA I7576 Ancient; BCE:1104 3.284
207 Shetlandic Shetlands3 Modern; 3.286
208 German German24 Modern; 3.287
209 Irish Irish46 Modern; 3.288
210 Dutch Netherlands36 Modern; 3.292
211 ITA_Collegno_MA CL92 Ancient; CE:671 3.293
213 Norwegian NOR109 Modern; 3.299
214 England_Roman 6DT18 Ancient; CE:200 3.309
215 Norwegian NOR107 Modern; 3.31
216 England_MBA I7571 Ancient; BCE:1353 3.318
217 Icelandic NA15755 Modern; 3.319
218 Irish Irish63 Modern; 3.323
219 Irish Irish43 Modern; 3.326
220 Scotland_CA_EBA_Averaged Averaged 3.329
221 German_Averaged Averaged 3.333
222 NLD_BA I4070 Ancient; BCE:1768 3.342
223 England_MBA I7574 Ancient; BCE:1318 3.345
224 Irish Irish33 Modern; 3.346
225 England_IA I0160 Ancient; BCE:45 3.347
226 English_Cornwall HG00236 Modern; 3.349
227 England_MBA I7573 Ancient; BCE:1574 3.349
228 HUN_MA_Szolad SZ42 Ancient; CE:505 3.356
229 English HG01789 Modern; 3.361
230 Irish Irish32 Modern; 3.363
231 Shetlandic Shetlands1 Modern; 3.364
232 Bell_Beaker_Mittelelbe-Saale I0805 Ancient; BCE:2250 3.366
233 Scotland_MBA I2573 Ancient; BCE:1400 3.368
234 Scottish Scottish3 Modern; 3.371
235 Irish Irish34 Modern; 3.378
236 Bell_Beaker_CZE I7212 Ancient; BCE:2350 3.378
237 Bell_Beaker_Bavaria I5521 Ancient; BCE:2250 3.383
238 Bell_Beaker_Mittelelbe-Saale I0112 Ancient; BCE:2250 3.386
239 DEU_Halberstadt_LBA_Averaged Averaged 3.387
240 DEU_Halberstadt_LBA I0099 Ancient; BCE:1067 3.387
241 DEU_Unetice_EBA_Averaged Averaged 3.395
242 Dutch Netherlands7 Modern; 3.402
243 Irish Irish3 Modern; 3.407
244 Irish Irish10 Modern; 3.411
245 ITA_Collegno_MA CL151 Ancient; CE:671 3.413
246 Bell_Beaker_CZE I7269 Ancient; BCE:2250 3.413
247 Orcadian HGDP00796 Modern; 3.423
248 DEU_Unetice_EBA I0117 Ancient; BCE:2155 3.423
249 Orcadian HGDP00802 Modern; 3.446
250 Icelandic NA15762 Modern; 3.452

The great thing about the G25 is that it is updated as new samples become available. I've noticed now that Brittany has been added to this. I've put the modern populations I'm closest to in blue.

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Originally Posted by Western_French

There is more than certainly a glitch in the part of their algorithm that calculates share segments distance, it's pretty obvious, hope it gets resolved asap and I am surprise they didn't realize it yet.

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The more I read about it , from people here more knowledgeable than I am, the more I doubt the largest segment/total cMs for my deep dive matches . This for example is highly suspect.

Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland
935 AD
SSG-A4
Total cM=111.0
Largest segment=56.38 cM (5 shared. Sample quality: 95)

I wonder,might be paranoia I admit, whether the inflated total cMs/largest segment is done deliberately. The idea being that people will tell other people "I got some great results with this"

My 250 with custom users left out.

1 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Orcadian_Averaged Averaged 1.447
2 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Scottish_Averaged Averaged 1.614
3 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey English HG01789 Modern; 1.778
4 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish_Averaged Averaged 1.816
5 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Orcadian HGDP00800 Modern; 1.941
6 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey English_Averaged Averaged 1.945
7 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Orcadian HGDP00799 Modern; 1.972
8 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey English HG02215 Modern; 1.975
9 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Scotland_LBA_Averaged Averaged 2.008
10 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey English_Cornwall_Averaged Averaged 2.031
11 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey England_Roman_Averaged Averaged 2.05
12 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Scottish Scottish21 Modern; 2.055
13 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Icelandic_Averaged Averaged 2.059
15 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Orcadian HGDP00797 Modern; 2.112
16 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Norwegian NOR101 Modern; 2.116
17 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Scottish Scottish1 Modern; 2.126
18 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Icelandic NA15756 Modern; 2.141
19 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Scottish Scottish26 Modern; 2.175
21 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Scottish Scottish22 Modern; 2.181
22 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Orcadian HGDP00796 Modern; 2.182
23 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Dutch_Averaged Averaged 2.199
24 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish39 Modern; 2.203
25 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Orcadian HGDP00803 Modern; 2.204
27 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey French_Brittany_Averaged Averaged 2.265

29 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Scottish Scottish19 Modern; 2.308
30 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey English_Cornwall HG00160 Modern; 2.31
31 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Orcadian HGDP00798 Modern; 2.314
33 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Shetlandic_Averaged Averaged 2.354
34 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Norwegian NOR107 Modern; 2.358
35 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey DEU_MA_Averaged Averaged 2.36
36 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Scottish Scottish8 Modern; 2.383
37 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey English_Cornwall HG00259 Modern; 2.396
38 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey England_Saxon I0159 Ancient; CE:703 2.4
39 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish52 Modern; 2.407
40 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey England_Saxon NO3423 Ancient; CE:780 2.409
42 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Welsh_Averaged Averaged 2.412
43 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey England_MBA_Averaged Averaged 2.415
44 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Welsh WAL004 Modern; 2.416
45 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Icelandic NA15758 Modern; 2.418
46 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey English_Cornwall HG00243 Modern; 2.428
47 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Custom AGUser_Timberwolf 2.43
48 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey ITA_Collegno_MA CL84 Ancient; CE:671 2.445
49 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Norwegian_Averaged Averaged 2.461
51 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Scottish Scottish12 Modern; 2.477
52 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Scottish Scottish24 Modern; 2.489
53 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey England_MBA I7627 Ancient; BCE:1316 2.49
55 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Scotland_LBA I2860 Ancient; BCE:892 2.514
56 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey England_MBA I7572 Ancient; BCE:1406 2.515
57 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey English English5 Modern; 2.52
58 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish56 Modern; 2.526
59 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey French_Brittany French24247 2.529
61 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey English English2 Modern; 2.54
62 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish41 Modern; 2.542
63 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish34 Modern; 2.552
64 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Scottish Scottish9 Modern; 2.564
65 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Scottish Scottish27 Modern; 2.566
66 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Orcadian HGDP00804 Modern; 2.569
67 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey England_Saxon_Averaged Averaged 2.573
68 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish51 Modern; 2.577
69 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey English_Cornwall HG00264 Modern; 2.585
71 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey English England13 Modern; 2.587
72 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Norwegian NOR108 Modern; 2.589
73 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Icelandic NA15757 Modern; 2.59
74 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Scottish Scottish10 Modern; 2.596
75 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish44 Modern; 2.616
76 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey English_Cornwall HG00252 Modern; 2.62
77 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish58 Modern; 2.626
78 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna vik_grt035 2.638
79 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Bell_Beaker_Mittelelbe-Saale_Averaged Averaged 2.638
80 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish37 Modern; 2.66
81 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Scotland_MBA I2655 Ancient; BCE:1356 2.663
82 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey English England7 Modern; 2.67
83 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish19 Modern; 2.672
84 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish57 Modern; 2.676
85 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish59 Modern; 2.693
86 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey ITA_Collegno_MA CL83 Ancient; CE:671 2.693
87 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey French_Brittany French24400 2.699
88 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey England_MBA I7578 Ancient; BCE:1119 2.702
89 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Scottish Scottish17 Modern; 2.722
90 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey ITA_Collegno_MA CL146 Ancient; CE:671 2.723
91 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Scottish Scottish25 Modern; 2.725
92 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Swedish Sweden3 Modern; 2.73
93 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey English_Cornwall HG00235 Modern; 2.733
94 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Welsh WAL001 Modern; 2.748
95 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey HUN_MA_Szolad SZ4 Ancient; CE:505 2.748
97 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey England_MBA I7573 Ancient; BCE:1574 2.757
98 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Swedish_Averaged Averaged 2.764
99 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey English_Cornwall HG00239 Modern; 2.767
100 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish3 Modern; 2.771
101 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Orcadian HGDP00794 Modern; 2.777
102 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey England_Saxon I0774 Ancient; CE:467 2.778
103 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey English English6 Modern; 2.783
104 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish55 Modern; 2.788
105 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey England_IA I0160 Ancient; BCE:45 2.79
106 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish54 Modern; 2.797
107 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Shetlandic Shetlands3 Modern; 2.809
108 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Icelandic NA15766 Modern; 2.812
109 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Scottish Scottish13 Modern; 2.813
110 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish50 Modern; 2.814
111 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey England_Roman 6DT23 Ancient; CE:200 2.818
112 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Scottish Scottish7 Modern; 2.821
113 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Scotland_LBA I2861 Ancient; BCE:900 2.83
114 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish63 Modern; 2.831
115 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey English_Cornwall HG00261 Modern; 2.847
116 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Scottish Scottish18 Modern; 2.847
117 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Bell_Beaker_POL I6583 Ancient; BCE:2169 2.85
118 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Swedish Sweden9 Modern; 2.857
119 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey French_Brittany French23833 2.863
120 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Swedish Sweden4 Modern; 2.87
121 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey English_Cornwall HG00255 Modern; 2.873
122 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish10 Modern; 2.877
123 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey DEU_MA ALH_10 Ancient; CE:495 2.878
126 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey English English1 Modern; 2.885
127 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish64 Modern; 2.895
128 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish13 Modern; 2.895
129 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Icelandic NA15764 Modern; 2.897
130 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish28 Modern; 2.9
131 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey English_Cornwall HG00253 Modern; 2.904
132 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey French_Brittany French24120 2.91
133 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish53 Modern; 2.916
134 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey English English3 Modern; 2.918
135 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Icelandic NA15765 Modern; 2.931
136 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey English_Cornwall HG00232 Modern; 2.933
137 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey England_EMBA I2639 Ancient; BCE:1515 2.933
138 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey England_EMBA_Averaged Averaged 2.933
139 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish33 Modern; 2.94
140 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Swedish Sweden6 Modern; 2.942
141 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Scottish Scottish2 Modern; 2.943
142 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish42 Modern; 2.945
143 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey England_IA_Averaged Averaged 2.949
144 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Scottish Scottish11 Modern; 2.963
145 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish45 Modern; 2.964
146 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey ITA_Collegno_MA CL92 Ancient; CE:671 2.964
147 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey England_Roman 6DT3 Ancient; CE:200 2.966
148 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish60 Modern; 2.969
149 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna vik_stg021 2.977
151 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish21 Modern; 2.987
152 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey CZE_EBA I7196 Ancient; BCE:1950 2.987
153 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey German German78 Modern; 2.987
154 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Dutch Netherlands23 Modern; 2.995
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158 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey England_MBA I7571 Ancient; BCE:1353 3.015
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163 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish27 Modern; 3.058
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166 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey German German68 Modern; 3.068
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169 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Wales_CA_EBA_Averaged Averaged 3.075
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171 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Scottish Scottish14 Modern; 3.077
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173 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Scotland_MBA I2653 Ancient; BCE:1400 3.086
174 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish47 Modern; 3.092
175 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Dutch Netherlands21 Modern; 3.093
176 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish22 Modern; 3.099
177 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey England_Roman 3DT16 Ancient; CE:200 3.1
178 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish65 Modern; 3.1
179 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Shetlandic Shetlands2 Modern; 3.102
180 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Scottish Scottish20 Modern; 3.104
182 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish49 Modern; 3.117
183 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey French_Brittany French23989 3.119
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185 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Scotland_MBA_Averaged Averaged 3.127
186 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey DEU_BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN I0059 Ancient; BCE:2200 3.133
187 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey French_Brittany French24090 3.135
188 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Dutch Netherlands10 Modern; 3.14
189 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Dutch Netherlands40 Modern; 3.143
190 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey English England11 Modern; 3.147
191 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Scottish Scottish23 Modern; 3.159
192 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey England_Saxon I0161 Ancient; CE:785 3.164
193 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Welsh WAL003 Modern; 3.166
194 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Scottish Scottish6 Modern; 3.178
195 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey DEU_Unetice_EBA I0117 Ancient; BCE:2155 3.183
196 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey HUN_MA_Szolad SZ38 Ancient; CE:505 3.191
197 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Dutch Netherlands11 Modern; 3.194
198 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Dutch Netherlands7 Modern; 3.194
199 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Shetlandic Shetlands1 Modern; 3.199
200 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey English England14 Modern; 3.201
201 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey HUN_MA_Szolad SZ7 Ancient; CE:505 3.204
202 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey English_Cornwall HG00236 Modern; 3.206
203 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey English HG01790 Modern; 3.211
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205 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Bell_Beaker_England I5512 Ancient; BCE:2150 3.214
206 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey SWE_IA_Averaged Averaged 3.219
207 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey SWE_IA RISE174 Ancient; CE:519 3.219
208 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Scotland_CA_EBA I2981 Ancient; BCE:1723 3.221
209 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Bell_Beaker_FRA_C_Averaged Averaged 3.224
210 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish15 Modern; 3.226
211 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey England_Roman 6DT18 Ancient; CE:200 3.227
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213 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey DEU_MA ALH_1 Ancient; CE:495 3.237
214 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Dutch Netherlands14 Modern; 3.243
215 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish25 Modern; 3.25
216 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey English HG01791 Modern; 3.251
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220 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey German_Averaged Averaged 3.264
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222 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish61 Modern; 3.269
223 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Icelandic NA15759 Modern; 3.282
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226 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Bell_Beaker_England I5379 Ancient; BCE:2382 3.295
227 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey English English4 Modern; 3.298
228 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey IRL_BA_Averaged Averaged 3.299
229 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish46 Modern; 3.302
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234 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey England_CA_EBA I6680 Ancient; BCE:1750 3.325
236 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Swedish Sweden7 Modern; 3.337
237 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Icelandic NA15761 Modern; 3.355
240 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey CZE_Unetice_EBA_Averaged Averaged 3.374
241 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish23 Modern; 3.377
242 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish48 Modern; 3.379
243 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey French French57 Modern; 3.384
244 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Dutch Netherlands47 Modern; 3.386
245 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Bell_Beaker_CZE I4888 Ancient; BCE:2109 3.392
246 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Bell_Beaker_CZE I7269 Ancient; BCE:2250 3.397
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248 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Bell_Beaker_Mittelelbe-Saale I0112 Ancient; BCE:2250 3.405
249 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey England_CA_EBA I2566 Ancient; BCE:2119 3.419
250 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey HUN_MA_Szolad SZ12 Ancient; CE:505 3.42

Although I don't have deep dive, the one it shows me for free is across every chromosome besides the two sex chromosomes. Does anyone else have this seemingly much CM's in common with samples?

https://i.imgur.com/XOOdKuM.jpg

Why are serbs so much related to romania and moldavia in gedmatch and this!

I am pretty newbie with all this personally but could be that a lot of the DNA of these old samples damaged significantly with time, hence the results not being very accurate, but all together it still gives a broad idea I think. For example I wouldn't rely too much on a DNA comparison with a 40000 years old Neanderthal specimen, that's way too old, but I would look at the comparison with a mediieval sample more seriously.

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Originally Posted by firemonkey

The more I read about it , from people here more knowledgeable than I am, the more I doubt the largest segment/total cMs for my deep dive matches . This for example is highly suspect.

Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland
935 AD
SSG-A4
Total cM=111.0
Largest segment=56.38 cM (5 shared. Sample quality: 95)

I wonder,might be paranoia I admit, whether the inflated total cMs/largest segment is done deliberately. The idea being that people will tell other people "I got some great results with this"

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I would more think of a bug in their system when calculating the size of shared segments, they are still at the experimental stage you can see the way their website is improving constantly, there is no reason for them to give wrong results, because in the long term people would always find out and move away from them.

@PaleoEuropean
Congrats you're the direct descendant of this 1400BC individual!
These cM results are so way off it's not funny.
One of the Sigtuna "Vikings" 1100AD. That term bugs me and I will get to that later, is my mothers 4th cousin according to her results at almost 50 cM
If she is this individuals "4th Cousin" then why don't I have a match to the same DNA sample with my results?
Very funky stuff.

Getting back to the "Viking" thing this site is using, Viking is not an ethnicity is an occupation, it's what the Norse did.
Norsemen or Norse would be a more appropriate term to use.

I'll be sticking to Gedmatch and the calculators there for the time being, and checking out my"not quite so true"ancestry for a bit of a fun diversion and taking it all in with a grain of salt, there are certainly a number of things that do make sense.
I've found a paper trail of records with a connection to the 1650 Coffin DNA sample on my mothers side through a material line, but that deep dive? hmmmmmm.