Applying your own standards, that sample has nothing to do with Poles, since it's genetically Baltic. Falling in your own traps, wonderful xDQuote:
Originally Posted by Tomenable
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Applying your own standards, that sample has nothing to do with Poles, since it's genetically Baltic. Falling in your own traps, wonderful xDQuote:
Originally Posted by Tomenable
Which sample is genetically Baltic ???Quote:
Originally Posted by Stearsolina
Masurians plot exactly like Masovians (Northeast Poles). Nothing Baltic about them.
East Prussia Memelland. It clusters near Lithuanians.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomenable
Because they are ethnic Lithuanians - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prussian_LithuaniansQuote:
Originally Posted by Stearsolina
Some Lithuanians and Balts were Germanized, just like tons of them were Polonised. Better be quiet about Lithuania. Even Lithuanian nobility was Polonised.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomenable
Up to 200,000 Lithuanians lived in East Prussia in 1824 (that was ca. 19% of East Prussia's population).Quote:
Originally Posted by Stearsolina
Poles in Lithuania are not just Polonized Lithuanians. They differ genetically, have real Slavic admixture.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stearsolina
Look at these samples: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...outh-Lithuania
(BTW since I uploaded them to GEDmatch I keep getting mails from their matches, who are mostly Slavs)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PolonizationQuote:
Originally Posted by Tomenable
In 1920, after the staged mutiny of Lucjan Żeligowski, Lithuanian cultural activities in Polish controlled territories were limited and the closure of Lithuanian newspapers and the arrest of their editors occurred. 33 Lithuanian and Belarusian cultural activists were formally expelled from Vilnius on 23 January 1922 and deported to Lithuania. In 1927, as tensions between Lithuania and Poland increased, 48 additional Lithuanian schools were closed and another 11 Lithuanian activists were deported. Following Piłsudski's death in 1935, the Lithuanian minority in Poland again became an object of Polonization policies with greater intensity. 266 Lithuanian schools were closed after 1936 and almost all Lithuanian organizations were banned. Further Polonization ensued as the government encouraged settlement of Polish army veterans in the disputed regions. About 400 Lithuanian reading rooms and libraries were closed in Poland between 1936 and 1938. Following the 1938 Polish ultimatum to Lithuania, Lithuania re-established diplomatic relations with Poland and efforts to Polonize Lithuanians living in Poland decreased somewhat.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poloni...thuanian_lands
Poland was Imperialistic power, don't pretend otherwise.
Not true. Yes the English tried to Anglicise the Irish (successfully), but they never considered the Irish to be English. They even called the ethnically English Protestant ascendancy of Ireland Irish in the 18th-20th centuries. Writers like Oscar Wilde, George Bernard Shaw, W.B. Yeats, Bram Stoker were Anglo-Irish, but were considered Irish and still are.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomenable
No, I'm not different than other Poles from my region and I plot like other Western Poles in Global25, and within the Polish cluster.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stearsolina
Lucas lives in Torun (Kujawsko-Pomorskie), but he is an immigrant there. Indigenous Poles from Kujawsko-Pomorskie plot like me.
Hmmm - "Being born in a stable does not make one a horse" - this is an Anglo-Irish proverb that I recall.Quote:
Originally Posted by Creoda
They did not consider themselves Irish, but English - despite being born in the proverbial stable (Ireland).
Also, AFAIK most of the Anglo-Irish emigrated back to England after Ireland regained independence.