I think he is just a Wallachian who studied in Iași. His birthplace seems to be this village where he went to school:https://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/T%C3%A2nganu,_IlfovQuote:
Originally Posted by vbnetkhio
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I think he is just a Wallachian who studied in Iași. His birthplace seems to be this village where he went to school:https://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/T%C3%A2nganu,_IlfovQuote:
Originally Posted by vbnetkhio
What % of Romanians score like him? I've never seen any. Which region is he from?Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
I don't know. Probably some East Slavic admix. He is more Northern than most Romanians and Moldovans yet that dipshit would say disparaging things about Northern Europeans as if he was some kind of Mediterranean supremacist.Quote:
Originally Posted by Universe
Another interpretation of the data from me.
NE + NW Europe = N_Atlantic + Baltic
East + West Med = East Med + West Med
NW Asia/Caucasus = West Asian
SW Asia/Arabia = Red Sea + NE African
East Asia/Siberia = East Asian + Siberian + Amerindian
India = South Asian
Legend:
Romania
- Dark blue = Northern Moldavia
- Light blue = Southern Moldavia
- Dark grey = Mixed individuals
R. Moldova
- Dark orange = Norther Moldova
- Yellow = Central Moldova
- Greenish Yellow = Southern Moldova
- Light grey - Mixed individuals
Sorted by NE + NW Europe:
https://i.postimg.cc/xf9nJ0fC/image.png
Sorted by East + West Med
https://i.postimg.cc/VmmGxd75/image.png
Sorted by NW Asia/Caucasus
https://i.postimg.cc/zzYSTc63/image.png
Sorted by SW Asia/Arabia
https://i.postimg.cc/4Z5bhw5N/image.png
Sorted by East Asia/Siberia
https://i.postimg.cc/qkxgZDgN/image.png
Sorted by India
https://i.postimg.cc/NtNRsLf5/image.png
Min and Max values for unmixed people from R. Moldova:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
38% - 64% NE + NW Europe
24% - 44% East + West Med
5% - 15% NW Asia/Caucasus
0% - 5% SW Asia/Arabia
0% - 5% East Asia/Siberia
0% - 4% India
Min and Max values for unmixed people from Romania's Moldavia (without IncelSlayer aka 53_Galati):
45% - 60% NE + NW Europe
23% - 41% East + West Med
4% - 14% NW Asia/Caucasus
0% - 4% SW Asia/Arabia
1% - 4% East Asia/Siberia
0% - 4% India
Averages for unmixed people from R. Moldova:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
53%, or 54% (if we ignore the Stefan Voda samples with 38% and 41% and start counting from the 3 Stefan Voda samples at 44%) NE + NW Europe
31% East + West Med
10% NW Asia/Caucasus
2% SW Asia/Arabia
2% East Asia/Siberia
1% India
Averages for unmixed people from Romania's Moldavia (without IncelSlayer aka 53_Galati):
52% NE + NW Europe
32% East + West Med
10% NW Asia/Caucasus
2% SW Asia/Arabia
2% East Asia/Siberia
1% India
Min and Max values for all samples (mixed and unmixed) from R. Moldova:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
19% - 77% NE + NW Europe
11% - 55% East + West Med
2% - 28% NW Asia/Caucasus
0% - 9% SW Asia/Arabia
0% - 5% East Asia/Siberia
0% - 25% India
Min and Max values for all samples (mixed and unmixed) from Romania's Moldavia:
26% - 65% NE + NW Europe
23% - 53% East + West Med
4% - 14% NW Asia/Caucasus
0% - 7% SW Asia/Arabia
1% - 4% East Asia/Siberia
0% - 6% India
Averages for all samples (mixed and unmixed) from R. Moldova:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
54% NE + NW Europe
29% East + West Med
10% NW Asia/Caucasus
2% SW Asia/Arabia
2% East Asia/Siberia
1% India
Averages for all samples (mixed and unmixed) from Romania's Moldavia:
52% NE + NW Europe
32% East + West Med
10% NW Asia/Caucasus
2% SW Asia/Arabia
2% East Asia/Siberia
1% India
These samples that I previously had attributed to Suceava county are actually from Hunedoara county in Transylvania, following their confirmation. The rare surname outside of Suceava had me confused.
https://i.imgur.com/Z9tgm6F.png
The remaining unmixed samples from Suceava are:
https://i.imgur.com/LbprouP.png
I think people from North Moldova (whether Romanian Moldova or the Republic of Moldova) score similar to him. He's from South Moldova though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Universe
I have the Eurogenes K13 coordinates of a few more. I'm not sure if they're already in your database. I don't have their kit numbers right now (will take a while to search for them), but have their K13 results saved.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
Code:Romanian_Suceava_A,25.1,30.93,16.34,10.95,11.35,0.08,1.2,1.01,1.3,0.74,0.64,0,0.36
Code:Romanian_Vaslui_A,23.46,28.78,17.1,9.49,15.08,2.33,0.19,0.1,2.35,0.58,0.56,0,0
One or both of the Vaslui kits are from Nurzat (so you may already have them), don't remember exactly. I also posted a few more Romanian and Moldovan results in the original "South Slavic and Neighbors" thread, but they're going to take a while to find since its a huge thread. I will try to dig up them all up later this week.Code:Romanian_Vaslui_B,26.56,26.95,15.36,8.59,16.04,3.01,0.55,0.08,2.86,0,0,0,0
Thanks, I have them all. The first one are Nurzat's results btw, so half Ukrainian, half Vaslui.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mingle
Half Jewish/half Moldovan from Chisinau
Surname of a blondie politician from a certain political party in Moldova.
# Population Percent 1 East_Med 25.98 2 North_Atlantic 18.03 3 West_Med 17.63 4 Baltic 15.81 5 West_Asian 12.17 6 Red_Sea 5.79 7 South_Asian 1.72 8 Northeast_African 1.38 9 Oceanian 1.31 10 Siberian 0.17 11 Amerindian 0.01
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance 1 Greek_Thessaly 4.03 2 Central_Greek 7.57 3 East_Sicilian 8.05 4 Italian_Abruzzo 8.53 5 West_Sicilian 9.56 6 Ashkenazi 9.6 7 Bulgarian 10.39 8 South_Italian 11.64 9 Tuscan 11.68 10 Romanian 12.4 11 Sephardic_Jewish 16.18 12 Algerian_Jewish 16.32 13 Italian_Jewish 16.32 14 Serbian 16.35 15 North_Italian 16.41 16 Tunisian_Jewish 19.32 17 Libyan_Jewish 19.62 18 Cyprian 21.82 19 Moldavian 22.02 20 Turkish 22.55
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance 1 83.1% East_Sicilian + 16.9% Belorussian @ 2.11 2 81.8% East_Sicilian + 18.2% Southwest_Russian @ 2.13 3 84.6% East_Sicilian + 15.4% Lithuanian @ 2.16 4 82.7% East_Sicilian + 17.3% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.19 5 82% East_Sicilian + 18% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.19 6 82.9% East_Sicilian + 17.1% Estonian_Polish @ 2.2 7 65.8% Bulgarian + 34.2% Libyan_Jewish @ 2.25 8 53.3% Tunisian_Jewish + 46.7% Moldavian @ 2.27 9 57.8% Sephardic_Jewish + 42.2% Moldavian @ 2.34 10 65.5% Bulgarian + 34.5% Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.35 11 84.6% East_Sicilian + 15.4% Estonian @ 2.37 12 84.7% East_Sicilian + 15.3% East_Finnish @ 2.41 13 83.4% East_Sicilian + 16.6% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.41 14 61.5% Romanian + 38.5% Libyan_Jewish @ 2.46 15 84.5% East_Sicilian + 15.5% Finnish @ 2.5 16 80.2% East_Sicilian + 19.8% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.5 17 61.2% Romanian + 38.8% Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.5 18 83.7% East_Sicilian + 16.3% Erzya @ 2.51 19 82.3% East_Sicilian + 17.7% Polish @ 2.52 20 81% East_Sicilian + 19% Ukrainian @ 2.58
Target: 1/2Jewish_1/2Moldovan
Distance: 2.6677% / 2.66769918 | ADC: 0.25x50.4 Ashkenazi 45.0 Moldova_South 4.6 Roma_Unmixed_Moldova 0.0 Crimean_Tatar 0.0 Moldova_Centre 0.0 Moldova_North 0.0 Romania_Dobruja-Tatar 0.0 Ukrainian 0.0 Ukrainian_Lviv 0.0 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk 0.0 RU_Pinega 0.0 Russian_Smolensk
Target: 1/2Jewish_1/2Moldovan
Distance: 2.4092% / 2.40915811 | ADC: 0.25x47.8 Moldova_South 39.4 Ashkenazi 8.6 Sephardic_Jewish 4.2 Roma_Unmixed_Moldova 0.0 Crimean_Tatar 0.0 Moldova_Centre 0.0 Moldova_North 0.0 Romania_Dobruja-Tatar 0.0 Ukrainian 0.0 Ukrainian_Lviv 0.0 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk 0.0 RU_Pinega 0.0 Russian_Smolensk
Moldovan Bulgarian from Cantemir district
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 24.47
2 West_Med 19.61
3 East_Med 17.82
4 Baltic 17.09
5 West_Asian 13.66
6 Red_Sea 2.93
7 South_Asian 2.64
8 Amerindian 0.81
9 Siberian 0.69
10 Sub-Saharan 0.15
11 Oceanian 0.14
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 7.52
2 Bulgarian 7.65
3 Greek_Thessaly 8.34
4 Tuscan 10.83
5 Serbian 11.03
6 North_Italian 11.47
7 Italian_Abruzzo 11.76
8 Central_Greek 13.74
9 West_Sicilian 13.75
10 East_Sicilian 14.98
11 Moldavian 16.9
12 South_Italian 17.43
13 Portuguese 17.72
14 Ashkenazi 18.13
15 Spanish_Extremadura 18.13
16 Hungarian 18.17
17 Spanish_Galicia 18.35
18 French 18.62
19 Spanish_Cataluna 19.27
20 Austrian 19.33
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 61.6% Central_Greek + 38.4% East_German @ 3.75
2 55.5% South_Italian + 44.5% East_German @ 3.87
3 59% Central_Greek + 41% Austrian @ 3.88
4 59.7% Italian_Abruzzo + 40.3% Moldavian @ 3.92
5 80.2% Greek_Thessaly + 19.8% Irish @ 3.98
6 63.6% Italian_Abruzzo + 36.4% Croatian @ 4.05
7 80.7% Greek_Thessaly + 19.3% West_Scottish @ 4.1
8 52.7% South_Italian + 47.3% Austrian @ 4.13
9 70.1% Italian_Abruzzo + 29.9% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 4.16
10 80.1% Greek_Thessaly + 19.9% Orcadian @ 4.18
11 79.9% Greek_Thessaly + 20.1% Southwest_English @ 4.2
12 74.6% Greek_Thessaly + 25.4% South_Dutch @ 4.21
13 73.3% Greek_Thessaly + 26.7% West_German @ 4.23
14 78.6% Greek_Thessaly + 21.4% North_German @ 4.23
15 80.1% Greek_Thessaly + 19.9% North_Dutch @ 4.3
16 65.9% Italian_Abruzzo + 34.1% East_German @ 4.31
17 80% Greek_Thessaly + 20% Danish @ 4.31
18 71.4% Italian_Abruzzo + 28.6% Ukrainian @ 4.33
19 81.2% Greek_Thessaly + 18.8% Norwegian @ 4.33
20 69.9% Central_Greek + 30.1% Swedish @ 4.34
So low Baltic?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
Yes, but the results make sense if you consider the sum of N_Atlantic and Baltic. And in that case they also correspond to those of the other Moldovan Bulgarian that Leto donated.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aspirin
https://i.imgur.com/vf5jGaR.png
In any case, the guy is from there. I reached out to him because he was matching some Moldovans from my database and he confirmed that.
On an unrelated note, I managed to get the Stefan Voda samples on GEDmatch and I can confirm three things:
1. They are from the same village, as on average the relation between them is 70cM, meaning 4th cousins or at great-great-grandparent level, which is something expected in a small village.
2. They are not Gagauz, as they don't match the 10 academic Gagauz and the others that I have.
3. They are Moldovan, even the most Southern one, as they match people that I already have. I've compared only the 4 most autosomally Southern ones for now, as it's a tedious manual process, but I'll analyse all of them eventually.
For example, the most Southern guy from Stefan Voda - MOL-15, and Moldovan from R. Moldova in general considering the samples that I have, is a match for: one of the Eurogenes samples that you gave me and I labelled Eurogenes_1 (CM2678489), person from Balti, Straseni, Ocnita and Ungheni. Surprisingly for me, they did not match the samples from Causeni, Cimislia or the 1/4 one from Taraclia. I didn't expect to match with Cahul samples since they are kind of far away, but I checked just in case since autosomally they score similarly. However, they are not related.
https://i.imgur.com/TqNYQIz.png
He is very southern judging by Oracle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
did you check these? is any of them even Moldovan?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
CM2678489 Moldavian
ZW2326107 Moldavian_G2a1
CZ7344575 moldavian_V02612
JA8090639 moldavian_V13693
DN1116786 moldavian_V28645
JR6490623 moldavian_V44175
GG5842270 moldavian_V46055
QY8192067 moldavian_V48759
JR2297171 moldavian_V49937
also, there is another set of 12 academic Gagauz here:
https://evolbio.ut.ee/turkic/
Ukrainian from Floresti
# Population Percent 1 Baltic 43.59 2 North_Atlantic 29.08 3 West_Med 11.28 4 East_Med 8.26 5 West_Asian 4.32 6 South_Asian 1.73 7 Amerindian 0.99 8 Sub-Saharan 0.45 9 Oceanian 0.3
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance 1 Ukrainian 3.55 2 South_Polish 3.67 3 Ukrainian_Lviv 4.78 4 Polish 4.78 5 Southwest_Russian 6.21 6 Russian_Smolensk 6.69 7 Estonian_Polish 6.7 8 Belorussian 7.13 9 Ukrainian_Belgorod 7.15 10 Croatian 8.29 11 Kargopol_Russian 11.2 12 Estonian 11.22 13 Lithuanian 11.5 14 Hungarian 11.57 15 Moldavian 11.67 16 Southwest_Finnish 12.17 17 Finnish 12.8 18 East_German 12.99 19 Erzya 13.81 20 East_Finnish 14.11
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance 1 75.7% Lithuanian + 24.3% Tuscan @ 2.33 2 84% Estonian_Polish + 16% North_Italian @ 2.53 3 74.4% Lithuanian + 25.6% North_Italian @ 2.59 4 83.1% Belorussian + 16.9% North_Italian @ 2.61 5 54.3% Belorussian + 45.7% Croatian @ 2.64 6 85.1% Estonian_Polish + 14.9% Tuscan @ 2.67 7 84.2% Belorussian + 15.8% Tuscan @ 2.76 8 60.3% Lithuanian + 39.7% Serbian @ 2.82 9 64.9% Estonian_Polish + 35.1% Hungarian @ 2.83 10 73.7% Estonian_Polish + 26.3% Serbian @ 2.85 11 56.2% Estonian_Polish + 43.8% Croatian @ 2.87 12 77.8% Lithuanian + 22.2% West_Sicilian @ 2.89 13 85.2% Estonian_Polish + 14.8% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.91 14 72.3% Belorussian + 27.7% Serbian @ 2.95 15 91.5% Polish + 8.5% Ashkenazi @ 2.96 16 89.3% Belorussian + 10.7% Sardinian @ 2.97 17 76.3% Belorussian + 23.7% Romanian @ 2.98 18 85.8% Belorussian + 14.2% West_Sicilian @ 3.03 19 77.7% Estonian_Polish + 22.3% Romanian @ 3.04 20 59% Croatian + 41% Lithuanian @ 3.05
Thanks, I'll get them, as that's a different set from the ones that I have.Quote:
Originally Posted by vbnetkhio
Yes, my analysis is buried somewhere in this thread.
But TL;DR
These are unmixed:
CM2678489
ZW2326107
QY8192067
JR2297171
CZ7344575
This one scores in the Moldovan range but is recently mixed going by matches:
GG5842270
Full Russian and Ukrainian:
JA8090639
JR6490623
3/4 Ukrainian, 1/4 Roma:
DN1116786
did you analyze the Romanian samples from here?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
https://evolbio.ut.ee/jew/
Please share his Dodecad components.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
The partially Romani Ukrainian is interesting
Population
Gedrosia 6.53 Pct
Siberian 1.35 Pct
Northwest_African 0.45 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 19.26 Pct
North_European 49.11 Pct
South_Asian 7.62 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 2.96 Pct
East_Asian 0.17 Pct
Caucasus 12.40 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.11 Pct
Target: Ukr-Roma
Distance: 1.3475% / 1.34749191 | ADC: 0.25x
70.2 Ukrainian
18.0 Rus_Kostroma
5.8 Bnei_Menashe_Jews
4.4 Hakkipikki
1.2 North_Kannadi
0.4 Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh
Perhaps I could get a better fit by deleting some of the populations.
Hmm no, I'm wondering if those are the Behar samples. I'll take a look either in the evening or tomorrow. ThanksQuote:
Originally Posted by vbnetkhio
Here you go:Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
Population Gedrosia 2.23 Pct Siberian 0.86 Pct Northwest_African - Southeast_Asian - Atlantic_Med 22.41 Pct North_European 55.04 Pct South_Asian 1.56 Pct East_African 1.07 Pct Southwest_Asian 1.43 Pct East_Asian - Caucasus 15.40 Pct Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: MD-Ukr
3.84204373 Ukrainian
4.60158668 PL_Mazovia
4.90499745 Rus_Smolensk
5.22980879 Rus_Kostroma
5.42155882 Belorussian
7.13655379 Rus_Tver
7.32351691 Sorb_Lusatia
7.39269910 Southwest_Rus
8.63756910 Hungarians
11.39108862 Mixed_Slav
Target: MD-Ukr
Distance: 2.6822% / 2.68215901 | ADC: 0.5x
51.8 PL_Mazovia
41.0 Ukrainian
7.2 Bulgarians
Target: MD-Ukr
Distance: 1.6292% / 1.62915917 | ADC: 0.25x
81.2 PL_Mazovia
12.8 Bulgarians
5.4 Mixed_Slav
0.4 Sandawe_He
0.2 Pulliyar
The default Oracles for K12b on GEDmatch are absolutely horrible for this sample.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
From Capaclia, Cantemir, R. Moldova
1/8 Ukrainian, but that's too distant, so basically unmixed
# Population Percent 1 North_Atlantic 25.66 2 Baltic 20.54 3 West_Med 19.38 4 East_Med 19.11 5 West_Asian 7.46 6 Red_Sea 3.14 7 Siberian 1.97 8 East_Asian 1.73 9 Northeast_African 0.71 10 Oceanian 0.31
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance 1 Romanian 5.92 2 Bulgarian 6.67 3 Serbian 7.95 4 Greek_Thessaly 9.97 5 North_Italian 11.2 6 Tuscan 11.64 7 Moldavian 14.7 8 Italian_Abruzzo 14.91 9 Hungarian 15.31 10 West_Sicilian 15.51 11 Portuguese 16.28 12 Central_Greek 16.58 13 Austrian 16.83 14 Spanish_Galicia 16.97 15 Croatian 16.98 16 French 17.06 17 East_Sicilian 17.37 18 Spanish_Extremadura 17.4 19 Spanish_Cataluna 17.99 20 Spanish_Murcia 18.26
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance 1 74.3% Tuscan + 25.7% Erzya @ 2.1 2 73.4% Tuscan + 26.6% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.28 3 71.1% Tuscan + 28.9% Southwest_Russian @ 2.53 4 71.5% Tuscan + 28.5% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.76 5 68.4% Tuscan + 31.6% Ukrainian @ 2.77 6 69% West_Sicilian + 31% Estonian @ 2.81 7 72.7% Tuscan + 27.3% Estonian_Polish @ 2.83 8 56.1% Tuscan + 43.9% Moldavian @ 2.86 9 60.4% Serbian + 39.6% Tuscan @ 2.9 10 66.7% West_Sicilian + 33.3% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.92 11 68.6% West_Sicilian + 31.4% Finnish @ 2.93 12 67.4% Tuscan + 32.6% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.93 13 75.4% Tuscan + 24.6% East_Finnish @ 2.95 14 75.1% Bulgarian + 24.9% Spanish_Murcia @ 2.97 15 72.5% Tuscan + 27.5% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.99 16 73.1% Tuscan + 26.9% Belorussian @ 3.01 17 72.9% Bulgarian + 27.1% Portuguese @ 3.02 18 75.8% Tuscan + 24.2% Lithuanian @ 3.04 19 59.8% Tuscan + 40.2% Croatian @ 3.08 20 60.9% West_Sicilian + 39.1% South_Polish @ 3.08
Distance to: Cantemir 7.50525149 Moldova_South 9.22417476 Gagauz 11.71836166 Moldova_Centre 15.80900376 Moldova_North 20.64463126 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk 26.64522096 Ukrainian_Lviv 27.83752683 Crimean_Tatar 27.97768933 Ukrainian 30.80834140 Romania_Dobruja-Tatar 33.50253274 Roma_Unmixed_Moldova 33.82336175 Russian_Smolensk 40.54052764 RU_Pinega
Target: Cantemir
Distance: 7.5053% / 7.50525149 | ADC: 0.25x100.0 Moldova_South 0.0 Crimean_Tatar 0.0 Gagauz 0.0 Moldova_Centre 0.0 Moldova_North 0.0 Romania_Dobruja-Tatar 0.0 Ukrainian 0.0 Ukrainian_Lviv 0.0 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk 0.0 Roma_Unmixed_Moldova 0.0 RU_Pinega 0.0 Russian_Smolensk
Target: Cantemir
Distance: 7.5053% / 7.50525149100.0 Moldova_South 0.0 Crimean_Tatar 0.0 Gagauz 0.0 Moldova_Centre 0.0 Moldova_North 0.0 Romania_Dobruja-Tatar 0.0 Ukrainian 0.0 Ukrainian_Lviv 0.0 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk 0.0 Roma_Unmixed_Moldova 0.0 RU_Pinega 0.0 Russian_Smolensk
Apparently at least some (if not all) Balkan natives did resemble Southern or Central Italians.
74.3% Tuscan + 25.7% Erzya @ 2.1
@Ion Basescul, are your Moldovan averages for Dodecad K12b good enough and don't need revisiting?
They are outdated by now, as I gave you only my family, the Centre-North samples from Balti and South samples from Stefan Voda.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
But I'm not using K12b, so I won't calculate the others anytime soon.
Those averages are from 46 unmixed samples and now I have 87, so you are 41 samples behind.
I don't care much about sample size as long as they appear representative. I personally use a lot of averages based on 5-10 samples only.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
Looks like I am one of the few people who use K12b. But that doesn't matter to me because I use it largely for Eastern Europeans and West/Central Asians and for many of them my updated oracles work just fine.
"Славно наши братья болгары в южной Молдове погуляли."
They have, just like East Slavs, Gagauz, Jews, Gypsies and even Germans, but this person doesn't seem to have anything Bulgarian in their family tree. Seems to be a typical profile for the Southern regions (although the surname is kind of rare for the South, but the 5th most popular in Edinet), even in people without Bulgarian or Gagauz admixture.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aspirin
To be fair, Capaclia doesn't mean anything in Romanian, so who knows what kind of settlement it started as. Capaclia is surrounded by mostly 99% Romanian/Moldovan villages, but there is one exception at 3km from it. It's called Visniovca and 16% of the population is Gagauz and Bulgarian.
This line still make sense.
https://sun9-25.userapi.com/c206724/...ZdViFRRtwE.jpg
https://sun9-10.userapi.com/c206724/...fNWvyYs4xc.jpg
Yes, but you need another one in the North. For example Cantemir is more Moldovan than your native district, according to both the 2004 and 2014 censuses.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aspirin
Is that line supposed to show the Bulgarian/Gagauz admix? If so then it actually goes a bit further North, all the way to Tighina/Bender.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aspirin
https://i.imgur.com/JazZLXu.png
Cantemir district have a visible Bulgarian minority, you already posted a Bulgarian from here who was very Southern with only 17% Baltic. Bay the way, after I saw the name of the village of that Bulgarian I remembered what I have a friend with origins from that village, he is Moldavian, and his surname (not Bulgarian) is from that area, despite he live in Cahul district now. The most interesting part is when he start to tell about his ancestry. xDQuote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/16/92...eeba6f0798.gif
I actually have a person with that surname, but they are from Targoviste in Dambovita. Autosomally would fit in Cantemir though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aspirin
https://i.imgur.com/epHrBjO.png
About Căușeni and Ștefan Vodă I don't believe they are very southern, need more samples from that area.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
He have very mixed ancestry, he claim to have Ukrainian, Russian, Bulgarian, Romanian (interesting he name Romanian as separate ethnicity, and he claim what this ancestry is from Romanian territory) and Turkish. For a moment I didn't understand what he means by the Turkish, when he explained what this mean Gagauz. Seems what some Moldavians in the South name Gagauz Turks, despite them to be only turkified Bulgarians, judging by their genetics.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul