What's Your Y-DNA Haplogroup?

Hi Lenny,

Interested in your remark about I1 being a "ruling class" element in the Nordic region. Hadn't heard that before. What is the basis for it?

Also, isn't Iceland at least 35% I1?

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Originally Posted by Gurgen Khan

Hi Lenny,

Interested in your remark about I1 being a "ruling class" element in the Nordic region. Hadn't heard that before. What is the basis for it?

Also, isn't Iceland at least 35% I1?

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Only Jarl Birger(founder of Stockholm) and his son are proven to be I1 if I rember correctly. The rest of the rulers/chiefs/kings could be anything

Iceland is like 30%-35% I1 indeed but studies on the Iceland are bad sampled

Thanks Artek. I knew about the Jarl Birger line. I think most of the North Germanic ruling families were/are R1 types in the paternal line... :rolleyes2::cool:

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Originally Posted by Gurgen Khan

Thanks Artek. I knew about the Jarl Birger line. I think most of the North Germanic ruling families were/are R1 types in the paternal line... :rolleyes2::cool:

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Chance would have it that way. Anyway there are some ancient DNA studies going on in Denmark atm from all different time periods, so it might give us an idea of what the haplogroup assortion was like in the past. Might find that there was more or less I1, R1, i suppose.

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Originally Posted by Jackson

Chance would have it that way. Anyway there are some ancient DNA studies going on in Denmark atm from all different time periods, so it might give us an idea of what the haplogroup assortion was like in the past. Might find that there was more or less I1, R1, i suppose.

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I think that the R1b in North Germanics is younger than R1a(and I1 obviously) but in such countries like Denmark or Netherlands it become more successful and overnumbered older lineages. Going after it, samples should go from I1/R1a predominance rather to the R1b predominance in younger periods. Let us hope that the study will prove that.

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Originally Posted by Artek

I think that the R1b in North Germanics is younger than R1a(and I1 obviously) but in such countries like Denmark or Netherlands it become more successful and overnumbered older lineages. Going after it, samples should go from I1/R1a predominance rather to the R1b predominance in younger periods. Let us hope that the study will prove that.

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I think that would be the case.

Where do you get these tests and how much do they cost?

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Originally Posted by HansBiebel

Where do you get these tests and how much do they cost?

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23&me, 99$. that's the cheapest, but is very good.

Well, 23andme told me I2, so I'm pretty sure it's I2*.
Which is pretty rare and ancient, so go me!