Post your Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 results

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Originally Posted by FaerieQueene

Yes, your Jew ancestors must have came from Babylon since you are getting lots of Assyrian/Mandean, whereas mine from Canaan since I am getting lots of Samaritan/Druze.

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Yes, you're the Israelite and I'm the Babylonian ironically.

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Originally Posted by Ruben

Why does Sephardim all of a sudden comes in the 6th place, while all other calculators don't even present Sephardim in all of my (2 populations approximations) top 10?


Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Southeast_English +50% Tuscan @ 7.105
2 50% Southwest_English +50% Tuscan @ 7.438
3 50% Irish +50% Tuscan @ 7.448
4 50% French +50% Tuscan @ 7.588
5 50% German +50% Tuscan @ 7.630
6 50% Irish +50% Sephardic_Jewish @ 7.750
7 50% Tuscan +50% West_Scottish @ 7.805
8 50% Sephardic_Jewish +50% West_Scottish @ 7.907
9 50% Danish +50% Tuscan @ 7.994
10 50% Sephardic_Jewish +50% Southeast_English @ 8.243

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 62.8% Tuscan + 37.2% Irish @ 5.03
2 63.6% Tuscan + 36.4% West_Scottish @ 5.12
3 60.6% Tuscan + 39.4% Southeast_English @ 5.25
4 63.3% Tuscan + 36.7% Danish @ 5.48
5 60.5% Southwest_English + 39.5% Sephardic_Jewish @ 5.57
6 59.8% Southeast_English + 40.2% Sephardic_Jewish @ 5.64
7 60.2% Tuscan + 39.8% Southwest_English @ 5.71
8 77.8% French + 22.2% Turkish @ 5.73
9 57.5% Irish + 42.5% Sephardic_Jewish @ 5.74
10 81.5% French + 18.5% Armenian @ 5.79
11 81.5% French + 18.5% Assyrian @ 5.79
12 83.3% Spanish_Cataluna + 16.7% Georgian @ 5.8
13 80% Spanish_Cataluna + 20% Kumyk @ 5.82
14 81.3% Spanish_Cataluna + 18.7% Lezgin @ 5.93
15 82% Spanish_Cataluna + 18% Adygei @ 5.93
16 84.5% Spanish_Cataluna + 15.5% Abhkasian @ 5.97
17 80.1% French + 19.9% Lebanese_Muslim @ 5.99
18 80.6% Spanish_Murcia + 19.4% Lezgin @ 6
19 66.2% Tuscan + 33.8% Orcadian @ 6.06
20 56.6% West_Scottish + 43.4% Sephardic_Jewish @ 6.07

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Someone will know better than me but there were lots of Sephardim in both Holland and Italy so maybe you're a member of the tribe?

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Originally Posted by Anglojew

Yes, you're the Israelite and I'm the Babylonian ironically.

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Yes, very true and very ironic. But not that ironic if you think about it.....

23andme says i'm 100 % European, and in Jtest i'm ony 5,27 % Ashkenazi, so I don't think there's a link to being partially Jewish my friend. I was hoping some people here would know if the new EUtest had more Sephardim samples.
The reason I ask this is because in no other calculator Sephardim was even mentioned, but I had on some calculators Ashkenazi after Southern Italian, Greek or Tuscan.
These calculators calculate the distance between my genome and the reference populalations they possess, am I right? So why does Sephardim comes along all of a sudden? (after Italian)
This doesn't mean that I got Sephardim ancestors, I know enough to be sure of that, but I also know that the Eutest is one of the better calculators out there on the market, so what did they adjust to get Sephardim in the list..? Oh and I don't need people to get me in their ''tribe''

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Originally Posted by Anglojew

Someone will know better than me but there were lots of Sephardim in both Holland and Italy so maybe you're a member of the tribe?

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Can you post your 2 populations approximation, instead of only 1 and 4?

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Originally Posted by Anglojew

Yeah. I'm probably part Khazar too (or at least some other Hunnic/Turkic steppe people in antiqity). I do have some Levantine ancestry though.

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these just show possible ancestries that could create your mix. not your actual ancestry. id say that Tuscan/SE England is probably close to what you are. SE England and Dutch are very close genetically.

I know that Chad, but the thing that I was pointing out is that NO other calculator incl. the older version of Eurogenes had Sephardim included..
So I would advice to read my question again, if you want to answer it. :thumb001: Oh and Tuscan isn't that accurate because it has to be Southern Italian, but I don't know the exact difference, I would guess that Tuscan samples have more Northern European, or less East Med.
Thanks anyway bud.

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Originally Posted by Chad Rohlfsen

these just show possible ancestries that could create your mix. not your actual ancestry. id say that Tuscan/SE England is probably close to what you are. SE England and Dutch are very close genetically.

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Originally Posted by Ruben

I know that Chad, but the thing that I was pointing out is that NO other calculator incl. the older version of Eurogenes had Sephardim included..
So I would advice to read my question again, if you want to answer it. :thumb001: Oh and Tuscan isn't that accurate because it has to be Southern Italian, but I don't know the exact difference, I would guess that Tuscan samples have more Northern European, or less East Med.
Thanks anyway bud.

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Well if i remember correctly Ashkenazic Jews tend to come out pretty similar to southern Italians genetically, although i don't know about Sephardim, perhaps they are fairly similar? Very minor variations in the numbers can make somewhat big differences in the mixed mode when you are dealing with similar populations i guess. If your Italian half is similar in many ways to Sephardim, it's not surprising it comes up as an option. If you have no substantial Jewish matches on 23&me or GEDmatch then probably it is not actually Jewish, but it is just a 'nearby' population? Pretty much as Chad said...

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Originally Posted by Jackson

Well if i remember correctly Ashkenazic Jews tend to come out pretty similar to southern Italians genetically, although i don't know about Sephardim, perhaps they are fairly similar? .

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Azkhenazis are closer to Southern Italians

I got maybe 1 Jewish 3rd to distant cousin on 23andme and with Declared Ashkenazi Jewish I got one guy but he's from the Netherlands also..
My first match is from Naples (0.41% shared, 2 segments) and I more than a few Southern Italian matches there. ( Campania region, but also Sicily)
Now I got some Russian matches too, but they're on the last page of dna relatives, and also significant British matches, and one guy from Kazachstan, but his ''countries of ancestry'' shows a lot of German ancestors.
In countries of ancestry Italy is nr2 after The Netherlands, and i'm not really unsure of the fact i'm half Italian anymore due to more research I did. ( my first match along with other matches for me confirmed the possibility that my biological father is from Naples, that is too much of a coinsidence, and it was either that or French)
The only thing that came in mind was the fact that I never saw Sephardic as an option before after Southern Italian/Sicilian or Greek and Tuscan.
I've noticed that on Gedmatch almost all of my matches were of Dutch/German and British decent, and some Russians, but very few Italians.

Weren't there more ways to see the differences between Jewish and Southern Italian dna ?(perhaps other calculators like K36)

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Originally Posted by Jackson

Well if i remember correctly Ashkenazic Jews tend to come out pretty similar to southern Italians genetically, although i don't know about Sephardim, perhaps they are fairly similar? Very minor variations in the numbers can make somewhat big differences in the mixed mode when you are dealing with similar populations i guess. If your Italian half is similar in many ways to Sephardim, it's not surprising it comes up as an option. If you have no substantial Jewish matches on 23&me or GEDmatch then probably it is not actually Jewish, but it is just a 'nearby' population? Pretty much as Chad said...

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