It is now proven, can no one question the urheimat of my Uralic language :coffee: I regret to inform that Srubnayas, Scythians, Cimmerian and Sarmatians probably spoke Uralic language. At least many of them.
http://www.elisanet.fi/mauri_my/srub.png
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It is now proven, can no one question the urheimat of my Uralic language :coffee: I regret to inform that Srubnayas, Scythians, Cimmerian and Sarmatians probably spoke Uralic language. At least many of them.
http://www.elisanet.fi/mauri_my/srub.png
This is fascinating. My top outlier sample is figured as Finnic Sarmatian. Even though it is in my rank 142th, this is really strange, because she/he was probably an adopted child in a Merovingian burial.
142. Finnic Sarmatian Warrior (605 AD) ..... 18.64 - NS12a - ?
Culture: MerovingianThe Alemanni were a confederation of Germanic tribes located in the Upper Rhine basin. With the defeat of the Alemanni by Clovis I of the Franks in 497 AD, Alamannia became a Duchy of the Merovingian Kingdom. Integration between the Alemanni and Franks from the 5th to 8th century AD was reflected in the changed burial practices and richly furnished graves of the ruling families (Adelsgrablege). The splendor of these graves depicted the family structure, wealth, and status of the familia and also the power of the Franks. The 7th century Alemannic burial site at Niederstotzingen in southern Germany was used from 580 to 630 AD and rerepresents the best preserved example of such an Alemannic Adelsgrablege. Discovered in 1962, 13 human skeletal remains (10 adults and 3 infants - seemingly all male), along with a varied assemblage of weapons, armor, jewelry, equestrian gear, and remains of three horses, were excavated from 12 graves. The grave goods indicated contacts with Byzantines, Lombards, and Franks.
These remains are of an exotic warrior from the East who has some Finnic and Sarmatian elements.
My dad's matches just finished processing and there are a ton in eastern europe, is this the place where they all test?Quote:
Originally Posted by nittionia
IDK. I have around 3600 non-Finnish matches, up to 60 cM, mostly from USA and Sweden, but I can't identify all. Surnames can be from Russia to Italy. The rest of all 10000 matches I can identify Finnish of partly Finnish.Quote:
Originally Posted by nittionia
My parents and I have pages of Finnish matches on ftdna, much more than 23andme or ancestry :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Lemminkäinen
In Poland FTDNa is most popular. 23&me is nearly non-existent. Ancestry too.Quote:
Originally Posted by nittionia
MH is quite popular, LivingDNA on third place I think.
Ftdna is more popular in FinlandQuote:
Originally Posted by nittionia
https://i.postimg.cc/d324ZyfJ/111.png
Ancient Populations
Code:Saxon + Frank (4.336)
Saxon (4.393)
Viking Danish + Frank (4.5)
Viking Danish + Saxon (4.568)
Visigoth + Saxon (4.601)
Viking Danish + Visigoth (4.612)
Viking Danish (5.984)
Frank (6.819)
Visigoth (7.729)
Vandal (8.684)
https://i.postimg.cc/8zTDCPQh/Capture.png
I got a medal :thumb001:
Celts! Finally!
Your closest Ancient populations...
Visigoth + Saxon (3.073)
Viking Danish + Frank (3.099)
Saxon + Frank (3.367)
Viking Danish + Visigoth (3.392)
Saxon (3.555)
Viking Danish + Saxon (3.626)
Viking Danish (5.199)
Frank (5.83)
Visigoth (7.0)
Celt (8.517)
Ancient Sample Breakdown:
Saxons 20.7%
Celts 17.3%
Danish Vikings 12.8%
Longobards 11.6%
Vikings (Swedish) 9.68%
Franks 9.18%
Norwegian Vikings 5.27%
Vandals 5.09%
Visigoths 3.47%
Ostrogoths 2.99%
Alemanni 1.73%
Top 10 samples updated
1. Saxon Hinxton (720 AD) ..... 3.555 - HinxtonO1 -
Top 99% match vs all users
2. Bell Beaker Scotland (2145 BC) ..... 5.116 - I5471 -
Top 98% match vs all users
3. Post Viking Denmark Odense (1250 AD) ..... 5.199 - G48 -
Top 96% match vs all users
4. Viking Saxon Iceland (1104 AD) ..... 5.387 - TSK-A26 -
Top 99% match vs all users
5. Celtic-Saxon Hinxton Iron Age (67 BC) ..... 5.429 - HI1 -
Top 94% match vs all users
6. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) ..... 5.83 - SZ23 -
Top 93% match vs all users
7. Alemannic Bavaria (500 AD) ..... 5.912 - ALH_1 -
Top 98% match vs all users
8. Late Iron Age Linton Cambridgeshire (205 BC) ..... 6.597 - Linton -
Top 88% match vs all users
9. Late Medieval Icelandic Murderer (1678 AD) ..... 6.63 - KOV-A2 -
Top 95% match vs all users
10. Anglo Saxon (780 AD) ..... 6.804 - Hinxton HS3 -
Top 97% match vs all users
Im now Byzantine not Roman anymore new update
https://mytrueancestry.com/img/Byzantine.jpghttps://mytrueancestry.com/img/Scythian.jpg
Ancient Populations
Top 10 SamplesCode:Saxon + Frank (4.336)
Saxon (4.393)
Viking Danish + Frank (4.5)
Viking Danish + Saxon (4.568)
Visigoth + Saxon (4.601)
Viking Danish + Visigoth (4.612)
Viking Danish (5.984)
Frank (6.819)
Visigoth (7.729)
Celt (8.591)
Modern PopulationsCode:1. Saxon Hinxton (720 AD) ..... 4.393 - HinxtonO1 -
Top 98% match vs all users
2. Celtic-Saxon Hinxton Iron Age (67 BC) ..... 5.825 - HI1 -
Top 92% match vs all users
3. Late Iron Age Linton Cambridgeshire (205 BC) ..... 5.866 - Linton -
Top 93% match vs all users
4. Post Viking Denmark Odense (1250 AD) ..... 5.984 - G48 -
Top 93% match vs all users
5. Medieval Denmark (1250 AD) ..... 6.129 - G24 -
Top 98% match vs all users
6. Celto-Germanic Medieval Denmark (1270 AD) ..... 6.269 - G21 -
Top 93% match vs all users
7. Late Medieval Icelandic Murderer (1678 AD) ..... 6.557 - KOV-A2 -
Top 95% match vs all users
8. Cambridgeshire Iron Age (205 BC) ..... 6.702 - 15594A -
Top 94% match vs all users
9. Viking Saxon Iceland (1104 AD) ..... 6.757 - TSK-A26 -
Top 96% match vs all users
10. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) ..... 6.819 - SZ23 -
Top 86% match vs all users
Code:1. Southwest_English (4.893)
2. Welsh (4.923)
3. Southeast_English (5.438)
4. Flemish (6.008)
5. South_Dutch (6.697)
6. Danish (7.055)
7. Irish (7.060)
8. North_Dutch (7.109)
new entries
Ancient Japan Funadomari Jomon (610 BC) ..... - Funadomari5
Jomon entries
https://i.imgur.com/IUqlRk5.png
Only change here is Franks and Visigoths are added.
I heard that it's all based on genetic distance and not admixture :(
Romans 17.9%
Hellenic Romans 17%
Safavid Dynasty 12.7%
Alans 10.4%
Hittites 9.72%
Canaanites&Semites 8.49%
Pontic Empire 5.73%
Ancient Greeks 5.16%
Minoans 4.67%
Byzantine Empire 4.31%
Seleucid Empire 3.79%
Somewhat, Irano-Greek.
Yeah, genetic distances give misleading results to mixed people, but if the distance figures admixtures, like a+b, the result can be correct. But admixture tests can give false results too. Admixture results depends on the used reference bundle. So getting things right calls always brain work. For example for me admixture tests give results between 100% Finnish to 40% Finnish + 60% German and all testers believe that their tests are scientifically perfect. All depends on methodsQuote:
Originally Posted by jalapeno
- using IBD's give different results than using allele distributions and again using autosomal haplotypes gives different results
- using different IBD cutoffs give different results
- additionally some commercial players fine tune results and in some cases the result can become even worse
Hi newbie here, I am from South West England, father is Welsh + Irish, mother from Derbyshire, English north midlands:
Your closest Ancient populations...
Viking Norwegian
Viking Norwegian + Celt (5.891)
Alemanni + Longobard (5.923)
Celt + Alemanni (6.003)
Viking Norwegian + Longobard (6.412)
Alemanni + Saxon (6.72)
Viking Norwegian (6.948)
Longobard (7.442)
Celt (7.563)
Saxon (8.878)
Alemanni (8.921)
Your closest genetic modern populations...
1. Orcadian (8.043)
2. West_Norwegian (8.182)
3. Welsh (8.473)
4. Norwegian (8.493)
5. North_Dutch (8.909)
6. Danish (9.102)
7. Southwest_English (9.163)
8. West_German (9.316)
Your closest Archaeogenetic matches...
1. Bell Beaker Scotland (2100 BC) ..... 5.309 -
Top 98% match vs all users
2. Nordic-Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) ..... 6.547 -
Top 94% match vs all users
3. Norwegian Viking Iceland (1000 AD) ..... 6.948 -
Top 95% match vs all users
4. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 7.412 -
Top 82% match vs all users
5. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) ..... 7.442 -
Top 97% match vs all users
6. Medieval Norway Sankt Nikolai B (1448 AD) ..... 7.482 -
Top 90% match vs all users
7. Medieval Netherlands Plague II (1360 AD) ..... 7.505 - ?
Top 86% match vs all users
8. Late Iron Age Linton Cambridgeshire (205 BC) ..... 7.557 -
Top 81% match vs all users
9. Celtic Briton (70 BC) ..... 7.563
Top 94% match vs all users
10. Bell Beaker Southern France (2050 BC) ..... 8.44 -
Top 84% match vs all users
11. North Sea Medieval Denmark (1250 AD) ..... 8.448 -
Top 92% match vs all users
12. Early Bronze Age Thames (1800 BC) ..... 8.471 -
Top 73% match vs all users
13. Cambridgeshire Iron Age (205 BC) ..... 8.495 -
Top 82% match vs all users
14. Medieval Denmark (1250 AD) ..... 8.767 -
Top 99% match vs all users
15. Nordic Medieval Denmark (1250 AD) ..... 8.827
Top 99% match vs all users
16. Anglo Saxon Oakington (470 AD) ..... 8.841 -
Top 86% match vs all users
17. Anglo Saxon (720 AD) ..... 8.878 -
Top 95% match vs all users
18. Alemanni Tribe Mausoleo Augusto (500 AD) ..... 8.921 -
Top 97% match vs all users
19. Norwegian Medieval Denmark (1250 AD) ..... 8.943
Top 98% match vs all users
20. Medieval Denmark Revshale (1315 AD) ..... 9.057
Top 92% match vs all users
Fascinating stuff this!
Ancient populations mytrueancestry
Gallo-Roman + Illyrian (5.494)
Visigoth + Illyrian (6.287)
Al-Andalus + Gallo-Roman (6.463)
Visigoth + Al-Andalus (6.628)
Visigoth + Gallo-Roman (6.887)
Gallo-Roman (7.995)
Visigoth (8.182)
Etruscan (9.448)
Al-Andalus (10.69)
Illyrian (10.85)
Your closest genetic modern populations...
Info
1. Spanish_Cantabria (4.357)
2. Southwest_French (4.930)
3. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (6.283)
4. Spanish_Aragon (6.486)
5. Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha (6.513)
6. Spanish_Valencia (7.676)
7. Spanish_Cataluna (7.774)
8. Spanish_Andalucia (8.285)
ancient population%
Gallo-Romans 18%
Iberians 14,8%
Etruscans 12,4%
Vascones 11,2%
Illiryans 9,99%
Visigoths 8,49%
Roman Hispania 7,02%
Latins 6,59%
Franks 4,44%
Al-Andalus 3,78%
Celts 3,1%
Viking Age England Samples
Ancient BreakdownCode:Viking St. Brice Massacre Oxford
V2P (1002 AD)
Genetic Distance: 14.137
Sample Match! 86% closer than other users
Viking St. Brice Massacre Oxford
V4P (1002 AD)
Genetic Distance: 14.480
Sample Match! 83% closer than other users
Viking St. Brice Massacre Oxford
V5P (1002 AD)
Genetic Distance: 13.178
Sample Match! 83% closer than other users
Viking St. Brice Massacre Oxford
V6P (1002 AD)
Genetic Distance: 14.136
Sample Match! 86% closer than other users
Spoiler!
23andMe data
Me
https://i.imgur.com/xRADeHY.jpg
Mom
https://i.imgur.com/xTkdKAZ.jpg
Gallo-Roman + Illyrian (5.991)
Iberian + Illyrian (5.994)
Visigoth + Illyrian (6.582)
Iberian + Gallo-Roman (6.952)
Etruscan + Illyrian (7.765)
Visigoth (8.765)
Gallo-Roman (9.032)
Etruscan (10.31)
Illyrian (10.75)
Iberian (12.19)
Your closest genetic modern populations...
1. Spanish_Cantabria (6.258)
2. Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha (7.723)
3. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (8.458)
4. Southwest_French (8.469)
5. Spanish_Aragon (8.66)
6. Spanish_Cataluna (9.217)
7. Spanish_Extremadura (9.510)
8. Spanish_Andalucia (9.892)
Gallo-Roman 17,1%
Iberian 15,6%
Vascones 11,1%
Illyrian 10,8%
Etruscan 10,6%
Visigoths 8.96%
Latins 8,24%
Franks 6.52%
Roman Hispania 5,15%
Celts 3,25%
Al Andalus 2,42%
Viking St. Brice Massacre Oxford
Genetic Distance: 22.239
Sample Match! 35% closer than other users
Viking St. Brice Massacre Oxford
Genetic Distance: 25.871
Sample Match! 27% closer than other users
https://i.ibb.co/X4X4YBt/plot.png
Gaul + Roman Hispania (3.54)
Gaul + Roman (6.009)
Roman Hispania + Illyrian (7.441)
Gallo-Roman + Roman Hispania (7.821)
Roman + Illyrian (8.116)
Roman (10.52)
Illyrian (10.59)
Gaul (11.15)
Roman Hispania (11.33)
Gallo-Roman (12.52)
Romans 26.8
Roman Hispania 16.3
Illyrians 15.7
Franks 9.01
Gallo-Romans 8.57
Gauls 5.58
Visigoths 5.04
Etruscans 4.22
Thracians 3.16
Al-Andalus 2.93
Scythians 2.5
Gaditano could you post distances with ancient populations and % breadown? I think you will have high Celt % because i remember your k15 and k36Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaditanian
Where the hell are they getting the St Brice Day victims from? Going to assume it's fake like many of the others.
Viking St. Brice Massacre Oxford
Genetic Distance: 8.8523
Sample Match! 99% closer than other users
Updated Breakdown:
Viking Icelandic + Celt (1.595)
Viking Icelandic + Saxon (2.884)
Celt + Saxon (3.389)
Viking + Celt (4.458)
Viking Danish + Celt (4.589)
Celt (5.137)
Viking Icelandic (6.265)
Viking Danish (6.844)
Viking (7.21)
Saxon (8.277)
Mother:
Viking Norwegian + Celt (2.764)
Celt + Saxon (3.43)
Celt + Longobard (3.507)
Viking Danish + Celt (3.742)
Longobard + Saxon (4.052)
Saxon (5.168)
Celt (6.443)
Viking Danish (6.464)
Viking Norwegian (6.51)
Longobard (6.825)
Father:
Viking + Celt (2.235)
Viking Danish + Saxon (2.309)
Viking Norwegian + Celt (2.325)
Viking Danish + Celt (2.708)
Celt + Saxon (3.15)
Viking (4.273)
Viking Danish (4.705)
Celt (5.757)
Viking Norwegian (7.34)
Saxon (7.447)
Viking St. Brice Massacre Oxford V11P (1002 AD)
Genetic Distance: 28.460
Sample Match! 22% closer than other users
Father
Viking St. Brice Massacre Oxford V4P (1002 AD)
Genetic Distance: 23.573
Sample Match! 31% closer than other users
Viking St. Brice Massacre Oxford V11P (1002 AD)
Genetic Distance: 18.778
Sample Match! 66% closer than other users
Me -
https://i.imgur.com/GtfYHFM.png
Dads results (mostly N. Croat & SW. German).
https://i.imgur.com/TuI6TDC.png
https://i.imgur.com/DuA9Cvs.png
Could someone explain this?
https://i.imgur.com/dAc7eWl.png
sharing snps- actually identical parts of the dnaQuote:
Originally Posted by Dušan
longest snp- the longest consequtive chunk of dna you share with that sample, that's more likely to be a real match than the ones which you share many small chunks with.
genetic closeness - you have similar k15 results.
ima li kakve sličnostiQuote:
Originally Posted by Dušan
https://i.imgur.com/ej9h5pR.png
Thanks for explanation.Quote:
Originally Posted by vbnetkhio
What do you think, why do I have so many samples here, and other members not?
you have better raw data(old ftdna?)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dušan
List of associated massacres and plagues:
Viking St. Brice Massacre Oxford - V11P (1002 AD)
mtDNA Haplogroup: H17
Y-DNA Haplogroup: Uncertain
Genetic Distance: 11.578
Sample Match! 98% closer than other users
Viking St. Brice Massacre Oxford - V4P (1002 AD)
mtDNA Haplogroup: H17c
Y-DNA Haplogroup: Uncertain
Genetic Distance: 14.304
Sample Match! 85% closer than other users
Viking St. Brice Massacre Oxford - V8P (1002 AD)
mtDNA Haplogroup: U4b1
Y-DNA Haplogroup: Uncertain
Genetic Distance: 19.935
Sample Match! 75% closer than other users
Viking St. Brice Massacre Oxford - V2P (1002 AD)
mtDNA Haplogroup: H2c1
Y-DNA Haplogroup: Uncertain
Genetic Distance: 16.770
Sample Match! 61% closer than other users
Marseilles Plague Victim (1721 AD) ..... 13.82 - OBS116 - ?
Top 83% match vs all users