Gedmatch calculators on Vahaduo

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Originally Posted by Creoda

Hard to say. The difference between Wales and England generally is more Insular vs Continental shift than North vs South. I'd say Wales overall appears to be more Northern shifted than SW England and definitely Cornwall, but South Wales is probably similar.

This is an average of 22 Welsh academic kits (more Southern than the Welsh kits I've collected), and an average of 24 Southwest English kits, 7 from Cornwall.

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WelshK13,49.70,22.94,13.79,6.02,3.98,0.86,0.97,0.18,0.23,0.48,0.27,0.35,0.16
English_Southwest,50.26,23.06,14.23,5.30,3.67,0.76,1.13,0.03,0.20,0.54,0.45,0.17,0.13

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The Welsh K15 average of 57 kits (academic + collected), many from North Wales, is more Northern than the SW England average, so it varies.

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Welsh,36.42,28.89,9.89,8.65,9.24,4.15,0.70,0.36,0.62,0.06,0.13,0.31,0.21,0.19,0.07
English_Southwest,35.79,29.10,9.64,8.78,10.15,3.15,1.13,0.57,0.83,0.01,0.04,0.27,0.27,0.13,0.09

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I don't like those academic Welsh kits. Gedmatch samples are better representative in my opinion.
Also Irish academic samples are "super-Irish" comparing to every Gedmatch Irish kit.

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Originally Posted by Lucas

I don't like those academic Welsh kits. Gedmatch samples are better representative in my opinion.
Also Irish academic samples are "super-Irish" comparing to every Gedmatch Irish kit.

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What do you mean? I've found the Irish gedmatch kits to have less Baltic and more North Atlantic than the old Irish average in K13.

My Irish provincial averages

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Irish_Connacht,52.65,23.42,12.04,7.09,1.07,0.21,1.59,0.10,0.28,0.90,0.21,0.22,0.10
Irish_Leinster,51.84,23.04,12.80,6.68,1.97,0.62,1.09,0.31,0.09,0.74,0.39,0.19,0.16
Irish_Munster,52.87,22.83,12.42,6.79,1.52,0.35,1.34,0.19,0.28,0.78,0.23,0.16,0.16
Irish_Ulster,53.13,22.47,12.65,6.9,0.87,0.61,1.49,0.10,0.36,0.84,0.32,0.05,0.14

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Old Irish average

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Irish,52.23,24.02,12.39,6.32,1.41,0.82,1.09,0.09,0.03,0.99,0.33,0.18,0.10

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Originally Posted by Lucas

I don't like those academic Welsh kits. Gedmatch samples are better representative in my opinion.

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Is the Welsh average in K13 from gedmatch kits? If so it diverges quite a bit from SW English kits.

I added (to most popular calcs by now) new option from last Vahaduo script update.

When you click ADC, new function "recalculate" appears. By default is yes, if you change to no, results sometimes differ substantially.
Also now different "Cycles" could change results more than before.

Worth to try.

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Originally Posted by Lucas

I added (to most popular calcs by now) new option from last Vahaduo script update.

When you click ADC, new function "recalculate" appears. By default is yes, if you change to no, results sometimes differ substantially.
Also now different "Cycles" could change results more than before.

Worth to try.

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Also for G25 Vahaduo...

Recalculated

Original
Distance: 238.3089% / 2.38308868
Target: Dušan | ADC: 0.25x RC
34.0 Erzya
26.6 Moldavian
25.8 Bulgarian
13.6 Sardinian

Updated
Distance: 178.9699% / 1.78969851
Target: Dušan | ADC: 0.25x RC
61.0 Serb_B&H_Krajina
26.6 Erzya
10.8 Sardinia
1.6 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

Ancient
Distance: 156.8579% / 1.56857878
Target: Dušan | ADC: 0.25x RC
52.6 Sungir6_Early_Medieval_Russian_I2a_I2a_
33.6 MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian_
6.6 I1113_Bulgaria_MP_N_7983_ybp
4.2 AV1_Hungary_Avar_1361_ybp
3.0 scy301_SG_Moldova_Scythian_SG

Maybe "Erzya" should be renamed to "Mordovian_Erzya". Would be more understandable.

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Originally Posted by Leto

Maybe "Erzya" should be renamed to "Mordovian_Erzya". Would be more understandable.

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When I exclude Erzya from original K13

Recalculated

Distance: 238.2569% / 2.38256884
Target: Dušan | ADC: 0.25x RC
53.8 Southwest_Russian
31.2 Bulgarian
15.0 Sardinian

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Originally Posted by Dušan

When I exclude Erzya from original K13

Recalculated

Distance: 238.2569% / 2.38256884
Target: Dušan | ADC: 0.25x RC
53.8 Southwest_Russian
31.2 Bulgarian
15.0 Sardinian

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Much better. Half Slav, that sample is super Slavic.

Original K13

Distance: 242.4148% / 2.42414849
Target: Stearsolina | ADC: 0.25x RC

65.4 Croatian
22.8 Austrian
7.0 North_Ossetian
4.8 French_Basque