Macedonian Gedmatch kits

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Originally Posted by vbnetkhio

ok, that's why i heckin asked you. how could i have known that? i assumed maybe the first kit should removed, and the rest can be added to the Northwest Macedonian average. i didn't know they were that bad.

I have 5 Northwest kits , no more than 23 Baltic almost all are with 22 and one 19.
Skopje kits no more than 24 , and Serbo-Macedonian kits from Skopje with 25-26, also i have from Kumanovo my friend half Serbian with 27, me half serbian 26.
I will not put in average Serbo-Macedonians,just for record just full Macedonians, also these guys are recognized theirselfs like Serbs even they are half Macedonians.
Just to make you clear, these Serbo-Macedonians clustering with Southeast Serbs.
If you dont have fully ethnical Macedonians with informations, dont post,fully Macedonian kits from any region are not even close to Serbian.
Dont get me wrong.

Edit : Regions like Skopje and Kumanovo have assimilated many Serbs thats not pure regions but mostly of these mixed guys recognized theirselfs like Serbs not Macedonians.
*Please i dont want to ruin this thread with more discussion.This is for Macedonian gedmatch KITs.
Thanks!

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Originally Posted by JohnnyP

Full Macedonian from Kumanovo (most North part of Country) - K13 Eurogenes reference Macedonian_North.

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Population North_Atlantic 20.21 Pct Baltic 24.00 Pct West_Med 21.25 Pct West_Asian 10.02 Pct East_Med 21.18 Pct Red_Sea 2.53 Pct South_Asian - East_Asian 0.81 Pct Siberian - Amerindian - Oceanian - Northeast_African - Sub-Saharan -

This guy has typical Bulgarian results, higher Baltic and lower North Atlantic. Are these typical results for the North, Kumanovo and Kriva Palanka?

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Originally Posted by Lioncourt

This guy has typical Bulgarian results, higher Baltic and lower North Atlantic. Are these typical results for the North, Kumanovo and Kriva Palanka?

I doont have many from full ethnic Macedonians from Kumanovo , i have from region close to Kumanovo and from Northeast Village German.
Region Vratnica close to Kumanovo

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Population North_Atlantic 20.69 Pct Baltic 22.74 Pct West_Med 19.55 Pct West_Asian 8.65 Pct East_Med 25.35 Pct Red_Sea 0.91 Pct South_Asian - East_Asian - Siberian 0.90 Pct Amerindian 0.67 Pct Oceanian 0.30 Pct Northeast_African - Sub-Saharan 0.24 Pct

Village German close to Kratovo

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Population North_Atlantic 22.42 Pct Baltic 22.28 Pct West_Med 18.15 Pct West_Asian 8.99 Pct East_Med 25.37 Pct Red_Sea 0.38 Pct South_Asian - East_Asian 0.95 Pct Siberian - Amerindian 0.73 Pct Oceanian 0.73 Pct Northeast_African - Sub-Saharan -

Isn it Bulgarians score low West Med and higher West Asian than Macedonians ?

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Originally Posted by JohnnyP

I doont have many from full ethnic Macedonians from Kumanovo , i have from region close to Kumanovo and from Northeast Village German.
Region Vratnica close to Kumanovo

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Population North_Atlantic 20.69 Pct Baltic 22.74 Pct West_Med 19.55 Pct West_Asian 8.65 Pct East_Med 25.35 Pct Red_Sea 0.91 Pct South_Asian - East_Asian - Siberian 0.90 Pct Amerindian 0.67 Pct Oceanian 0.30 Pct Northeast_African - Sub-Saharan 0.24 Pct

Village German close to Kratovo

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Population North_Atlantic 22.42 Pct Baltic 22.28 Pct West_Med 18.15 Pct West_Asian 8.99 Pct East_Med 25.37 Pct Red_Sea 0.38 Pct South_Asian - East_Asian 0.95 Pct Siberian - Amerindian 0.73 Pct Oceanian 0.73 Pct Northeast_African - Sub-Saharan -

Isn it Bulgarians score low West Med and higher West Asian than Macedonians ?

Yes, and also lower East Med.

These two have higher East Med and lower West Asian thaan any Bulgarian I have seen.

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Originally Posted by Lioncourt

Yes, and also lower East Med.

These two have higher East Med and lower West Asian thaan any Bulgarian I have seen.

Yeah these two results are pretty much same , one is from Northwest one from Northeast :D

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A964713 - Zhelevo - Gorno Vrbeni (Northwest Greece) M737359 - Zhelevo - Gorno Vrbeni (Northwest Greece) - I2a2 T392632 - Zhelevo(Northwest Greece) - Prilep. XK5081727 M055584 - Veles - EV-13 M517367 - Veles T308882 - Skopje. H414329 - Tetovo A735427 A872089 T130034 - Tetovo NB2171591 - Florina - Skopje ET3431273 - Florina - Skopje

K15 PCA
https://i.imgur.com/w1hstvu.jpg

K13 Population

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A964713 - Zhelevo - Gorno Vrbeni (Northwest Greece) North_Atlantic 20.55 Pct Baltic 23.19 Pct West_Med 20.18 Pct West_Asian 10.94 Pct East_Med 21.36 Pct Red_Sea 2.44 Pct South_Asian - East_Asian - Siberian 0.71 Pct Amerindian 0.31 Pct Oceanian - Northeast_African - Sub-Saharan 0.32 Pct M737359 - Zhelevo - Gorno Vrbeni (Northwest Greece) - I2a2 North_Atlantic 22.02 Pct Baltic 21.71 Pct West_Med 21.32 Pct West_Asian 9.84 Pct East_Med 21.69 Pct Red_Sea 2.18 Pct South_Asian - East_Asian 0.43 Pct Siberian 0.11 Pct Amerindian 0.70 Pct Oceanian - Northeast_African - Sub-Saharan - T392632 - Zhelevo(Northwest Greece) - Prilep. North_Atlantic 21.83 Pct Baltic 20.04 Pct West_Med 23.42 Pct West_Asian 12.14 Pct East_Med 17.98 Pct Red_Sea 2.16 Pct South_Asian 0.06 Pct East_Asian 0.65 Pct Siberian 0.08 Pct Amerindian 0.30 Pct Oceanian 0.97 Pct Northeast_African - Sub-Saharan 0.36 Pct XK5081727 North_Atlantic 23.01 Pct Baltic 21.19 Pct West_Med 19.89 Pct West_Asian 9.14 Pct East_Med 24.69 Pct Red_Sea 0.98 Pct South_Asian - East_Asian 0.85 Pct Siberian - Amerindian 0.27 Pct Oceanian - Northeast_African - Sub-Saharan - M055584 - Veles - EV-13 North_Atlantic 20.74 Pct Baltic 23.68 Pct West_Med 18.62 Pct West_Asian 13.68 Pct East_Med 20.18 Pct Red_Sea 0.34 Pct South_Asian - East_Asian 0.58 Pct Siberian 0.93 Pct Amerindian - Oceanian 1.25 Pct Northeast_African - Sub-Saharan - M517367 - Veles North_Atlantic 23.34 Pct Baltic 19.96 Pct West_Med 20.68 Pct West_Asian 12.16 Pct East_Med 20.73 Pct Red_Sea 1.73 Pct South_Asian - East_Asian - Siberian 0.27 Pct Amerindian 0.07 Pct Oceanian 1.05 Pct Northeast_African - Sub-Saharan - T308882 - Skopje. North_Atlantic 20.76 Pct Baltic 24.41 Pct West_Med 19.04 Pct West_Asian 9.91 Pct East_Med 19.38 Pct Red_Sea 4.89 Pct South_Asian - East_Asian 0.06 Pct Siberian - Amerindian 0.70 Pct Oceanian 0.86 Pct Northeast_African - Sub-Saharan - H414329 - Tetovo North_Atlantic 22.37 Pct Baltic 24.61 Pct West_Med 17.96 Pct West_Asian 12.79 Pct East_Med 17.02 Pct Red_Sea 4.02 Pct South_Asian - East_Asian 0.28 Pct Siberian - Amerindian - Oceanian 0.57 Pct Northeast_African - Sub-Saharan 0.37 Pct A735427 North_Atlantic 22.39 Pct Baltic 19.09 Pct West_Med 20.37 Pct West_Asian 11.30 Pct East_Med 22.76 Pct Red_Sea 2.82 Pct South_Asian - East_Asian - Siberian 0.81 Pct Amerindian 0.46 Pct Oceanian - Northeast_African - Sub-Saharan - A872089 North_Atlantic 17.12 Pct Baltic 21.26 Pct West_Med 23.19 Pct West_Asian 13.10 Pct East_Med 20.69 Pct Red_Sea 2.95 Pct South_Asian - East_Asian - Siberian 0.87 Pct Amerindian 0.71 Pct Oceanian - Northeast_African - Sub-Saharan 0.09 Pct T130034 - Tetovo North_Atlantic 24.32 Pct Baltic 19.78 Pct West_Med 19.27 Pct West_Asian 11.46 Pct East_Med 21.06 Pct Red_Sea 2.55 Pct South_Asian 0.31 Pct East_Asian - Siberian - Amerindian - Oceanian 1.25 Pct Northeast_African - Sub-Saharan - NB2171591 - Florina - Skopje North_Atlantic 21.99 Pct Baltic 21.43 Pct West_Med 18.89 Pct West_Asian 9.32 Pct East_Med 24.39 Pct Red_Sea 2.60 Pct South_Asian - East_Asian - Siberian 0.65 Pct Amerindian 0.68 Pct Oceanian 0.05 Pct Northeast_African - Sub-Saharan - ET3431273 - Florina - Skopje North_Atlantic 25.16 Pct Baltic 20.40 Pct West_Med 16.41 Pct West_Asian 8.82 Pct East_Med 26.46 Pct Red_Sea 1.98 Pct South_Asian - East_Asian - Siberian - Amerindian 0.54 Pct Oceanian 0.21 Pct Northeast_African - Sub-Saharan -

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Originally Posted by bained

Samples Hemus, Struma and Maritza (Grandparents from Kaloyanovo) are from Hisarya also. All Orthodox.
Gaida, Maritza and Iskar are all V-13 if someone cares about that.

Very interesting. Struma is maybe the most western ploting Bulgarian I've seen. Hemus as well is more western than average.

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Originally Posted by JohnnyP

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A964713 - Zhelevo - Gorno Vrbeni (Northwest Greece) M737359 - Zhelevo - Gorno Vrbeni (Northwest Greece) - I2a2 T392632 - Zhelevo(Northwest Greece) - Prilep. XK5081727 M055584 - Veles - EV-13 M517367 - Veles T308882 - Skopje. H414329 - Tetovo A735427 A872089 T130034 - Tetovo NB2171591 - Florina - Skopje ET3431273 - Florina - Skopje

K15 PCA
https://i.imgur.com/w1hstvu.jpg

K13 Population

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A964713 - Zhelevo - Gorno Vrbeni (Northwest Greece) North_Atlantic 20.55 Pct Baltic 23.19 Pct West_Med 20.18 Pct West_Asian 10.94 Pct East_Med 21.36 Pct Red_Sea 2.44 Pct South_Asian - East_Asian - Siberian 0.71 Pct Amerindian 0.31 Pct Oceanian - Northeast_African - Sub-Saharan 0.32 Pct M737359 - Zhelevo - Gorno Vrbeni (Northwest Greece) - I2a2 North_Atlantic 22.02 Pct Baltic 21.71 Pct West_Med 21.32 Pct West_Asian 9.84 Pct East_Med 21.69 Pct Red_Sea 2.18 Pct South_Asian - East_Asian 0.43 Pct Siberian 0.11 Pct Amerindian 0.70 Pct Oceanian - Northeast_African - Sub-Saharan - T392632 - Zhelevo(Northwest Greece) - Prilep. North_Atlantic 21.83 Pct Baltic 20.04 Pct West_Med 23.42 Pct West_Asian 12.14 Pct East_Med 17.98 Pct Red_Sea 2.16 Pct South_Asian 0.06 Pct East_Asian 0.65 Pct Siberian 0.08 Pct Amerindian 0.30 Pct Oceanian 0.97 Pct Northeast_African - Sub-Saharan 0.36 Pct XK5081727 North_Atlantic 23.01 Pct Baltic 21.19 Pct West_Med 19.89 Pct West_Asian 9.14 Pct East_Med 24.69 Pct Red_Sea 0.98 Pct South_Asian - East_Asian 0.85 Pct Siberian - Amerindian 0.27 Pct Oceanian - Northeast_African - Sub-Saharan - M055584 - Veles - EV-13 North_Atlantic 20.74 Pct Baltic 23.68 Pct West_Med 18.62 Pct West_Asian 13.68 Pct East_Med 20.18 Pct Red_Sea 0.34 Pct South_Asian - East_Asian 0.58 Pct Siberian 0.93 Pct Amerindian - Oceanian 1.25 Pct Northeast_African - Sub-Saharan - M517367 - Veles North_Atlantic 23.34 Pct Baltic 19.96 Pct West_Med 20.68 Pct West_Asian 12.16 Pct East_Med 20.73 Pct Red_Sea 1.73 Pct South_Asian - East_Asian - Siberian 0.27 Pct Amerindian 0.07 Pct Oceanian 1.05 Pct Northeast_African - Sub-Saharan - T308882 - Skopje. North_Atlantic 20.76 Pct Baltic 24.41 Pct West_Med 19.04 Pct West_Asian 9.91 Pct East_Med 19.38 Pct Red_Sea 4.89 Pct South_Asian - East_Asian 0.06 Pct Siberian - Amerindian 0.70 Pct Oceanian 0.86 Pct Northeast_African - Sub-Saharan - H414329 - Tetovo North_Atlantic 22.37 Pct Baltic 24.61 Pct West_Med 17.96 Pct West_Asian 12.79 Pct East_Med 17.02 Pct Red_Sea 4.02 Pct South_Asian - East_Asian 0.28 Pct Siberian - Amerindian - Oceanian 0.57 Pct Northeast_African - Sub-Saharan 0.37 Pct A735427 North_Atlantic 22.39 Pct Baltic 19.09 Pct West_Med 20.37 Pct West_Asian 11.30 Pct East_Med 22.76 Pct Red_Sea 2.82 Pct South_Asian - East_Asian - Siberian 0.81 Pct Amerindian 0.46 Pct Oceanian - Northeast_African - Sub-Saharan - A872089 North_Atlantic 17.12 Pct Baltic 21.26 Pct West_Med 23.19 Pct West_Asian 13.10 Pct East_Med 20.69 Pct Red_Sea 2.95 Pct South_Asian - East_Asian - Siberian 0.87 Pct Amerindian 0.71 Pct Oceanian - Northeast_African - Sub-Saharan 0.09 Pct T130034 - Tetovo North_Atlantic 24.32 Pct Baltic 19.78 Pct West_Med 19.27 Pct West_Asian 11.46 Pct East_Med 21.06 Pct Red_Sea 2.55 Pct South_Asian 0.31 Pct East_Asian - Siberian - Amerindian - Oceanian 1.25 Pct Northeast_African - Sub-Saharan - NB2171591 - Florina - Skopje North_Atlantic 21.99 Pct Baltic 21.43 Pct West_Med 18.89 Pct West_Asian 9.32 Pct East_Med 24.39 Pct Red_Sea 2.60 Pct South_Asian - East_Asian - Siberian 0.65 Pct Amerindian 0.68 Pct Oceanian 0.05 Pct Northeast_African - Sub-Saharan - ET3431273 - Florina - Skopje North_Atlantic 25.16 Pct Baltic 20.40 Pct West_Med 16.41 Pct West_Asian 8.82 Pct East_Med 26.46 Pct Red_Sea 1.98 Pct South_Asian - East_Asian - Siberian - Amerindian 0.54 Pct Oceanian 0.21 Pct Northeast_African - Sub-Saharan -

Who's the one sitting to the closest left hand side of the Bulgarian average, just above the 'B'? That person is literally smack bang on my position.

And are the Skopje - Florina samples people with ancestry from Lerin?

can you rank these groups in order according to who is genetically closest to slavophone Macedonians?

Bulgarians
Macedonian Greeks
Aromanians/Vlachs
SE Serbs
Albanians
Wallachian/Dobrogean Romanians

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Originally Posted by Est.1992

can you rank these groups in order according to who is genetically closest to slavophone Macedonians?

Bulgarians
Macedonian Greeks
Aromanians/Vlachs
SE Serbs
Albanians

I'd guess North Greeks of Slavic Macedonian ancestry (Grkomani) are closest. But ill leave it to the boss here.

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