Are they pure Ternopil Ukrainians? One of them have almost 4% South Asian.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
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Are they pure Ternopil Ukrainians? One of them have almost 4% South Asian.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
He has been posted in the past for Straseni district already.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
His mom may have distant Romani, nothing extraordinary for Ukraine. In Russia it'd be much less common, maybe in places like Stavropol krai only.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aspirin
I can't say as I don't know, but I was told that they are Ukrainians and moved to Chisinau in the Soviet period. 3.86% could indicate some geneflow. I usually draw the line at 4%.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aspirin
From Briceni (Ukrainian surnames for both parents, one being rare for Moldova, but ethnically identify as Moldovans/Romanians and all grandparents spoke Romanian as the mother tongue)
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N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan 25.07 36.71 17.96 5.60 10.20 1.39 0.82 0 1.03 0.75 0.38 0.10 0
Compared to others from Briceni
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N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan 25.05 32.68 12.58 12.66 13.32 0.16 0.10 1.33 0.85 0.70 0 0.23 0.35 22.85 36.30 13.11 9.12 13.06 1.59 0 0 2.69 1.27 0 0 0
Distance to: Briceni_ind 4.71940674 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk 5.39522937 Ukrainian_Carpathian 5.84633218 Croat_East 6.24673515 Croat 6.36738565 Moldova_North 6.75242179 Croat_North 6.82337893 Hungarian_Alföld 7.03047651 Croat_South 7.06111181 Bosniak 7.25910463 Hungarian_Northern 7.57215293 Ukrainian_Galicia 7.74434632 Croat_West 7.78531310 Slovenian 7.92753430 Hungarian 8.00642867 Slovak 8.37948089 Serb_north 8.62562462 Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest 9.01554768 Csángó-Ceangău 9.25164850 Romania_Moldavia_North 9.47517810 Moldova_Ukrainian 9.51853455 Moldova_average 9.59315902 Moldova_Centre 9.68310900 Serb 9.77439001 Serb_central 10.02750218 Hungarian_Transylvania
Distance to: Briceni_ind 4.71940674 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk 5.39522937 Ukrainian_Carpathian 6.36738565 Moldova_North 7.57215293 Ukrainian_Galicia 8.16908808 Moldova_Ukrainian 9.51853455 Moldova_average 9.59315902 Moldova_Centre 12.37105493 Ukrainian 15.20859297 Moldova_South 15.74423704 Ukrainian_Belgorod 16.55440727 Russian_Smolensk 19.98317042 Moldova_South_Gagauzia 20.62444908 Moldova_Bulgarian 24.19612120 Russian_Pinega 30.53632100 Romania_Dobruja-Tatar 31.51269744 Crimean_Tatar 39.71804879 Moldova_Jewish 40.70435480 Moldova_Roma
Target: Briceni_ind
Distance: 4.1170% / 4.11698237 | ADC: 0.25x RC
86.4 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
13.6 Moldova_South
-Moldova_South, Ivano-Frankivsk
Target: Briceni_ind
Distance: 4.8767% / 4.87668397 | ADC: 0.25x RC
78.0 Ukrainian_Carpathian
22.0 Moldova_average
-Ukrainian_Carpathian
Target: Briceni_ind
Distance: 5.1495% / 5.14950000 | ADC: 0.25x RC
58.6 Ukrainian_Galicia
40.1 Moldova_average
1.3 Moldova_North
-Average, Centre, Gagauz
Target: Briceni_ind
Distance: 5.2291% / 5.22912142 | ADC: 0.25x RC
60.1 Moldova_North
39.9 Ukrainian_Galicia
Distance to: Briceni_ind 5.27150832 Moldova_1/2Moldovan_1/2EastSlavic 5.73166642 Moldova_Ocnita 6.22345563 Moldova_AneniiNoi 7.17901804 Moldova_Edinet 7.38102974 Moldova_Falesti 7.43148034 Moldova_Singerei 7.66065924 Moldova_Transnistria 7.69427709 Moldova_Rezina 8.02117822 Moldova_Soldanesti 8.16908808 Moldova_Ukrainian 8.22136242 Moldova_Balti 8.22574617 Moldova_Glodeni 8.44413406 Moldova_Briceni 8.51755247 Moldova_Straseni 8.69968965 Moldova_Orhei 8.81924600 Moldova_Chisinau 9.13120474 Moldova_Telenesti 9.39249168 Moldova_Ialoveni 10.46555302 Moldova_Calarasi 10.77897027 Moldova_Hincesti 10.90618173 Moldova_Nisporeni 10.96853682 Moldova_Floresti 11.99947916 Moldova_Cimislia 12.96547338 Moldova_Ungheni 13.33692243 Moldova_Cahul
Time for my weirdest sample from Moldova so far
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From Donduseni (3/4 Donduseni, 1/4 Drochia)
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N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan 32.06 32.68 10.89 4.25 14.28 2.99 1.31 0 0.75 0.73 0 0.06 0
I don't have anyone fully from Donduseni or Drochia, but I have people with partial ancestries from there.
1/2 Donduseni, 1/2 Glodeni
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N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan 18.83 35.80 15.59 10.88 11.39 1.98 1.46 0.60 1.77 1.37 0.20 0 0.12
Daos' dad, 1/2 Drochia, 1/2 Polish
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N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan 22.11 39.39 12.60 7.73 8.94 2.67 3.34 0.58 0.76 1.18 0.69 0 0
1/2 Drochia, 1/2 Transnistria Ukrainian
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N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan 25.56 37.62 13.38 6.59 11.84 0.66 1.22 1.12 0.60 0.38 0.42 0 0.60
Distance to: 3/4Donduseni_1/4Drochia 6.38674408 Hungarian 6.53511285 Hungarian_Northern 6.62797858 Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest 6.90299935 Hungarian_Alföld 6.94720807 Croat_North 6.94974820 Slovenian 6.96068962 Croat_West 7.33150735 Croat 8.07672582 Croat_East 8.28277128 Hungarian_Transylvania 8.60058719 Székely 8.60184864 Slovak 8.90695795 Croat_South 9.20935937 Czech 9.46755512 Csángó-Ceangău 9.57638241 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk 9.79775484 Bosniak 9.82754802 Austrian 9.89851504 Ukrainian_Carpathian 10.40636824 Romania_Moldavia_North 10.52224311 Serb_north 10.88765815 German_East 11.02996827 Serb_central 11.19608414 Moldova_North 11.46324561 Ukrainian_Galicia
Distance to: 3/4Donduseni_1/4Drochia 9.57638241 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk 9.89851504 Ukrainian_Carpathian 11.19608414 Moldova_North 11.46324561 Ukrainian_Galicia 11.62524838 Moldova_Centre 12.01520703 Moldova_average 12.07463871 Moldova_Ukrainian 16.35215888 Ukrainian 16.50121814 Moldova_South 19.12269594 Ukrainian_Belgorod 19.56507858 Russian_Smolensk 20.04579258 Moldova_Bulgarian 20.95312387 Moldova_South_Gagauzia 27.32186544 Russian_Pinega 32.54532224 Crimean_Tatar 32.64147668 Romania_Dobruja-Tatar 37.45361798 Moldova_Jewish 40.43538302 Moldova_Roma
I don't think that we should bother with models, since they fail from the very onset
Target: 3/4Donduseni_1/4Drochia
Distance: 8.2197% / 8.21972252 | ADC: 0.25x RC
70.5 Ukrainian_Galicia
16.8 Moldova_Jewish
12.7 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
0.0 Crimean_Tatar
0.0 Moldova_average
0.0 Moldova_Bulgarian
0.0 Moldova_Centre
0.0 Moldova_North
0.0 Moldova_Roma
0.0 Moldova_South
0.0 Moldova_South_Gagauzia
0.0 Moldova_Ukrainian
0.0 Romania_Dobruja-Tatar
0.0 Russian_Pinega
0.0 Russian_Smolensk
0.0 Ukrainian
0.0 Ukrainian_Belgorod
0.0 Ukrainian_Carpathian
Distance to: 3/4Donduseni_1/4Drochia 6.38067395 Moldova_Rezina 8.42758566 Moldova_Transnistria 8.60659631 Moldova_Falesti 9.26587826 Moldova_Nisporeni 9.54103244 Moldova_Balti 9.92669633 Moldova_Ocnita 10.53621849 Moldova_Floresti 10.65854118 Moldova_Briceni 10.84101932 Moldova_1/2Moldovan_1/2EastSlavic 11.03204877 Moldova_Calarasi 11.42122585 Moldova_Telenesti 11.42482385 Moldova_Singerei 11.44148592 Moldova_Ialoveni 11.46073296 Moldova_Soldanesti 11.71694073 Moldova_AneniiNoi 11.77900675 Moldova_Straseni 11.79790659 Moldova_Chisinau 12.07463871 Moldova_Ukrainian 12.12487938 Moldova_Orhei 13.18474497 Moldova_Causeni 13.32249977 Moldova_Edinet 14.24746995 Moldova_Cimislia 14.45812920 Moldova_Cantemir 14.46253781 Moldova_Cahul 14.57149615 Moldova_Hincesti
This person is similar to those recent north shifted Csangos from Neamț posted by you, but without cheburek influence. Maybe he have some German ancestry. For example this man who made these pictures had some German ancestry and he is almost from the same area.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
Maybe some Steppe influence? High South Asian can be related to Turkic steppe nomads.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
Cool story (seriously) but the info doesn't say anything about him having German ancestry.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aspirin
No way, their Mongoloid is miniscule, below 2%. And by the way Steppe means Indo-European on this forum, not a bunch of fucking Eurasian Muslims ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Aspirin