Dodecad k12b West, Central & South Asian results Vol. 3

I don't consider the Volga Tatars Central Asian, although they do have a good amount of what can be called 'Central Asian blood'. Posting this guy mainly because I have his photos.

https://ibb.co/RvvsrqN
https://ibb.co/P6PtB4g

Gedrosia 6.55 Pct
Siberian 13.57 Pct
Northwest_African 1.49 Pct
Southeast_Asian 1.68 Pct
Atlantic_Med 12.94 Pct
North_European 43.05 Pct
South_Asian 1.54 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 2.01 Pct
East_Asian 5.36 Pct
Caucasus 11.81 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Ramil
3.77436087 Tatar_Kazan
8.07897890 Chuvash
11.72607351 Komi
12.97884047 Udmurt
13.35673987 Mari
16.50274220 Veps
20.00821081 MD_North
20.10776467 Mordovian
20.28138309 HUN_Szekely
20.55638100 Rus_Tver

Target: Ramil
Distance: 1.8968% / 1.89681076 | ADC: 0.25x
67.6 Tatar_Kazan
19.2 Chuvash
9.2 Mordovian
2.4 Egyptans
0.8 Algerian
0.6 Cambodians
0.2 Yemen_Jews

He is from Northern Kazakhstan but obviously of Volga Tatar extraction

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Originally Posted by Leto

I don't consider the Volga Tatars Central Asian, although they do have a good amount of what can be called 'Central Asian blood'. Posting this guy mainly because I have his photos.

https://ibb.co/RvvsrqN
https://ibb.co/P6PtB4g

Gedrosia 6.55 Pct
Siberian 13.57 Pct
Northwest_African 1.49 Pct
Southeast_Asian 1.68 Pct
Atlantic_Med 12.94 Pct
North_European 43.05 Pct
South_Asian 1.54 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 2.01 Pct
East_Asian 5.36 Pct
Caucasus 11.81 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Ramil
3.77436087 Tatar_Kazan
8.07897890 Chuvash
11.72607351 Komi
12.97884047 Udmurt
13.35673987 Mari
16.50274220 Veps
20.00821081 MD_North
20.10776467 Mordovian
20.28138309 HUN_Szekely
20.55638100 Rus_Tver

Target: Ramil
Distance: 1.8968% / 1.89681076 | ADC: 0.25x
67.6 Tatar_Kazan
19.2 Chuvash
9.2 Mordovian
2.4 Egyptans
0.8 Algerian
0.6 Cambodians
0.2 Yemen_Jews

He is from Northern Kazakhstan but obviously of Volga Tatar extration

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This guy looks almost identical to a Serbian teacher I had, interesting considering the difference in ethnicity

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Originally Posted by Dr_Maul

This guy looks almost identical to a Serbian teacher I had, interesting considering the difference in ethnicity

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Yeah, interesting, though I was thinking the Tatar guy shows some Turkic influence, does he not?

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Originally Posted by Leto

Yeah, interesting, though I was thinking the Tatar guy shows some Turkic influence, does he not?

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I agree with Maul, he looks pseudo Balkan.

Northern Azeris (Republic of Azerbaijan)

Gedrosia 20.19 Pct
Siberian 2.62 Pct
Northwest_African 2.44 Pct
Southeast_Asian 1.04 Pct
Atlantic_Med 5.34 Pct
North_European 9.71 Pct
South_Asian 2.09 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 10.51 Pct
East_Asian 4.13 Pct
Caucasus 41.91 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Gedrosia 22.99 Pct
Siberian 2.47 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 8.30 Pct
North_European 6.57 Pct
South_Asian 3.98 Pct
East_African 1.45 Pct
Southwest_Asian 12.31 Pct
East_Asian 2.34 Pct
Caucasus 39.60 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Gedrosia 21.14 Pct
Siberian 1.69 Pct
Northwest_African 0.74 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 6.98 Pct
North_European 9.57 Pct
South_Asian 2.52 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 11.26 Pct
East_Asian 4.62 Pct
Caucasus 41.47 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Kurd from Tunceli/Turkey:

Gedrosia: 26.67 Pct
Siberian: 0.99 Pct
Northwest_African: 1.46 Pct
Southeast_Asian: 0.97 Pct
Atlantic_Med: 10.22 Pct
North_European: 3.36 Pct
South_Asian: 0.27 Pct
East_African: 0.51 Pct
Southwest_Asian: 11.71 Pct
East_Asian: -
Caucasus: 43.79 Pct
Sub_Saharan: -

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Originally Posted by Bender1999

Kurd from Tunceli/Turkey:

Gedrosia: 26.67 Pct
Siberian: 0.99 Pct
Northwest_African: 1.46 Pct
Southeast_Asian: 0.97 Pct
Atlantic_Med: 10.22 Pct
North_European: 3.36 Pct
South_Asian: 0.27 Pct
East_African: 0.51 Pct
Southwest_Asian: 11.71 Pct
East_Asian: -
Caucasus: 43.79 Pct
Sub_Saharan: -

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Why some Kurds from Turkey look like Kurdish + Armenian/Anatolian mixes. Especially Zaza. Maybe he is a Zaza?

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Originally Posted by Kyp

Why some Kurds from Turkey look like Kurdish + Armenian/Anatolian mixes. Especially Zaza. Maybe he is a Zaza?

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Because most Armenians mixed with Kurds in Ottoman times

A Paki - How come we have no Punjabi average?

Gedrosian: 37.96
Siberian: 1.33
Northwest_African: 0.00
Southeast_Asian: 1.57
Atlantic_Med: 3.57
North_European: 9.23
South_Asian: 36.94
East_African: 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 0.00
East_Asian: 2.19
Caucasus: 6.82
Sub_Saharan: 0.39

Distance to: Pakp
9.70656479 Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh
10.78792844 Meena
11.32480022 PAK_Kohistani
11.98764364 Jatt
12.35732172 Kshatriya
13.45654859 Brahmins_from_Tamil_Nadu
13.98724419 Cochin_Jews
14.17824742 Indian
15.20695236 Sindhi
15.48584515 Burusho
15.82062894 Iyer
16.90091713 Pathan
16.98583822 Pashtun_Yusafzai
17.16162580 Iyengar
19.19898435 Pashtun_Uthmankhel
19.53179971 Lambadi
19.55033248 Kalash
19.68718873 Pashtun_Tarkalani
19.72296631 Bengali
19.73750744 Nuristani
20.53768731 Kho
20.89055768 Meghawal
21.02763420 Kurmi
21.18906086 Tharus
21.30599446 Bnei_Menashe_Jews

Target: Pakp
Distance: 1.5776% / 1.57762153 | ADC: 0.25x
36.6 PAK_Kohistani
32.4 Meena
22.4 Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh
2.8 Cochin_Jews
2.6 Brahmins_from_Uttaranchal
2.0 Sardinian
1.2 Khasi

Azerbaijani from Ismayilli Rayon:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...baijan.svg.png

From Reddit

Gedrosian: 19.68
Siberian: 2.52
Northwest_African: 0.55
Southeast_Asian: 0.85
Atlantic_Med: 6.20
North_European: 15.89
South_Asian: 1.84
East_African: 0.52
Southwest_Asian: 11.39
East_Asian: 2.07
Caucasus: 38.50
Sub_Saharan: 0.00

Distance to: Azerbaijani_Ismayili
6.75975591 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
7.64318651 Azerbaijani
8.37991050 Azerbaijani_Turkey
8.50657393 Azerbaijani_Iran
9.32615676 Turk_Southeast
9.85277626 Turk_South
10.18859657 Turk_Central_East
10.26169089 Ingush
10.28110403 Qumuq
10.55658562 Turk_Anatolia
10.81363029 Kurd_Kurmanji
10.86347090 Turk_Central_West
10.95337847 Karachay
11.04709917 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
11.09507098 Zaza
11.11988759 Balkar
11.15581911 Chechen
11.27491463 Talysh_Azerbaijan
11.48503809 Turk_West_BlackSea
11.63818285 Udi_Azerbaijan
12.12398449 Turk_East
12.13549752 Turk_Southwest
12.13938631 Kurd_Sorani
12.27700289 Turkmen_Iraq
12.29483225 Lezgin

Target: Azerbaijani_Ismayili
Distance: 2.9504% / 2.95038529 | ADC: 0.5x
71.6 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
12.2 Turk_West_BlackSea
11.8 Turk_South
4.4 Kuwait1

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Originally Posted by Edgü

Because most Armenians mixed with Kurds in Ottoman times

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Also true for Turks from places Bayburt, Erzurum, Sebinkarahisar, Erzincan.
Tunceli's southern provinces (Malazgird, Cemisgezek, Merkez,Pertek) were armenian majority or 50/50 population, but all the villages were mixed kurdish(zaza mostly) alevi+armenian. there are also sunni turks in those areas since 300. years. most of the region was ruled by local tribes till the republic. The armenians assimilated into the kurds in these regions.
but that sample has too much gedrosia for such a mix. seems an odd admixture.

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Originally Posted by Kyp

Azerbaijani from Ismayilli Rayon:
[IMG]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e5/Ismailli_in_Azerbaijan.svg/1200px-Ismailli_in_Azerbaijan.svg.png

From Reddit

Gedrosian: 19.68
Siberian: 2.52
Northwest_African: 0.55
Southeast_Asian: 0.85
Atlantic_Med: 6.20
North_European: 15.89
South_Asian: 1.84
East_African: 0.52
Southwest_Asian: 11.39
East_Asian: 2.07
Caucasus: 38.50
Sub_Saharan: 0.00

Distance to: Azerbaijani_Ismayili
6.75975591 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
7.64318651 Azerbaijani
8.37991050 Azerbaijani_Turkey
8.50657393 Azerbaijani_Iran
9.32615676 Turk_Southeast
9.85277626 Turk_South
10.18859657 Turk_Central_East
10.26169089 Ingush
10.28110403 Qumuq
10.55658562 Turk_Anatolia
10.81363029 Kurd_Kurmanji
10.86347090 Turk_Central_West
10.95337847 Karachay
11.04709917 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
11.09507098 Zaza
11.11988759 Balkar
11.15581911 Chechen
11.27491463 Talysh_Azerbaijan
11.48503809 Turk_West_BlackSea
11.63818285 Udi_Azerbaijan
12.12398449 Turk_East
12.13549752 Turk_Southwest
12.13938631 Kurd_Sorani
12.27700289 Turkmen_Iraq
12.29483225 Lezgin

Target: Azerbaijani_Ismayili
Distance: 2.9504% / 2.95038529 | ADC: 0.5x
71.6 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
12.2 Turk_West_BlackSea
11.8 Turk_South
4.4 Kuwait1

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Wow, massive Lezgic/North Caucasian admixture. Although his Gedrosia is not particularly high. Full Lezgins are 25-27%.

Nayman Nogay from Daghestan, Y-DNA N-323:

Gedrosia: 18.58 Pct
Siberian: 12.30 Pct
Northwest_African: -
Southeast_Asian: -
Atlantic_Med: 5.77 Pct
North_European: 19.70 Pct
South_Asian: 1.92 Pct
East_African: -
Southwest_Asian: 1.76 Pct
East_Asian: 15.96 Pct
Caucasus: 23.99 Pct
Sub_Saharan: -

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Originally Posted by Kyp

Why some Kurds from Turkey look like Kurdish + Armenian/Anatolian mixes. Especially Zaza. Maybe he is a Zaza?

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Something something 19th century something something...

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Originally Posted by Dr_Maul

Something something 19th century something something...

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Somewhere in Germany Hadouken just had a seizure. I hope he still reads these threads.

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Originally Posted by Aren

Somewhere in Germany Hadouken just had a seizure. I hope he still reads these threads.

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Yeah, fucking Hadouken is still obsessed with TA, he even once messaged me asking me to add him to some list. Why can't he just come back? If TA still matters to him.

By the way, Aren, if you want to see more Assyrians and fewer Turks, why won't you start with your own Dodecad results? It's the 10th page of a third thread and you haven't posted them yet.

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Originally Posted by Leto

Yeah, fucking Hadouken is still obsessed with TA, he even once messaged me asking me to add him to some list. Why can't he just come back? If TA still matters to him.

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I was just gonna write this too. Why doesn't he come back? Not that I want him to come back, he needs professional help. Is he permabanned?

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Originally Posted by Leto

By the way, Aren, if you want to see more Assyrians and fewer Turks, why won't you start with your own Dodecad results? It's the 10th page of a third thread and you haven't posted them yet.

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Assyrian results are boring. I'm atm more interested in Muslims from Iraq, Syria, Jordan and Lebanon. Also you guys, both you and Kyp seem to be able to find kits I can't find. Are you looking on specific Facebook pages or other forums?

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Originally Posted by Aren

I was just gonna write this too. Why doesn't he come back? Not that I want him to come back, he needs professional help. Is he permabanned?

Assyrian results are boring. I'm atm more interested in Muslims from Iraq, Syria, Jordan and Lebanon. Also you guys, both you and Kyp seem to be able to find kits I can't find. Are you looking on specific Facebook pages or other forums?

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I'm in some Facebook groups (Turkish and Azerbaijani DNA). But most results I find via Gedmatch matching.

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Originally Posted by Aren

I was just gonna write this too. Why doesn't he come back? Not that I want him to come back, he needs professional help. Is he permabanned?

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I think he is permanently banned. But that means nothing. How many sock puppets of Cumansky have been banned for example? 6 or 7? And yes, Hadouken does have certain mental issues.

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Assyrian results are boring. I'm atm more interested in Muslims from Iraq, Syria, Jordan and Lebanon. Also you guys, both you and Kyp seem to be able to find kits I can't find. Are you looking on specific Facebook pages or other forums?

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Um, I usually browse through the matches of an interesting kit I've found. But I am not focused on Iraq, Syria, that kind of places. I can't even tell who is who by their names. I do try hard to fish out any North Caucasians and Central Asians that are available, that's my main focus regarding this thread.
I'd say there is no shortage of Iranians on Gedmatch, Lebanese people are pretty numerous as well. Armenians, Azerbaijanis, Georgians exist in decent numbers, especially the first. For Iraq we have that huge-ass Iraqi Project account but Syria and Jordan are definitely underrepresented.

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Originally Posted by Kyp

I'm in some Facebook groups (Turkish and Azerbaijani DNA). But most results I find via Gedmatch matching.

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Here's are some Iranians I found matching with Assyrians. Where are they from?

UN3970441

Gedrosia 25.88 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 8.21 Pct
North_European 9.29 Pct
South_Asian 6.10 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 10.65 Pct
East_Asian 4.38 Pct
Caucasus 35.48 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Iranian1
5.63204226 Iran_Khorasan
6.74968888 Iranian_Fars
7.34710827 Azerbaijani_Iran
7.55003973 Azerbaijani
8.21429242 Kurd_Kurmanji
8.55731851 Talysh_Azerbaijan
8.61530615 Kurd_Sorani
8.86238681 Iranian
8.88673731 Azerbaijani_Turkey
9.28780921 Lur_Iran
9.54657006 Zaza
10.00031999 Turkmen_Iraq
10.41367850 Iran_Mazandaran
10.56551939 Turk_Southeast
10.95577017 Kurd_KAZ
11.40656390 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
12.34629094 Turkmen_Iran
13.19651469 Turkmen
13.27356772 Turk_South
13.42821284 Udi_Azerbaijan
13.44329201 Turk_Central_East
14.30223409 Turk_Anatolia
14.45208635 Turk_Central_West
14.63679610 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
14.64704748 Iraqi_Baghdad

PB9623507

Gedrosia 22.97 Pct
Siberian 0.20 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.61 Pct
Atlantic_Med 7.39 Pct
North_European 11.64 Pct
South_Asian 5.28 Pct
East_African 0.32 Pct
Southwest_Asian 12.42 Pct
East_Asian 2.16 Pct
Caucasus 36.49 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.53 Pct

Distance to: Iranian2
5.66013251 Azerbaijani
5.90033897 Azerbaijani_Iran
7.06385164 Kurd_Kurmanji
7.31299528 Azerbaijani_Turkey
7.39908778 Kurd_Sorani
7.92219035 Iranian_Fars
8.04357508 Talysh_Azerbaijan
8.26445400 Zaza
8.27053203 Iran_Khorasan
8.40800809 Turk_Southeast
8.61261865 Turkmen_Iraq
9.44073620 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
9.64554301 Iranian
10.02115762 Lur_Iran
10.53056979 Kurd_KAZ
11.30428237 Turk_South
11.30551635 Turk_Central_East
11.48785881 Udi_Azerbaijan
11.86711844 Iran_Mazandaran
12.28418902 Turk_Anatolia
12.33691209 Turk_Central_West
12.56476024 Turk_East
12.70656523 Iraqi_Baghdad
12.90041085 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
13.63829535 Turkmen_Iran

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Originally Posted by Aren

Here's are some Iranians I found matching with Assyrians. Where are they from?

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Decent N European so either NorthEast or Northwest for both.

Top one has high South Asian, Gedrosia and lower SW Asian. Could be a Persian from Mashhad or Khorasan in general or a Khorasani Turk, or a mix of both.
Bottom has higher SW Asian and less Gedrosia/South Asian, most likely from NW, most likely an Azeri but could be Kurdish possibly.

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Originally Posted by Leto

I think he is permanently banned. But that means nothing. How many sock puppets of Cumansky have been banned for example? 6 or 7? And yes, Hadouken does have certain mental issues.

Um, I usually browse through the matches of an interesting kit I've found. But I am not focused on Iraq, Syria, that kind of places. I can't even tell who is who by their names. I do try hard to fish out any North Caucasians and Central Asians that are available, that's my main focus regarding this thread.
I'd say there is no shortage of Iranians on Gedmatch, Lebanese people are pretty numerous as well. Armenians, Azerbaijanis, Georgians exist in decent numbers, especially the first. For Iraq we have that huge-ass Iraqi Project account but Syria and Jordan are definitely underrepresented.

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Well I can tell apart Christians from Muslims from the Levant by their names, however the Muslims are hard to tell from where they are and whether or not they have recent Turkish, Kurdish or other ancestry. I'm gonna ask the user who created the various Syrian averages for some Syrian Arab kits, maybe I can find more.

Ancient 3500 years old sample found in Hatay/Reyhanli inside a fountain. Kit Num: PU8517420
(https://www.google.com/maps/place/Va...8gEwAHoECAUQAQ)

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Gedrosia 49.56
2 Caucasus 26.23
3 South_Asian 9.61
4 North_European 7.00
5 Southwest_Asian 4.78
6 Siberian 2.48


Finished reading population data. 223 populations found.
12 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Pathan_HGDP @ 21.392851
2 Tajiks_Yunusbayev @ 23.448580
3 Turkmens_Yunusbayev @ 24.580427
4 Makrani_HGDP @ 24.901503
5 Iranians_Behar @ 24.946396
6 Burusho_HGDP @ 26.328735
7 Balochi_HGDP @ 26.988928
8 Iranian_Dodecad @ 27.499123
9 Kurd_Dodecad @ 28.860224
10 Kurds_Yunusbayev @ 30.383644
11 Sindhi_HGDP @ 30.828781
12 Jatt_Dodecad @ 31.156761
13 Brahui_HGDP @ 34.265549
14 Lezgins_Behar @ 35.212723
15 Bnei_Menashe_Jews_Behar @ 37.357319
16 Kumyks_Yunusbayev @ 39.095703
17 Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar @ 39.391056
18 Chechens_Yunusbayev @ 42.085972
19 Turks_Behar @ 42.414841
20 Meena_Metspalu @ 42.934296

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Brahui_HGDP +50% Chechens_Yunusbayev @ 7.897983


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Balochi_HGDP +25% Georgians_Behar +25% Pathan_HGDP @ 4.674562


Using 4 populations approximation:
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1 Balochi_HGDP + Balochi_HGDP + Georgians_Behar + Pathan_HGDP @ 4.674562
2 Balochi_HGDP + Georgians_Behar + Makrani_HGDP + Pathan_HGDP @ 4.887719
3 Abhkasians_Yunusbayev + Balochi_HGDP + Balochi_HGDP + Pathan_HGDP @ 5.074496
4 Brahui_HGDP + Georgians_Behar + Makrani_HGDP + Pathan_HGDP @ 5.120246
5 Balochi_HGDP + Brahui_HGDP + Georgians_Behar + Pathan_HGDP @ 5.154492
6 Abhkasians_Yunusbayev + Balochi_HGDP + Makrani_HGDP + Pathan_HGDP @ 5.164994
7 Georgians_Behar + Makrani_HGDP + Makrani_HGDP + Pathan_HGDP @ 5.489050
8 Balochi_HGDP + Balochi_HGDP + Burusho_HGDP + Georgians_Behar @ 5.540467
9 Abhkasians_Yunusbayev + Brahui_HGDP + Makrani_HGDP + Pathan_HGDP @ 5.591595
10 Abhkasians_Yunusbayev + Makrani_HGDP + Makrani_HGDP + Pathan_HGDP @ 5.637033
11 Balochi_HGDP + Burusho_HGDP + Georgians_Behar + Makrani_HGDP @ 5.683065
12 Abhkasians_Yunusbayev + Balochi_HGDP + Brahui_HGDP + Pathan_HGDP @ 5.722422
13 Balochi_HGDP + Brahui_HGDP + Georgians_Behar + Tajiks_Yunusbayev @ 5.899959
14 Brahui_HGDP + Burusho_HGDP + Georgians_Behar + Makrani_HGDP @ 5.979517
15 Abhkasians_Yunusbayev + Balochi_HGDP + Balochi_HGDP + Burusho_HGDP @ 6.033005
16 Brahui_HGDP + Brahui_HGDP + Georgians_Behar + Tajiks_Yunusbayev @ 6.038315
17 Balochi_HGDP + Brahui_HGDP + Burusho_HGDP + Georgians_Behar @ 6.045189
18 Abhkasians_Yunusbayev + Balochi_HGDP + Burusho_HGDP + Makrani_HGDP @ 6.070923
19 Burusho_HGDP + Georgians_Behar + Makrani_HGDP + Makrani_HGDP @ 6.172461
20 Brahui_HGDP + Brahui_HGDP + Georgians_Behar + Pathan_HGDP @ 6.181248

https://im.haberturk.com/2020/08/20/...67_810x458.jpg

Various south asians.

Bengali Muslim - Kit CS8643695 - J-M241
1 87.9% Dharkars (Metspalu) + 12.1% Han (HGDP) @ 2.31

Spoiler!

# Population Percent
1 South_Asian 49.42
2 Gedrosia 30.31
3 East_Asian 7.01
4 Southeast_Asian 5.25
5 North_European 5.03
6 Southwest_Asian 1.72
7 Caucasus 0.83
8 East_African 0.43

Pashtun/Sindh/Punjabi mix(?) Muslim name. - Kit H422996
1 71.8% Pathan (HGDP) + 28.2% Kurumba (Metspalu) @ 3.87

Spoiler!

# Population Percent
1 Gedrosia 41.13
2 South_Asian 35.05
3 Caucasus 12.54
4 North_European 7.34
5 Siberian 1.74
6 East_Asian 1.23
7 Southwest_Asian 0.81
8 East_African 0.15

Brahmin/upper caste Tamil - Kit Z739402
1 91% Iyengar (Dodecad) + 9% Armenians (Behar) @ 1.34

Spoiler!

# Population Percent
1 South_Asian 47.71
2 Gedrosia 35.71
3 North_European 6.03
4 Caucasus 5.93
5 Atlantic_Med 1.71
6 Southwest_Asian 1.49
7 Siberian 1.16
8 Northwest_African 0.23
9 Southeast_Asian 0.03

Brahmin/upper caste Tamil - Kit M455356
1 85.9% Iyengar (Dodecad) + 14.1% Nogais (Yunusbayev) @ 2.08

Spoiler!

1 South_Asian 45.31
2 Gedrosia 34.76
3 North_European 9.65
4 Caucasus 6.65
5 Siberian 1.39
6 East_Asian 1.19
7 Northwest_African 0.53
8 Southwest_Asian 0.46
9 Atlantic_Med 0.07

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Originally Posted by Aren

Here's are some Iranians I found matching with Assyrians. Where are they from?

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First one looks like Khorasan but could be mixed

Second one has a genealogy tree online. And he has ancestry from Kerman and Khorasan. However one grandmother is hidden, so i don't know about the missing 25%. Surname leads to Azerbaijan origin but you can't base the ethnicity on it. Just regional.

Interesting Iranian. Azeri(?)
Y-DNA L-M20.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 41.45
2 Gedrosia 20.86
3 Southwest_Asian 13.1
4 Atlantic_Med 10.25
5 North_European 7.43
6 East_Asian 2.69
7 Siberian 1.88
8 Southeast_Asian 0.95
9 South_Asian 0.94
10 East_African 0.31
11 Northwest_African 0.14

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Turks (Behar) 7.34
2 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 7.89
3 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 8.34
4 Kurd (Dodecad) 8.72
5 Iranian (Dodecad) 9.3
6 Turkish (Dodecad) 9.34
7 Iranians (Behar) 12.11
8 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 12.73
9 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 12.83
10 Assyrian (Dodecad) 13.26


Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 56.8% Turkish (Dodecad) + 43.2% Iranians (Behar) @ 2.3
2 51.8% Kurd (Dodecad) + 48.2% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 2.37
3 63.4% Turks (Behar) + 36.6% Iranians (Behar) @ 2.75
4 89.8% Turks (Behar) + 10.2% Brahui (HGDP) @ 3.02
5 53.2% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 46.8% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 3.02
6 55% Turks (Behar) + 45% Kurd (Dodecad) @ 3.07
7 88.2% Turks (Behar) + 11.8% Makrani (HGDP) @ 3.09
8 73.5% Kurd (Dodecad) + 26.5% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 3.16
9 50.1% Iranian (Dodecad) + 49.9% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 3.19
10 88.9% Turks (Behar) + 11.1% Balochi (HGDP) @ 3.21

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Originally Posted by Fedora

Ancient 3500 years old sample found in Hatay/Reyhanli inside a fountain. Kit Num: PU8517420
(https://www.google.com/maps/place/Va...8gEwAHoECAUQAQ)

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Mitanni?

Various Turkisches. All of them with decent Eurasian input

Turk from Black Sea region - N-M231
1 92.1% Turks (Behar) + 7.9% FIN30 (1000Genomes) @ 4.22

Spoiler!

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 39.79
2 Gedrosia 16
3 North_European 12.81
4 Southwest_Asian 11.27
5 Atlantic_Med 9.6
6 Siberian 3.57
7 East_Asian 2.59
8 Southeast_Asian 2.01
9 South_Asian 1.07
10 Northwest_African 0.76
11 East_African 0.51
12 Sub_Saharan 0.01
Kit T717086

Turk from Kahramanmaraş(?) - R1a1a1
1 66.6% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 33.4% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 5.58

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Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 32.93
2 Atlantic_Med 17.74
3 North_European 12.95
4 Gedrosia 10.47
5 Southwest_Asian 8.67
6 Siberian 8.07
7 East_Asian 6.21
8 Southeast_Asian 1.68
9 South_Asian 0.57
10 East_African 0.36
11 Northwest_African 0.2
12 Sub_Saharan 0.14
Kit CB4670055

Turk. No Y-DNA
1 76.9% Turkish (Dodecad) + 23.1% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 3.65

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Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 40.28
2 Gedrosia 15.16
3 Atlantic_Med 11.54
4 Southwest_Asian 11.42
5 North_European 10.26
6 Siberian 4.93
7 East_Asian 4.12
8 Southeast_Asian 1.02
9 East_African 0.63
10 South_Asian 0.49
11 Northwest_African 0.16
Kit T932961

Idk whether this is a sample or the average, Turkmen:


Gedrosia: 18.86 Pct
Siberian: 10.29 Pct
Northwest_African: -
Southeast_Asian: -
Atlantic_Med: 7.06 Pct
North_European: 12.21 Pct
South_Asian: 6.57 Pct
East_African: -
Southwest_Asian: 8.43 Pct
East_Asian: 7.90 Pct
Caucasus: 26.68 Pct
Sub_Saharan: -

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Originally Posted by Kyp

Mitanni?

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Well, the other results in that region resemble the Cappadocian Greek-Lebanese/Coastal Arabs. An ancient sample from Malatya found in a cave resembles the Christian Arabs. Seems like Kura_Araxes/Armenian/Pontic shift happened in the region. It was ruled by Assyrians that regin?
This sample resembles South Central Asian samples from the Bactria culture. I don't know much about Mitanni. Seems like the Levant and Central Asia was connected! We found Cappadocian Greek like results in northern India also!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bactri...ogical_Complex

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Originally Posted by Dr_Maul

Various Turkisches. All of them with decent Eurasian input

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This is actually massive for Turkey

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 32.93
2 Atlantic_Med 17.74
3 North_European 12.95
4 Gedrosia 10.47
5 Southwest_Asian 8.67
6 Siberian 8.07
7 East_Asian 6.21
8 Southeast_Asian 1.68
9 South_Asian 0.57
10 East_African 0.36
11 Northwest_African 0.2
12 Sub_Saharan 0.14

~16%.

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Originally Posted by Leto

This is actually massive for Turkey

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 32.93
2 Atlantic_Med 17.74
3 North_European 12.95
4 Gedrosia 10.47
5 Southwest_Asian 8.67
6 Siberian 8.07
7 East_Asian 6.21
8 Southeast_Asian 1.68
9 South_Asian 0.57
10 East_African 0.36
11 Northwest_African 0.2
12 Sub_Saharan 0.14

~16%.

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The highest result is 20% to this day, resembles Seljuk-Ottoman era results found in central anatolia. :D

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Originally Posted by Leto

This is actually massive for Turkey

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 32.93
2 Atlantic_Med 17.74
3 North_European 12.95
4 Gedrosia 10.47
5 Southwest_Asian 8.67
6 Siberian 8.07
7 East_Asian 6.21
8 Southeast_Asian 1.68
9 South_Asian 0.57
10 East_African 0.36
11 Northwest_African 0.2
12 Sub_Saharan 0.14

~16%.

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Edit:@Dr Maul did you mean Karaman or Kahramanmaras?

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Originally Posted by Bender1999

If this person is from Karaman, then no surprising, true Turkmen city. But i never saw a result from there honestly.

Edit:@Dr Maul did you mean Karaman or Kahramanmaras?

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Kahramanmaraş

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Originally Posted by Leto

This is actually massive for Turkey

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 32.93
2 Atlantic_Med 17.74
3 North_European 12.95
4 Gedrosia 10.47
5 Southwest_Asian 8.67
6 Siberian 8.07
7 East_Asian 6.21
8 Southeast_Asian 1.68
9 South_Asian 0.57
10 East_African 0.36
11 Northwest_African 0.2
12 Sub_Saharan 0.14

~16%.

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Agreed, its quite a bit. Although I would not rule out recent added Turkic ancestry

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Originally Posted by Dr_Maul

Kahramanmaraş

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Cool, thanks. Although it is very south eastern, there were/are a lot of Turkmen tribes:

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-qwXKsUKEB...eri_nerede.jpg

I would expect the same Turkic hotspots for Gaziantep and Osmaniye.

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Originally Posted by Dr_Maul

Kahramanmaraş

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What made you believe it's from KM?

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Originally Posted by Bender1999

Cool, thanks. Although it is very south eastern, there were/are a lot of Turkmen tribes:

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-qwXKsUKEB...eri_nerede.jpg

I would expect the same Turkic hotspots for Gaziantep and Osmaniye.

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The average is around 7-8% in those regions. Same for Antep. Especially the minority Sunni Kurds in those places end up getting turkified and marrieing local Turks will change it even more.

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Originally Posted by Kyp

What made you believe it's from KM?

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I found the person