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Hi Lenny,
Interested in your remark about I1 being a "ruling class" element in the Nordic region. Hadn't heard that before. What is the basis for it?
Also, isn't Iceland at least 35% I1?


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Last edited by Artek; 05-21-2013 at 10:16 AM.
R1a-Z282>Z280>CTS1211>Y35>CTS3402>Y33>CTS8816>Y2902>Y3226>YP5224>BY27800
N1c-L1026>CTS10760>VL29>Z4908>L550>L1025>M2783>Y5580>L591>BY158>Y5576
R1a-Z282>Z280>CTS1211>YP1019>YP1020>YP1033*
R1b-U152>L2>DF103>S14469
It's still not an end.
R1a and R1b unite - Join!


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Thanks Artek. I knew about the Jarl Birger line. I think most of the North Germanic ruling families were/are R1 types in the paternal line...![]()






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Chance would have it that way. Anyway there are some ancient DNA studies going on in Denmark atm from all different time periods, so it might give us an idea of what the haplogroup assortion was like in the past. Might find that there was more or less I1, R1, i suppose.




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I think that the R1b in North Germanics is younger than R1a(and I1 obviously) but in such countries like Denmark or Netherlands it become more successful and overnumbered older lineages. Going after it, samples should go from I1/R1a predominance rather to the R1b predominance in younger periods. Let us hope that the study will prove that.
R1a-Z282>Z280>CTS1211>Y35>CTS3402>Y33>CTS8816>Y2902>Y3226>YP5224>BY27800
N1c-L1026>CTS10760>VL29>Z4908>L550>L1025>M2783>Y5580>L591>BY158>Y5576
R1a-Z282>Z280>CTS1211>YP1019>YP1020>YP1033*
R1b-U152>L2>DF103>S14469
It's still not an end.
R1a and R1b unite - Join!






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Where do you get these tests and how much do they cost?






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Well, 23andme told me I2, so I'm pretty sure it's I2*.
Which is pretty rare and ancient, so go me!
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