South Slavic & neighbours Eurogenes results

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Originally Posted by andre

Just a question; i saw that a lot of Kraijna Serbs score some celto-germanic ancestry,Why?

There have been so much germans in the area that impact in autosomal dna of the local slavs?

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Other Serbs also can score some celto-germanic.

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Originally Posted by andre

Just a question; i saw that a lot of Kraijna Serbs score some celto-germanic ancestry,Why?

There have been so much germans in the area that impact in autosomal dna of the local slavs?

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Not a lot, actualy. As you can see, all these people I post is Krajina Serbs and lot of them (including me) have 0% Celto-Germanic.
Some Serbs indeed have it. My theory is that admixture came from migration of west Slavs to Balkans, from Czech land, that was prevously inhabited by Celts, who got assimilated by Slavs.

There were no German settlers in Krajina.

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Originally Posted by Dušan

Not a lot, actualy. As you can see, all these people I post is Krajina Serbs and lot of them (including me) have 0% Celto-Germanic.
Some Serbs indeed have it. My theory is that admixture came from migration of west Slavs to Balkans, from Czech land, that was prevously inhabited by Celts, who got assimilated by Slavs.

There were no German settlers in Krajina.

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Germanic influence can be from various sources.

Before Slavic migration Goths were present in western Balkan and Gepids in modern Vojvodina, in Belgrade and part of Šumadija.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gepids..._of_the_Gepids
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ostrogothic_Kingdom
Slavs for sure absorbed some Goths and Gepids, we have Macure I1-Z63 who probably carry "Gothic" paternal line.

In late 11th century Normans from southern Italy lead by Robert Guiscard attacked Byzantine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert...the_Byzantines
We have Drobjak clan I1-P109 whose paternal ancestor probably arrived as Norman in late 11th century.

In 13th century Saxon miners settled in Serbia and Bosnia, I2-M223 and R1b-U106 among Serbs is from them and possible some I1 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saxons_in_medieval_Serbia

Some more my matches from Gedmatch

Krajina Serb surname Bogdanović

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Богдановић – Бабин поток (Врховине), Бротња, Госпић, Оточац, Срб, Вребац, Врховине

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# Population Percent
1 Baltic 32.66
2 North_Atlantic 22.44
3 West_Med 16.44
4 East_Med 12.91
5 West_Asian 11.43
6 Red_Sea 1.85
7 Siberian 1.76
8 Amerindian 0.2
9 East_Asian 0.19
10 Oceanian 0.1
11 South_Asian 0.02

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 3.85
2 Serbian 7.02
3 Croatian 7.14
4 Romanian 8.72
5 Bulgarian 10.02
6 Hungarian 10.28
7 Ukrainian_Lviv 12.63
8 Ukrainian 13.93
9 South_Polish 14.04
10 Austrian 14.32
11 East_German 15.04
12 Southwest_Russian 16.77
13 Ukrainian_Belgorod 16.88
14 Polish 17.29
15 Greek_Thessaly 18.8
16 Russian_Smolensk 18.85
17 Estonian_Polish 19.45
18 Tatar 19.61
19 Belorussian 20.23
20 Kargopol_Russian 20.5

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 93.1% Moldavian + 6.9% Cyprian @ 2.46
2 94.2% Moldavian + 5.8% Lebanese_Christian @ 2.56
3 77.3% Moldavian + 22.7% Bulgarian @ 2.59
4 94.2% Moldavian + 5.8% Samaritan @ 2.61
5 94% Moldavian + 6% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.63
6 94.1% Moldavian + 5.9% Assyrian @ 2.63
7 90.1% Moldavian + 9.9% Central_Greek @ 2.65
8 94.2% Moldavian + 5.8% Armenian @ 2.67
9 94.4% Moldavian + 5.6% Kurdish_Jewish @ 2.69
10 93.8% Moldavian + 6.2% Lebanese_Muslim @ 2.7
11 94.4% Moldavian + 5.6% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.72
12 87.4% Moldavian + 12.6% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.75
13 90.9% Moldavian + 9.1% East_Sicilian @ 2.76
14 91.8% Moldavian + 8.2% South_Italian @ 2.77
15 94.5% Moldavian + 5.5% Iranian_Jewish @ 2.77
16 94.1% Moldavian + 5.9% Syrian @ 2.81
17 93.3% Moldavian + 6.7% Turkish @ 2.82
18 93.1% Moldavian + 6.9% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.83
19 91.5% Moldavian + 8.5% Ashkenazi @ 2.83
20 56.2% Bulgarian + 43.8% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.86

https://i.imgur.com/FVWKli5.jpg

Very similar to mine K13 result




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Krajina Serb surname Zeljković

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Зељковић – Дугопоље (Срб)

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This one is from village of my grandma


# Population Percent
1 Baltic 28.2
2 North_Atlantic 22.3
3 West_Med 18.58
4 East_Med 18.44
5 West_Asian 7.68
6 Red_Sea 2.19
7 Amerindian 1.34
8 Oceanian 1.27

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 5.4
2 Bulgarian 5.65
3 Serbian 6.05
4 Moldavian 9.55
5 Croatian 11.95
6 Hungarian 12.97
7 Greek_Thessaly 13.25
8 Austrian 16.24
9 East_German 17.59
10 North_Italian 17.93
11 Ukrainian_Lviv 18.21
12 Tuscan 18.31
13 South_Polish 19.16
14 Ukrainian 19.3
15 Italian_Abruzzo 20.27
16 Central_Greek 20.44
17 West_German 20.99
18 West_Sicilian 21.08
19 French 21.4
20 East_Sicilian 21.54

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 59.7% Greek_Thessaly + 40.3% Ukrainian @ 3.1
2 65.4% Greek_Thessaly + 34.6% Estonian_Polish @ 3.12
3 69.7% Greek_Thessaly + 30.3% Lithuanian @ 3.16
4 71.8% Croatian + 28.2% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.33
5 63.4% Greek_Thessaly + 36.6% Polish @ 3.33
6 66.1% Greek_Thessaly + 33.9% Belorussian @ 3.34
7 52.8% Croatian + 47.2% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.42
8 65.3% Greek_Thessaly + 34.7% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.45
9 60.6% Ukrainian + 39.4% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.46
10 58.3% Greek_Thessaly + 41.7% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.49
11 69.5% Greek_Thessaly + 30.5% Estonian @ 3.51
12 72% Croatian + 28% Italian_Jewish @ 3.52
13 66.1% Croatian + 33.9% Ashkenazi @ 3.54
14 60.7% Ukrainian + 39.3% Italian_Jewish @ 3.56
15 85% Bulgarian + 15% Estonian_Polish @ 3.68
16 56.3% Ukrainian + 43.7% South_Italian @ 3.68
17 59.6% Greek_Thessaly + 40.4% South_Polish @ 3.72
18 63.4% Greek_Thessaly + 36.6% Southwest_Russian @ 3.72
19 81.8% Bulgarian + 18.2% Ukrainian @ 3.77
20 87.5% Bulgarian + 12.5% Lithuanian @ 3.77

https://i.imgur.com/JqWAACv.jpg

Serbian woman from Krajina.

#Population Percent
1 Baltic 33.19
2 North_Atlantic 26.83
3 West_Med 14.73
4 East_Med 11.61
5 West_Asian 9.59
6 Red_Sea 1
7 Oceanian 0.99
8 Amerindian 0.85
9 South_Asian 0.74
10 Northeast_African 0.47

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance:
1 Moldavian 2.91
2 Croatian 3.65
3 Hungarian 5.97
4 Serbian 6.67
5 Ukrainian_Lviv 10.11
6 Romanian 10.2
7 Austrian 10.23
8 East_German 10.71
9 South_Polish 10.71
10 Ukrainian 11.41
11 Bulgarian 12.34
12 Polish 14.23
13 Southweet_Russian 14.88
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 15.03
15 Russian_Smolensk 16.46
16 Estonian_Polish 17.11
17 West_German 17.43
18 Belorussian 17.67
19 South_Dutch 18.93
20 Kargopol_Russian 19.09

Mixed Population Sharing:

#Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 75.1% Croatian + 24.9% Romanian @ 1.47
2 89.1% Croatian + 10.9% Italian_Abruzzo @ 1.5
3 78.8% Croatian + 21.2% Bulgarian @ 1.57
4 89.6% Croatian + 10.4% Central_Greek @ 1.62
5 90.9% Croatian + 9.1% South_Italian @ 1.65
6 58.4% Romanian + 41.6% Polish @ 1.66
7 66.7% Croatian + 33.3% Serbian @ 1.71
8 90.1% Croatian + 9.9% East_Sicilian @ 1.75
10 93.8% Croatian + 6.2% Armenian @ 1.77
11 90% Croatian + 10% West_Sicilian @ 1.8
12 93.1% Croatian + 6.9% Cyprian @ 1.82
13 92.3% Croatian + 7.7% Sephardic_Jewish @ 1.82
14 92.3% Croatian + 7.7% Italian_Jewish @ 1.83
15 93.8% Croatian + 6.2% Assyrian @ 1.86
16 93.4% Croatian + 6.6% Lebanese_Muslim @ 1.87
17 92.6% Croatian + 7.4% Turkish @ 1.87
18 93.9% Croatian + 6.1% Lebanese_Druze @ 1.89
19 53.6% South_Polish + 46.4% Bulgarian @ 1.9
20 94.1% Croatian + 5.9% Kurdish_Jewish @ 1.92


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If someone is interested for her kit, or name and surname let speak to me on pm. I have already shown kit to some members including egy Magyar nő.

Woman from Bosnia. Serbian father (from Zavidovići), Bosniak mother:

Spoiler!

Kit GE4396977

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 31.54
2 North_Atlantic 22.68
3 East_Med 14.04
4 West_Med 13.52
5 West_Asian 12.62
6 East_Asian 1.45
7 Amerindian 1.23
8 Oceanian 0.9
9 South_Asian 0.83
10 Red_Sea 0.76
11 Northeast_African 0.43

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 5.17
2 Serbian 7.04
3 Croatian 8.18
4 Romanian 8.36
5 Bulgarian 9.57
6 Hungarian 10.32
7 Ukrainian_Lviv 13.59
8 Austrian 14.61
9 South_Polish 14.69
10 Ukrainian 14.86
11 East_German 15.52
12 Ukrainian_Belgorod 17.17
13 Southwest_Russian 17.3
14 Polish 18.01
15 Greek_Thessaly 18.39
16 Russian_Smolensk 19.52
17 Tatar 20.13
18 Estonian_Polish 20.24
19 West_German 20.75
20 Belorussian 20.85

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 84.7% Croatian + 15.3% Armenian @ 2.41
2 84.5% Croatian + 15.5% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.43
3 84.7% Croatian + 15.3% Assyrian @ 2.53
4 64.9% Bulgarian + 35.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.69
5 82.9% Croatian + 17.1% Azeri @ 2.7
6 81.9% Croatian + 18.1% Turkish @ 2.73
7 59.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 40.6% Central_Greek @ 2.76
8 84.4% Croatian + 15.6% Kurdish @ 2.76
9 90.8% Moldavian + 9.2% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.81
10 90.8% Moldavian + 9.2% Assyrian @ 2.81
11 90.9% Moldavian + 9.1% Armenian @ 2.84
12 63.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 36.6% South_Italian @ 2.84
13 85.5% Croatian + 14.5% Kurdish_Jewish @ 2.9
14 91.2% Moldavian + 8.8% Iranian_Jewish @ 2.92
15 91.3% Moldavian + 8.7% Kurdish_Jewish @ 2.93
16 90.7% Moldavian + 9.3% Kurdish @ 2.93
17 85.3% Croatian + 14.7% Iranian_Jewish @ 2.94
18 59.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 40.9% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.99
19 89.8% Moldavian + 10.2% Azeri @ 2.99
20 91.4% Moldavian + 8.6% Lebanese_Druze @ 3.06

The interesting part are her mother's results. This is not the first Bosniak I've seen on gedmatch that has partial Gypsy ancestry. Looks like they're not so pure as you'd guess by how they talk about Serbians in online comments:

Spoiler!

Kit RU6169471

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 29.4
2 North_Atlantic 19.29
3 West_Med 15.62
4 East_Med 12.71
5 West_Asian 10.87
6 South_Asian 5.2
7 Red_Sea 2.68
8 Oceanian 2.02
9 East_Asian 1.59
10 Northeast_African 0.6
11 Amerindian 0.01

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 7.66
2 Serbian 9.07
3 Romanian 9.33
4 Bulgarian 9.97
5 Croatian 10.95
6 Hungarian 13.51
7 Ukrainian_Lviv 15.89
8 Austrian 17.09
9 Greek_Thessaly 17.13
10 Ukrainian 17.38
11 South_Polish 17.61
12 East_German 17.9
13 Ukrainian_Belgorod 19.94
14 Southwest_Russian 19.96
15 Polish 20.57
16 Tatar 20.81
17 Russian_Smolensk 21.9
18 Estonian_Polish 22.53
19 North_Italian 22.56
20 West_German 22.68

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 86.7% Moldavian + 13.3% Syrian @ 4.86
2 88% Moldavian + 12% Iranian_Jewish @ 4.95
3 86.9% Moldavian + 13.1% Lebanese_Muslim @ 5.01
4 88.2% Moldavian + 11.8% Kurdish_Jewish @ 5.01
5 87.9% Moldavian + 12.1% Assyrian @ 5.06
6 87.5% Moldavian + 12.5% Iranian @ 5.06
7 87.7% Moldavian + 12.3% Jordanian @ 5.11
8 88.3% Moldavian + 11.7% Samaritan @ 5.13
9 85.4% Moldavian + 14.6% Turkish @ 5.15
10 88% Moldavian + 12% Bedouin @ 5.16
11 86.4% Moldavian + 13.6% Azeri @ 5.16
12 88% Moldavian + 12% Georgian_Jewish @ 5.18
13 88.6% Moldavian + 11.4% Lebanese_Christian @ 5.2
14 86.9% Moldavian + 13.1% Cyprian @ 5.23
15 88.3% Moldavian + 11.7% Palestinian @ 5.26
16 88.3% Moldavian + 11.7% Armenian @ 5.26
17 87.9% Moldavian + 12.1% Kurdish @ 5.27
18 92.4% Moldavian + 7.6% Velamas @ 5.28
19 91.2% Moldavian + 8.8% Bangladeshi @ 5.29
20 92.5% Moldavian + 7.5% Dusadh @ 5.32

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Originally Posted by CommonSense

Woman from Bosnia. Serbian father (from Zavidovići), Bosniak mother:

Spoiler!

Kit GE4396977

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 31.54
2 North_Atlantic 22.68
3 East_Med 14.04
4 West_Med 13.52
5 West_Asian 12.62
6 East_Asian 1.45
7 Amerindian 1.23
8 Oceanian 0.9
9 South_Asian 0.83
10 Red_Sea 0.76
11 Northeast_African 0.43

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 5.17
2 Serbian 7.04
3 Croatian 8.18
4 Romanian 8.36
5 Bulgarian 9.57
6 Hungarian 10.32
7 Ukrainian_Lviv 13.59
8 Austrian 14.61
9 South_Polish 14.69
10 Ukrainian 14.86
11 East_German 15.52
12 Ukrainian_Belgorod 17.17
13 Southwest_Russian 17.3
14 Polish 18.01
15 Greek_Thessaly 18.39
16 Russian_Smolensk 19.52
17 Tatar 20.13
18 Estonian_Polish 20.24
19 West_German 20.75
20 Belorussian 20.85

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 84.7% Croatian + 15.3% Armenian @ 2.41
2 84.5% Croatian + 15.5% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.43
3 84.7% Croatian + 15.3% Assyrian @ 2.53
4 64.9% Bulgarian + 35.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.69
5 82.9% Croatian + 17.1% Azeri @ 2.7
6 81.9% Croatian + 18.1% Turkish @ 2.73
7 59.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 40.6% Central_Greek @ 2.76
8 84.4% Croatian + 15.6% Kurdish @ 2.76
9 90.8% Moldavian + 9.2% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.81
10 90.8% Moldavian + 9.2% Assyrian @ 2.81
11 90.9% Moldavian + 9.1% Armenian @ 2.84
12 63.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 36.6% South_Italian @ 2.84
13 85.5% Croatian + 14.5% Kurdish_Jewish @ 2.9
14 91.2% Moldavian + 8.8% Iranian_Jewish @ 2.92
15 91.3% Moldavian + 8.7% Kurdish_Jewish @ 2.93
16 90.7% Moldavian + 9.3% Kurdish @ 2.93
17 85.3% Croatian + 14.7% Iranian_Jewish @ 2.94
18 59.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 40.9% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.99
19 89.8% Moldavian + 10.2% Azeri @ 2.99
20 91.4% Moldavian + 8.6% Lebanese_Druze @ 3.06

The interesting part are her mother's results. This is not the first Bosniak I've seen on gedmatch that has partial Gypsy ancestry. Looks like they're not so pure as you'd guess by how they talk about Serbians in online comments:

Spoiler!

Kit RU6169471

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 29.4
2 North_Atlantic 19.29
3 West_Med 15.62
4 East_Med 12.71
5 West_Asian 10.87
6 South_Asian 5.2
7 Red_Sea 2.68
8 Oceanian 2.02
9 East_Asian 1.59
10 Northeast_African 0.6
11 Amerindian 0.01

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 7.66
2 Serbian 9.07
3 Romanian 9.33
4 Bulgarian 9.97
5 Croatian 10.95
6 Hungarian 13.51
7 Ukrainian_Lviv 15.89
8 Austrian 17.09
9 Greek_Thessaly 17.13
10 Ukrainian 17.38
11 South_Polish 17.61
12 East_German 17.9
13 Ukrainian_Belgorod 19.94
14 Southwest_Russian 19.96
15 Polish 20.57
16 Tatar 20.81
17 Russian_Smolensk 21.9
18 Estonian_Polish 22.53
19 North_Italian 22.56
20 West_German 22.68

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 86.7% Moldavian + 13.3% Syrian @ 4.86
2 88% Moldavian + 12% Iranian_Jewish @ 4.95
3 86.9% Moldavian + 13.1% Lebanese_Muslim @ 5.01
4 88.2% Moldavian + 11.8% Kurdish_Jewish @ 5.01
5 87.9% Moldavian + 12.1% Assyrian @ 5.06
6 87.5% Moldavian + 12.5% Iranian @ 5.06
7 87.7% Moldavian + 12.3% Jordanian @ 5.11
8 88.3% Moldavian + 11.7% Samaritan @ 5.13
9 85.4% Moldavian + 14.6% Turkish @ 5.15
10 88% Moldavian + 12% Bedouin @ 5.16
11 86.4% Moldavian + 13.6% Azeri @ 5.16
12 88% Moldavian + 12% Georgian_Jewish @ 5.18
13 88.6% Moldavian + 11.4% Lebanese_Christian @ 5.2
14 86.9% Moldavian + 13.1% Cyprian @ 5.23
15 88.3% Moldavian + 11.7% Palestinian @ 5.26
16 88.3% Moldavian + 11.7% Armenian @ 5.26
17 87.9% Moldavian + 12.1% Kurdish @ 5.27
18 92.4% Moldavian + 7.6% Velamas @ 5.28
19 91.2% Moldavian + 8.8% Bangladeshi @ 5.29
20 92.5% Moldavian + 7.5% Dusadh @ 5.32

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In NE Bosnia some Gypsies of Muslim religion started to mixing with Bosniaks long time ago. I have found that in Bosniak sources.

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Originally Posted by CommonSense

Woman from Bosnia. Serbian father (from Zavidovići), Bosniak mother:

Spoiler!

Kit GE4396977

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 31.54
2 North_Atlantic 22.68
3 East_Med 14.04
4 West_Med 13.52
5 West_Asian 12.62
6 East_Asian 1.45
7 Amerindian 1.23
8 Oceanian 0.9
9 South_Asian 0.83
10 Red_Sea 0.76
11 Northeast_African 0.43

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 5.17
2 Serbian 7.04
3 Croatian 8.18
4 Romanian 8.36
5 Bulgarian 9.57
6 Hungarian 10.32
7 Ukrainian_Lviv 13.59
8 Austrian 14.61
9 South_Polish 14.69
10 Ukrainian 14.86
11 East_German 15.52
12 Ukrainian_Belgorod 17.17
13 Southwest_Russian 17.3
14 Polish 18.01
15 Greek_Thessaly 18.39
16 Russian_Smolensk 19.52
17 Tatar 20.13
18 Estonian_Polish 20.24
19 West_German 20.75
20 Belorussian 20.85

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 84.7% Croatian + 15.3% Armenian @ 2.41
2 84.5% Croatian + 15.5% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.43
3 84.7% Croatian + 15.3% Assyrian @ 2.53
4 64.9% Bulgarian + 35.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.69
5 82.9% Croatian + 17.1% Azeri @ 2.7
6 81.9% Croatian + 18.1% Turkish @ 2.73
7 59.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 40.6% Central_Greek @ 2.76
8 84.4% Croatian + 15.6% Kurdish @ 2.76
9 90.8% Moldavian + 9.2% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.81
10 90.8% Moldavian + 9.2% Assyrian @ 2.81
11 90.9% Moldavian + 9.1% Armenian @ 2.84
12 63.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 36.6% South_Italian @ 2.84
13 85.5% Croatian + 14.5% Kurdish_Jewish @ 2.9
14 91.2% Moldavian + 8.8% Iranian_Jewish @ 2.92
15 91.3% Moldavian + 8.7% Kurdish_Jewish @ 2.93
16 90.7% Moldavian + 9.3% Kurdish @ 2.93
17 85.3% Croatian + 14.7% Iranian_Jewish @ 2.94
18 59.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 40.9% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.99
19 89.8% Moldavian + 10.2% Azeri @ 2.99
20 91.4% Moldavian + 8.6% Lebanese_Druze @ 3.06

The interesting part are her mother's results. This is not the first Bosniak I've seen on gedmatch that has partial Gypsy ancestry. Looks like they're not so pure as you'd guess by how they talk about Serbians in online comments:

Spoiler!

Kit RU6169471

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 29.4
2 North_Atlantic 19.29
3 West_Med 15.62
4 East_Med 12.71
5 West_Asian 10.87
6 South_Asian 5.2
7 Red_Sea 2.68
8 Oceanian 2.02
9 East_Asian 1.59
10 Northeast_African 0.6
11 Amerindian 0.01

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 7.66
2 Serbian 9.07
3 Romanian 9.33
4 Bulgarian 9.97
5 Croatian 10.95
6 Hungarian 13.51
7 Ukrainian_Lviv 15.89
8 Austrian 17.09
9 Greek_Thessaly 17.13
10 Ukrainian 17.38
11 South_Polish 17.61
12 East_German 17.9
13 Ukrainian_Belgorod 19.94
14 Southwest_Russian 19.96
15 Polish 20.57
16 Tatar 20.81
17 Russian_Smolensk 21.9
18 Estonian_Polish 22.53
19 North_Italian 22.56
20 West_German 22.68

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 86.7% Moldavian + 13.3% Syrian @ 4.86
2 88% Moldavian + 12% Iranian_Jewish @ 4.95
3 86.9% Moldavian + 13.1% Lebanese_Muslim @ 5.01
4 88.2% Moldavian + 11.8% Kurdish_Jewish @ 5.01
5 87.9% Moldavian + 12.1% Assyrian @ 5.06
6 87.5% Moldavian + 12.5% Iranian @ 5.06
7 87.7% Moldavian + 12.3% Jordanian @ 5.11
8 88.3% Moldavian + 11.7% Samaritan @ 5.13
9 85.4% Moldavian + 14.6% Turkish @ 5.15
10 88% Moldavian + 12% Bedouin @ 5.16
11 86.4% Moldavian + 13.6% Azeri @ 5.16
12 88% Moldavian + 12% Georgian_Jewish @ 5.18
13 88.6% Moldavian + 11.4% Lebanese_Christian @ 5.2
14 86.9% Moldavian + 13.1% Cyprian @ 5.23
15 88.3% Moldavian + 11.7% Palestinian @ 5.26
16 88.3% Moldavian + 11.7% Armenian @ 5.26
17 87.9% Moldavian + 12.1% Kurdish @ 5.27
18 92.4% Moldavian + 7.6% Velamas @ 5.28
19 91.2% Moldavian + 8.8% Bangladeshi @ 5.29
20 92.5% Moldavian + 7.5% Dusadh @ 5.32

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But the woman herself scores less than 1% South Asian.

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Originally Posted by Leto

But the woman herself scores less than 1% South Asian.

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She probably still scores some South Asian and Middle Eastern on the company estimates, but I don't how much because I have her on FTDNA where I can't check.

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Originally Posted by Pribislav

Serbian woman from Krajina.

#Population Percent
1 Baltic 33.19
2 North_Atlantic 26.83
3 West_Med 14.73
4 East_Med 11.61
5 West_Asian 9.59
6 Red_Sea 1
7 Oceanian 0.99
8 Amerindian 0.85
9 South_Asian 0.74
10 Northeast_African 0.47


^^
If someone is interested for her kit, or name and surname let speak to me on pm. I have already shown kit to some members including egy Magyar nő.

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I got her among my matches in Gedmetch. Surname Đurić and she is number 11.

This is my matches on Gedmatch. All Krajina Serbs (from todays Croatia).
Green dot 12 is me, and red dot is average dot of these 12 Krajina Serbs.

https://i.imgur.com/qntHeSe.png

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Originally Posted by Dušan

I got her among my matches in Gedmetch. Surname Đurić and she is number 11.

This is my matches on Gedmatch. All Krajina Serbs (from todays Croatia).
Green dot 12 is me, and red dot is average dot of these 12 Krajina Serbs.

https://i.imgur.com/qntHeSe.png

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Yea, Đurić.

She has similar Baltic score as you (slightly lower), but higher NA.

Can you made Eartly_Slavic, Paleo-Balkan, Celto-Germanic calculator for her?

And for this Sandžakian Bosniak Attachment 96817

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Originally Posted by Pribislav

And for this Sandžakian Bosniak Attachment 96817

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This Sandžakian iz J2b, surname Tutuć.

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Pribislav

And for this Sandžakian Bosniak Attachment 96817

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Wow, straight up Bolgar. Also 20% for both East and West Med (I asked a question about that).

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Originally Posted by Leto

Wow, straight up Bolgar. Also 20% for both East and West Med (I asked a question about that).

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Sandžakians from East Sandžak are in vast majority of Albanian origin. This one is probably one of them.
Their ancestors were Catholic Albanians (Malesors) from northern Albania who settled in East Sandžak on Ottoman initiative in 18th century, Ottomans gave them land and privilegies for conversion on Islam.
East Sandžakians became bilingual in 19th century (except Albanian they started to speak Serbian which learned from islamized Serbs), after WW2 Albanian language among them almost disappeared. Today only few older Sandžakians still know Albanian language.
In Serbian Sandžak vast majority of Muslims are bosbiakized, and in Montenegrin Sandžak less but still significant https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandžak

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Originally Posted by CommonSense

Woman from Bosnia. Serbian father (from Zavidovići), Bosniak mother:

Spoiler!

Kit GE4396977

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 31.54
2 North_Atlantic 22.68
3 East_Med 14.04
4 West_Med 13.52
5 West_Asian 12.62
6 East_Asian 1.45
7 Amerindian 1.23
8 Oceanian 0.9
9 South_Asian 0.83
10 Red_Sea 0.76
11 Northeast_African 0.43

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 5.17
2 Serbian 7.04
3 Croatian 8.18
4 Romanian 8.36
5 Bulgarian 9.57
6 Hungarian 10.32
7 Ukrainian_Lviv 13.59
8 Austrian 14.61
9 South_Polish 14.69
10 Ukrainian 14.86
11 East_German 15.52
12 Ukrainian_Belgorod 17.17
13 Southwest_Russian 17.3
14 Polish 18.01
15 Greek_Thessaly 18.39
16 Russian_Smolensk 19.52
17 Tatar 20.13
18 Estonian_Polish 20.24
19 West_German 20.75
20 Belorussian 20.85

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 84.7% Croatian + 15.3% Armenian @ 2.41
2 84.5% Croatian + 15.5% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.43
3 84.7% Croatian + 15.3% Assyrian @ 2.53
4 64.9% Bulgarian + 35.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.69
5 82.9% Croatian + 17.1% Azeri @ 2.7
6 81.9% Croatian + 18.1% Turkish @ 2.73
7 59.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 40.6% Central_Greek @ 2.76
8 84.4% Croatian + 15.6% Kurdish @ 2.76
9 90.8% Moldavian + 9.2% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.81
10 90.8% Moldavian + 9.2% Assyrian @ 2.81
11 90.9% Moldavian + 9.1% Armenian @ 2.84
12 63.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 36.6% South_Italian @ 2.84
13 85.5% Croatian + 14.5% Kurdish_Jewish @ 2.9
14 91.2% Moldavian + 8.8% Iranian_Jewish @ 2.92
15 91.3% Moldavian + 8.7% Kurdish_Jewish @ 2.93
16 90.7% Moldavian + 9.3% Kurdish @ 2.93
17 85.3% Croatian + 14.7% Iranian_Jewish @ 2.94
18 59.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 40.9% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.99
19 89.8% Moldavian + 10.2% Azeri @ 2.99
20 91.4% Moldavian + 8.6% Lebanese_Druze @ 3.06

The interesting part are her mother's results. This is not the first Bosniak I've seen on gedmatch that has partial Gypsy ancestry. Looks like they're not so pure as you'd guess by how they talk about Serbians in online comments:

Spoiler!

Kit RU6169471

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 29.4
2 North_Atlantic 19.29
3 West_Med 15.62
4 East_Med 12.71
5 West_Asian 10.87
6 South_Asian 5.2
7 Red_Sea 2.68
8 Oceanian 2.02
9 East_Asian 1.59
10 Northeast_African 0.6
11 Amerindian 0.01

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 7.66
2 Serbian 9.07
3 Romanian 9.33
4 Bulgarian 9.97
5 Croatian 10.95
6 Hungarian 13.51
7 Ukrainian_Lviv 15.89
8 Austrian 17.09
9 Greek_Thessaly 17.13
10 Ukrainian 17.38
11 South_Polish 17.61
12 East_German 17.9
13 Ukrainian_Belgorod 19.94
14 Southwest_Russian 19.96
15 Polish 20.57
16 Tatar 20.81
17 Russian_Smolensk 21.9
18 Estonian_Polish 22.53
19 North_Italian 22.56
20 West_German 22.68

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 86.7% Moldavian + 13.3% Syrian @ 4.86
2 88% Moldavian + 12% Iranian_Jewish @ 4.95
3 86.9% Moldavian + 13.1% Lebanese_Muslim @ 5.01
4 88.2% Moldavian + 11.8% Kurdish_Jewish @ 5.01
5 87.9% Moldavian + 12.1% Assyrian @ 5.06
6 87.5% Moldavian + 12.5% Iranian @ 5.06
7 87.7% Moldavian + 12.3% Jordanian @ 5.11
8 88.3% Moldavian + 11.7% Samaritan @ 5.13
9 85.4% Moldavian + 14.6% Turkish @ 5.15
10 88% Moldavian + 12% Bedouin @ 5.16
11 86.4% Moldavian + 13.6% Azeri @ 5.16
12 88% Moldavian + 12% Georgian_Jewish @ 5.18
13 88.6% Moldavian + 11.4% Lebanese_Christian @ 5.2
14 86.9% Moldavian + 13.1% Cyprian @ 5.23
15 88.3% Moldavian + 11.7% Palestinian @ 5.26
16 88.3% Moldavian + 11.7% Armenian @ 5.26
17 87.9% Moldavian + 12.1% Kurdish @ 5.27
18 92.4% Moldavian + 7.6% Velamas @ 5.28
19 91.2% Moldavian + 8.8% Bangladeshi @ 5.29
20 92.5% Moldavian + 7.5% Dusadh @ 5.32

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With 0.83 noone would expect the woman to have any Gypsy ancestry. Could you post their Harappaworld results?

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Originally Posted by Pribislav

Yea, Đurić.

She has similar Baltic score as you (slightly lower), but higher NA.

Can you made Eartly_Slavic, Paleo-Balkan, Celto-Germanic calculator for her?

And for this Sandžakian Bosniak Attachment 96817

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https://i.imgur.com/Z8Lo93M.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/jKehyWH.jpg

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Originally Posted by Dušan

I got her among my matches in Gedmetch. Surname Đurić and she is number 11.

This is my matches on Gedmatch. All Krajina Serbs (from todays Croatia).
Green dot 12 is me, and red dot is average dot of these 12 Krajina Serbs.

https://i.imgur.com/qntHeSe.png

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As people can see, Krajina Serbs are not different from other Serbs.

Overlapping with Croats is minimal, and only individual.
There were no mixing with them.

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Originally Posted by Dušan

https://i.imgur.com/Z8Lo93M.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/jKehyWH.jpg

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Sandžos je jedan od Zukorloćevih talibana sa tkz. bošnjačkog dnk projekta, koji je zapravo sandžački dnk projekat.

Thanks Dusan, didn't see the kit nmb there.

Kit GE4396977

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NE-Euro 39.42
2 Mediterranean 22.58
3 Caucasian 22.55
4 Baloch 8.23
5 SW-Asian 2.75
6 SE-Asian 1.27
7 S-Indian 1.25
8 American 1.23
9 Papuan 0.58
10 E-African 0.11


Probably some other samples would be needed to properly state whether HarappaWorld is a good predictor of actual S. Indian ancestry.

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Originally Posted by WeirdLookingFellow

Thanks Dusan, didn't see the kit nmb there.

Kit GE4396977

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NE-Euro 39.42
2 Mediterranean 22.58
3 Caucasian 22.55
4 Baloch 8.23
5 SW-Asian 2.75
6 SE-Asian 1.27
7 S-Indian 1.25
8 American 1.23
9 Papuan 0.58
10 E-African 0.11


Probably some other samples would be needed to properly state whether HarappaWorld is a good predictor of actual S. Indian ancestry.

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Baloch isn't S-Indian. Gypsies score 20-25% S-Indian on HW.

Until now Pribislav posted a bunch of 'Banija Serbs', mostly forged results that were given to him by a third party, whose components matched each other in a more than suspicious way. Apart from HungryLion's own results he himself shared, Mingle posted one woman from that region. Perhaps vbnetkhio has some other kits, I'm not sure. Here's one family I found though, diverse results, but a lot of them are northeast shifted:

A woman living in Denmark, surname Milković:

Spoiler!

Kit T743171

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 33.74
2 North_Atlantic 25.67
3 West_Med 15.67
4 East_Med 15.22
5 West_Asian 7.83
6 Red_Sea 1.07
7 Oceanian 0.59
8 East_Asian 0.15
9 South_Asian 0.06

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 5.02
2 Croatian 5.79
3 Serbian 6.2
4 Hungarian 8.07
5 Romanian 9.34
6 Bulgarian 10.98
7 Ukrainian_Lviv 11.9
8 Austrian 12.23
9 South_Polish 12.35
10 Ukrainian 12.79
11 East_German 12.88
12 Polish 15.82
13 Southwest_Russian 15.92
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 16.32
15 Russian_Smolensk 17.73
16 Estonian_Polish 18.11
17 Belorussian 18.62
18 West_German 19.1
19 Greek_Thessaly 19.66
20 Kargopol_Russian 20.51

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 63.3% Bulgarian + 36.7% Belorussian @ 2.41
2 59.4% Bulgarian + 40.6% Polish @ 2.58
3 62.7% Bulgarian + 37.3% Estonian_Polish @ 2.58
4 53.1% Bulgarian + 46.9% South_Polish @ 2.62
5 68.4% Bulgarian + 31.6% Lithuanian @ 2.67
6 54% Bulgarian + 46% Ukrainian @ 2.7
7 61.8% South_Polish + 38.2% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.71
8 74.1% Ukrainian + 25.9% Italian_Jewish @ 2.72
9 60.9% Ukrainian + 39.1% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.79
10 55.6% Polish + 44.4% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.81
11 51.4% Belorussian + 48.6% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.82
12 68.1% Bulgarian + 31.9% Estonian @ 2.84
13 67.4% Romanian + 32.6% Belorussian @ 2.85
14 66.8% Romanian + 33.2% Estonian_Polish @ 2.86
15 62.3% Bulgarian + 37.7% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.86
16 85% Croatian + 15% Ashkenazi @ 2.86
17 72.2% Romanian + 27.8% Lithuanian @ 2.91
18 71.3% Ukrainian + 28.7% South_Italian @ 2.95
19 74.9% South_Polish + 25.1% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.95
20 54.2% Lithuanian + 45.8% West_Sicilian @ 2.96

Her mother, surname Rogulja:

Spoiler!

Kit KH9736050

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 30.09
2 North_Atlantic 24.82
3 West_Med 16.28
4 East_Med 13.92
5 West_Asian 10.29
6 Red_Sea 1.72
7 South_Asian 1.14
8 Oceanian 1.01
9 Amerindian 0.63
10 Northeast_African 0.09

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 4
2 Moldavian 4.73
3 Romanian 6.38
4 Croatian 7.41
5 Bulgarian 8.35
6 Hungarian 8.63
7 Austrian 12.26
8 East_German 13.4
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 13.88
10 South_Polish 14.74
11 Ukrainian 15.23
12 Greek_Thessaly 17.06
13 West_German 18.2
14 Polish 18.23
15 Southwest_Russian 18.49
16 Ukrainian_Belgorod 18.64
17 South_Dutch 19.75
18 North_Italian 20.05
19 French 20.08
20 Russian_Smolensk 20.26

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 76.6% Croatian + 23.4% Central_Greek @ 1.2
2 53.1% Croatian + 46.9% Bulgarian @ 1.33
3 79.6% Croatian + 20.4% South_Italian @ 1.39
4 70.1% Croatian + 29.9% Greek_Thessaly @ 1.47
5 58.1% Moldavian + 41.9% Romanian @ 1.56
6 53.9% Romanian + 46.1% Croatian @ 1.57
7 77.7% Croatian + 22.3% East_Sicilian @ 1.6
8 69.1% Romanian + 30.9% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 1.69
9 76.3% Croatian + 23.7% Italian_Abruzzo @ 1.72
10 65.1% Moldavian + 34.9% Bulgarian @ 1.79
11 62.8% Bulgarian + 37.2% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 1.8
12 84.1% Moldavian + 15.9% Italian_Abruzzo @ 1.81
13 83% Moldavian + 17% Tuscan @ 1.82
14 69% Bulgarian + 31% Polish @ 1.83
15 85% Moldavian + 15% West_Sicilian @ 1.85
16 71.2% Romanian + 28.8% Ukrainian @ 1.86
17 79.7% Moldavian + 20.3% Greek_Thessaly @ 1.91
18 84.5% Croatian + 15.5% Cyprian @ 1.91
19 76.8% Romanian + 23.2% Russian_Smolensk @ 1.94
20 64.3% Bulgarian + 35.7% South_Polish @ 1.96

Three other close relatives of the family:

Spoiler!

Kit Z673065

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 31.95
2 North_Atlantic 23.11
3 East_Med 17.57
4 West_Med 17
5 West_Asian 8.44
6 East_Asian 0.69
7 Red_Sea 0.68
8 Amerindian 0.55

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 6.12
2 Moldavian 7.06
3 Romanian 7.35
4 Bulgarian 8.16
5 Croatian 9.03
6 Hungarian 11.03
7 Austrian 14.97
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 15.09
9 South_Polish 15.81
10 Ukrainian 15.9
11 East_German 15.93
12 Greek_Thessaly 16.68
13 Southwest_Russian 18.78
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 19.13
15 Polish 19.17
16 Russian_Smolensk 20.86
17 West_German 20.98
18 North_Italian 21.01
19 Estonian_Polish 21.17
20 Belorussian 21.8

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 73.4% Bulgarian + 26.6% Estonian_Polish @ 2.92
2 77.4% Bulgarian + 22.6% Lithuanian @ 2.96
3 74% Bulgarian + 26% Belorussian @ 3.01
4 67.4% Bulgarian + 32.6% Ukrainian @ 3.1
5 61.4% Greek_Thessaly + 38.6% Lithuanian @ 3.21
6 51.3% Ukrainian + 48.7% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.21
7 73.4% Bulgarian + 26.6% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.24
8 71.2% Bulgarian + 28.8% Southwest_Russian @ 3.26
9 56.1% Greek_Thessaly + 43.9% Estonian_Polish @ 3.3
10 71.8% Bulgarian + 28.2% Polish @ 3.4
11 56.9% Greek_Thessaly + 43.1% Belorussian @ 3.42
12 67.9% Ukrainian + 32.1% Italian_Jewish @ 3.5
13 77.9% Bulgarian + 22.1% Estonian @ 3.52
14 53.1% Greek_Thessaly + 46.9% Southwest_Russian @ 3.54
15 60.3% Ukrainian + 39.7% Central_Greek @ 3.56
16 67.8% Ukrainian + 32.2% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.56
17 64.3% Ukrainian + 35.7% South_Italian @ 3.56
18 71.9% Bulgarian + 28.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.56
19 62.2% Ukrainian + 37.8% Ashkenazi @ 3.57
20 55.8% Greek_Thessaly + 44.2% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.58

Spoiler!

K13 Oracle ref data revised 21 Nov 2013

Kit T860720

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 36.21
2 North_Atlantic 23.3
3 West_Med 14.27
4 East_Med 12.02
5 West_Asian 10.54
6 East_Asian 1.17
7 Red_Sea 1.04
8 Amerindian 0.87
9 Siberian 0.32
10 South_Asian 0.26

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 3.56
2 Croatian 4.81
3 Ukrainian_Lviv 9.34
4 Serbian 9.43
5 Hungarian 9.56
6 Ukrainian 10.39
7 South_Polish 10.71
8 Romanian 12.01
9 Ukrainian_Belgorod 13.01
10 Southwest_Russian 13.02
11 Bulgarian 13.39
12 Polish 13.75
13 Austrian 14.08
14 East_German 14.18
15 Russian_Smolensk 15.14
16 Estonian_Polish 15.77
17 Belorussian 16.52
18 Kargopol_Russian 17.43
19 Erzya 18.37
20 Tatar 19.48

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 50.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 49.3% Bulgarian @ 1.86
2 81% Ukrainian + 19% Cyprian @ 2.22
3 63.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 36.6% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.32
4 50.7% Southwest_Russian + 49.3% Bulgarian @ 2.4
5 60.9% Bulgarian + 39.1% Lithuanian @ 2.41
6 53.2% Bulgarian + 46.8% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.47
7 52.1% Romanian + 47.9% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.55
8 69.5% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 30.5% Central_Greek @ 2.59
9 72.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 27.6% South_Italian @ 2.63
10 82.5% Ukrainian + 17.5% Assyrian @ 2.67
11 56.7% Ukrainian + 43.3% Bulgarian @ 2.72
12 81.6% Ukrainian + 18.4% Lebanese_Muslim @ 2.78
13 74.3% Ukrainian + 25.7% Central_Greek @ 2.8
14 82.7% Ukrainian + 17.3% Armenian @ 2.86
15 70.5% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 29.5% West_Sicilian @ 2.87
16 54.2% Bulgarian + 45.8% Estonian_Polish @ 2.87
17 83.3% Ukrainian + 16.7% Lebanese_Christian @ 2.88
18 83.2% Ukrainian + 16.8% Kurdish_Jewish @ 2.89
19 82.5% Ukrainian + 17.5% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.91
20 70.5% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 29.5% East_Sicilian @ 2.94

Spoiler!

Kit ZV3963031

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 35.6
2 North_Atlantic 23.97
3 West_Med 16.25
4 East_Med 12.57
5 West_Asian 9.3
6 Siberian 0.92
7 Amerindian 0.66
8 Red_Sea 0.37
9 South_Asian 0.28
10 East_Asian 0.09

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 3.4
2 Croatian 4.61
3 Serbian 8.55
4 Hungarian 9.09
5 Ukrainian_Lviv 10.01
6 Ukrainian 10.9
7 South_Polish 11.14
8 Romanian 11.18
9 Bulgarian 12.65
10 Austrian 13.38
11 East_German 13.52
12 Southwest_Russian 14.03
13 Ukrainian_Belgorod 14.31
14 Polish 14.34
15 Russian_Smolensk 16.02
16 Estonian_Polish 16.48
17 Belorussian 17.27
18 Kargopol_Russian 18.2
19 Erzya 19.44
20 Tatar 20.27

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 53.8% Ukrainian + 46.2% Bulgarian @ 2.18
2 72.8% Ukrainian + 27.2% Central_Greek @ 2.47
3 66.8% Ukrainian + 33.2% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.52
4 63.2% Bulgarian + 36.8% Lithuanian @ 2.61
5 75.6% Ukrainian + 24.4% South_Italian @ 2.65
6 56.8% Bulgarian + 43.2% Estonian_Polish @ 2.76
7 56.1% Bulgarian + 43.9% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.82
8 56.2% Ukrainian_Lviv + 43.8% Bulgarian @ 2.85
9 73.8% Ukrainian + 26.2% East_Sicilian @ 2.86
10 80.3% Ukrainian + 19.7% Cyprian @ 2.98
11 52.7% Bulgarian + 47.3% Southwest_Russian @ 3.05
12 50.7% Ukrainian + 49.3% Romanian @ 3.05
13 53.3% Bulgarian + 46.7% Polish @ 3.07
14 78.8% Croatian + 21.2% Bulgarian @ 3.22
15 92.9% Croatian + 7.1% Cyprian @ 3.23
16 58.1% Bulgarian + 41.9% Belorussian @ 3.29
17 53.3% Bulgarian + 46.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.29
18 78.4% Ukrainian + 21.6% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.29
19 80.7% Moldavian + 19.3% Croatian @ 3.32
20 95% Moldavian + 5% Southwest_Russian @ 3.33

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Originally Posted by Leto

Baloch isn't S-Indian. Gypsies score 20-25% S-Indian on HW.

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yes I forgot to remove the B there. SE Asian is also not necessarily a Gypsy component, as the one in the Moldovan thread did not present it.

Quote:

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Originally Posted by CommonSense

Until now Pribislav posted a bunch of 'Banija Serbs', mostly forged results that were given to him by a third party, whose components matched each other in a more than suspicious way. Apart from HungryLion's own results he himself shared, Mingle posted one woman from that region. Perhaps vbnetkhio has some other kits, I'm not sure. Here's one family I found though, diverse results, but a lot of them are northeast shifted:

A woman living in Denmark, surname Milković:

Spoiler!

Kit T743171

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 33.74
2 North_Atlantic 25.67
3 West_Med 15.67
4 East_Med 15.22
5 West_Asian 7.83
6 Red_Sea 1.07
7 Oceanian 0.59
8 East_Asian 0.15
9 South_Asian 0.06

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 5.02
2 Croatian 5.79
3 Serbian 6.2
4 Hungarian 8.07
5 Romanian 9.34
6 Bulgarian 10.98
7 Ukrainian_Lviv 11.9
8 Austrian 12.23
9 South_Polish 12.35
10 Ukrainian 12.79
11 East_German 12.88
12 Polish 15.82
13 Southwest_Russian 15.92
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 16.32
15 Russian_Smolensk 17.73
16 Estonian_Polish 18.11
17 Belorussian 18.62
18 West_German 19.1
19 Greek_Thessaly 19.66
20 Kargopol_Russian 20.51

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 63.3% Bulgarian + 36.7% Belorussian @ 2.41
2 59.4% Bulgarian + 40.6% Polish @ 2.58
3 62.7% Bulgarian + 37.3% Estonian_Polish @ 2.58
4 53.1% Bulgarian + 46.9% South_Polish @ 2.62
5 68.4% Bulgarian + 31.6% Lithuanian @ 2.67
6 54% Bulgarian + 46% Ukrainian @ 2.7
7 61.8% South_Polish + 38.2% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.71
8 74.1% Ukrainian + 25.9% Italian_Jewish @ 2.72
9 60.9% Ukrainian + 39.1% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.79
10 55.6% Polish + 44.4% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.81
11 51.4% Belorussian + 48.6% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.82
12 68.1% Bulgarian + 31.9% Estonian @ 2.84
13 67.4% Romanian + 32.6% Belorussian @ 2.85
14 66.8% Romanian + 33.2% Estonian_Polish @ 2.86
15 62.3% Bulgarian + 37.7% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.86
16 85% Croatian + 15% Ashkenazi @ 2.86
17 72.2% Romanian + 27.8% Lithuanian @ 2.91
18 71.3% Ukrainian + 28.7% South_Italian @ 2.95
19 74.9% South_Polish + 25.1% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.95
20 54.2% Lithuanian + 45.8% West_Sicilian @ 2.96

Her mother, surname Rogulja:

Spoiler!

Kit KH9736050

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 30.09
2 North_Atlantic 24.82
3 West_Med 16.28
4 East_Med 13.92
5 West_Asian 10.29
6 Red_Sea 1.72
7 South_Asian 1.14
8 Oceanian 1.01
9 Amerindian 0.63
10 Northeast_African 0.09

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 4
2 Moldavian 4.73
3 Romanian 6.38
4 Croatian 7.41
5 Bulgarian 8.35
6 Hungarian 8.63
7 Austrian 12.26
8 East_German 13.4
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 13.88
10 South_Polish 14.74
11 Ukrainian 15.23
12 Greek_Thessaly 17.06
13 West_German 18.2
14 Polish 18.23
15 Southwest_Russian 18.49
16 Ukrainian_Belgorod 18.64
17 South_Dutch 19.75
18 North_Italian 20.05
19 French 20.08
20 Russian_Smolensk 20.26

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 76.6% Croatian + 23.4% Central_Greek @ 1.2
2 53.1% Croatian + 46.9% Bulgarian @ 1.33
3 79.6% Croatian + 20.4% South_Italian @ 1.39
4 70.1% Croatian + 29.9% Greek_Thessaly @ 1.47
5 58.1% Moldavian + 41.9% Romanian @ 1.56
6 53.9% Romanian + 46.1% Croatian @ 1.57
7 77.7% Croatian + 22.3% East_Sicilian @ 1.6
8 69.1% Romanian + 30.9% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 1.69
9 76.3% Croatian + 23.7% Italian_Abruzzo @ 1.72
10 65.1% Moldavian + 34.9% Bulgarian @ 1.79
11 62.8% Bulgarian + 37.2% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 1.8
12 84.1% Moldavian + 15.9% Italian_Abruzzo @ 1.81
13 83% Moldavian + 17% Tuscan @ 1.82
14 69% Bulgarian + 31% Polish @ 1.83
15 85% Moldavian + 15% West_Sicilian @ 1.85
16 71.2% Romanian + 28.8% Ukrainian @ 1.86
17 79.7% Moldavian + 20.3% Greek_Thessaly @ 1.91
18 84.5% Croatian + 15.5% Cyprian @ 1.91
19 76.8% Romanian + 23.2% Russian_Smolensk @ 1.94
20 64.3% Bulgarian + 35.7% South_Polish @ 1.96

Three other close relatives of the family:

Spoiler!

Kit Z673065

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 31.95
2 North_Atlantic 23.11
3 East_Med 17.57
4 West_Med 17
5 West_Asian 8.44
6 East_Asian 0.69
7 Red_Sea 0.68
8 Amerindian 0.55

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 6.12
2 Moldavian 7.06
3 Romanian 7.35
4 Bulgarian 8.16
5 Croatian 9.03
6 Hungarian 11.03
7 Austrian 14.97
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 15.09
9 South_Polish 15.81
10 Ukrainian 15.9
11 East_German 15.93
12 Greek_Thessaly 16.68
13 Southwest_Russian 18.78
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 19.13
15 Polish 19.17
16 Russian_Smolensk 20.86
17 West_German 20.98
18 North_Italian 21.01
19 Estonian_Polish 21.17
20 Belorussian 21.8

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 73.4% Bulgarian + 26.6% Estonian_Polish @ 2.92
2 77.4% Bulgarian + 22.6% Lithuanian @ 2.96
3 74% Bulgarian + 26% Belorussian @ 3.01
4 67.4% Bulgarian + 32.6% Ukrainian @ 3.1
5 61.4% Greek_Thessaly + 38.6% Lithuanian @ 3.21
6 51.3% Ukrainian + 48.7% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.21
7 73.4% Bulgarian + 26.6% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.24
8 71.2% Bulgarian + 28.8% Southwest_Russian @ 3.26
9 56.1% Greek_Thessaly + 43.9% Estonian_Polish @ 3.3
10 71.8% Bulgarian + 28.2% Polish @ 3.4
11 56.9% Greek_Thessaly + 43.1% Belorussian @ 3.42
12 67.9% Ukrainian + 32.1% Italian_Jewish @ 3.5
13 77.9% Bulgarian + 22.1% Estonian @ 3.52
14 53.1% Greek_Thessaly + 46.9% Southwest_Russian @ 3.54
15 60.3% Ukrainian + 39.7% Central_Greek @ 3.56
16 67.8% Ukrainian + 32.2% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.56
17 64.3% Ukrainian + 35.7% South_Italian @ 3.56
18 71.9% Bulgarian + 28.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.56
19 62.2% Ukrainian + 37.8% Ashkenazi @ 3.57
20 55.8% Greek_Thessaly + 44.2% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.58

Spoiler!

K13 Oracle ref data revised 21 Nov 2013

Kit T860720

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 36.21
2 North_Atlantic 23.3
3 West_Med 14.27
4 East_Med 12.02
5 West_Asian 10.54
6 East_Asian 1.17
7 Red_Sea 1.04
8 Amerindian 0.87
9 Siberian 0.32
10 South_Asian 0.26

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 3.56
2 Croatian 4.81
3 Ukrainian_Lviv 9.34
4 Serbian 9.43
5 Hungarian 9.56
6 Ukrainian 10.39
7 South_Polish 10.71
8 Romanian 12.01
9 Ukrainian_Belgorod 13.01
10 Southwest_Russian 13.02
11 Bulgarian 13.39
12 Polish 13.75
13 Austrian 14.08
14 East_German 14.18
15 Russian_Smolensk 15.14
16 Estonian_Polish 15.77
17 Belorussian 16.52
18 Kargopol_Russian 17.43
19 Erzya 18.37
20 Tatar 19.48

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 50.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 49.3% Bulgarian @ 1.86
2 81% Ukrainian + 19% Cyprian @ 2.22
3 63.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 36.6% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.32
4 50.7% Southwest_Russian + 49.3% Bulgarian @ 2.4
5 60.9% Bulgarian + 39.1% Lithuanian @ 2.41
6 53.2% Bulgarian + 46.8% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.47
7 52.1% Romanian + 47.9% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.55
8 69.5% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 30.5% Central_Greek @ 2.59
9 72.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 27.6% South_Italian @ 2.63
10 82.5% Ukrainian + 17.5% Assyrian @ 2.67
11 56.7% Ukrainian + 43.3% Bulgarian @ 2.72
12 81.6% Ukrainian + 18.4% Lebanese_Muslim @ 2.78
13 74.3% Ukrainian + 25.7% Central_Greek @ 2.8
14 82.7% Ukrainian + 17.3% Armenian @ 2.86
15 70.5% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 29.5% West_Sicilian @ 2.87
16 54.2% Bulgarian + 45.8% Estonian_Polish @ 2.87
17 83.3% Ukrainian + 16.7% Lebanese_Christian @ 2.88
18 83.2% Ukrainian + 16.8% Kurdish_Jewish @ 2.89
19 82.5% Ukrainian + 17.5% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.91
20 70.5% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 29.5% East_Sicilian @ 2.94

Spoiler!

Kit ZV3963031

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 35.6
2 North_Atlantic 23.97
3 West_Med 16.25
4 East_Med 12.57
5 West_Asian 9.3
6 Siberian 0.92
7 Amerindian 0.66
8 Red_Sea 0.37
9 South_Asian 0.28
10 East_Asian 0.09

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 3.4
2 Croatian 4.61
3 Serbian 8.55
4 Hungarian 9.09
5 Ukrainian_Lviv 10.01
6 Ukrainian 10.9
7 South_Polish 11.14
8 Romanian 11.18
9 Bulgarian 12.65
10 Austrian 13.38
11 East_German 13.52
12 Southwest_Russian 14.03
13 Ukrainian_Belgorod 14.31
14 Polish 14.34
15 Russian_Smolensk 16.02
16 Estonian_Polish 16.48
17 Belorussian 17.27
18 Kargopol_Russian 18.2
19 Erzya 19.44
20 Tatar 20.27

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 53.8% Ukrainian + 46.2% Bulgarian @ 2.18
2 72.8% Ukrainian + 27.2% Central_Greek @ 2.47
3 66.8% Ukrainian + 33.2% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.52
4 63.2% Bulgarian + 36.8% Lithuanian @ 2.61
5 75.6% Ukrainian + 24.4% South_Italian @ 2.65
6 56.8% Bulgarian + 43.2% Estonian_Polish @ 2.76
7 56.1% Bulgarian + 43.9% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.82
8 56.2% Ukrainian_Lviv + 43.8% Bulgarian @ 2.85
9 73.8% Ukrainian + 26.2% East_Sicilian @ 2.86
10 80.3% Ukrainian + 19.7% Cyprian @ 2.98
11 52.7% Bulgarian + 47.3% Southwest_Russian @ 3.05
12 50.7% Ukrainian + 49.3% Romanian @ 3.05
13 53.3% Bulgarian + 46.7% Polish @ 3.07
14 78.8% Croatian + 21.2% Bulgarian @ 3.22
15 92.9% Croatian + 7.1% Cyprian @ 3.23
16 58.1% Bulgarian + 41.9% Belorussian @ 3.29
17 53.3% Bulgarian + 46.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.29
18 78.4% Ukrainian + 21.6% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.29
19 80.7% Moldavian + 19.3% Croatian @ 3.32
20 95% Moldavian + 5% Southwest_Russian @ 3.33

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I already posted one of these people. By the way, my very close friend is Croat named Milković paternally from Perušić in Lika, you're telling me these people are Serbs?

Also, mixing is not measured by autistic PCA charts but by IBD sharing (which 23andme does for example). These average dots on K15 map are not most accurate anyway.

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Originally Posted by Est.1992

I already posted one of these people. By the way, my very close friend is Croat named Milković paternally from Perušić in Lika, you're telling me these people are Serbs?

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It's comes from the first name Milko. A guy from east Herzegovina I know from my uni has that name. It's not a 'modern' one by any means though.

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Originally Posted by CommonSense

It's comes from the first name Milko. A guy from east Herzegovina I know from my uni has that name. It's not a 'modern' one by any means though.

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Yes, it exist among both nations as many other surnames.

Not everything Pribi has posted is forged. He sent me a few kit numbers.

Quote:

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Originally Posted by CommonSense

Until now Pribislav posted a bunch of 'Banija Serbs', mostly forged results that were given to him by a third party, whose components matched each other in a more than suspicious way. Apart from HungryLion's own results he himself shared, Mingle posted one woman from that region. Perhaps vbnetkhio has some other kits, I'm not sure. Here's one family I found though, diverse results, but a lot of them are northeast shifted:

A woman living in Denmark, surname Milković:

Spoiler!

Kit T743171

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 33.74
2 North_Atlantic 25.67
3 West_Med 15.67
4 East_Med 15.22
5 West_Asian 7.83
6 Red_Sea 1.07
7 Oceanian 0.59
8 East_Asian 0.15
9 South_Asian 0.06

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 5.02
2 Croatian 5.79
3 Serbian 6.2
4 Hungarian 8.07
5 Romanian 9.34
6 Bulgarian 10.98
7 Ukrainian_Lviv 11.9
8 Austrian 12.23
9 South_Polish 12.35
10 Ukrainian 12.79
11 East_German 12.88
12 Polish 15.82
13 Southwest_Russian 15.92
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 16.32
15 Russian_Smolensk 17.73
16 Estonian_Polish 18.11
17 Belorussian 18.62
18 West_German 19.1
19 Greek_Thessaly 19.66
20 Kargopol_Russian 20.51

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 63.3% Bulgarian + 36.7% Belorussian @ 2.41
2 59.4% Bulgarian + 40.6% Polish @ 2.58
3 62.7% Bulgarian + 37.3% Estonian_Polish @ 2.58
4 53.1% Bulgarian + 46.9% South_Polish @ 2.62
5 68.4% Bulgarian + 31.6% Lithuanian @ 2.67
6 54% Bulgarian + 46% Ukrainian @ 2.7
7 61.8% South_Polish + 38.2% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.71
8 74.1% Ukrainian + 25.9% Italian_Jewish @ 2.72
9 60.9% Ukrainian + 39.1% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.79
10 55.6% Polish + 44.4% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.81
11 51.4% Belorussian + 48.6% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.82
12 68.1% Bulgarian + 31.9% Estonian @ 2.84
13 67.4% Romanian + 32.6% Belorussian @ 2.85
14 66.8% Romanian + 33.2% Estonian_Polish @ 2.86
15 62.3% Bulgarian + 37.7% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.86
16 85% Croatian + 15% Ashkenazi @ 2.86
17 72.2% Romanian + 27.8% Lithuanian @ 2.91
18 71.3% Ukrainian + 28.7% South_Italian @ 2.95
19 74.9% South_Polish + 25.1% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.95
20 54.2% Lithuanian + 45.8% West_Sicilian @ 2.96

Her mother, surname Rogulja:

Spoiler!

Kit KH9736050

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 30.09
2 North_Atlantic 24.82
3 West_Med 16.28
4 East_Med 13.92
5 West_Asian 10.29
6 Red_Sea 1.72
7 South_Asian 1.14
8 Oceanian 1.01
9 Amerindian 0.63
10 Northeast_African 0.09

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 4
2 Moldavian 4.73
3 Romanian 6.38
4 Croatian 7.41
5 Bulgarian 8.35
6 Hungarian 8.63
7 Austrian 12.26
8 East_German 13.4
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 13.88
10 South_Polish 14.74
11 Ukrainian 15.23
12 Greek_Thessaly 17.06
13 West_German 18.2
14 Polish 18.23
15 Southwest_Russian 18.49
16 Ukrainian_Belgorod 18.64
17 South_Dutch 19.75
18 North_Italian 20.05
19 French 20.08
20 Russian_Smolensk 20.26

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 76.6% Croatian + 23.4% Central_Greek @ 1.2
2 53.1% Croatian + 46.9% Bulgarian @ 1.33
3 79.6% Croatian + 20.4% South_Italian @ 1.39
4 70.1% Croatian + 29.9% Greek_Thessaly @ 1.47
5 58.1% Moldavian + 41.9% Romanian @ 1.56
6 53.9% Romanian + 46.1% Croatian @ 1.57
7 77.7% Croatian + 22.3% East_Sicilian @ 1.6
8 69.1% Romanian + 30.9% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 1.69
9 76.3% Croatian + 23.7% Italian_Abruzzo @ 1.72
10 65.1% Moldavian + 34.9% Bulgarian @ 1.79
11 62.8% Bulgarian + 37.2% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 1.8
12 84.1% Moldavian + 15.9% Italian_Abruzzo @ 1.81
13 83% Moldavian + 17% Tuscan @ 1.82
14 69% Bulgarian + 31% Polish @ 1.83
15 85% Moldavian + 15% West_Sicilian @ 1.85
16 71.2% Romanian + 28.8% Ukrainian @ 1.86
17 79.7% Moldavian + 20.3% Greek_Thessaly @ 1.91
18 84.5% Croatian + 15.5% Cyprian @ 1.91
19 76.8% Romanian + 23.2% Russian_Smolensk @ 1.94
20 64.3% Bulgarian + 35.7% South_Polish @ 1.96

Three other close relatives of the family:

Spoiler!

Kit Z673065

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 31.95
2 North_Atlantic 23.11
3 East_Med 17.57
4 West_Med 17
5 West_Asian 8.44
6 East_Asian 0.69
7 Red_Sea 0.68
8 Amerindian 0.55

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 6.12
2 Moldavian 7.06
3 Romanian 7.35
4 Bulgarian 8.16
5 Croatian 9.03
6 Hungarian 11.03
7 Austrian 14.97
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 15.09
9 South_Polish 15.81
10 Ukrainian 15.9
11 East_German 15.93
12 Greek_Thessaly 16.68
13 Southwest_Russian 18.78
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 19.13
15 Polish 19.17
16 Russian_Smolensk 20.86
17 West_German 20.98
18 North_Italian 21.01
19 Estonian_Polish 21.17
20 Belorussian 21.8

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 73.4% Bulgarian + 26.6% Estonian_Polish @ 2.92
2 77.4% Bulgarian + 22.6% Lithuanian @ 2.96
3 74% Bulgarian + 26% Belorussian @ 3.01
4 67.4% Bulgarian + 32.6% Ukrainian @ 3.1
5 61.4% Greek_Thessaly + 38.6% Lithuanian @ 3.21
6 51.3% Ukrainian + 48.7% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.21
7 73.4% Bulgarian + 26.6% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.24
8 71.2% Bulgarian + 28.8% Southwest_Russian @ 3.26
9 56.1% Greek_Thessaly + 43.9% Estonian_Polish @ 3.3
10 71.8% Bulgarian + 28.2% Polish @ 3.4
11 56.9% Greek_Thessaly + 43.1% Belorussian @ 3.42
12 67.9% Ukrainian + 32.1% Italian_Jewish @ 3.5
13 77.9% Bulgarian + 22.1% Estonian @ 3.52
14 53.1% Greek_Thessaly + 46.9% Southwest_Russian @ 3.54
15 60.3% Ukrainian + 39.7% Central_Greek @ 3.56
16 67.8% Ukrainian + 32.2% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.56
17 64.3% Ukrainian + 35.7% South_Italian @ 3.56
18 71.9% Bulgarian + 28.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.56
19 62.2% Ukrainian + 37.8% Ashkenazi @ 3.57
20 55.8% Greek_Thessaly + 44.2% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.58

Spoiler!

K13 Oracle ref data revised 21 Nov 2013

Kit T860720

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 36.21
2 North_Atlantic 23.3
3 West_Med 14.27
4 East_Med 12.02
5 West_Asian 10.54
6 East_Asian 1.17
7 Red_Sea 1.04
8 Amerindian 0.87
9 Siberian 0.32
10 South_Asian 0.26

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 3.56
2 Croatian 4.81
3 Ukrainian_Lviv 9.34
4 Serbian 9.43
5 Hungarian 9.56
6 Ukrainian 10.39
7 South_Polish 10.71
8 Romanian 12.01
9 Ukrainian_Belgorod 13.01
10 Southwest_Russian 13.02
11 Bulgarian 13.39
12 Polish 13.75
13 Austrian 14.08
14 East_German 14.18
15 Russian_Smolensk 15.14
16 Estonian_Polish 15.77
17 Belorussian 16.52
18 Kargopol_Russian 17.43
19 Erzya 18.37
20 Tatar 19.48

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 50.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 49.3% Bulgarian @ 1.86
2 81% Ukrainian + 19% Cyprian @ 2.22
3 63.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 36.6% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.32
4 50.7% Southwest_Russian + 49.3% Bulgarian @ 2.4
5 60.9% Bulgarian + 39.1% Lithuanian @ 2.41
6 53.2% Bulgarian + 46.8% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.47
7 52.1% Romanian + 47.9% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.55
8 69.5% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 30.5% Central_Greek @ 2.59
9 72.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 27.6% South_Italian @ 2.63
10 82.5% Ukrainian + 17.5% Assyrian @ 2.67
11 56.7% Ukrainian + 43.3% Bulgarian @ 2.72
12 81.6% Ukrainian + 18.4% Lebanese_Muslim @ 2.78
13 74.3% Ukrainian + 25.7% Central_Greek @ 2.8
14 82.7% Ukrainian + 17.3% Armenian @ 2.86
15 70.5% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 29.5% West_Sicilian @ 2.87
16 54.2% Bulgarian + 45.8% Estonian_Polish @ 2.87
17 83.3% Ukrainian + 16.7% Lebanese_Christian @ 2.88
18 83.2% Ukrainian + 16.8% Kurdish_Jewish @ 2.89
19 82.5% Ukrainian + 17.5% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.91
20 70.5% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 29.5% East_Sicilian @ 2.94

Spoiler!

Kit ZV3963031

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 35.6
2 North_Atlantic 23.97
3 West_Med 16.25
4 East_Med 12.57
5 West_Asian 9.3
6 Siberian 0.92
7 Amerindian 0.66
8 Red_Sea 0.37
9 South_Asian 0.28
10 East_Asian 0.09

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 3.4
2 Croatian 4.61
3 Serbian 8.55
4 Hungarian 9.09
5 Ukrainian_Lviv 10.01
6 Ukrainian 10.9
7 South_Polish 11.14
8 Romanian 11.18
9 Bulgarian 12.65
10 Austrian 13.38
11 East_German 13.52
12 Southwest_Russian 14.03
13 Ukrainian_Belgorod 14.31
14 Polish 14.34
15 Russian_Smolensk 16.02
16 Estonian_Polish 16.48
17 Belorussian 17.27
18 Kargopol_Russian 18.2
19 Erzya 19.44
20 Tatar 20.27

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 53.8% Ukrainian + 46.2% Bulgarian @ 2.18
2 72.8% Ukrainian + 27.2% Central_Greek @ 2.47
3 66.8% Ukrainian + 33.2% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.52
4 63.2% Bulgarian + 36.8% Lithuanian @ 2.61
5 75.6% Ukrainian + 24.4% South_Italian @ 2.65
6 56.8% Bulgarian + 43.2% Estonian_Polish @ 2.76
7 56.1% Bulgarian + 43.9% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.82
8 56.2% Ukrainian_Lviv + 43.8% Bulgarian @ 2.85
9 73.8% Ukrainian + 26.2% East_Sicilian @ 2.86
10 80.3% Ukrainian + 19.7% Cyprian @ 2.98
11 52.7% Bulgarian + 47.3% Southwest_Russian @ 3.05
12 50.7% Ukrainian + 49.3% Romanian @ 3.05
13 53.3% Bulgarian + 46.7% Polish @ 3.07
14 78.8% Croatian + 21.2% Bulgarian @ 3.22
15 92.9% Croatian + 7.1% Cyprian @ 3.23
16 58.1% Bulgarian + 41.9% Belorussian @ 3.29
17 53.3% Bulgarian + 46.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.29
18 78.4% Ukrainian + 21.6% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.29
19 80.7% Moldavian + 19.3% Croatian @ 3.32
20 95% Moldavian + 5% Southwest_Russian @ 3.33

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I thout we have agreed for Zubović case... He is Likota yes. Lika, Kordun and Banija Serbs have +90% same surnames, anyway they are same people.

KT743171 and T860720 are known to me, but I did not want to post them because they are too much northern shifted for Serbs in Feiichy's head and I would be attacked from her.

Attachment 96820

Attachment 96818

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Originally Posted by CommonSense

Until now Pribislav posted a bunch of 'Banija Serbs', mostly forged results that were given to him by a third party, whose components matched each other in a more than suspicious way. Apart from HungryLion's own results he himself shared, Mingle posted one woman from that region. Perhaps vbnetkhio has some other kits, I'm not sure. Here's one family I found though, diverse results, but a lot of them are northeast shifted:

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don't forget Decius. and this other guy, i think he was also found by Mingle.

-	Decius	Mrdjenovic-Banija/Kordun
North_Atlantic	23.13	26.26
Baltic	30.06	27.08
West_Med	19.05	15.89
West_Asian	12.53	8.37
East_Med	10.34	17.75
Red_Sea	3.42	1.26
South_Asian	0.00	2.91
East_Asian	0.19	0.30
Siberian	0.74	0.17
Amerindian	0.18	0.00
Oceanian	0.37	0.00
Northeast_African	0.00	0.00
Sub_Saharan	0.00	0.00

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Originally Posted by Est.1992

Also, mixing is not measured by autistic PCA charts but by IBD sharing (which 23andme does for example). These average dots on K15 map are not most accurate anyway.

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Deal with it, autistic mongrel.

https://i.imgur.com/qntHeSe.png

Some of them are closer to Romanian, and even to Bulgarian than to Croatian.

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Originally Posted by Pribislav

I thout we have agreed for Zubivić case... He is Likota yes. Lika, Kordun and Banija Serbs have +90% same surnwmes, anyway that is same people.

KT743171 and T860720 are known to me, but I did not want to post them because they are too much northern shifted for Serbs in Feiichy's head and I would be attacked from her.

Attachment 96820

Attachment 96818

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No, I already posted several Serbs with high Baltic, those had unquestionaly Serbian names.
I posed this Milković already and wrote it's a Croat because I myself have a friend with same name and his whole family are Croats like many other Milkovićs.

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Originally Posted by vbnetkhio

don't forget Decius. and this other guy, i think he was also found by Mingle.

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Decius is not only Banija Serb. Some of his ancestry are from Lika and Dalmatia.

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Originally Posted by Est.1992

No, I already posted several Serbs with high Baltic, those had unquestionaly Serbian names.
I posed this Milković already and wrote it's a Croat because I myself have a friend with same name and his whole family are Croats like many other Milkovićs.

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He is not Croat from what I know. I don't have connection with Croatian kits.

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Dušan

Deal with it, autistic mongrel.

https://i.imgur.com/qntHeSe.png

Some of them are closer to Romanian, and even to Bulgarian than to Croatian.

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Idiot, there are full Croats who plot between Romanian and Serbian dot like Insuperable. Plotting means nothing.
And I really hope ape like you isn't related to my people.

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Originally Posted by Est.1992

Idiot, there are full Croats who plot between Romanian and Serbian dot like Insuperable. Plotting means nothing.
And I really hope ape like you isn't related to my people.

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Insuperable's ancestors is croaticized Catholic Serbs from Herzegovina.
Off course he plott near Serbs.

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Pribislav

He is not Croat from what I know. I don't have connection with Croatian kits.

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Based on what, your guess? Ofcourse I concluded it's Croat when it's genetically much closer to us anyway and has same surname like my very close Croat friend.
What do you mean you have no connection with Croatian kits lol? On gedmatch both are present, and most Croats match Serbs and vice versa.

You should concentrate on Serbs from Serbia, based on these results people will think 99% of Serbs come from Croatia and Bosnia.

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Originally Posted by Leto

Not everything Pribi has posted is forged. He sent me a few kit numbers.

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I show you only small part. I don't want to share many kits, for the various reasons.

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Dušan

Insuperable's ancestors is croaticized Catholic Serbs from Herzegovina.
Off course he plott near Serbs.

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Based on what, your wish? He has no known Serbian ancestry, and his ydna is native Balkan one. Also part of his ancestry is from Montenegro Croats.
Based on what you say, I can say all these high Baltic Serbs are orthodoxised Croats which doesn't need to be the case at all.

There is diversity among all nations and even regions we can't fully understand yet.

I can only say there is genetic variety in almost all regions and it doesn't need to be connected to foreign ancestry.

Here are high Baltic Serbs I posted. I am not biased unlike Pribivlach.

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Originally Posted by Est.1992

Serb from Lika based on surname

1 Baltic 35.59
2 North_Atlantic 24.13
3 West_Med 17.27
4 East_Med 14.34
5 West_Asian 5.7
6 Oceanian 1.48
7 South_Asian 0.74
8 Red_Sea 0.37
9 Northeast_African 0.19
10 East_Asian 0.19

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Originally Posted by Est.1992

Serb female, most likely from Eastern Bosnia/Podrinje.

1 Baltic 34.53
2 North_Atlantic 21.56
3 West_Med 20.29
4 East_Med 13.63
5 West_Asian 8.12
6 South_Asian 1.09
7 Siberian 0.65
8 East_Asian 0.13

Her mixed mode for Pribislav:

Spoiler!

1 70.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 29.2% Sardinian @ 4.59
2 71.4% Southwest_Russian + 28.6% Sardinian @ 5.06
3 91.3% Moldavian + 8.7% Sardinian @ 5.33
4 59.3% Ukrainian + 40.7% Greek_Thessaly @ 5.56
5 55.9% Bulgarian + 44.1% Ukrainian @ 5.72
6 67% Ukrainian + 33% Central_Greek @ 5.87
7 70.4% Ukrainian + 29.6% South_Italian @ 5.92
8 87.8% Croatian + 12.2% Sardinian @ 5.95
9 73.4% Ukrainian + 26.6% Algerian_Jewish @ 6.01
10 68.2% Ukrainian + 31.8% East_Sicilian @ 6.05
11 65% Bulgarian + 35% Estonian_Polish @ 6.07
12 70.3% Bulgarian + 29.7% Lithuanian @ 6.08
13 79.6% Moldavian + 20.4% Bulgarian @ 6.12
14 88.2% Moldavian + 11.8% Greek_Thessaly @ 6.14
15 54.5% Bulgarian + 45.5% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 6.15
16 64.1% Croatian + 35.9% Bulgarian @ 6.16
17 55.8% Greek_Thessaly + 44.2% Lithuanian @ 6.16
18 93.6% Moldavian + 6.4% Algerian_Jewish @ 6.18
19 61.1% Ukrainian_Lviv + 38.9% Greek_Thessaly @ 6.21
20 77.3% Croatian + 22.7% Greek_Thessaly @ 6.21

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