Actual Importance of Haplogroups

[arkas]

Is it possible to be assigned a haplogroup via a 23andme test for example, yet show no ethnicity estimates associated with where the haplogroup is associated with?

[Kelmendasi]

Is it possible to be assigned a haplogroup via a 23andme test for example, yet show no ethnicity estimates associated with where the haplogroup is associated with?

Yes

[Thracian]

Only two of my great great grandparents though, and even then atDNA is a better tell of that story. atDNA is good for population-wide studies but, again, atDNA is usually better, with haplogroups providing supporting evidence.

I totally agree with you.

[Red Pill]

Haplotypes and haplogroups are relevant in that they can tell if extant populations had a common ancestor. Haplotypes used in studies of population genetics tell very little about the phenotype of present day human groups, because most have not been affected by environmental selection (or sexual selection, which could be a factor for some traits like eye color). As these haplogroups overlap between different populations, they are used by most geneticists and anthropologists in the West to support the claim that human races have no biological foundation. However, if I'm not mistaken many Russian and Chinese scholars still accept the concept of human races, and so generally do forensic anthropologists. Of course, as we all know, in the West ideology permeates the debate on race. This is what happens when a researcher steps out of the line:
https://quillette.com/2018/12/07/aca...-be-denounced/

[Rocinante]

Haplogroup mappings have to be viewed collectively, not individually. It doesn't work from that point of view. Also, if there is an autosomal mapping, the haplogroup mapping must be directly ruled out.

[Slavic Italian]

H1 is as boring as chalk.

Not for these Germanic fanboys that make up much of the forum.

[Rocinante]

Not for these Germanic fanboys that make up much of the forum.

May i ask why the hate (thumbs down)?

[Badr madani]

So how do i know if my anscestor are weither arabs or berbers if not by haplogroup ?

[Longbowman]

So how do i know if my anscestor are weither arabs or berbers if not by haplogroup ?

You're Moroccan? They were Berbers. There, sorted.

Haplogroup tells you nothing. Yesterday I saw an Armenian with Irish YDNA. Does it make him Irish by the standards of the Armenians or the Irish? No.

[Badr madani]

You're Moroccan? They were Berbers. There, sorted.

Haplogroup tells you nothing. Yesterday I saw an Armenian with Irish YDNA. Does it make him Irish by the standards of the Armenians or the Irish? No.

So this banu hilal expansion is just a myth ?