Dodecad k12b West, Central & South Asian results Vol. 3

[Nomad]

What do you mean by mixed? Turkics have never been homogeneous being largely mobile and nomadic. The Yakuts are heavily Tungusic or something like.

Facial phenotypes by your opinion.

[Sora]

What do you mean by mixed? Turkics have never been homogeneous being largely mobile and nomadic. The Yakuts are heavily Tungusic or something like.

Yakuts are less Turkic than Anatolian Turks or about the same amount, I guess. Because they're too much more Mongoloid(90%) than ancient Turkics. Indeed an article about them said they're Gokturks who migrated to Eastern Siberia and heavily mixed with Tungusic & Samoyedic peoples. It seems to be most likely true.

Ancient Turkic samples are about 25%-60% Mongoloid. Yakuts are too much Mongoloid & Turks are too much less than ancient Turkics. But might be wrong also. Correct me if I'm wrong

[Sora]

Facial phenotypes by your opinion.

Turkmens(not mainly Iranid-admixed ones), Uyghurs & some Uzbeks are what come across my mind about "Ancient/proto Turkics". Shortly; they were sort of Eurasian-looking, I guess

[Dr_Maul]

Proto Turks probably about 50% Mongoloid OR 100% Mongoloid OR 0%.
TBH, I don't think it matters because the Turkic descent in various parts of the world is not from Proto Turks, its from Medieval Turks. And those are generally around 40-60%

[Leto]

Let's not start this discussion again right here. It's pretty much pointless.

[Kyp]

Persian:

today I have found two of the highest North-Euro scores of ethnic Iranians to date lol

Gedrosian: 24.45
Siberian: 0.00
Northwest_African: 2.36
Southeast_Asian: 1.08
Atlantic_Med: 5.50
North_European: 12.53
South_Asian: 6.02
East_African: 0.22
Southwest_Asian: 10.09
East_Asian: 0.28
Caucasian: 37.47
Sub_Saharan: 0.00

Distance to: Persian
6.96071835 Iran_Central
7.83078540 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
8.11666804 Azerbaijani_Iran
8.20392589 Iran_Khorasan
8.28014493 Talysh_Azerbaijan
8.67503314 Azerbaijani
8.70777813 Iranian_Fars
8.72634517 Kurd_Kurmanji
8.78156592 Yazidi
8.80595821 Kurd_Adygea
8.92702638 Iran_C_East
9.27201165 Kurd_Sorani
9.54188661 Iranian
9.55981171 Azerbaijani_Turkey
9.61022893 Zaza
10.67402455 Iraq_Turkmen
10.78162789 Lur_Iran
11.16981199 Tsakhur_Azerbaijan
11.69803830 Turk_Southeast
11.97436428 Iran_Mazandaran
12.18942985 Udi_Azerbaijan
12.75103133 Lezgin
13.11740066 Ingush
13.89994245 Turk_Central_East
13.92761286 Qumuq

Target: Persian
Distance: 2.3034% / 2.30344519 | ADC: 0.25x RC
61.1 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
20.6 Kurd_Sorani
13.9 Parsi_India
2.4 Algerian
2.0 Dhurwa

[Sterling Archer]

Persian:

today I have found two of the highest North-Euro scores of ethnic Iranians to date lol

Gedrosian: 24.45
Siberian: 0.00
Northwest_African: 2.36
Southeast_Asian: 1.08
Atlantic_Med: 5.50
North_European: 12.53
South_Asian: 6.02
East_African: 0.22
Southwest_Asian: 10.09
East_Asian: 0.28
Caucasian: 37.47
Sub_Saharan: 0.00

Distance to: Persian
6.96071835 Iran_Central
7.83078540 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
8.11666804 Azerbaijani_Iran
8.20392589 Iran_Khorasan

Target: Persian
Distance: 2.3034% / 2.30344519 | ADC: 0.25x RC
61.1 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
20.6 Kurd_Sorani
13.9 Parsi_India
2.4 Algerian
2.0 Dhurwa

NE score is so high that the algorithm still matches him/her with Azeris, even though there is next to no mongoloid component. Very interesting. Does this person have any ancestors who had migrated from Azerbaijan(republic)?

[Kyp]

NE score is so high that the algorithm still matches him/her with Azeris, even though there is next to no mongoloid component. Very interesting. Does this person have any ancestors who had migrated from Azerbaijan(republic)?

Not that I'm aware of. I don't know from where he is exactly unfortunately.

On the previous site I posted a similar high North Euro result from Alborz region who is potentially Azeri. Check it out.

[Sterling Archer]

Not that I'm aware of. I don't know from where he is exactly unfortunately.

On the previous site I posted a similar high North Euro result from Alborz region who is potentially Azeri. Check it out.

Wow, how did I miss that? )) Yeah, both results look Azeri to me, what with top matches being Azeris. Of course he/she might not identify as one. That combination of high NE and (relatively) high EA seems to be very typical of Azerbaijanis. Although, I would have expected the second one to be from the republic.


In this case though high NE is not matched with EA admixture. Even North Caucasus people like Chechen who have high NE typically score EA similar to Azeris, here though it is absent. That is why I thought maybe he had ancestors who migrated from northern Azerbaijan/Dagestan and settled in Iran. Over the year EA would have been diluted.
I have read about cases when Azeris from Dagestan settled in Iran, so it is possible.

[Sterling Archer]

Speaking of high NE, here is the result of an Azerbaijani (both parents are azeris) from Ilisu, Azerbaijan.