German GEDmatch results

[Jana]

Rothaer just cannot stand that Sven told me that his mother is a Sorb, just like he could not stand (before that) that Kramkowski identifies as Polish (as he wrote on Anthrogenica).

Rothaer wants to be the master & ruler of other peoples' identity...

What if we add Kramkowski as "Polish_East_Prussia" to Global25 ???

Applying your own standards, that sample has nothing to do with Poles, since it's genetically Baltic. Falling in your own traps, wonderful

[Peterski]

Applying your own standards, that sample has nothing to do with Poles, since it's genetically Baltic.

Which sample is genetically Baltic ???

Masurians plot exactly like Masovians (Northeast Poles). Nothing Baltic about them.

[Jana]

Which sample is genetically Baltic ???

East Prussia Memelland. It clusters near Lithuanians.

[Peterski]

East Prussia Memelland. It clusters near Lithuanians.

Because they are ethnic Lithuanians - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prussian_Lithuanians

[Jana]

Because they are ethnic Lithuanians - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prussian_Lithuanians

Some Lithuanians and Balts were Germanized, just like tons of them were Polonised. Better be quiet about Lithuania. Even Lithuanian nobility was Polonised.

[Peterski]

Some Lithuanians were Germanized

Up to 200,000 Lithuanians lived in East Prussia in 1824 (that was ca. 19% of East Prussia's population).

just like tons of them were Polonised. Better be quiet about Lithuania. Even Lithuanian nobility was Polonised.

Poles in Lithuania are not just Polonized Lithuanians. They differ genetically, have real Slavic admixture.

Look at these samples: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...outh-Lithuania

(BTW since I uploaded them to GEDmatch I keep getting mails from their matches, who are mostly Slavs)

[Jana]

About 200,000 Lithuanians lived in East Prussia in 1824 (and that was 19% of East Prussia's population).



Poles in Lithuania are not just Polonized Lithuanians. They differ genetically, have real Slavic admixture.

Look at these samples: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...outh-Lithuania

(BTW since I uploaded them to GEDmatch I keep getting mails from their matches, who are mostly Slavs)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polonization

In 1920, after the staged mutiny of Lucjan Żeligowski, Lithuanian cultural activities in Polish controlled territories were limited and the closure of Lithuanian newspapers and the arrest of their editors occurred. 33 Lithuanian and Belarusian cultural activists were formally expelled from Vilnius on 23 January 1922 and deported to Lithuania. In 1927, as tensions between Lithuania and Poland increased, 48 additional Lithuanian schools were closed and another 11 Lithuanian activists were deported. Following Piłsudski's death in 1935, the Lithuanian minority in Poland again became an object of Polonization policies with greater intensity. 266 Lithuanian schools were closed after 1936 and almost all Lithuanian organizations were banned. Further Polonization ensued as the government encouraged settlement of Polish army veterans in the disputed regions. About 400 Lithuanian reading rooms and libraries were closed in Poland between 1936 and 1938. Following the 1938 Polish ultimatum to Lithuania, Lithuania re-established diplomatic relations with Poland and efforts to Polonize Lithuanians living in Poland decreased somewhat.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poloni...thuanian_lands

Poland was Imperialistic power, don't pretend otherwise.

[J. Ketch]

There was also a region called Obodritia, and it does not exist today (at least not as a German region).



Only if the English definition tramples and nulifies the Irish definition, which is what you automatically assume (Goliath always tramples David, in your mind).

What was the purpose of English Anglicization policies in Ireland, if not to turn the Irish into the English?

They imposed English language on the native Irish, hoping that it was going to turn them into the English.

Not true. Yes the English tried to Anglicise the Irish (successfully), but they never considered the Irish to be English. They even called the ethnically English Protestant ascendancy of Ireland Irish in the 18th-20th centuries. Writers like Oscar Wilde, George Bernard Shaw, W.B. Yeats, Bram Stoker were Anglo-Irish, but were considered Irish and still are.

[Peterski]

In such case you are disqualified from being an ethnic Pole, considering your low early Slavic ancestry.

No, I'm not different than other Poles from my region and I plot like other Western Poles in Global25, and within the Polish cluster.

Lucas lives in Torun (Kujawsko-Pomorskie), but he is an immigrant there. Indigenous Poles from Kujawsko-Pomorskie plot like me.

[Peterski]

were Anglo-Irish, but were considered Irish and still are.

Hmmm - "Being born in a stable does not make one a horse" - this is an Anglo-Irish proverb that I recall.

They did not consider themselves Irish, but English - despite being born in the proverbial stable (Ireland).

Also, AFAIK most of the Anglo-Irish emigrated back to England after Ireland regained independence.