The Genomic History Of Southeastern Europe

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Originally Posted by Ali Pasha Tepelena

Btw big boss, those ydna's are also found in greeks and tosks and for sure not anymore gheg but one thing for sure most of you south plotting and high greek scoring did not come from those parts of the balkans , they plot nowhere even close to you.

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Nah man, I'm Ancient Greek + Illyrian. I probably have the Ancient J2b2-L283 clade, forefather of your clades.

Fustan theorizes that I have the ancestral J2b2-L283 clade because I'm an Ancient beast.

^This is the real deal.

I am dissapointed because there isn't any gedmatch sample of ancient J2b2 Dalmatian and R1b L23 Vučedol man.
Entire mystery of pre-Slavic population of the area could be solved if we saw their autosomal reusults (it is known they were steppe admixed, but not as much as other Europeans). So it could mean that even in proto Illyrian times population was largerly desndended from pre Indo-European natives joined with steppe elite invaders.

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Originally Posted by Feiichy

I am dissapointed because there isn't any gedmatch sample of ancient J2b2 Dalmatian and R1b L23 Vučedol man.
Entire mystery of pre-Slavic population of the area could be solved if we saw their autosomal reusults (it is known they were steppe admixed, but not as much as other Europeans). So it could mean that even in proto Illyrian times population was largerly desndended from pre Indo-European natives joined with steppe elite invaders.

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Yeahhhhhh. What the fuck is up with these reluctant geneticists keeping vital information away from the hungry crowd?

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Originally Posted by Big Boss

Yeah. What the fuck is up with these reluctant scientists keeping vital information away from the hungry crowd?

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Can't understand why they aren't available on gedmatch. Polish samples came out few days ago and we already have their autosomal.
Seems south-eastern Europe is totally neglected when it comes to autosomal samples. I didn't even see proper Thracian sample yet people talk often about.

I wonder if we can ask some of the guys that have convertable software to run this samples on gedmatch if they are available in the research paper.

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Originally Posted by Feiichy

Can't understand why they aren't available on gedmatch. Polish samples came out few days ago and we already have their autosomal.
Seems south-eastern Europe is totally neglected when it comes to autosomal samples. I didn't even see proper Thracian sample yet people talk often about.

I wonder if we can ask some of the guys that have convertable software to run this samples on gedmatch if they are available in the research paper.

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I have a feeling Ancient Greek results will be even more difficult to get info from.

This is important to me as I have a great deal of Ancient Greek ancestry as evident from my Autosomal results, be it Ancient Doric/Epirotean.

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Originally Posted by Big Boss

I have a feeling Ancient Greek results will be even more difficult to get info from.
This is important to me as I have a great deal of Ancient Greek ancestry as evident from my Autosomal results, be it Ancient Doric/Epirotean.

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It is indeed strange how we don't have single ancient Greek sample yet, and they were most important classical civilisation togheder with Romans.

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Originally Posted by Feiichy

It is indeed strange how we don't have single ancient Greek sample yet, and they were most important classical civilisation togheder with Romans.

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Maybe these SE European samples exist, but researchers are unwilling to release them to the public for some reason? (conspiracy theory)

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Originally Posted by The Destroyer

Maybe these SE European samples exist, but researchers are unwilling to release them to the public for some reason? (conspiracy theory)

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We don't know the reasons. Southeastern Europe is seriously under sampled area and that shouldn't be the case. For example in case of Bosnia there are many Illyrian sites from where DNA can be extracted and we can finally know the truth.
But maybe it is matter of money for all these countries.

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Originally Posted by Big Boss

I'm an Ancient beast.

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