Post your Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 results

[Anglojew]

Yes, your Jew ancestors must have came from Babylon since you are getting lots of Assyrian/Mandean, whereas mine from Canaan since I am getting lots of Samaritan/Druze.

Yes, you're the Israelite and I'm the Babylonian ironically.

[Anglojew]

Why does Sephardim all of a sudden comes in the 6th place, while all other calculators don't even present Sephardim in all of my (2 populations approximations) top 10?


Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Southeast_English +50% Tuscan @ 7.105
2 50% Southwest_English +50% Tuscan @ 7.438
3 50% Irish +50% Tuscan @ 7.448
4 50% French +50% Tuscan @ 7.588
5 50% German +50% Tuscan @ 7.630
6 50% Irish +50% Sephardic_Jewish @ 7.750
7 50% Tuscan +50% West_Scottish @ 7.805
8 50% Sephardic_Jewish +50% West_Scottish @ 7.907
9 50% Danish +50% Tuscan @ 7.994
10 50% Sephardic_Jewish +50% Southeast_English @ 8.243

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 62.8% Tuscan + 37.2% Irish @ 5.03
2 63.6% Tuscan + 36.4% West_Scottish @ 5.12
3 60.6% Tuscan + 39.4% Southeast_English @ 5.25
4 63.3% Tuscan + 36.7% Danish @ 5.48
5 60.5% Southwest_English + 39.5% Sephardic_Jewish @ 5.57
6 59.8% Southeast_English + 40.2% Sephardic_Jewish @ 5.64
7 60.2% Tuscan + 39.8% Southwest_English @ 5.71
8 77.8% French + 22.2% Turkish @ 5.73
9 57.5% Irish + 42.5% Sephardic_Jewish @ 5.74
10 81.5% French + 18.5% Armenian @ 5.79
11 81.5% French + 18.5% Assyrian @ 5.79
12 83.3% Spanish_Cataluna + 16.7% Georgian @ 5.8
13 80% Spanish_Cataluna + 20% Kumyk @ 5.82
14 81.3% Spanish_Cataluna + 18.7% Lezgin @ 5.93
15 82% Spanish_Cataluna + 18% Adygei @ 5.93
16 84.5% Spanish_Cataluna + 15.5% Abhkasian @ 5.97
17 80.1% French + 19.9% Lebanese_Muslim @ 5.99
18 80.6% Spanish_Murcia + 19.4% Lezgin @ 6
19 66.2% Tuscan + 33.8% Orcadian @ 6.06
20 56.6% West_Scottish + 43.4% Sephardic_Jewish @ 6.07

Someone will know better than me but there were lots of Sephardim in both Holland and Italy so maybe you're a member of the tribe?

[Maleficent]

Yes, you're the Israelite and I'm the Babylonian ironically.

Yes, very true and very ironic. But not that ironic if you think about it.....

[Alessio]

23andme says i'm 100 % European, and in Jtest i'm ony 5,27 % Ashkenazi, so I don't think there's a link to being partially Jewish my friend. I was hoping some people here would know if the new EUtest had more Sephardim samples.
The reason I ask this is because in no other calculator Sephardim was even mentioned, but I had on some calculators Ashkenazi after Southern Italian, Greek or Tuscan.
These calculators calculate the distance between my genome and the reference populalations they possess, am I right? So why does Sephardim comes along all of a sudden? (after Italian)
This doesn't mean that I got Sephardim ancestors, I know enough to be sure of that, but I also know that the Eutest is one of the better calculators out there on the market, so what did they adjust to get Sephardim in the list..? Oh and I don't need people to get me in their ''tribe''

Someone will know better than me but there were lots of Sephardim in both Holland and Italy so maybe you're a member of the tribe?

[Alessio]

Can you post your 2 populations approximation, instead of only 1 and 4?

Yeah. I'm probably part Khazar too (or at least some other Hunnic/Turkic steppe people in antiqity). I do have some Levantine ancestry though.

[Chad Rohlfsen]

these just show possible ancestries that could create your mix. not your actual ancestry. id say that Tuscan/SE England is probably close to what you are. SE England and Dutch are very close genetically.

[Alessio]

I know that Chad, but the thing that I was pointing out is that NO other calculator incl. the older version of Eurogenes had Sephardim included..
So I would advice to read my question again, if you want to answer it. Oh and Tuscan isn't that accurate because it has to be Southern Italian, but I don't know the exact difference, I would guess that Tuscan samples have more Northern European, or less East Med.
Thanks anyway bud.

these just show possible ancestries that could create your mix. not your actual ancestry. id say that Tuscan/SE England is probably close to what you are. SE England and Dutch are very close genetically.

[Jackson]

I know that Chad, but the thing that I was pointing out is that NO other calculator incl. the older version of Eurogenes had Sephardim included..
So I would advice to read my question again, if you want to answer it. Oh and Tuscan isn't that accurate because it has to be Southern Italian, but I don't know the exact difference, I would guess that Tuscan samples have more Northern European, or less East Med.
Thanks anyway bud.

Well if i remember correctly Ashkenazic Jews tend to come out pretty similar to southern Italians genetically, although i don't know about Sephardim, perhaps they are fairly similar? Very minor variations in the numbers can make somewhat big differences in the mixed mode when you are dealing with similar populations i guess. If your Italian half is similar in many ways to Sephardim, it's not surprising it comes up as an option. If you have no substantial Jewish matches on 23&me or GEDmatch then probably it is not actually Jewish, but it is just a 'nearby' population? Pretty much as Chad said...

[YeshAtid]

Well if i remember correctly Ashkenazic Jews tend to come out pretty similar to southern Italians genetically, although i don't know about Sephardim, perhaps they are fairly similar? .

Azkhenazis are closer to Southern Italians

[Alessio]

I got maybe 1 Jewish 3rd to distant cousin on 23andme and with Declared Ashkenazi Jewish I got one guy but he's from the Netherlands also..
My first match is from Naples (0.41% shared, 2 segments) and I more than a few Southern Italian matches there. ( Campania region, but also Sicily)
Now I got some Russian matches too, but they're on the last page of dna relatives, and also significant British matches, and one guy from Kazachstan, but his ''countries of ancestry'' shows a lot of German ancestors.
In countries of ancestry Italy is nr2 after The Netherlands, and i'm not really unsure of the fact i'm half Italian anymore due to more research I did. ( my first match along with other matches for me confirmed the possibility that my biological father is from Naples, that is too much of a coinsidence, and it was either that or French)
The only thing that came in mind was the fact that I never saw Sephardic as an option before after Southern Italian/Sicilian or Greek and Tuscan.
I've noticed that on Gedmatch almost all of my matches were of Dutch/German and British decent, and some Russians, but very few Italians.

Weren't there more ways to see the differences between Jewish and Southern Italian dna ?(perhaps other calculators like K36)

Well if i remember correctly Ashkenazic Jews tend to come out pretty similar to southern Italians genetically, although i don't know about Sephardim, perhaps they are fairly similar? Very minor variations in the numbers can make somewhat big differences in the mixed mode when you are dealing with similar populations i guess. If your Italian half is similar in many ways to Sephardim, it's not surprising it comes up as an option. If you have no substantial Jewish matches on 23&me or GEDmatch then probably it is not actually Jewish, but it is just a 'nearby' population? Pretty much as Chad said...