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Spanish, English, Portuguese, French can be different too but nobody claims those are separate languages instead of dialects/accents/regional varieties. No way in hell the difference between Bucharest and Chisinau is greater than, say, between London and Dublin or Paris and Montreal.
why? I see him backing up all he says on history topics with strong citationsQuote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
And I also see insults towards a whole nation. This guy was already banned once under the name of artsi.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nurzat
Times are changing, alright, but the truth is eternal. All you can do is deceit for a while and gain some temporary ground.
In my CV I write in the same language that is used in the Constitution of Moldova - limba moldovenească.
The realities of romanian present and past, your looks, culture, language are insults to you? That is sad.
As for my age, you wrong as usual.
They are not insults to me, I'm just saying that with each passing day, Moldovan comes closer to being an archaism. Even my great-grandparents, who have only been to Romania with a rifle in hand during WW2, realised that it's the same thing. That's how outdated you are.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mik20
Ok, so lets be clear, you are a representative of the Romanian minority of Moldova. You are not moldovan and don't represent in any way, shape of form the moldovans, that are constitute the vast majority of the population of Moldova and they speak moldovan language. I am well aware what is happening in schools and media, and the impact that it had on the weaker segments of the youth. But that will have to change and it will change. The Romanian minority will have its own schools where they can learn Marin Preda, Caragiale, about Vlad the Impaler and so on, their own language and history, their own media. The moldavians will have their own schools where they will study Neculce, Creanga, Sadoveanu, Mateevici and learn about Bogdan, Stephen the Great and others moldovans that fought, lived and died for Moldova and their own media.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
This is the only proper way to do things right in Moldova.
That happenes when somebody has no arguments and character. Speaks a lot about this guy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nurzat
Moldova Highly ‘Vulnerable’ to Russian Propaganda, Study Says, starts on page 209:
http://prismua.org/wp-content/upload...I_CEE_2018.pdf
https://balkaninsight.com/2018/07/26...da-07-26-2018/
‘Compared to Ukraine, the Republic of Moldova presents a worse political
situation in the relationship with pro-Kremlin propaganda. The Ukrainians
have banned the pro-Russia Regions Party, and we still have the Socialists
Party. Together with President Igor Dodon and the affiliated media holding they
represent the key threat to our information security’.[ 4 ]
From an economic standpoint, Moldova remains Europe’s most
impoverished economy. In 2014, 1 billion USD was stolen from three
Moldovan banks: Banca de Economii, Unibank, and Banca Sociala.
The theft had a political component with the implication of the former
prime minister, Vlad Filat, who was sentenced in the case, as well as other
high-level officials. As one of our anonymous respondents put it, ‘poverty is an important factor in the sensitivity to propaganda, as a person
striving to feed oneself will not have the time to consume media content,
and if one does, it will not be quality content’.[ 5 ]
I bet is just romanian propaganda about mostly imaginary russian propaganda. The census numbers are a proof about who is destroying the moldavians through propaganda.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daco Celtic
Your country isn't broke and plagued with alcoholism? That is just propaganda? I don't dislike Moldovans but you guys sure talk a lot of shit for being the most impoverished country in Europe. Maybe get your own house in order, then talk shit online later. Btw, Russians are broke as fuck too, shitty role model for you guys.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mik20
I am lucky to have learnt Moldavian from my maternal side real preserved Moldavian village like in a time bubble. unfortunately it is also true that in 70% of Moldova west of Prut people use an urbanised Vlachised version: ci faci băi Moldavian replaced ши фашь ўэй Moldavian in maybe 3/4 of Moldova region on hereQuote:
Originally Posted by Mik20
did you also report your sock account? don't forget to do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mik20
I will open a thread on Regional where we can gather Youtube videos with Moldavian language from both sides of Prut. Hope you will join.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nurzat
well while East of Prut people speak in front of camera as they normally do in their day to day life, in Romania people switch to standard language from Bucharest in almost any official thing, because Romania promotes Moldovan dialect shaming. so it will be hard to get to see real Moldovans speak real dialect to a camera. but I can help with my Vaslui county language knowledge, I can register myself and compare regional words and also give insights for different other counties (my wive's, my dad's, the Moldova Capital Region Iasi etc)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mik20
Romania promotes dialect shaming?? I've never heard of such thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nurzat
If you refer to people teasing each other for their accents, this sometimes happens, but in good fun. I see no ill will in that.
I posted this skit before, with the Hungarian and Transylvanian accents, IMO it's very funny:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IF_fp1eU8M
Would Moldovans give up mamaliga to distinguish themselves from Romania? This is the questions. As long as you keep mamaliga in the diet there is too much cultural overlap with swarthy Romanians and this is too confusing for the outside observers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nurzat
@mods: I cannot thumb up my posts, the button is greyed out
I don't want go into another useless discussion about identity, but people here always called themselves Moldavians and their language Moldavian. Is not just a coindicdence what Romanian identity, is more like a trend, not like a real nationalism, and is specific mostly for urban heterogenous societiy, not rural area, were people are more homogenous. I never criticize local individuals who identify herself as Romanians, until they start to attack personally me, since vast majority show aggressivity, and love very much to mock and insult, in general they love to mock their own identity, wich is specefic for Western liberals who hate their White identity, vast majority of pro-Romanians are very pro gay, pro multiculturalism, equality. As Ixulescu wrote many times, to be a Romanian you don't need to care about your origins, in fact is more good to forget about them, this is how a real Romanian need to be, bassically you need to be a mongrel. The incident which happen early in this thread, when Basescul posted a video from Caplani, when in the begining is hear simple local peasant music, wich for him sound alien and "Bulgarian", pretty much show what I said above.
Some good Moldavian peasant music which is totally atypical for Romania.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDC-Umw_1ec
Bullshit. Moldova was founded by Vlachs, and every Vlach calls himself roman/arman etc, always did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aspirin
Until literacy became more widespread (17th century and later), I bet most inhabitants didn't even know the country they lived in was called Moldova. Even when Moldovan came into use, Ruman was used more frequently, because in medieval times people didn't connect the ethnicity with the state, and state was not tied to ethnicities either. This is a very important point that shows how ridiculous the moldovenists really are: there were no ethnic states in medieval times, but moldovenists say Moldova was one.
No, you're not quoting me properly. What I said is that Romanians are not tribal and that Romanians easily accept immigrants from the neighboring countries for two reasons: the neighbors are both genetically and culturally similar and have proven in the past that they assimilate very fast.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aspirin
Romanians are not pro-multiculturalism, but the whole region where Romania stands is very similar culturally - so they are accepting of cultural input from the neighbors. At the same time, Romanians do not accept these stale forms of Romanian-ness, the kind you are exhibiting here: only "certain ways of speech are authentic", only "certain kinds of folk music are not fake" etc. These are airs and graces of small minded rural folk.
Literally everyone in R. Moldova who choose to identify as Romanian has roots solely from Republic of Moldova, and that includes me and my ancestors. Deal with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mik20
Vlach is not the same as Romanian.Quote:
Originally Posted by ixulescu
Vlachs living on the territory of the present day Romania in the 11th century and later were proper Romanians. By 11th century they had already split from Vlachs living South of Danube.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aspirin
Vlach is a vague word and everyone has their own idea of what it means. There is not real consensus on the meaning of the word.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aspirin
Give me sources from Medieval times where they call themselves Romanians. Plus explain why Romanian identity was promoted by elite (very heterogeneous by origin), but wasn't the identity of simple peasants.Quote:
Originally Posted by ixulescu
Exact reactia mea. Pe cand artsi ne-a demonstrat inca o data unde se pozitioneaza pe spectrul autistic, eu am invatat sa lucrez cu PLINK si Eigensoft.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aspirin
Si am reusit sa culeg raw data mostrelor din Stefan Voda, pe care le-am convertat in format 23andme.
Plus la asta, un user de pe apricity mi-a atras atentia la un studiu de care eu nu stiam.
https://bmcgenet.biomedcentral.com/a...63-017-0578-3/
In studiu se scrie ca au cules 32 de mostre dintr-o locatie din Moldova, pe care am cautat-o dupa coordonate si pare sa fie orasul Straseni.
I-am contactat pe 2 dintre autori si ei mi-au transmis toate datele din studiu, iar eu de acolo am extras ceea ce ne intereseaza, moldovenii.
Tot i-am convertat in format 23andme si acus voi lucra cu ei in Admixture Studio, ca sa vad ce rezultate inregistreaza in K13. Sa-mi scrii in PM, daca vrei sa-i incarci pe toti pe GEDmatch.
Ok.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
There is a proper video for that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aspirin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noz6iU3Wwr8
Ok, that's enough bumping for today. I'll call on your services tomorrow too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mik20
I also extracted those 9 Gagauz on top, so now I'm waiting for 52 tests to run.
That's how I feel while waiting for my potato PC to process them (that also happens to be my default song when cooking plov):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHy_LwaovZ0
The elites didn't give a hoot about questions of identity, the only cared about social positions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aspirin
Regarding sources, from the earliest Moldovan chronicles the authors refer to inhabitants of Moldova as either Romanian or Moldovan, or they say that Moldovans are Romanians.
There are no prior proofs on how Moldovans referred to themselves. They might as well have called themselves Bulgarian, but we little reason to believe that.
Explain this:Quote:
Originally Posted by ixulescu
Quote:
Însă Vlahia, acești gheografi și mai toț istoricii câț scriu de aceste țări, zicea și Moldovei, și ceștiia. Apoi o împarte în doauă: una de sus, alta de jos îi zic; le zic și mai mare și mai mică: cea de sus, adecăte și mai mare, Moldova, cea de jos și mai mică, Ţara această Muntenească numeind, cum îi zic mai mulți așa, că Rumânească numai lăcuitorii ei o chiamă, și doar unii den erdeleani, rumâni. Pentru că și aceia și ceștea numai când să întreabă ce iaste, ei răspund: rumâni. Iar moldoveanii să osebesc, de să răspund: moldovan, săvai că și ei sânt de un neam și de un rod cu ceștia, cum mai nainte mai pre larg vom arăta cu mărturiile multora.
I guess many of them associate "Romanianism" with being pro-EU/NATO and you can't be against those things if you're pro-EU. Certainly not today, maybe 20 years ago. It's like the stupid "language nationalism" in Ukraine and to some extent Belarus. "I support liberalism, globalism, don't care about blood or race but God forbid you don't hate the Russian language."Quote:
Originally Posted by Aspirin
Yes, but exist and the opposite current, in the face of local Moldovenism, which is mostly of Soviet origin, is not really nationalism. And these type of Moldovenists are pro-Russia people, most of them are not even ethnic Moldavians and don't speak the language, is bassicaly the oposite face of the same coin. Many Romanians try to impose what I support especially this type of Moldovenism, because such thing as ethnic Moldovenism don't exist at all. I put myself in the middle, since I don't suport any of these tendencies. One Romanian here without any reason even insulted me as "filthy Bessarabian" because of my position, without any negative attacks towards Romanians from my side.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
This identity problem is one of reasons why is so shitty in RM today, and the only good solution I think is the most democartic way, to make a referendum, about language, about the future extern policy evolution, about name of the main population here, and to put a big end in this useless fight. But many oppose this, especially pro-Romanians. I voted in the last 10 years only for pro-EU/pro-Romanian parties, and I am very disapoined in them.
I will start posting Admixture Studio Oracles, nMonte and PCA for each one of them, but I won't finish everything today.
Moldavian reference is the one from the original Eurogenes K13 spreadsheet.
I will start with myself to show how the results will be formatted.
1) Ion Basescul_Chisinau
Code:Components %
North_Atlantic 25.42
Baltic 29.37
West_Med 15.04
West_Asian 9.99
East_Med 12.91
Red_Sea 1.53
South_Asian 0.69
East_Asian 1.84
Siberian 2.84
Amerindian 0.00
Oceanian 0.37
Northeast_African 0.00
Sub-Saharan 0.00
Oracle
Mixed Mode:
1 82.42% Serbian + 17.58% Tatar @ 1.902
2 87.89% Serbian + 12.11% Chuvash @ 2.039
3 89.45% Serbian + 10.55% Mari @ 2.379
4 78.52% Romanian + 21.48% East_Finnish @ 2.436
5 76.17% Romanian + 23.83% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.606
6 55.08% Serbian + 44.92% Moldavian @ 2.631
7 50.39% Moldavian + 49.61% Serbian @ 2.672
8 78.52% Romanian + 21.48% Finnish @ 2.681
9 87.11% Serbian + 12.89% Erzya @ 2.743
10 61.33% Ukrainian + 38.67% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.763
Least-squares method.
Using 1 populations approximation
1 100% Serbian @ 4.744
2 100% Moldavian @ 5.484
3 100% Romanian @ 8.023
4 100% Croatian @ 8.636
5 100% Hungarian @ 8.989
6 100% Bulgarian @ 10.676
7 100% Austrian @ 13.395
8 100% East_German @ 14.784
9 100% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 15.519
10 100% South_Polish @ 16.340
Using 2 populations approximation
1 50% Serbian + 50% Moldavian @ 2.667
2 50% Moldavian + 50% Romanian @ 3.187
3 50% Romanian + 50% Croatian @ 3.255
4 50% Tuscan + 50% Erzya @ 3.277
5 50% Estonian + 50% Central_Greek @ 3.627
6 50% Kargopol_Russian + 50% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.632
7 50% Kargopol_Russian + 50% Tuscan @ 3.719
8 50% Finnish + 50% Central_Greek @ 3.722
9 50% Italian_Abruzzo + 50% Estonian @ 3.873
10 50% Croatian + 50% Bulgarian @ 3.873
Using 3 populations approximation
1 33% Serbian + 33% Serbian + 33% Moldavian @ 2.825
2 33% Romanian + 33% Romanian + 33% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.854
3 33% Moldavian + 33% Moldavian + 33% Romanian @ 2.926
4 33% Romanian + 33% Romanian + 33% Ukrainian @ 3.028
5 33% Moldavian + 33% Romanian + 33% Hungarian @ 3.089
6 33% Romanian + 33% Romanian + 33% South_Polish @ 3.146
7 33% Ukrainian_Lviv + 33% Ukrainian_Lviv + 33% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.172
8 33% Serbian + 33% Moldavian + 33% Moldavian @ 3.241
9 33% Ukrainian_Lviv + 33% Ukrainian + 33% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.248
10 33% Ukrainian_Lviv + 33% South_Polish + 33% South_Italian @ 3.280
Using 4 populations approximation
1 25% Bulgarian + 25% Bulgarian + 25% East_German + 25% Tatar @ 2.286
2 25% Bulgarian + 25% Bulgarian + 25% Austrian + 25% Tatar @ 2.510
3 25% Serbian + 25% Serbian + 25% Serbian + 25% Tatar @ 2.611
4 25% Romanian + 25% Romanian + 25% Romanian + 25% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.631
5 25% Serbian + 25% Serbian + 25% Moldavian + 25% Moldavian @ 2.667
6 25% Erzya + 25% Erzya + 25% Spanish_Cataluna + 25% South_Italian @ 2.741
7 25% Romanian + 25% Romanian + 25% Romanian + 25% East_Finnish @ 2.793
8 25% Kargopol_Russian + 25% Kargopol_Russian + 25% Tuscan + 25% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.854
9 25% Serbian + 25% Serbian + 25% Romanian + 25% Tatar @ 2.862
10 25% Erzya + 25% Erzya + 25% Italian_Abruzzo + 25% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.890
nMonte
Distance: 2.02
55.80% Serbian
39.00% Moldavian
02.60% Kazakh
01.60% Tatar
00.40% Kirgiz
00.20% Nogay
00.20% Romanian
00.20% Xibo
PCA
https://i.imgur.com/85CGNvE.png
2) Ion Basescul_dad_Orhei
Code:Components %
North_Atlantic 25.05
Baltic 32.29
West_Med 14.01
West_Asian 11.55
East_Med 12.00
Red_Sea 0.18
South_Asian 1.57
East_Asian 0.00
Siberian 1.59
Amerindian 0.92
Oceanian 0.00
Northeast_African 0.29
Sub-Saharan 0.56
Oracle
Mixed Mode:
1 87.89% Croatian + 12.11% Azeri @ 2.283
2 87.11% Croatian + 12.89% Turkish @ 2.320
3 89.45% Croatian + 10.55% Kurdish @ 2.323
4 89.45% Croatian + 10.55% Armenian @ 2.344
5 94.92% Moldavian + 5.08% Tabassaran @ 2.522
6 94.92% Moldavian + 5.08% Lezgin @ 2.524
7 87.89% Croatian + 12.11% Turkmen @ 2.553
8 89.45% Croatian + 10.55% Iranian @ 2.563
9 95.70% Moldavian + 4.30% Kurdish @ 2.582
10 94.92% Moldavian + 5.08% Kumyk @ 2.619
Least-squares method.
Using 1 populations approximation
1 100% Moldavian @ 3.376
2 100% Croatian @ 6.561
3 100% Serbian @ 7.702
4 100% Hungarian @ 8.860
5 100% Romanian @ 10.643
6 100% Bulgarian @ 12.933
7 100% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 13.019
8 100% Austrian @ 13.875
9 100% South_Polish @ 13.969
10 100% Ukrainian @ 14.468
Using 2 populations approximation
1 50% Bulgarian + 50% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.352
2 50% Moldavian + 50% Moldavian @ 3.376
3 50% Romanian + 50% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.458
4 50% Bulgarian + 50% South_Polish @ 3.535
5 50% Bulgarian + 50% Ukrainian @ 3.697
6 50% Romanian + 50% Ukrainian @ 3.873
7 50% Moldavian + 50% Serbian @ 4.022
8 50% Romanian + 50% South_Polish @ 4.116
9 50% Croatian + 50% Romanian @ 4.390
10 50% Bulgarian + 50% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 4.483
Using 3 populations approximation
1 33% Romanian + 33% Romanian + 33% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.933
2 33% Romanian + 33% Romanian + 33% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.966
3 33% Serbian + 33% Romanian + 33% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.160
4 33% Moldavian + 33% Moldavian + 33% Serbian @ 3.213
5 33% Romanian + 33% Bulgarian + 33% Kargopol_Russian @ 3.236
6 33% Romanian + 33% Romanian + 33% Southwest_Russian @ 3.320
7 33% Moldavian + 33% Croatian + 33% Romanian @ 3.322
8 33% Moldavian + 33% Moldavian + 33% Moldavian @ 3.376
9 33% Romanian + 33% Romanian + 33% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.392
10 33% Romanian + 33% Romanian + 33% Erzya @ 3.396
Using 4 populations approximation
1 25% Bulgarian + 25% Bulgarian + 25% Austrian + 25% Erzya @ 2.719
2 25% Ukrainian + 25% Ukrainian + 25% East_German + 25% Turkish @ 2.893
3 25% Moldavian + 25% Moldavian + 25% Moldavian + 25% Serbian @ 2.999
4 25% Moldavian + 25% Moldavian + 25% Croatian + 25% Romanian @ 3.004
5 25% Moldavian + 25% Moldavian + 25% Moldavian + 25% Romanian @ 3.011
6 25% Moldavian + 25% Moldavian + 25% Croatian + 25% Bulgarian @ 3.182
7 25% Serbian + 25% Serbian + 25% Romanian + 25% Erzya @ 3.224
8 25% Bulgarian + 25% Bulgarian + 25% Ukrainian_Lviv + 25% South_Polish @ 3.296
9 25% Bulgarian + 25% Bulgarian + 25% Austrian + 25% Kargopol_Russian @ 3.320
10 25% Bulgarian + 25% Bulgarian + 25% Ukrainian_Lviv + 25% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.352
nMonte
Distance: 2.48
77.60% Moldavian
11.00% Hungarian
06.60% Romanian
03.40% Lezgin
00.80% Tabassaran
00.20% Bulgarian
00.20% Croatian
00.20% Serbian
PCA
https://i.imgur.com/9rjQKUo.png
3) Ion Basescul_mom 1/2 Romanian/Moldovan Cahul 1/2 Ukrainian Briceni
Code:Components %
North_Atlantic 20.02
Baltic 37.13
West_Med 15.57
West_Asian 9.83
East_Med 12.85
Red_Sea 0.67
South_Asian 0.99
East_Asian 1.49
Siberian 0.36
Amerindian 0.37
Oceanian 0.72
Northeast_African 0.00
Sub-Saharan 0.00
Oracle
Mixed Mode:
1 79.30% Ukrainian + 20.70% Cypriot @ 4.598
2 57.42% Bulgarian + 42.58% Erzya @ 4.747
3 62.11% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 37.89% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.913
4 81.64% Ukrainian + 18.36% Lebanese_Christian @ 5.009
5 50.39% Bulgarian + 49.61% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 5.030
6 50.39% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 49.61% Bulgarian @ 5.039
7 50.39% Bulgarian + 49.61% Southwest_Russian @ 5.118
8 50.39% Southwest_Russian + 49.61% Bulgarian @ 5.124
9 81.64% Ukrainian + 18.36% Samaritan @ 5.127
10 62.11% Southwest_Russian + 37.89% Greek_Thessaly @ 5.165
Least-squares method.
Using 1 populations approximation
1 100% Moldavian @ 6.419
2 100% Croatian @ 8.451
3 100% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 12.546
4 100% Serbian @ 12.625
5 100% Ukrainian @ 13.461
6 100% Hungarian @ 14.379
7 100% South_Polish @ 14.631
8 100% Romanian @ 14.643
9 100% Bulgarian @ 15.494
10 100% Southwest_Russian @ 15.742
Using 2 populations approximation
1 50% Bulgarian + 50% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 5.033
2 50% Bulgarian + 50% Southwest_Russian @ 5.120
3 50% Bulgarian + 50% Erzya @ 5.430
4 50% Lithuanian + 50% Greek_Thessaly @ 5.647
5 50% Bulgarian + 50% Russian_Smolensk @ 5.896
6 50% Erzya + 50% Greek_Thessaly @ 5.906
7 50% Bulgarian + 50% Estonian_Polish @ 5.951
8 50% Ukrainian + 50% Bulgarian @ 6.000
9 50% Bulgarian + 50% Kargopol_Russian @ 6.159
10 50% Romanian + 50% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 6.329
Using 3 populations approximation
1 33% Southwest_Russian + 33% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 33% Central_Greek @ 5.184
2 33% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 33% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 33% Central_Greek @ 5.234
3 33% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 33% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 33% Greek_Thessaly @ 5.246
4 33% Southwest_Russian + 33% Southwest_Russian + 33% Central_Greek @ 5.267
5 33% Southwest_Russian + 33% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 33% Greek_Thessaly @ 5.278
6 33% Erzya + 33% Lithuanian + 33% South_Italian @ 5.352
7 33% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 33% Russian_Smolensk + 33% Central_Greek @ 5.369
8 33% Southwest_Russian + 33% Southwest_Russian + 33% Greek_Thessaly @ 5.438
9 33% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 33% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 33% East_Sicilian @ 5.510
10 33% Southwest_Russian + 33% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 33% East_Sicilian @ 5.532
Using 4 populations approximation
1 25% Bulgarian + 25% Bulgarian + 25% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 25% Erzya @ 4.713
2 25% Bulgarian + 25% Bulgarian + 25% Southwest_Russian + 25% Erzya @ 4.794
3 25% Bulgarian + 25% Bulgarian + 25% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 25% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 5.033
4 25% Bulgarian + 25% Bulgarian + 25% Southwest_Russian + 25% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 5.038
5 25% Bulgarian + 25% Bulgarian + 25% Southwest_Russian + 25% Southwest_Russian @ 5.120
6 25% Bulgarian + 25% Bulgarian + 25% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 25% Kargopol_Russian @ 5.253
7 25% Ukrainian + 25% Ukrainian + 25% Ukrainian + 25% Cypriot @ 5.293
8 25% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 25% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 25% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 25% Algerian_Jew @ 5.297
9 25% Bulgarian + 25% Bulgarian + 25% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 25% Estonian_Polish @ 5.309
10 25% Bulgarian + 25% Bulgarian + 25% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 25% Russian_Smolensk @ 5.359
nMonte
Distance: 5.84
53.80% Moldavian
17.60% Bulgarian
15.80% Erzya
09.60% Ukrainian_Belgorod
03.20% Cypriot
PCA
https://i.imgur.com/0WNy7Nv.png
4) Moldova_725_R01C01_or.Straseni
Code:Components %
North_Atlantic 24.58
Baltic 31.08
West_Med 13.08
West_Asian 6.06
East_Med 16.71
Red_Sea 3.33
South_Asian 1.41
East_Asian 0.00
Siberian 2.32
Amerindian 1.43
Oceanian 0.00
Northeast_African 0.00
Sub-Saharan 0.00
Oracle
Mixed Mode:
1 51.95% Estonian + 48.05% Ashkenazi @ 1.406
2 50.39% Ashkenazi + 49.61% Estonian @ 1.931
3 58.20% Estonian + 41.80% Algerian_Jew @ 1.963
4 58.20% Estonian + 41.80% Italian_Jew @ 1.972
5 58.20% Estonian + 41.80% Sephardic_Jew @ 2.438
6 62.89% Estonian_Polish + 37.11% Italian_Jew @ 2.537
7 62.89% Estonian_Polish + 37.11% Sephardic_Jew @ 2.603
8 62.11% Belorussian + 37.89% Italian_Jew @ 2.673
9 58.98% Polish + 41.02% Ashkenazi @ 2.695
10 59.77% Estonian + 40.23% Tunisian_Jew @ 2.771
Least-squares method.
Using 1 populations approximation
1 100% Serbian @ 6.853
2 100% Moldavian @ 8.268
3 100% Romanian @ 9.677
4 100% Croatian @ 9.957
5 100% Hungarian @ 10.615
6 100% Bulgarian @ 11.612
7 100% Austrian @ 15.700
8 100% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 16.151
9 100% East_German @ 16.834
10 100% South_Polish @ 16.859
Using 2 populations approximation
1 50% Estonian + 50% Ashkenazi @ 1.783
2 50% Estonian + 50% East_Sicilian @ 3.318
3 50% Finnish + 50% Ashkenazi @ 3.618
4 50% Lithuanian + 50% Ashkenazi @ 3.701
5 50% Lithuanian + 50% West_Sicilian @ 3.733
6 50% Greek_Thessaly + 50% Belorussian @ 3.753
7 50% East_Finnish + 50% Ashkenazi @ 3.900
8 50% Estonian + 50% Central_Greek @ 3.907
9 50% East_Finnish + 50% East_Sicilian @ 4.009
10 50% Greek_Thessaly + 50% Estonian_Polish @ 4.065
Using 3 populations approximation
1 33% Southwest_Russian + 33% Polish + 33% Italian_Jew @ 2.918
2 33% South_Polish + 33% Southwest_Russian + 33% Italian_Jew @ 3.051
3 33% Ukrainian_Lviv + 33% South_Polish + 33% Ashkenazi @ 3.131
4 33% South_Polish + 33% Ukrainian + 33% Ashkenazi @ 3.176
5 33% Ukrainian + 33% Southwest_Russian + 33% Italian_Jew @ 3.213
6 33% Southwest_Russian + 33% Polish + 33% Sephardic_Jew @ 3.272
7 33% South_Polish + 33% South_Polish + 33% Ashkenazi @ 3.274
8 33% South_Polish + 33% Southwest_Russian + 33% Sephardic_Jew @ 3.401
9 33% South_Polish + 33% Southwest_Russian + 33% Algerian_Jew @ 3.402
10 33% Estonian_Polish + 33% Estonian_Polish + 33% Italian_Jew @ 3.416
Using 4 populations approximation
1 25% Estonian + 25% Estonian + 25% Central_Greek + 25% Ashkenazi @ 2.190
2 25% Lithuanian + 25% Lithuanian + 25% West_Sicilian + 25% Ashkenazi @ 2.789
3 25% Lithuanian + 25% Lithuanian + 25% Spanish_Cataluna + 25% Lebanese_Christian @ 3.420
4 25% Lithuanian + 25% Lithuanian + 25% Spanish_Cataluna + 25% Lebanese_Druze @ 3.446
5 25% East_Finnish + 25% East_Finnish + 25% West_Sicilian + 25% Ashkenazi @ 3.457
6 25% Belorussian + 25% Belorussian + 25% North_Italian + 25% Ashkenazi @ 3.470
7 25% East_Finnish + 25% East_Finnish + 25% Central_Greek + 25% Ashkenazi @ 3.492
8 25% Lithuanian + 25% Lithuanian + 25% Spanish_Cataluna + 25% Samaritan @ 3.505
9 25% Estonian_Polish + 25% Estonian_Polish + 25% South_Dutch + 25% Samaritan @ 3.536
10 25% Estonian + 25% Estonian + 25% Central_Greek + 25% Italian_Jew @ 3.546
nMonte
Distance: 4.73
70.20% Serbian
15.80% Estonian_Polish
06.00% Yemenite_Jew
02.80% Saami_Finland
02.80% Southwest_Russian
00.60% Croatian
00.60% Mari
00.60% West_Greenlander
00.40% Ashkenazi
00.20% Belorussian
PCA
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