Actual Importance of Haplogroups

Is it possible to be assigned a haplogroup via a 23andme test for example, yet show no ethnicity estimates associated with where the haplogroup is associated with?

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Originally Posted by arkas

Is it possible to be assigned a haplogroup via a 23andme test for example, yet show no ethnicity estimates associated with where the haplogroup is associated with?

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Yes

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Originally Posted by Longbowman

Only two of my great great grandparents though, and even then atDNA is a better tell of that story. atDNA is good for population-wide studies but, again, atDNA is usually better, with haplogroups providing supporting evidence.

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I totally agree with you.

Haplotypes and haplogroups are relevant in that they can tell if extant populations had a common ancestor. Haplotypes used in studies of population genetics tell very little about the phenotype of present day human groups, because most have not been affected by environmental selection (or sexual selection, which could be a factor for some traits like eye color). As these haplogroups overlap between different populations, they are used by most geneticists and anthropologists in the West to support the claim that human races have no biological foundation. However, if I'm not mistaken many Russian and Chinese scholars still accept the concept of human races, and so generally do forensic anthropologists. Of course, as we all know, in the West ideology permeates the debate on race. This is what happens when a researcher steps out of the line:
https://quillette.com/2018/12/07/aca...-be-denounced/

Haplogroup mappings have to be viewed collectively, not individually. It doesn't work from that point of view. Also, if there is an autosomal mapping, the haplogroup mapping must be directly ruled out.

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Originally Posted by Atlantic Islander

H1 is as boring as chalk.

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Not for these Germanic fanboys that make up much of the forum.

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Originally Posted by Slavic Italian

Not for these Germanic fanboys that make up much of the forum.

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May i ask why the hate (thumbs down)?

So how do i know if my anscestor are weither arabs or berbers if not by haplogroup ?

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Originally Posted by Badr madani

So how do i know if my anscestor are weither arabs or berbers if not by haplogroup ?

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You're Moroccan? They were Berbers. There, sorted.

Haplogroup tells you nothing. Yesterday I saw an Armenian with Irish YDNA. Does it make him Irish by the standards of the Armenians or the Irish? No.

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Originally Posted by Longbowman

You're Moroccan? They were Berbers. There, sorted.

Haplogroup tells you nothing. Yesterday I saw an Armenian with Irish YDNA. Does it make him Irish by the standards of the Armenians or the Irish? No.

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So this banu hilal expansion is just a myth ?