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12-16-2020, 08:59 PM
Abriekman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leto

I've made a solid Russian average for K13! It's based on 35 kits with more or less known genealogy, cherrypicked on the basis of their origin, not because they score a high or low amount of X,Y,Z. I also took into account the size of the population in each region - e.g. I used more people from Central Russia and the Volga region than from Northern or Southern Russia. Siberia and the Far East weren't used as they are too mixed and would probably be somewhere between this one and Kargopol/Kostroma (ranging between full Ukrainians and Uralics).

Code:

Russian_average,26.03,47.50,8.65,5.49,2.99,0.68,1.32,0.45,4.75,1.23,0.46,0.15,0.31

Original spreadsheet
Distance: 1.3123% / 1.31234155
Target: Russian_average | ADC: 1x RC
55.9 Kargopol_Russian
22.2 Southwest_Russian
21.9 Russian_Smolensk

Looks just fine to me :thumb001:

Please delete "Russian", it's just an average of Smolensk, SW Russian and Kargopol made by Dunai.

Could you share Gedmatch results of Siberian Russians from far East?
12-16-2020, 09:23 PM
Leto

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abriekman

Could you share Gedmatch results of Siberian Russians from far East?

First of all, there aren't many of them on Gedmatch, the Far Eastern Federal District contains only 5% of the Russian population. Secondly they are hardly a distinct group. Some would be in the Ukrainian or Southern Russian range, others would be more Northern. Places like Buryatia and Yakutia are excepted to have a large percentage of mixed, heavily Asian people, I've come across a few such cases (needless to say many people from there look blatantly mixed-race).
Believe me, you won't score that, so you don't need them :) :p
12-16-2020, 09:54 PM
Abriekman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leto

First of all, there aren't many of them on Gedmatch, the Far Eastern Federal District contains only 5% of the Russian population. Secondly they are hardly a distinct group. Some would be in the Ukrainian or Southern Russian range, others would be more Northern. Places like Buryatia and Yakutia are excepted to have a large percentage of mixed, heavily Asian people, I've come across a few such cases (needless to say many people from there look blatantly mixed-race).
Believe me, you won't score that, so you don't need them :) :p

Did I ever say I have Buryat or Yakut ancestor? I want to model myself with simple Siberia Russian average, not Turkic or Mongol
12-16-2020, 10:05 PM
Leto

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abriekman

Did I ever say I have Buryat or Yakut ancestor? I want to model myself with simple Siberia Russian average, not Turkic or Mongol

You can model yourself with what I did plus the other ones. You are only quarter Russian anyway and that quarter is regionally mixed.
12-17-2020, 01:25 PM
J. Ketch

Afrikaner K15 from the same 25 kits

Code:

Afrikaner,31.66,25.30,10.90,8.07,10.15,3.92,3.26,0.64,2.17,0.73,0.25,0.33,0.41,0.48,1.66

Distance to: Afrikaner
3.34136200 Dutch_South
4.29356495 Belgium
4.84196241 FRA_Belgica
5.01660244 FRA_Armorica
5.54161529 English_Southeast
5.80641025 German_Bavarian
5.84835874 West_German
5.95108393 Dutch
6.13503056 English_Midlands
6.25483013 English
6.33686042 North_German
6.34515563 Pennsylvania_Dutch
6.37168737 FRA_Alsace
6.40513856 Dutch_Central
6.60999244 English_Southwest
6.86455388 English_North
6.93649768 Swiss_German
7.09495595 Welsh
8.27849624 Scottish
8.31519092 Irish_Leinster
8.70182165 Irish
8.71068884 Irish_Munster
8.93790244 Dutch_North
8.96161258 Irish_Ulster
9.09718638 West_Scottish

Distance: 0.8054% / 0.80542011
Target: Afrikaner | ADC: 0.25x RC
40.9 Dutch_South
22.9 North_German
22.3 FRA_Belgica
10.3 FRA_Armorica
2.1 Austroasiatic_Ho
1.5 Bantu_S.W.

Distance: 0.8843% / 0.88431533
Target: Afrikaner | ADC: 0.5x RC
47.9 Dutch_South
24.7 North_German
24.0 FRA_Belgica
2.1 Austroasiatic_Ho
1.3 Mandenka
12-17-2020, 01:28 PM
Tacitus

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leto

Some minor aesthetic polishing (renaming, rounding)

Code:

Italian_Abruzzo,20.82,8.67,21.33,13.7,29.21,4.61,0.18,0.28,0.28,0.22,0.33,0.33,0.04 Italian_Aosta_Valley,39.39,15.81,22.37,7.56,12.42,1.2,0.46,0.01,0,0.01,0.12,0.44,0.21 Italian_Apulia,19.01,8.44,22.08,14.71,29.49,4.61,0.12,0.02,0.1,0.4,0.55,0.37,0.1 Italian_Basilicata,20.54,8.01,20.72,14.55,28.73,5.5,0.37,0.08,0.09,0.03,0.46,0.59,0.33 Italian_Calabria,15.99,5.68,21.38,15.48,33.13,6.25,0.3,0.46,0,0.06,0.3,0.64,0.33 Italian_Campania,18.53,7.21,21.05,15.4,30.94,4.84,0.63,0.33,0.1,0.14,0.12,0.52,0.19 Italian_Emilia,29.66,11.98,24.47,8.33,21.32,2.94,0.27,0.23,0,0.3,0.3,0.16,0.04 Italian_Friuli_VG,32.26,16.88,20.62,7.19,18.53,2.99,0.31,0.3,0.05,0.8,0.02,0.04,0.01 Italian_Lazio,25.25,9.35,24.03,11.35,25.14,3.6,0.33,0.2,0.12,0.25,0.18,0.14,0.06 Italian_Liguria,30.65,11.88,24.59,7.61,21.06,2.75,0.38,0.33,0.07,0.28,0.28,0.08,0.04 Italian_Lombardy,32.35,12.62,26.19,5.59,20.25,2.1,0.32,0.13,0.06,0.02,0.16,0.1,0.11 Italian_Marche,25.48,9.49,23.15,11.52,25.53,3.8,0.14,0.14,0.12,0.15,0.12,0.18,0.18 Italian_Molise,20.11,8.57,21.61,14.07,29.62,4.58,0.02,0.47,0,0.38,0.25,0.16,0.16 Italian_Piedmont,32.91,14.19,24.66,6.01,17.91,2.93,0.08,0.1,0.18,0.34,0.46,0.02,0.21 Italian_Romagna,26.31,11.19,23.14,10.18,24.32,3.81,0.08,0.35,0.07,0.27,0.14,0.14,0 Italian_Trentino,33.67,17.74,23.27,5.53,17.18,1.61,0,0.16,0.12,0.22,0.31,0.16,0.03 Italian_Tuscan,27.72,10.94,24.25,8.89,23.27,3.79,0.22,0.14,0.15,0.08,0.38,0.14,0.05 Italian_Umbria,26.21,9.45,23.31,11.11,24.58,3.76,0.28,0.17,0,0.16,0.84,0.13,0 Italian_Veneto,32.25,15.08,23.66,7.48,18.38,1.65,0.25,0.4,0.24,0.27,0.3,0,0.04

Code:

Macedonian_North,22.45,22.17,19.47,10.81,21.36,2.23,0.35,0.46,0.35,0.22,0.42,0.01,0.07 Macedonian_South,21.94,21.01,20,11.07,21.45,2.57,0.25,0.43,0.50,0.31,0.38,0.11,0.05 Macedonian_average,22.14,21.76,19.68,10.90,21.19,2.43,0.22,0.39,0.48,0.28,0.40,0.05,0.07

Should add Sicily and Sardinia to the Italian group:

Code:

Italian_Sardinia,23.14,1.64,49.58,0.38,22.02,2.41,0,0.13,0.03,0,0.31,0.26,0.1 Italian_Sicily,18.24,7.44,21.81,13.91,29.59,5.61,0.59,0.33,0.21,0.14,0.42,0.95,0.77
12-17-2020, 02:00 PM
Leto

Quote:

Originally Posted by Creoda

Distance: 0.8054% / 0.80542011
Target: Afrikaner | ADC: 0.25x RC
40.9 Dutch_South
22.9 North_German
22.3 FRA_Belgica
10.3 FRA_Armorica
2.1 Austroasiatic_Ho
1.5 Bantu_S.W.

Distance: 0.8843% / 0.88431533
Target: Afrikaner | ADC: 0.5x RC
47.9 Dutch_South
24.7 North_German
24.0 FRA_Belgica
2.1 Austroasiatic_Ho
1.3 Mandenka

Since they're from Africa, them hoes kinda make sense if you know what I mean ;)
12-17-2020, 06:47 PM
Amon

For Dodecad K12b

Code:

Tatar_Mishar,6.38,8.97,0.13,0.91,16.34,46.4,1.35,0.01,1.56,4.92,13,0.04
12-17-2020, 07:07 PM
Leto

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amon

For Dodecad K12b

Code:

Tatar_Mishar,6.38,8.97,0.13,0.91,16.34,46.4,1.35,0.01,1.56,4.92,13,0.04

The sample size is probably too low, I don't like fishy and not very useful pops. Lipka was added, although it's probably equally questionable. No offense, not everything should be added, only valuable and solid things.
12-17-2020, 07:25 PM
Amon

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leto

The sample size is probably too low, I don't like fishy and not very useful pops. Lipka was added, although it's probably equally questionable. No offense, not everything should be added, only valuable and solid things.

N=20