VLATKO VUKOVIC's autosomal!

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Originally Posted by Dibran

Aren't Gorani basically just a minority slavic tribe that never formed nationhood?

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They might be muslim Bulgarians/Macedonians or southern Serbs with distinct identity. But many are culturally albanized and have albanian surnames (those from Kosovo), despite they don't speak Albanian language.

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Originally Posted by *****

That's simply not true.
I don't know why you are trying to push this agenda but that's not true.
Slovenes, Croats and Bosniaks are definitely more Slavic.
Even Serbs, I've seen many results of them and most of them are under fifty percent "South Eastern Europe" on FTDNA's MyOrigins.
Also you plot closer to Moldavians and you are rather closer to Ukrainians than to Greeks.

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False, I plot with serbs from Serbia.

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Originally Posted by Stearsolina

Albania was never Catholic state, it had more orthodox belivers before Ottomans arrived and it was in Byzantine sphere of influence.

Wrong parallel.

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Under Skanderbeg and the League of Lezhe Albania was a Catholic state and was supported by the pope on many occasions. In the north there were more Catholics than Orthodox Christians

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Originally Posted by Kelmendasi

Under Skanderbeg and the League of Lezhe Albania was a Catholic state and was supported by the pope on many occasions. In the north there were more Catholics than Orthodox Christians

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Only in the north which was more isolated from southern orthodox Albania.

Do you have gothic and romanesque architecture there, or Byzantine ? That's trademark of all Catholic states

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During the moment of schism (1054) Albanians were attached to the Eastern Orthodox Church and were all Orthodox Christians.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easter...oxy_in_Albania

A member's genetic test results thread is being drifted from its purpose to be, but just as a sidenote, North Albania under Scanderberg wasn't a state or sort of a kingdom. It was a Venetian dependency. Albanians were in the Orthodox, Byzantine, Eastern side during the 1054 West-East schism. However to this day, northern Albania has Catholic population. They aren't culturally western tho. A bit like Ukrainian Catholics.

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Originally Posted by Stearsolina

Only in the north which was more isolated from southern orthodox Albania.

Do you have gothic and romanesque architecture there, or Byzantine ? That's trademark of all Catholic states

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easter...oxy_in_Albania

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Still though Skanderbeg's Albania was a Catholic one. The northerners converted in order to resist the Orthodox Slavs. Albania probably does have some of those architectural type somewhere although most of the old architecture is Ottoman or Byzantine like as Albania was under that sphere of influence regardless of religious affiliation. I never said that Albanians weren't Orthodox at first

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Originally Posted by Böri

A member's genetic test results thread is being drifted from its purpose to be, but just as a sidenote, North Albania under Scanderberg wasn't a state or sort of a kingdom. It was a Venetian dependency. Albanians were in the Orthodox, Byzantine, Eastern side during the 1054 West-East schism.

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It was a state and was independent from Venice, true that it was at first Orthodox but many began converting into Catholicism

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Originally Posted by Marmara

It seems you haven't met much Albanians. Those i've seen (muslims) were far from being religious.

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My post wasn't about them being religious. Nevermind.

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Originally Posted by Kelmendasi

It was a state and was independent from Venice, true that it was at first Orthodox but many began converting into Catholicism

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League Lezhe etc wasn't an independent Albanian kingdom. It was Venetian dependency. Later Skanderberg himself entered under Naples sphere of influence going to Italy to fight wars there etc. Skanderberg was never a king. He was leader of Albanian landlords and local nobles who were dispossessed by Turks.

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Originally Posted by *****

What part of my theory fall's down?
If you read carefully, I was writing about all Slavic countries, not specifically for you...

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Yes, but the fact that Macedonians and South Serbs aren't related with other Slavs, doesn't make Slavs just as "linguistic group". South Slavs, East Slavs and West Slavs are genetically connected with each other, which make them ethnic group. ;)