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Well Irish people generally get populations such as West Scots, Orcadian, North Dutch, Norwegian in their results whereas English are likely to get these and also some more southern populations in their results such as French, South Dutch etc. It is basically geographic. Irish are a bit more northern shifted than the English. Look at anyone's results and you will find the countries popping up reflect neighbouring populations.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gooding
Yes, I can see that the English get readings that tend to shift southward as well as North on these tests. They tend to get things such as French, West and Central German and such on their scores as well..Quote:
Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley
EUtest:
EUtest 4-Ancestors Oracle
This program is based on 4-Ancestors Oracle Version 0.96 by Alexandr Burnashev.
Questions about results should be sent to him at: Alexandr.Burnashev@gmail.com
Original concept proposed by Sergey Kozlov.
Many thanks to Alexandr for helping us get this web version developed.
EUtest Oracle population reference data revised 06 Nov 2012.
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 39.36
2 MIDDLE_EASTERN 21.15
3 WEST_ASIAN 17.35
4 WEST_MED 10.07
5 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 3.63
6 SOUTH_ASIAN 3.07
7 EAST_AFRICAN 2.51
8 ATLANTIC 1.75
Finished reading population data. 78 populations found.
13 components mode.
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Least-squares method.
Using 1 population approximation:
1 IQ @ 9.162752
2 Samaritan @ 10.983739
3 Mandean @ 12.488782
4 Assyrian @ 14.159765
5 Druze @ 16.803335
6 AJ @ 20.154655
7 Armenian @ 20.240965
8 TR @ 20.292292
9 GR @ 20.674223
10 South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 21.232473
11 Kurdish @ 22.351469
12 IR @ 23.565229
13 Algerian @ 34.538372
14 Tuscan @ 34.577129
15 Moroccan @ 39.548374
16 GE @ 39.652092
17 North_Italian @ 40.173790
18 RO @ 40.759010
19 Bedouin @ 42.090305
20 Serbian @ 42.668037
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% IQ +50% Samaritan @ 6.359533
Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% IQ +25% Samaritan +25% South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 4.274845
Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Algerian + Druze + Mandean + Mandean @ 3.153927
2 Algerian + Assyrian + Druze + Mandean @ 3.280722
3 IQ + Mandean + Samaritan + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 3.664869
4 IQ + Samaritan + Samaritan + TR @ 3.833195
5 Druze + Mandean + Mandean + Moroccan @ 3.969923
6 Algerian + Assyrian + Assyrian + Druze @ 3.979362
7 AJ + Mandean + Samaritan + Samaritan @ 4.105187
8 GR + IQ + IQ + Samaritan @ 4.200586
9 IQ + IQ + Samaritan + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 4.274845
10 Assyrian + IQ + Samaritan + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 4.288413
11 AJ + IQ + Mandean + Samaritan @ 4.290960
12 GR + IQ + Mandean + Samaritan @ 4.303035
13 Algerian + Assyrian + Druze + IQ @ 4.361559
14 Mandean + Samaritan + Samaritan + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 4.396386
15 AJ + Assyrian + Samaritan + Samaritan @ 4.439821
16 AJ + Assyrian + IQ + Samaritan @ 4.478529
17 Algerian + Armenian + Druze + Mandean @ 4.479315
18 Armenian + Bedouin + Druze + GR @ 4.539593
19 Assyrian + Druze + Mandean + Moroccan @ 4.571133
20 Algerian + Druze + Kurdish + Samaritan @ 4.642819
Jtest:
Jtest 4-Ancestors Oracle
This program is based on 4-Ancestors Oracle Version 0.96 by Alexandr Burnashev.
Questions about results should be sent to him at: Alexandr.Burnashev@gmail.com
Original concept proposed by Sergey Kozlov.
Many thanks to Alexandr for helping us get this web version developed.
Jtest Oracle population reference data revised 06 Nov 2012.
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 37.86
2 MIDDLE_EASTERN 20.16
3 WEST_ASIAN 16.48
4 WEST_MED 9.35
5 ASHKENAZI 5.79
6 SOUTH_ASIAN 3.05
7 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 3.03
8 EAST_AFRICAN 2.40
Finished reading population data. 78 populations found.
14 components mode.
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Least-squares method.
Using 1 population approximation:
1 IQ @ 9.036242
2 Samaritan @ 10.631749
3 Mandean @ 12.283883
4 Assyrian @ 14.162012
5 Druze @ 16.881546
6 TR @ 20.019768
7 Armenian @ 20.325636
8 GR @ 20.854652
9 South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 21.452969
10 Kurdish @ 22.171505
11 IR @ 23.337337
12 AJ @ 33.862679
13 Algerian @ 34.521378
14 Tuscan @ 34.832615
15 GE @ 39.569893
16 Moroccan @ 39.832100
17 North_Italian @ 40.269737
18 RO @ 40.605133
19 Bedouin @ 42.347263
20 Serbian @ 42.383530
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Mandean +50% Samaritan @ 6.080221
Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% IQ +25% Samaritan +25% South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 4.444737
Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Algerian + Druze + Mandean + Mandean @ 3.097530
2 Algerian + Assyrian + Druze + Mandean @ 3.306703
3 IQ + Samaritan + Samaritan + TR @ 3.523220
4 IQ + Mandean + Samaritan + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 3.805326
5 Algerian + Assyrian + Assyrian + Druze @ 4.076247
6 Mandean + Samaritan + Samaritan + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 4.132244
7 GR + IQ + IQ + Samaritan @ 4.153470
8 GR + IQ + Mandean + Samaritan @ 4.191198
9 Druze + Mandean + Mandean + Moroccan @ 4.198832
10 Algerian + Assyrian + Druze + IQ @ 4.250764
11 Armenian + IQ + Samaritan + Samaritan @ 4.343150
12 Assyrian + IQ + Samaritan + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 4.424001
13 IQ + IQ + Samaritan + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 4.444737
14 Algerian + Druze + Kurdish + Samaritan @ 4.522501
15 Armenian + Bedouin + Druze + GR @ 4.560217
16 Algerian + Armenian + Druze + Mandean @ 4.646822
17 GR + Mandean + Samaritan + Samaritan @ 4.654131
18 Druze + IQ + IQ + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 4.663242
19 Algerian + Druze + IQ + Mandean @ 4.679577
20 GR + IQ + Samaritan + Samaritan @ 4.680312
The English are closer to the Continent and have also had more interactions with European populations whereas the Irish were a bit more isolated and the people they have had more involvement with are the Scots, English, Welsh and possibly the Norse. Most population movements to Ireland have been via Britain. Even the Normans that came to Ireland where already in Britain for about 100 years before they came to Ireland.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gooding
EUtest Oracle results:
EUtest Oracle population reference data revised 06 Nov 2012.
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 25.92
2 ATLANTIC 17.51
3 EAST_EURO 14.8
4 SOUTH_BALTIC 13.1
5 WEST_MED 10.46
6 EAST_MED 7.97
7 WEST_ASIAN 6.09
8 MIDDLE_EASTERN 2.02
9 EAST_ASIAN 1.15
10 SIBERIAN 1
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 West_&_Central_German 7.48
2 AT 7.8
3 NL 8.65
4 DK 10.11
5 English 10.57
6 NO 10.58
7 South_&_Central_Swedish 10.61
8 North_Swedish 11.32
9 HU 11.54
10 Serbian 11.75
11 Cornish 12.05
12 Orcadian 12.44
13 IE 13.23
14 FR 13.63
15 Scottish 14.69
16 RO 15.91
17 South_Finnish 17.25
18 PL 18.15
19 PT 18.63
20 UA 19.3
# Primary Population (source)
1 73.8% North_Swedish + @ 3.89
2 67.8% North_Swedish + @ 4.02
3 73.9% NO + @ 4.03
4 73.8% South_&_Central_Swedish + @ 4.04
5 76.1% NO + @ 4.12
6 74.7% North_Swedish + @ 4.14
7 82.6% NO + @ 4.15
8 76.1% South_&_Central_Swedish + @ 4.18
9 79.9% NO + @ 4.28
10 54.4% DK + @ 4.3
11 82.6% South_&_Central_Swedish + @ 4.35
12 53.1% NO + @ 4.36
13 83.2% NO + @ 4.38
14 83.9% NO + @ 4.39
15 83.9% NO + @ 4.4
16 79.9% South_&_Central_Swedish + @ 4.42
17 82.6% NO + @ 4.47
18 75.6% South_&_Central_Swedish + @ 4.48
19 72.6% North_Swedish + @ 4.49
20 84% South_&_Central_Swedish + @ 4.53
Jtest:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 ATLANTIC 24.06
2 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 23.38
3 SOUTH_BALTIC 15.24
4 EAST_EURO 11.83
5 WEST_MED 9.05
6 EAST_MED 6.98
7 ASHKENAZI 4.36
8 WEST_ASIAN 3.83
Finished reading population data. 78 populations found.
14 components mode.
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Least-squares method.
Using 1 population approximation:
1 West_&_Central_German @ 4.591086
2 NL @ 6.321703
3 AT @ 6.753422
4 Cornish @ 8.429641
5 English @ 8.557437
6 Orcadian @ 9.284987
7 DK @ 9.486963
8 IE @ 10.382249
9 South_&_Central_Swedish @ 10.588728
10 NO @ 10.632886
11 Scottish @ 11.015277
12 FR @ 11.989739
13 HU @ 13.039917
14 North_Swedish @ 13.082112
15 Serbian @ 15.472438
16 RO @ 18.892090
17 PT @ 19.044798
18 South_Finnish @ 19.746531
19 ES @ 19.943798
20 PL @ 20.487965
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% AT +50% Orcadian @ 2.925617
Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% AT +25% Scottish +25% West_&_Central_German @ 2.145021
Using 4 populations approximation:
1 AT + AT + Scottish + West_&_Central_German @ 2.145021
2 AT + Scottish + Scottish + Serbian @ 2.193395
3 AT + English + Scottish + Serbian @ 2.262707
4 AT + Orcadian + Scottish + Serbian @ 2.285403
5 DK + RO + Scottish + West_&_Central_German @ 2.296703
6 RO + Scottish + West_&_Central_German + West_&_Central_German @ 2.387178
7 EE + Scottish + Scottish + Tuscan @ 2.440919
8 AT + DK + Scottish + Serbian @ 2.442368
9 AT + Cornish + Scottish + Serbian @ 2.462445
10 NL + RO + Scottish + West_&_Central_German @ 2.467137
11 RO + Scottish + South_&_Central_Swedish + West_&_Central_German @ 2.483586
12 Scottish + Serbian + West_&_Central_German + West_&_Central_German @ 2.483603
13 AT + AT + Orcadian + West_&_Central_German @ 2.486096
14 AT + AT + NL + Scottish @ 2.491413
I don't think i ever posted oracle for both runs, so here it is
EU Test
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Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 ATLANTIC 23.67
2 WEST_MED 21.91
3 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 17.44
4 EAST_MED 11.66
5 SOUTH_BALTIC 8.66
6 MIDDLE_EASTERN 5.09
7 EAST_EURO 4.5
8 WEST_ASIAN 4.05
9 EAST_AFRICAN 2.32
10 WEST_AFRICAN 0.7
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 PT 3.63
2 ES 4.84
3 North_Italian 7.41
4 FR 8.04
5 Tuscan 12.59
6 AT 15.61
7 Cornish 16.71
8 West_&_Central_German 17.07
9 NL 17.43
10 RO 17.55
11 Serbian 17.67
12 English 17.99
13 HU 18.78
14 French_Basque 18.93
15 Orcadian 19.53
16 IE 19.58
17 Scottish 20.62
18 DK 21.06
19 South_Italian_&_Sicilian 22.6
20 NO 22.9
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 94.9% PT + 5.1% Lezgin @ 2.71
2 88.3% PT + 11.7% RO @ 2.82
3 95.7% PT + 4.3% GE @ 2.83
4 75.9% PT + 24.1% North_Italian @ 2.92
5 92.1% ES + 7.9% Lezgin @ 2.96
6 90.1% PT + 9.9% HU @ 3.01
7 82% ES + 18% RO @ 3.01
8 90.2% PT + 9.8% Serbian @ 3.11
9 93.2% ES + 6.8% GE @ 3.14
10 96.9% PT + 3.1% Kalash @ 3.17
11 82.7% ES + 17.3% Serbian @ 3.19
12 94.8% PT + 5.2% West_Russian @ 3.19
13 95.6% PT + 4.4% TR @ 3.2
14 94.9% PT + 5.1% Ukrainian-Russian @ 3.21
15 90% PT + 10% AT @ 3.21
16 95.7% PT + 4.3% Erzya @ 3.22
17 94.7% PT + 5.3% UA @ 3.22
18 96.9% PT + 3.1% Brahui @ 3.23
19 97% PT + 3% Balochi @ 3.23
20 96.3% PT + 3.7% Armenian @ 3.23
J Test
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Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 ATLANTIC 22.69
2 WEST_MED 20.97
3 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 16.98
4 EAST_MED 9.82
5 SOUTH_BALTIC 8.56
6 ASHKENAZI 7.24
7 EAST_EURO 3.99
8 MIDDLE_EASTERN 3.86
9 WEST_ASIAN 2.95
10 EAST_AFRICAN 2.24
11 WEST_AFRICAN 0.69
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 PT 3.81
2 ES 5.13
3 North_Italian 7.64
4 FR 8.11
5 Tuscan 12.52
6 AT 15.49
7 Cornish 16.67
8 West_&_Central_German 17.07
9 NL 17.38
10 RO 17.49
11 Serbian 17.73
12 English 17.94
13 HU 18.68
14 French_Basque 19.15
15 Orcadian 19.49
16 IE 19.58
17 Scottish 20.47
18 DK 20.9
19 South_Italian_&_Sicilian 22.34
20 NO 22.72
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 88.4% PT + 11.6% RO @ 3.08
2 95.6% PT + 4.4% Lezgin @ 3.22
3 90.2% PT + 9.8% HU @ 3.25
4 96.3% PT + 3.7% GE @ 3.28
5 78.3% PT + 21.7% North_Italian @ 3.3
6 94.1% PT + 5.9% AJ @ 3.34
7 90.8% PT + 9.2% Serbian @ 3.39
8 94.7% PT + 5.3% West_Russian @ 3.39
9 94.8% PT + 5.2% Ukrainian-Russian @ 3.4
10 89.8% PT + 10.2% AT @ 3.41
11 95.7% PT + 4.3% Erzya @ 3.43
12 94.8% PT + 5.2% UA @ 3.44
13 81.8% ES + 18.2% RO @ 3.44
14 94.7% PT + 5.3% PL @ 3.45
15 95.8% PT + 4.2% Northwest_Russian @ 3.47
16 97.3% PT + 2.7% Kalash @ 3.48
17 95.6% PT + 4.4% East_Russian @ 3.48
18 96.2% PT + 3.8% LIT @ 3.5
19 95.8% PT + 4.2% Belorussian @ 3.52
20 88.8% ES + 11.2% AJ @ 3.52
I forgot Jtest last time. Since the 4pop is the same than EUtest i tried the mixed mode. It still bugs me why this mode acts totally retarded for some and once in a while it makes sense, there s no consistency with it. For me it's like the algo can't decide if he should take a more Northern pop and add the West med peek aka Sardinia or France and add some "HG" pop.
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 25.64
2 ATLANTIC 22.03
3 WEST_MED 19.74
4 SOUTH_BALTIC 9.77
5 EAST_EURO 9.01
6 EAST_MED 7.03
7 ASHKENAZI 3.86
8 WEST_ASIAN 2.37
Least-squares method.
Using 1 population approximation:
1 FR @ 5.578733
2 NL @ 11.165192
3 West_&_Central_German @ 11.316759
4 PT @ 11.465560
5 English @ 11.759082
6 Cornish @ 11.776446
7 ES @ 12.375797
8 AT @ 13.733912
9 DK @ 14.749639
10 Orcadian @ 14.842762
11 IE @ 15.131328
12 North_Italian @ 16.435959
13 Scottish @ 16.779715
14 NO @ 16.821224
15 South_&_Central_Swedish @ 17.515911
16 HU @ 19.069586
17 Serbian @ 19.597986
18 North_Swedish @ 21.038992
19 Tuscan @ 21.121128
20 RO @ 22.036800
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 79.5% English + 20.5% Sardinian @ 2.46
2 80.3% NL + 19.7% Sardinian @ 2.57
3 80.1% West_&_Central_German + 19.9% Sardinian @ 2.9
4 75.6% DK + 24.4% Sardinian @ 3.08
5 73.3% NO + 26.7% Sardinian @ 4.23
6 89.5% FR + 10.5% NO @ 4.58
7 88.3% FR + 11.7% DK @ 4.59
8 90.4% FR + 9.6% South_&_Central_Swedish @ 4.61
9 92% FR + 8% North_Swedish @ 4.61
10 85.8% FR + 14.2% NL @ 4.65
11 72.5% South_&_Central_Swedish + 27.5% Sardinian @ 4.65
12 95.3% FR + 4.7% East_Finnish @ 4.66
13 94.8% FR + 5.2% South_Finnish @ 4.68
14 87.5% FR + 12.5% West_&_Central_German @ 4.7
15 96.6% FR + 3.4% Komi @ 4.7
16 95.9% FR + 4.1% East_Russian @ 4.7
17 96.3% FR + 3.7% North_Russian @ 4.71
18 88.3% FR + 11.7% English @ 4.71
19 80.9% Cornish + 19.1% Sardinian @ 4.73
20 96.3% FR + 3.7% Ukrainian-Russian @ 4.76
Can't see the difference between EU and Jtest but im posting it anyway :joy
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 24.4
2 ATLANTIC 23.98
3 SOUTH_BALTIC 16.21
4 WEST_MED 11.83
5 EAST_EURO 10.91
6 ASHKENAZI 4.88
7 WEST_ASIAN 4.14
8 EAST_MED 3.65
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 West_&_Central_German 3.79
2 NL 4.28
3 Cornish 6.09
4 English 6.22
5 AT 6.94
6 Orcadian 7.02
7 DK 7.63
8 IE 8.06
9 NO 8.31
10 South_&_Central_Swedish 8.38
11 Scottish 8.91
12 FR 9.69
13 North_Swedish 11.67
14 HU 12.05
15 Serbian 15.19
16 PT 16.66
17 ES 17.27
18 RO 17.85
19 South_Finnish 18.19
20 PL 18.44
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 66.9% English + 33.1% HU @ 2.08
2 67.7% Cornish + 32.3% HU @ 2.24
3 53.1% English + 46.9% AT @ 2.37
4 50.3% AT + 49.7% Orcadian @ 2.38
5 53.8% Cornish + 46.2% AT @ 2.39
6 77.3% NL + 22.7% HU @ 2.51
7 65.1% NL + 34.9% AT @ 2.52
8 54.3% AT + 45.7% IE @ 2.69
9 57.1% AT + 42.9% Scottish @ 2.77
10 64.6% Orcadian + 35.4% HU @ 2.83
11 85.3% NL + 14.7% RO @ 3.02
12 79% Cornish + 21% UA @ 3.02
13 73.4% West_&_Central_German + 26.6% AT @ 3.04
14 84% West_&_Central_German + 16% HU @ 3.07
15 70.6% South_&_Central_Swedish + 29.4% North_Italian @ 3.19
16 77.9% Cornish + 22.1% PL @ 3.25
17 80.8% Cornish + 19.2% Ukrainian-Russian @ 3.3
18 61.2% IE + 38.8% HU @ 3.32
19 77% English + 23% RO @ 3.35
20 88.2% NL + 11.8% UA @ 3.36
Similar results again, but the weird thing is, like usual, the relatively high level of Atlantic that I got... sometimes south-western English or Welsh pop up... I wonder why that is, as if I was a breton or some celtic remnant or something.Quote:
Originally Posted by Petalpusher
Jtest Oracle results:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 ATLANTIC 27.14
2 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 23.89
3 WEST_MED 13.5
4 SOUTH_BALTIC 9.87
5 EAST_MED 9.68
6 EAST_EURO 6.74
7 ASHKENAZI 5.26
8 WEST_ASIAN 3.15
9 SOUTH_ASIAN 0.41
10 MIDDLE_EASTERN 0.24
11 EAST_AFRICAN 0.13
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 FR 5.31
2 Cornish 7.94
3 West_&_Central_German 8.7
4 English 8.9
5 NL 8.98
6 Orcadian 10.57
7 IE 10.84
8 PT 11.23
9 Scottish 11.31
10 ES 11.55
11 AT 11.63
12 DK 12.31
13 North_Italian 14.26
14 NO 14.58
15 South_&_Central_Swedish 15.23
16 Serbian 16.96
17 HU 17.21
18 Tuscan 18.13
19 North_Swedish 18.45
20 RO 18.79
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 62.1% Scottish + 37.9% Tuscan @ 2.94
2 70.9% Cornish + 29.1% Tuscan @ 2.98
3 64.2% Orcadian + 35.8% Tuscan @ 3.64
4 66.3% Cornish + 33.7% North_Italian @ 3.75
5 56.3% Scottish + 43.7% North_Italian @ 3.78
6 63.6% IE + 36.4% Tuscan @ 3.87
7 63.2% English + 36.8% North_Italian @ 3.96
8 80.1% Cornish + 19.9% South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 3.97
9 81.4% Cornish + 18.6% GR @ 4.05
10 69.1% English + 30.9% Tuscan @ 4.09
11 58.4% Orcadian + 41.6% North_Italian @ 4.21
12 88.1% Cornish + 11.9% Druze @ 4.23
13 77.1% FR + 22.9% Scottish @ 4.3
14 57.8% IE + 42.2% North_Italian @ 4.41
15 71.7% FR + 28.3% West_&_Central_German @ 4.41
16 72.4% FR + 27.6% English @ 4.42
17 58.8% West_&_Central_German + 41.2% ES @ 4.44
18 76.9% FR + 23.1% Orcadian @ 4.47
19 69.6% FR + 30.4% Cornish @ 4.47
20 50.2% PT + 49.8% Scottish @ 4.5