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    1. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (935 AD) (6.539) (Click for more info)
    2. Bronze Age Jutland Denmark (1400 BC) (6.84) (Click for more info)
    3. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (935 AD) (6.88) (Click for more info)
    4. Bell Beaker England (2150 BC) (7.206) (Click for more info)
    5. Bronze Age Hebrides Islands (1350 BC) (8.106) (Click for more info)
    6. Czech Velke Prilepy (0 AD) (8.193) (Click for more info)
    7. St Marys Coffin Maryland (1683 AD) (9.096) (Click for more info)
    8. Briton Gladiator York (250 AD) (9.183) (Click for more info)
    9. Germano-Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) (9.209) (Click for more info)
    10. Celtic Briton (0 AD) (9.656) (Click for more info)
    11. Bell Beaker Amesbury (2250 BC) (10.01) (Click for more info)
    12. Gaulic Gladiator York (250 AD) (10.06) (Click for more info)
    13. Bell Beaker Southern France (2120 BC) (10.09) (Click for more info)
    14. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) (10.13) (Click for more info)
    15. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (935 AD) (10.34) (Click for more info)
    16. Saxon Settler Viking Iceland (935 AD) (10.79) (Click for more info)
    17. Bell Beaker Amesbury (2250 BC) (10.85) (Click for more info)
    18. Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland (1000 AD) (10.91) (Click for more info)
    19. Bronze Age Orkney Islands (1750 BC) (11.0) (Click for more info)
    20. Germano-Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) (11.09) (Click for more info)

    (looks like every single gedmatch calculator for me )

    1. Southeast_English (8.585)
    2. Irish (9.205)
    3. Southwest_English (9.236)
    4. West_Scottish (9.902)
    5. South_Dutch (10.83)
    6. Orcadian (11.88)
    7. North_German (11.92)
    8. Danish (12.30)


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    There is more than certainly a glitch in the part of their algorithm that calculates share segments distance, it's pretty obvious, hope it gets resolved asap and I am surprise they didn't realize it yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by farke1 View Post
    It's pretty insane, I wonder how accurate that is. I apparently share 107 cM with the "Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland", which could make him/her my second cousin - seems way too high for someone who lived almost 1000 years ago.
    You should get your G25 done. It's very reasonable and well worth it because you can then get loads of models done on yourself. You can compare yourself to moderns and ancients. You can get it from Davidski at Eurogenes.

    These are my closest results going to 250 samples using moderns and ancients. I've only removed a few custom users.

    1 England_Saxon I0159 Ancient; CE:703 1.81
    2 Irish_Averaged Averaged 1.876
    3 Icelandic_Averaged Averaged 1.914

    4 England_Saxon_Averaged Averaged 1.93
    5 Scottish_Averaged Averaged 1.964
    6 Welsh_Averaged Averaged 1.977
    7 Orcadian_Averaged Averaged 1.98

    8 Icelandic NA15765 Modern; 2.081
    9 English_Cornwall HG00243 Modern; 2.084
    10 England_Roman_Averaged Averaged 2.146
    12 Bell_Beaker_Mittelelbe-Saale_Averaged Averaged 2.191
    13 English_Averaged Averaged 2.206
    14 HUN_MA_Szolad SZ7 Ancient; CE:505 2.211
    15 Orcadian HGDP00803 Modern; 2.225
    16 Irish Irish44 Modern; 2.233
    17 England_MBA_Averaged Averaged 2.237
    18 Irish Irish50 Modern; 2.239
    19 Irish Irish51 Modern; 2.246
    20 Welsh WAL001 Modern; 2.248
    21 Orcadian HGDP00797 Modern; 2.255
    23 Norwegian_Averaged Averaged 2.336
    24 Welsh WAL004 Modern; 2.34
    25 England_Saxon NO3423 Ancient; CE:780 2.356
    26 French_Brittany_Averaged Averaged 2.359
    27 Scotland_LBA_Averaged Averaged 2.362
    28 Scottish Scottish15 Modern; 2.364
    29 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna vik_grt035 2.366
    30 English_Cornwall HG00160 Modern; 2.375
    31 Orcadian HGDP00799 Modern; 2.379
    32 HUN_MA_Szolad SZ16 Ancient; CE:505 2.384
    33 Orcadian HGDP00804 Modern; 2.42
    34 England_IA I0156 Ancient; BCE:45 2.423
    35 Icelandic NA15759 Modern; 2.425
    36 Icelandic NA15766 Modern; 2.44
    37 English_Cornwall_Averaged Averaged 2.454
    38 Dutch_Averaged Averaged 2.459
    39 Irish Irish54 Modern; 2.473
    40 Irish Irish2 Modern; 2.478
    41 Scottish Scottish12 Modern; 2.481
    42 ITA_Collegno_MA CL84 Ancient; CE:671 2.492
    43 Shetlandic_Averaged Averaged 2.494
    44 Scottish Scottish18 Modern; 2.511
    45 Scottish Scottish9 Modern; 2.511
    46 Scottish Scottish24 Modern; 2.526
    49 English_Cornwall HG00259 Modern; 2.528
    50 ITA_Collegno_MA CL146 Ancient; CE:671 2.532
    51 Irish Irish57 Modern; 2.533
    53 England_IA_Averaged Averaged 2.553
    54 French_Brittany French24090 2.565
    58 ITA_Collegno_MA CL93 Ancient; CE:671 2.593
    59 Irish Irish53 Modern; 2.594
    60 England_Saxon I0157 Ancient; CE:718 2.616
    62 Scotland_MBA I2655 Ancient; BCE:1356 2.654
    63 Swedish_Averaged Averaged 2.659
    64 Scottish Scottish27 Modern; 2.667
    65 Welsh WAL003 Modern; 2.673
    67 HUN_MA_Szolad SZ12 Ancient; CE:505 2.693
    68 England_CA_EBA_Averaged Averaged 2.719
    69 Swedish Sweden4 Modern; 2.72
    70 Scottish Scottish6 Modern; 2.722
    71 Scotland_LBA I2860 Ancient; BCE:892 2.726
    72 Icelandic NA15764 Modern; 2.729
    73 Irish Irish60 Modern; 2.731
    74 Irish Irish39 Modern; 2.731
    75 English England11 Modern; 2.743
    76 Scottish Scottish1 Modern; 2.745
    77 Swedish Sweden9 Modern; 2.748
    79 Irish Irish61 Modern; 2.762
    80 Irish Irish55 Modern; 2.767
    81 Shetlandic Shetlands2 Modern; 2.768
    82 Norwegian NOR152 Modern; 2.77
    83 Icelandic NA15758 Modern; 2.777
    84 HUN_MA_Szolad SZ9 Ancient; CE:505 2.785
    85 French_Brittany French23989 2.789
    86 French_Brittany French23833 2.791
    87 England_MBA I2458 Ancient; BCE:1389 2.795
    88 French_Brittany French24400 2.796
    89 Irish Irish56 Modern; 2.798
    90 Scotland_MBA_Averaged Averaged 2.798
    91 Irish Irish5 Modern; 2.818
    92 French_Brittany French24247 2.82
    93 Irish Irish41 Modern; 2.839
    94 Norwegian NOR108 Modern; 2.84
    95 Bell_Beaker_POL I6583 Ancient; BCE:2169 2.84
    96 Scotland_LBA I2859 Ancient; BCE:859 2.841
    97 Scottish Scottish22 Modern; 2.859
    98 Orcadian HGDP00800 Modern; 2.869
    99 Irish Irish62 Modern; 2.872
    100 English England12 Modern; 2.886
    101 Swedish Sweden7 Modern; 2.894
    102 HUN_MA_Szolad SZ11 Ancient; CE:505 2.903
    103 English English5 Modern; 2.904
    104 English_Cornwall HG00255 Modern; 2.906
    105 English English2 Modern; 2.915
    106 Irish Irish37 Modern; 2.921
    107 HUN_MA_Szolad SZ13 Ancient; CE:505 2.921
    108 England_MBA I7572 Ancient; BCE:1406 2.922
    109 Scottish Scottish21 Modern; 2.925
    110 Scottish Scottish2 Modern; 2.926
    111 Swedish Sweden1 Modern; 2.928
    112 Scotland_MBA I2653 Ancient; BCE:1400 2.936
    114 English_Cornwall HG00264 Modern; 2.946
    117 Irish Irish64 Modern; 2.958
    118 England_Roman 6DT23 Ancient; CE:200 2.964
    119 Scottish Scottish17 Modern; 2.973
    120 Scottish Scottish13 Modern; 2.983
    121 DEU_BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN I0059 Ancient; BCE:2200 2.987
    123 England_MBA I7577 Ancient; BCE:1254 3
    124 Dutch Netherlands11 Modern; 3.001
    125 England_Saxon I0769 Ancient; CE:495 3.001
    126 ITA_Collegno_MA CL83 Ancient; CE:671 3.006
    128 England_MBA I7568 Ancient; BCE:1425 3.019
    129 England_Saxon I0777 Ancient; CE:472 3.023
    130 Orcadian HGDP00805 Modern; 3.025
    131 IRL_BA_Averaged Averaged 3.031
    132 Swedish Sweden10 Modern; 3.037
    133 Icelandic NA15763 Modern; 3.038
    134 England_Saxon I0774 Ancient; CE:467 3.04
    135 English England13 Modern; 3.048
    136 English HG01791 Modern; 3.049
    137 DEU_MA_Averaged Averaged 3.049
    138 Irish Irish52 Modern; 3.058
    139 Irish Irish59 Modern; 3.065
    140 Irish Irish48 Modern; 3.072
    141 English_Cornwall HG00232 Modern; 3.072
    142 Scottish Scottish5 Modern; 3.073
    143 England_Saxon I0161 Ancient; CE:785 3.076
    144 Swedish Sweden16 Modern; 3.076
    145 Scottish Scottish19 Modern; 3.08
    147 English_Cornwall HG00249 Modern; 3.087
    148 German German34 Modern; 3.089
    149 Bell_Beaker_England I5379 Ancient; BCE:2382 3.096
    150 English English6 Modern; 3.112
    151 English England8 Modern; 3.116
    152 Scottish Scottish8 Modern; 3.125
    153 CZE_Unetice_EBA_Averaged Averaged 3.13
    154 Wales_CA_EBA_Averaged Averaged 3.131
    155 Wales_CA_EBA I1775 Ancient; BCE:1631 3.131
    156 England_MBA I7627 Ancient; BCE:1316 3.14
    157 England_Roman 6DT22 Ancient; CE:200 3.145
    158 English English4 Modern; 3.147
    159 English HG02215 Modern; 3.158
    160 Scottish Scottish26 Modern; 3.162
    161 Bell_Beaker_POL_Averaged Averaged 3.167
    162 Bell_Beaker_England I3256 Ancient; BCE:2075 3.167
    163 England_Roman 6DT21 Ancient; CE:200 3.168
    164 Bell_Beaker_NLD I5750 Ancient; BCE:2100 3.168
    165 Bell_Beaker_CZE I5514 Ancient; BCE:2250 3.169
    166 Irish Irish42 Modern; 3.171
    167 Norwegian NOR101 Modern; 3.182
    168 HUN_MA_Szolad SZ22 Ancient; CE:505 3.183
    169 Irish Irish12 Modern; 3.183
    170 Irish Irish47 Modern; 3.187
    171 English England15 Modern; 3.19
    172 Irish Irish25 Modern; 3.191
    173 Bell_Beaker_England_Averaged Averaged 3.192
    174 Icelandic NA15757 Modern; 3.195
    175 German German46 Modern; 3.197
    176 Irish Irish21 Modern; 3.198
    177 England_Saxon I0773 Ancient; CE:460 3.199
    178 Orcadian HGDP00798 Modern; 3.2
    179 Scottish Scottish25 Modern; 3.203
    180 Irish Irish19 Modern; 3.208
    181 Bell_Beaker_CZE I4895 Ancient; BCE:2160 3.209
    182 Irish Irish31 Modern; 3.216
    183 Scottish Scottish7 Modern; 3.218
    184 Icelandic NA15756 Modern; 3.219
    185 England_MBA I7570 Ancient; BCE:1633 3.224
    186 Dutch Netherlands21 Modern; 3.229
    187 England_MBA I7626 Ancient; BCE:1262 3.231
    188 Bell_Beaker_CZE_Averaged Averaged 3.233
    189 England_CA_EBA I5377 Ancient; BCE:1794 3.242
    190 Swedish Sweden5 Modern; 3.248
    191 French French41 Modern; 3.251
    192 Irish Irish65 Modern; 3.253
    193 Dutch Netherlands63 Modern; 3.255
    194 Dutch Netherlands44 Modern; 3.257
    195 Swedish Sweden20 Modern; 3.257
    196 Icelandic NA15760 Modern; 3.258
    197 Scottish Scottish16 Modern; 3.262
    198 Scottish Scottish14 Modern; 3.262
    199 Irish Irish58 Modern; 3.264
    200 NLD_BA_Averaged Averaged 3.271
    201 Scotland_LBA I2861 Ancient; BCE:900 3.272
    202 England_Roman 6DT3 Ancient; CE:200 3.273
    203 Swedish Sweden3 Modern; 3.273
    204 Bell_Beaker_CZE I7249 Ancient; BCE:2250 3.274
    205 HUN_MA_Szolad SZ4 Ancient; CE:505 3.275
    206 England_MBA I7576 Ancient; BCE:1104 3.284
    207 Shetlandic Shetlands3 Modern; 3.286
    208 German German24 Modern; 3.287
    209 Irish Irish46 Modern; 3.288
    210 Dutch Netherlands36 Modern; 3.292
    211 ITA_Collegno_MA CL92 Ancient; CE:671 3.293
    213 Norwegian NOR109 Modern; 3.299
    214 England_Roman 6DT18 Ancient; CE:200 3.309
    215 Norwegian NOR107 Modern; 3.31
    216 England_MBA I7571 Ancient; BCE:1353 3.318
    217 Icelandic NA15755 Modern; 3.319
    218 Irish Irish63 Modern; 3.323
    219 Irish Irish43 Modern; 3.326
    220 Scotland_CA_EBA_Averaged Averaged 3.329
    221 German_Averaged Averaged 3.333
    222 NLD_BA I4070 Ancient; BCE:1768 3.342
    223 England_MBA I7574 Ancient; BCE:1318 3.345
    224 Irish Irish33 Modern; 3.346
    225 England_IA I0160 Ancient; BCE:45 3.347
    226 English_Cornwall HG00236 Modern; 3.349
    227 England_MBA I7573 Ancient; BCE:1574 3.349
    228 HUN_MA_Szolad SZ42 Ancient; CE:505 3.356
    229 English HG01789 Modern; 3.361
    230 Irish Irish32 Modern; 3.363
    231 Shetlandic Shetlands1 Modern; 3.364
    232 Bell_Beaker_Mittelelbe-Saale I0805 Ancient; BCE:2250 3.366
    233 Scotland_MBA I2573 Ancient; BCE:1400 3.368
    234 Scottish Scottish3 Modern; 3.371
    235 Irish Irish34 Modern; 3.378
    236 Bell_Beaker_CZE I7212 Ancient; BCE:2350 3.378
    237 Bell_Beaker_Bavaria I5521 Ancient; BCE:2250 3.383
    238 Bell_Beaker_Mittelelbe-Saale I0112 Ancient; BCE:2250 3.386
    239 DEU_Halberstadt_LBA_Averaged Averaged 3.387
    240 DEU_Halberstadt_LBA I0099 Ancient; BCE:1067 3.387
    241 DEU_Unetice_EBA_Averaged Averaged 3.395
    242 Dutch Netherlands7 Modern; 3.402
    243 Irish Irish3 Modern; 3.407
    244 Irish Irish10 Modern; 3.411
    245 ITA_Collegno_MA CL151 Ancient; CE:671 3.413
    246 Bell_Beaker_CZE I7269 Ancient; BCE:2250 3.413
    247 Orcadian HGDP00796 Modern; 3.423
    248 DEU_Unetice_EBA I0117 Ancient; BCE:2155 3.423
    249 Orcadian HGDP00802 Modern; 3.446
    250 Icelandic NA15762 Modern; 3.452

    The great thing about the G25 is that it is updated as new samples become available. I've noticed now that Brittany has been added to this. I've put the modern populations I'm closest to in blue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Western_French View Post
    There is more than certainly a glitch in the part of their algorithm that calculates share segments distance, it's pretty obvious, hope it gets resolved asap and I am surprise they didn't realize it yet.
    The more I read about it , from people here more knowledgeable than I am, the more I doubt the largest segment/total cMs for my deep dive matches . This for example is highly suspect.

    Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland
    935 AD
    SSG-A4
    Total cM=111.0
    Largest segment=56.38 cM (5 shared. Sample quality: 95)

    I wonder,might be paranoia I admit, whether the inflated total cMs/largest segment is done deliberately. The idea being that people will tell other people "I got some great results with this"
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    MDLP K23B: Dutch + German-Volga + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR @ 1.880189
    Eurogenes K13:Southeast_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.292434
    Dodecad v3:CEU + CEU + German + Orkney @ 1.508807
    Harappaworld:n-european + n-european + orcadian + utahn-white @ 1.186455
    puntDNAL K12 modern:Czech + Dutch_South + English_South + English_South @ 1.900828

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    My 250 with custom users left out.

    1 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Orcadian_Averaged Averaged 1.447
    2 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Scottish_Averaged Averaged 1.614
    3 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey English HG01789 Modern; 1.778
    4 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish_Averaged Averaged 1.816
    5 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Orcadian HGDP00800 Modern; 1.941
    6 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey English_Averaged Averaged 1.945
    7 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Orcadian HGDP00799 Modern; 1.972
    8 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey English HG02215 Modern; 1.975
    9 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Scotland_LBA_Averaged Averaged 2.008
    10 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey English_Cornwall_Averaged Averaged 2.031
    11 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey England_Roman_Averaged Averaged 2.05
    12 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Scottish Scottish21 Modern; 2.055
    13 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Icelandic_Averaged Averaged 2.059
    15 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Orcadian HGDP00797 Modern; 2.112
    16 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Norwegian NOR101 Modern; 2.116
    17 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Scottish Scottish1 Modern; 2.126
    18 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Icelandic NA15756 Modern; 2.141
    19 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Scottish Scottish26 Modern; 2.175
    21 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Scottish Scottish22 Modern; 2.181
    22 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Orcadian HGDP00796 Modern; 2.182
    23 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Dutch_Averaged Averaged 2.199
    24 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish39 Modern; 2.203
    25 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Orcadian HGDP00803 Modern; 2.204
    27 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey French_Brittany_Averaged Averaged 2.265

    29 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Scottish Scottish19 Modern; 2.308
    30 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey English_Cornwall HG00160 Modern; 2.31
    31 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Orcadian HGDP00798 Modern; 2.314
    33 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Shetlandic_Averaged Averaged 2.354
    34 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Norwegian NOR107 Modern; 2.358
    35 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey DEU_MA_Averaged Averaged 2.36
    36 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Scottish Scottish8 Modern; 2.383
    37 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey English_Cornwall HG00259 Modern; 2.396
    38 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey England_Saxon I0159 Ancient; CE:703 2.4
    39 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish52 Modern; 2.407
    40 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey England_Saxon NO3423 Ancient; CE:780 2.409
    42 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Welsh_Averaged Averaged 2.412
    43 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey England_MBA_Averaged Averaged 2.415
    44 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Welsh WAL004 Modern; 2.416
    45 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Icelandic NA15758 Modern; 2.418
    46 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey English_Cornwall HG00243 Modern; 2.428
    47 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Custom AGUser_Timberwolf 2.43
    48 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey ITA_Collegno_MA CL84 Ancient; CE:671 2.445
    49 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Norwegian_Averaged Averaged 2.461
    51 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Scottish Scottish12 Modern; 2.477
    52 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Scottish Scottish24 Modern; 2.489
    53 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey England_MBA I7627 Ancient; BCE:1316 2.49
    55 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Scotland_LBA I2860 Ancient; BCE:892 2.514
    56 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey England_MBA I7572 Ancient; BCE:1406 2.515
    57 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey English English5 Modern; 2.52
    58 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish56 Modern; 2.526
    59 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey French_Brittany French24247 2.529
    61 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey English English2 Modern; 2.54
    62 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish41 Modern; 2.542
    63 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish34 Modern; 2.552
    64 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Scottish Scottish9 Modern; 2.564
    65 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Scottish Scottish27 Modern; 2.566
    66 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Orcadian HGDP00804 Modern; 2.569
    67 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey England_Saxon_Averaged Averaged 2.573
    68 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish51 Modern; 2.577
    69 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey English_Cornwall HG00264 Modern; 2.585
    71 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey English England13 Modern; 2.587
    72 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Norwegian NOR108 Modern; 2.589
    73 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Icelandic NA15757 Modern; 2.59
    74 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Scottish Scottish10 Modern; 2.596
    75 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish44 Modern; 2.616
    76 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey English_Cornwall HG00252 Modern; 2.62
    77 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey Irish Irish58 Modern; 2.626
    78 Custom:AGUser_firemonkey SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna vik_grt035 2.638
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    Although I don't have deep dive, the one it shows me for free is across every chromosome besides the two sex chromosomes. Does anyone else have this seemingly much CM's in common with samples?

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    Why are serbs so much related to romania and moldavia in gedmatch and this!

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    I am pretty newbie with all this personally but could be that a lot of the DNA of these old samples damaged significantly with time, hence the results not being very accurate, but all together it still gives a broad idea I think. For example I wouldn't rely too much on a DNA comparison with a 40000 years old Neanderthal specimen, that's way too old, but I would look at the comparison with a mediieval sample more seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by firemonkey View Post
    The more I read about it , from people here more knowledgeable than I am, the more I doubt the largest segment/total cMs for my deep dive matches . This for example is highly suspect.

    Viking Gaelic Mix Iceland
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    Total cM=111.0
    Largest segment=56.38 cM (5 shared. Sample quality: 95)

    I wonder,might be paranoia I admit, whether the inflated total cMs/largest segment is done deliberately. The idea being that people will tell other people "I got some great results with this"
    I would more think of a bug in their system when calculating the size of shared segments, they are still at the experimental stage you can see the way their website is improving constantly, there is no reason for them to give wrong results, because in the long term people would always find out and move away from them.

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    @PaleoEuropean
    Congrats you're the direct descendant of this 1400BC individual!
    These cM results are so way off it's not funny.
    One of the Sigtuna "Vikings" 1100AD. That term bugs me and I will get to that later, is my mothers 4th cousin according to her results at almost 50 cM
    If she is this individuals "4th Cousin" then why don't I have a match to the same DNA sample with my results?
    Very funky stuff.

    Getting back to the "Viking" thing this site is using, Viking is not an ethnicity is an occupation, it's what the Norse did.
    Norsemen or Norse would be a more appropriate term to use.

    I'll be sticking to Gedmatch and the calculators there for the time being, and checking out my"not quite so true"ancestry for a bit of a fun diversion and taking it all in with a grain of salt, there are certainly a number of things that do make sense.
    I've found a paper trail of records with a connection to the 1650 Coffin DNA sample on my mothers side through a material line, but that deep dive? hmmmmmm.

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