Dodecad k12b West, Central & South Asian results Vol. 3

Southern Iranian result with high Subsaharan component. I am thinking half Fars half Bandari or something else with a high african percentage like Ahvaz arabs

Gedrosia 25.22 Pct
Siberian 2.17 Pct
Northwest_African 1.57 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 3.81 Pct
North_European 6.63 Pct
South_Asian 5.3 Pct
East_African 2.56 Pct
Southwest_Asian 14.61 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 34.03 Pct
Sub_Saharan 4.1 Pct

Target: k
Distance: 1.8596% / 1.85955566 | ADC: 0.25x RC
37.7 Iranian_Fars
27.1 Iran_Mazandaran
23.1 Iran_Arab
5.7 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
4.6 Luhya
1.8 Dolgan

His mother's results are pretty typical Fars results potentially a bit of qashqai heritage but i am not sure.

Gedrosia 25.82 Pct
Siberian 2.48 Pct
Northwest_African 1.43 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 4.37 Pct
North_European 7.72 Pct
South_Asian 7.24 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 14.57 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 36.36 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Target: m
Distance: 2.7393% / 2.73929226 | ADC: 0.5x RC
38.1 Iraq_Turkmen
24.8 Parsi_India
19.7 Iranian_Fars
17.4 Azerbaijani_Dagestan

Persian from Kazerun (Fars):

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Gedrosian: 30.25
Siberian: 0.68
Northwest_African: 0.00
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 6.83
North_European: 5.70
South_Asian: 5.36
East_African: 1.54
Southwest_Asian: 13.87
East_Asian: 0.80
Caucasian: 34.98
Sub_Saharan: 0.00

Distance to: Iran_Kazerun
3.60636937 Iranian_Fars
4.36848944 Iran_Central
4.55298803 Iran_C_East
5.70825718 Lur_Iran
6.46577915 Iranian
6.54896938 Yazidi
7.41114701 Iran_Khorasan
7.41114701 Iran_Khorasan
7.68012370 Kurd_Sorani
7.95839808 Iran_Mazandaran
8.09211962 Kurd_Adygea
8.74547883 Kurd_Kurmanji
9.18836765 Talysh_Azerbaijan
9.76480927 Iraq_Turkmen
10.36600212 Zaza
10.63619293 Azerbaijani_Iran
11.89886129 Azerbaijani
12.91022850 Parsi_India
13.02544049 Azerbaijani_Turkey
14.24920349 Iraqi_Baghdad
14.36519405 Turk_Southeast
14.67294108 Iran_Bandari
15.55268787 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
15.61323477 Udi_Azerbaijan
15.72216588 Iran_Arab

Target: Iran_Kazerun
Distance: 1.7328% / 1.73277732 | ADC: 0.25x RC
40.4 Yazidi
31.4 Lur_Iran
17.3 Balochi
10.9 Iran_C_East

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Originally Posted by Leto

Some mixed Turk (partially Balkan?). Kaspias may know him

Kit number: A507571

Gedrosia 15.27 Pct
Siberian 7.33 Pct
Northwest_African 1.38 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 16.19 Pct
North_European 18.15 Pct
South_Asian 1.75 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 9.27 Pct
East_Asian 2.38 Pct
Caucasus 28.28 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Iraz
7.98154120 Turk_Northwest
8.20278611 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
10.35562649 Turk_Southwest
11.18648291 Turk_West_BlackSea
11.89668021 Turk_Trakya
13.02064131 Turk_Central_West
13.79863399 Turk_South
14.78655132 Greek_Lemnos
14.86136939 Turk_Deliorman
15.70946530 Turk_Central_Black_Sea

Target: Iraz
Distance: 1.2676% / 1.26762130 | ADC: 0.25x RC
28.0 Yagnobi
23.6 Italian_Sicily
21.1 Turk_Northwest
19.9 Turk_Trakya
4.7 Dolgan
2.7 Saudi

Target: Iraz
Distance: 1.4222% / 1.42218132 | R3P
40.3 Italian_Lazio
39.5 Kurd_Adygea
20.2 Tatar_Zabolotniye

I've noticed that this new Reduce function tends to give smaller distances.

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1/4 Tatar from Deliorman 1/4 Turk from Deliorman other 1/2 is from Tunceli, I don't know the ethnicity. Seems like either Zaza or Kurdish though.

New Iranian Azerbaijani result:

Gedrosian: 22.67
Siberian: 2.14
Northwest_African: 1.74
Southeast_Asian: 0.19
Atlantic_Med: 8.30
North_European: 9.20
South_Asian: 2.04
East_African: 0.19
Southwest_Asian: 11.61
East_Asian: 4.26
Caucasian: 37.84
Sub_Saharan: 0.00

Distance to: Iranian_Azerbaijani
2.51775694 Azerbaijani_Iran
2.75775271 Azerbaijani
3.99787444 Azerbaijani_Turkey
5.48444163 Kurd_Kurmanji
5.93455137 Turk_Southeast
6.37577446 Yazidi
6.47911259 Zaza
6.54688476 Kurd_Adygea
6.73116632 Talysh_Azerbaijan
7.22070634 Kurd_Sorani
7.32363298 Iraq_Turkmen
8.60027907 Turk_Central_East
8.66808514 Turk_South
8.96881263 Iranian
9.07676154 Iranian_Fars
9.20468902 Lur_Iran
9.64202261 Udi_Azerbaijan
9.80455506 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
10.10592401 Turk_East
10.10711630 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
10.12378388 Iran_Khorasan
10.18368794 Turk_Central_West
11.84399004 Iraqi_Baghdad
12.12389376 Turk_Southwest
12.33641763 Turk_West_BlackSea

Target: Iranian_Azerbaijani
Distance: 1.8740% / 1.87402541 | ADC: 0.5x RC
78.6 Azerbaijani_Iran
15.1 Azerbaijani
6.3 Tajik_Mountain


Interesting Iranian result (assumingly from Alborz):

Gedrosian: 21.03
Siberian: 0.87
Northwest_African: 0.74
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 9.18
North_European: 12.37
South_Asian: 2.85
East_African: 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 12.39
East_Asian: 5.03
Caucasian: 34.89
Sub_Saharan: 0.66

Distance to: Sab
5.32066725 Azerbaijani
6.76876651 Azerbaijani_Iran
6.88611647 Turk_Southeast
7.32500512 Azerbaijani_Turkey
8.49930585 Turk_South
9.23180372 Kurd_Kurmanji
9.38988285 Turk_Central_East
9.39099569 Turk_Central_West
9.97948896 Yazidi
10.02650986 Iraq_Turkmen
10.05904071 Kurd_Sorani
10.29212806 Iran_Khorasan
10.40738200 Zaza
10.49013346 Turk_Southwest
10.52786778 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
10.54127127 Kurd_Adygea
10.70915963 Turk_West_BlackSea
10.82534526 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
10.98814361 Talysh_Azerbaijan
11.04581821 Iranian_Fars
11.93904100 Turk_Northwest
12.92222504 Iranian
12.93057230 Udi_Azerbaijan
12.99249784 Lur_Iran
13.03612673 Turk_East

Target: Sab
Distance: 2.0680% / 2.06804271 | ADC: 0.25x RC
69.4 Azerbaijani
16.4 Iran_Khorasan
6.9 Iraqi_Arab
5.6 Latvian
1.7 Japanese

Cool, the Azeri looks like he could be from the North and the Iranian may have genuine European by some chance.

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Originally Posted by Leto

Cool, the Azeri looks like he could be from the North and the Iranian may have genuine European by some chance.

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Yep,what Turkic group is the most mixed group by your opinion?

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Originally Posted by Leto

Cool, the Azeri looks like he could be from the North and the Iranian may have genuine European by some chance.

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Judging from his East Asian the 2nd might be Azeri too. Alborz is 36.1% Azerbaijani-speaking officialy (although it's not as commonly used anymore I think)

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Originally Posted by Nomad

Yep,what Turkic group is the most mixed group by your opinion?

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Why are you asking me this question out of the blue? I can't even answer it because it's pretty dubious.

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Originally Posted by Leto

Why are you asking me this question out of the blue? I can't even answer it because it's pretty dubious.

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edited to question :) which Turkic subgroup is the most mixed group by your opinion?

I asked that because Russian people are living with all Turkic groups from Turks into Sakha people in their country and if you have a chance maybe you can meet different Turkic persons from different groups and lands in Russia.

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Originally Posted by Nomad

edited to question :) which Turkic subgroup is the most mixed group by your opinion?

I asked that because Russian people are living with all Turkic groups from Turks into Sakha people in their country and if you have a chance maybe you can meet different Turkic persons from different groups and lands in Russia.

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What do you mean by mixed? Turkics have never been homogeneous being largely mobile and nomadic. The Yakuts are heavily Tungusic or something like.

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Originally Posted by Leto

What do you mean by mixed? Turkics have never been homogeneous being largely mobile and nomadic. The Yakuts are heavily Tungusic or something like.

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Facial phenotypes by your opinion.

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Originally Posted by Leto

What do you mean by mixed? Turkics have never been homogeneous being largely mobile and nomadic. The Yakuts are heavily Tungusic or something like.

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Yakuts are less Turkic than Anatolian Turks or about the same amount, I guess. Because they're too much more Mongoloid(90%) than ancient Turkics. Indeed an article about them said they're Gokturks who migrated to Eastern Siberia and heavily mixed with Tungusic & Samoyedic peoples. It seems to be most likely true.

Ancient Turkic samples are about 25%-60% Mongoloid. Yakuts are too much Mongoloid & Turks are too much less than ancient Turkics. But might be wrong also. Correct me if I'm wrong

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Originally Posted by Nomad

Facial phenotypes by your opinion.

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Turkmens(not mainly Iranid-admixed ones), Uyghurs & some Uzbeks are what come across my mind about "Ancient/proto Turkics". Shortly; they were sort of Eurasian-looking, I guess

Proto Turks probably about 50% Mongoloid OR 100% Mongoloid OR 0%.
TBH, I don't think it matters because the Turkic descent in various parts of the world is not from Proto Turks, its from Medieval Turks. And those are generally around 40-60%

Let's not start this discussion again right here. It's pretty much pointless.

Persian:

today I have found two of the highest North-Euro scores of ethnic Iranians to date lol

Gedrosian: 24.45
Siberian: 0.00
Northwest_African: 2.36
Southeast_Asian: 1.08
Atlantic_Med: 5.50
North_European: 12.53
South_Asian: 6.02
East_African: 0.22
Southwest_Asian: 10.09
East_Asian: 0.28
Caucasian: 37.47
Sub_Saharan: 0.00

Distance to: Persian
6.96071835 Iran_Central
7.83078540 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
8.11666804 Azerbaijani_Iran
8.20392589 Iran_Khorasan
8.28014493 Talysh_Azerbaijan
8.67503314 Azerbaijani
8.70777813 Iranian_Fars
8.72634517 Kurd_Kurmanji
8.78156592 Yazidi
8.80595821 Kurd_Adygea
8.92702638 Iran_C_East
9.27201165 Kurd_Sorani
9.54188661 Iranian
9.55981171 Azerbaijani_Turkey
9.61022893 Zaza
10.67402455 Iraq_Turkmen
10.78162789 Lur_Iran
11.16981199 Tsakhur_Azerbaijan
11.69803830 Turk_Southeast
11.97436428 Iran_Mazandaran
12.18942985 Udi_Azerbaijan
12.75103133 Lezgin
13.11740066 Ingush
13.89994245 Turk_Central_East
13.92761286 Qumuq

Target: Persian
Distance: 2.3034% / 2.30344519 | ADC: 0.25x RC
61.1 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
20.6 Kurd_Sorani
13.9 Parsi_India
2.4 Algerian
2.0 Dhurwa

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Originally Posted by Kyp

Persian:

today I have found two of the highest North-Euro scores of ethnic Iranians to date lol

Gedrosian: 24.45
Siberian: 0.00
Northwest_African: 2.36
Southeast_Asian: 1.08
Atlantic_Med: 5.50
North_European: 12.53
South_Asian: 6.02
East_African: 0.22
Southwest_Asian: 10.09
East_Asian: 0.28
Caucasian: 37.47
Sub_Saharan: 0.00

Distance to: Persian
6.96071835 Iran_Central
7.83078540 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
8.11666804 Azerbaijani_Iran
8.20392589 Iran_Khorasan

Target: Persian
Distance: 2.3034% / 2.30344519 | ADC: 0.25x RC
61.1 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
20.6 Kurd_Sorani
13.9 Parsi_India
2.4 Algerian
2.0 Dhurwa

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NE score is so high that the algorithm still matches him/her with Azeris, even though there is next to no mongoloid component. Very interesting. Does this person have any ancestors who had migrated from Azerbaijan(republic)?

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Originally Posted by Sterling Archer

NE score is so high that the algorithm still matches him/her with Azeris, even though there is next to no mongoloid component. Very interesting. Does this person have any ancestors who had migrated from Azerbaijan(republic)?

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Not that I'm aware of. I don't know from where he is exactly unfortunately.

On the previous site I posted a similar high North Euro result from Alborz region who is potentially Azeri. Check it out.

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Originally Posted by Kyp

Not that I'm aware of. I don't know from where he is exactly unfortunately.

On the previous site I posted a similar high North Euro result from Alborz region who is potentially Azeri. Check it out.

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Wow, how did I miss that? )) Yeah, both results look Azeri to me, what with top matches being Azeris. Of course he/she might not identify as one. That combination of high NE and (relatively) high EA seems to be very typical of Azerbaijanis. Although, I would have expected the second one to be from the republic.


In this case though high NE is not matched with EA admixture. Even North Caucasus people like Chechen who have high NE typically score EA similar to Azeris, here though it is absent. That is why I thought maybe he had ancestors who migrated from northern Azerbaijan/Dagestan and settled in Iran. Over the year EA would have been diluted.
I have read about cases when Azeris from Dagestan settled in Iran, so it is possible.

Speaking of high NE, here is the result of an Azerbaijani (both parents are azeris) from Ilisu, Azerbaijan.

https://i.imgur.com/1G9JoTR.jpg

Georgians (reactivated kits, previously unavailable). I have another large Georgian account, will be processing those kits later

#1

Gedrosia 19.24 Pct
Siberian 1.13 Pct
Northwest_African 0.28 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.06 Pct
Atlantic_Med 3.32 Pct
North_European 11.07 Pct
South_Asian 0.17 Pct
East_African 0.08 Pct
Southwest_Asian 7.84 Pct
East_Asian 0.44 Pct
Caucasus 56.36 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Ani
3.35819892 Abkhazian
3.37924548 Georgian
3.52423041 Georgian_Gurian
4.53533902 Georgian_Svan
5.12870354 Georgian_Imereti
5.73767374 Georgian_Mingrelian
6.44806172 Turk_Ahiska
7.22382862 Georgian_Turkey
8.55595115 Ossetian_South
8.64647905 Georgian_Adjara

Target: Ani
Distance: 1.4242% / 1.42421160 | ADC: 0.5x RC
48.9 Georgian_Gurian
47.5 Abkhazian
3.6 Kuwait2

#2

R-L23
T2c1b

Gedrosia 18.55 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.75 Pct
Atlantic_Med 4.44 Pct
North_European 9.7 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African 0.3 Pct
Southwest_Asian 9.76 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 56.5 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Roman
3.39057517 Georgian
4.54172875 Georgian_Gurian
4.85564620 Georgian_Imereti
5.09393757 Turk_Ahiska
5.89180787 Abkhazian
5.90160995 Georgian_Turkey
6.57005327 Georgian_Mingrelian
6.86263798 Georgian_Svan
7.03861492 Laz
7.15366340 Georgian_Adjara

Target: Roman
Distance: 1.0755% / 1.07551118 | ADC: 0.25x RC
71.1 Georgian_Gurian
12.0 Georgian
10.7 Georgian_Imereti
6.2 Kuwait2

#3

Gedrosia 18.96 Pct
Siberian 0.36 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 4.08 Pct
North_European 8.55 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African 0.08 Pct
Southwest_Asian 5.72 Pct
East_Asian 1.2 Pct
Caucasus 61.04 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: David
1.41255088 Georgian_Mingrelian
2.59557315 Georgian_Imereti
3.33904178 Georgian_Gurian
4.53405999 Georgian_Svan
5.56895861 Georgian_Turkey
6.70417034 Georgian
6.96267190 Georgian_Adjara
6.97169276 Abkhazian
8.82066891 Laz
9.56565209 Turk_Ahiska

Target: David
Distance: 1.1297% / 1.12974278
86.5 Georgian_Mingrelian
13.5 Georgian_Turkey

Hemshin results

Population
Gedrosia 17.85 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 9.62 Pct
North_European 2.21 Pct
South_Asian 1.67 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 11.81 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 56.85 Pct
Sub_Saharan -


Distance to: **
3.03945719 Hemshin
3.74857306 Laz
5.08129905 Georgian_Adjara
5.21605215 Greek_Pontus
5.35778872 Turk_East_Black_Sea
6.31643095 Georgian_Turkey
7.93452582 Turk_Ahiska
8.53433067 Armenian_East
9.07279450 Armenian_West
9.35736074 Georgian_Imereti
9.75948257 Georgian
11.77699452 Georgian_Gurian
12.10671301 Georgian_Mingrelian
12.19608954 Assyrian_North
12.38856731 Assyrian_West
12.50838918 Azeri_Jew
12.60994845 Turk_East
12.69321472 Assyrian_South
12.97127210 Udi_Azerbaijan
13.86353851 Abkhazian
14.31550558 Georgian_Svan
15.22936309 Greek_Cappadocia
15.60460189 Kurdish_Jew
15.90698274 Iranian_Jew
16.35824563 Iraqi_Jew


Target: **
Distance: 2.2965% / 2.29653898 | ADC: 0.25x RC
57.7 Georgian_Adjara
29.7 Greek_Pontus
11.9 Assyrian_South
0.7 Pulliyar


Target: **
Distance: 2.5992% / 2.59919982 | ADC: 0.5x RC
46.8 Hemshin
37.7 Georgian_Adjara
15.5 Assyrian_North

Some Pamiri (not new but recently reactivated). His Med is very high but other components don't indicate mixed ancestry, so that's probably all Aryanic

Gedrosia 31.19 Pct
Siberian 6.23 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.26 Pct
Atlantic_Med 8.22 Pct
North_European 20.87 Pct
South_Asian 7.67 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 2.06 Pct
East_Asian 3.95 Pct
Caucasus 19.54 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: axel
5.31214646 Pamiri_Rushan
5.50505223 Tajik_Lowland
5.61247717 Pamiri_Shughnan
5.68164589 Yagnobi
6.60589888 Tajik_Mountain
8.24745415 Pamiri_Ishkashim
12.29492578 Tajik_Herat
13.41123037 Pashtun_Kandahar
15.20568644 Tajik_Kabul
15.72897962 Turkmen_TM

Target: axel
Distance: 1.3353% / 1.33532193 | ADC: 0.25x RC
58.2 Yagnobi
21.1 Pamiri_Rushan
10.3 Burusho
4.6 Tajik_Mountain
2.9 Spanish_Basque
2.9 Yukagir

Target: axel
Distance: 2.2629% / 2.26291492 | R3P
82.4 Yagnobi
8.8 Altaian_Chelkan
8.8 Sindhi

Distance to: axel
2.91170704 57.20% Pamiri_Rushan + 42.80% Tajik_Mountain
2.98120388 77.80% Pamiri_Rushan + 22.20% Turkmen_TM
3.08379377 80.00% Pamiri_Rushan + 20.00% Turkmen_Iran
3.28855562 82.20% Pamiri_Rushan + 17.80% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
3.39380968 56.00% Pamiri_Shughnan + 44.00% Tajik_Mountain
3.40650768 77.40% Pamiri_Shughnan + 22.60% Turkmen_TM
3.42066034 51.40% Pamiri_Rushan + 48.60% Tajik_Lowland
3.46056924 87.40% Pamiri_Shughnan + 12.60% Turk_Central_Black_Sea
3.49090670 86.20% Pamiri_Shughnan + 13.80% Turk_Southwest
3.53212994 86.80% Pamiri_Shughnan + 13.20% Turk_South

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Originally Posted by Leto

Some Pamiri (not new but recently reactivated). His Med is very high but other components don't indicate mixed ancestry, so that's probably all Aryanic

Gedrosia 31.19 Pct
Siberian 6.23 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.26 Pct
Atlantic_Med 8.22 Pct
North_European 20.87 Pct
South_Asian 7.67 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 2.06 Pct
East_Asian 3.95 Pct
Caucasus 19.54 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: axel
5.31214646 Pamiri_Rushan
5.50505223 Tajik_Lowland
5.61247717 Pamiri_Shughnan
5.68164589 Yagnobi
6.60589888 Tajik_Mountain
8.24745415 Pamiri_Ishkashim
12.29492578 Tajik_Herat
13.41123037 Pashtun_Kandahar
15.20568644 Tajik_Kabul
15.72897962 Turkmen_TM

Target: axel
Distance: 1.3353% / 1.33532193 | ADC: 0.25x RC
58.2 Yagnobi
21.1 Pamiri_Rushan
10.3 Burusho
4.6 Tajik_Mountain
2.9 Spanish_Basque
2.9 Yukagir

Target: axel
Distance: 2.2629% / 2.26291492 | R3P
82.4 Yagnobi
8.8 Altaian_Chelkan
8.8 Sindhi

Distance to: axel
2.91170704 57.20% Pamiri_Rushan + 42.80% Tajik_Mountain
2.98120388 77.80% Pamiri_Rushan + 22.20% Turkmen_TM
3.08379377 80.00% Pamiri_Rushan + 20.00% Turkmen_Iran
3.28855562 82.20% Pamiri_Rushan + 17.80% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
3.39380968 56.00% Pamiri_Shughnan + 44.00% Tajik_Mountain
3.40650768 77.40% Pamiri_Shughnan + 22.60% Turkmen_TM
3.42066034 51.40% Pamiri_Rushan + 48.60% Tajik_Lowland
3.46056924 87.40% Pamiri_Shughnan + 12.60% Turk_Central_Black_Sea
3.49090670 86.20% Pamiri_Shughnan + 13.80% Turk_Southwest
3.53212994 86.80% Pamiri_Shughnan + 13.20% Turk_South

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It just occurred to me this calculator is not balanced well because there are 3 components very relevant to W. Asians; Caucasian, SW Asian, and Atlantic-Med, but for C Asians there’s only Gedrosian and maybe S Indian a little.

This calculator could have been made a little more balanced by adding another C Asian component such as Tajik or Persian. What do you think would happen to the Siberian, E Asian, SE Asian, S Indian scores of Pamiri if a Persian or Tajik component was added to this calculator?

That’s why a 1-to-1 population comparison is more informative because it’s not affected by what components the calculator uses

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Originally Posted by Zoro

It just occurred to me this calculator is not balanced well because there are 3 components very relevant to W. Asians; Caucasian, SW Asian, and Atlantic-Med, but for C Asians there’s only Gedrosian and maybe S Indian a little.

This calculator could have been made a little more balanced by adding another C Asian component such as Tajik or Persian. What do you think would happen to the Siberian, E Asian, SE Asian, S Indian scores of Pamiri if a Persian or Tajik component was added to this calculator?

That’s why a 1-to-1 population comparison is more informative because it’s not affected by what components the calculator uses

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What is in your opinion the most balanced calculator for West Asians/Central Asians?

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What is in your opinion the most balanced calculator for West Asians/Central Asians?

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I think all the ones on Gedmatch are European and W Asian heavy as far as components and Central Asian light. It might be that when those calculators were made there was a shortage of C Asian public samples and so they were made heavy with W Asian and European references.

The main issue with calculators that only have 1 C Asian component is that the S Asian/Siberian/E Asian will be exaggerated for C Asians in comparison to the S Asian/Siberian/E Asian for W Asians.

If you ever become interested in studying Admixture based calculators you'll see a big disclaimer by the creators of the Admixture software which basically says something like " it's assumed that the calculator references are the actual ancestral populations for the population being tested".

This assumption is not realistic in the case of a calculator based on modern references because those moderns are not the actual ancestral to the test subject in most cases therefore the results should be viewed with caution.

Back when those Gedmatch calculators were made there was a shortage of ancient DNA so moderns were used. Now though we have plenty of ancient samples which can be used to create calculators with truly ancestral populations and thus the results would be more informative.

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Originally Posted by Leto

Some Pamiri (not new but recently reactivated). His Med is very high but other components don't indicate mixed ancestry, so that's probably all Aryanic

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It's from Gorno Badakhshan

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Originally Posted by Gecko

(btw i still don’t understand why nomansmen is banned, he was a nice and clever guy)

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That motherfucker was banned for posting child porn. He is a sick piece of shit.

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Originally Posted by Ivan borislav

Hi, im nomansman and i have mainly made this account to adress this:

I have NEVER posted child porn before. Never done that. Thats BS. I dont know what leto is talking about

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I fucking saw it with my own eyes. And it was Loki who banned you. Now I'm reporting you again. Leave this forum the fuck alone, you bastard.

Let's leave that to the Staff. Reported.

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Originally Posted by Ivan borislav

HOW THE FUCK DID I POST THE CHILD PORN GARBAGE!?

Stop fucking lying. I think youre talking about the sick piece of shit who posted it, but it wasnt me!

Why the fuck are you lying???

I NEVER done that with ALL the accounts i made here. NEVER

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Yet all of your accounts got banned. By Loki himself. Strange, isn't it? Now I want you to leave this thread and stop spamming. You don't belong here. We don't need pages of meaningless bullshit here.

You're not making your case any easier, you know...

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Originally Posted by Ivan borislav

I got banned because i been confused for someone else, your lying fuck. 3 times(third time because he wanted to mess around). Reported by some assyrian guy(he admitted this himself in pms). 4th time because i came in fight with some armenian guy.

Never for posting child porn, your lying bitch. Stop making up lies

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I saw a very disgusting picture and it was seemingly posted by you. Maybe, just maybe it got confused in the process of deletion.

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Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker

You're not making your case any easier, you know...

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Why are you chiming in? Are you a moderator or what?

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Originally Posted by Leto

Why are you chiming in? Are you a moderator or what?

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Why I am chiming in ? I am just saying that Staff should look into it. I am perfectly neutral here.

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Originally Posted by Ivan borislav

You dont even know jackshit. Youre just picking his side because hes european and im not.

Of course im angry though.

I dont care about being banned. Im pissed because im wrongly accused of being a pedophile. You would be fucking angry too.

He knows i never done this shit before, but for some reason claimed me as pedophile. I came to make this adress and thats all.

Now stop making up shit

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I am not making anything up, lad. Staff will be with you shortly, and they will hear your case.

That has nothing to do with being European or non-European. If anything, The Lawspeaker hates the Russians and thinks they are not European.

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Originally Posted by Ivan borislav

NEVER WITH ANY OF MY ACCOUNTS. NEVER ONCE.

You must be confusing me for the guy who came around and spammed the childporn.

I never posted any pics here even. Only twice(one in pm with the pic of that pamiri guy, which wasnt even him, and a low steppe iranian)...

Also pics of myself. But for fucks sake, i NEVER posted childporn here. Thats a load of BS. Stop making up shit, leto.

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Then probably that might've been a glitch and another user's message was somehow put in your post. I will apologize if that wasn't you. Although I personally dislike sock puppet accounts and don't want them here either.

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Originally Posted by Ivan borislav

Great then. All i came here for was clearing up things. I dont care much if i get banned or not.

Just dont want to be accused for shit i havent done

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That's okay. I shouldn't have mentioned you in the first place and let that stuff be brought up again. I hope it wasn't you and hope it won't happen again either.

Its time for a new thread, 89 pages are too much. Btw, someone should ask a mod for delete the last postings...