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03-10-2020, 10:05 PM
Moje ime

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Originally Posted by Est.1992

I have high doubt about these results being full Serbs, especially because almost all are from Croatia.
As it started, 35% Baltic will soon be Serbian average.

And keep in mind Croat average in here is from Zagreb, so more northern shifted than full southern Croats let alone Serbs.
I see one Serb from Croatia here getting like 95% Croat in Oracles, what should I think?

I must agree with this. And I'm sick of chasing high Baltic score, just look how Pribislav reporting to Leto high Baltic results like he has to prove to him something.
03-10-2020, 10:08 PM
Jana

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moje ime

I must agree with this. And I'm sick of chasing high Baltic score, just look how Pribislav reporting to Leto high Baltic results like he has to prove to him something.

Not only that, Dalmatia for example is full of Croats who have low Baltic and are close to Serb average (I don't exclude they are mixed with Serbs), which many deem too southern.
Imagine how rare are these 35% Baltic Serbs when even among Croats many don't reach such figures.
03-10-2020, 10:08 PM
Pribislav

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moje ime

I must agree with this. And I'm sick of chasing high Baltic score, just look how Pribislav reporting to Leto high Baltic results like he has to prove to him something.

Leto is interested for South Slavic results with high Baltic score, and especially for their dodecad.
03-10-2020, 10:09 PM
Jana

My both parents who are half Dalmatians half more northern and me don't score above 32 Baltic.
03-10-2020, 10:09 PM
Moje ime

Quote:

Originally Posted by Est.1992

Not only that, Dalmatia for example is full of Croats who have low Baltic and are close to Serb average (I don't exclude they are mixed with Serbs), which many deem too southern.
Imagine how rare are these 35% Baltic Serbs when even among Croats many don't reach such figures.

Serbs from Serbia must be most representative of Serbian average results.
03-10-2020, 10:10 PM
Leto

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moje ime

I must agree with this. And I'm sick of chasing high Baltic score, just look how Pribislav reporting to Leto high Baltic results like he has to prove to him something.

You guys are fucking Slavs. So the more Slavic ancestry, the more remarkable. As long as we have unmixed Eastern Slavs or Poles, other Slavs will probably be measured against them in terms of DNA.
I am NOT a Slavic supremacist by any means, just to be clear.
03-10-2020, 10:10 PM
Pribislav

Quote:

Originally Posted by Est.1992

My both parents who are half Dalmatians half more northern and me don't score above 32 Baltic.

They have high NA, due to Germanic influence.
03-10-2020, 10:11 PM
Moje ime

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pribislav

Leto is interested for South Slavic results with high Baltic score, and especially for their dodecad.

Yeah I know his fetish.
03-10-2020, 10:11 PM
Jana

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pribislav

They have high NA, due to Germanic influence.

Okay, but my father is full SW Slav. He seem to have some Germanic admixture though.
03-10-2020, 10:12 PM
Leto

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pribislav

Leto is interested for South Slavic results with high Baltic score, and especially for their dodecad.

Yeah, just some curiousity, nothing particularly big. Why not notice something if it's noticeable?
03-10-2020, 10:13 PM
Moje ime

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leto

You guys are fucking Slavs. So the more Slavic ancestry, the more remarkable. As long as we have unmixed Eastern Slavs or Poles, other Slavs will probably be measured against them in terms of DNA.
I am NOT a Slavic supremacist by any means, just to be clear.

Solution is not to find out and brag with some extreme cases of results far away from core Serbian teritory like Pribislav does but to take into consideration average Serbs from Serbia and average Serbian results.
03-10-2020, 10:14 PM
Pribislav

Quote:

Originally Posted by Est.1992

Okay, but my father is full SW Slav. He seem to have some Germanic admixture though.

Germanic influence among Dinaric Slavs exist, and it's not recent as in Pannonia but from early middle age (mostly from Goths).
03-10-2020, 10:15 PM
Leto

Moje ime is bitter because she scores low Baltic and doesn't have blue eyes and a golden braid :p :icon_lol:
03-10-2020, 10:16 PM
Jana

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Originally Posted by Leto

Moje ime is bitter because she scores low Baltic and doesn't have blue eyes and a golden braid :p :icon_lol:

She is light pigmented as far as I know, and he results are very close to Serbian average except more than average west Euro input.
03-10-2020, 10:16 PM
vbnetkhio

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moje ime

I must agree with this. And I'm sick of chasing high Baltic score, just look how Pribislav reporting to Leto high Baltic results like he has to prove to him something.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Est.1992

I have high doubt about these results being full Serbs, especially because almost all are from Croatia.
As it started, 35% Baltic will soon be Serbian average.

And keep in mind Croat average in here is from Zagreb, so more northern shifted than full southern Croats let alone Serbs.
I see one Serb from Croatia here getting like 95% Croat in Oracles, what should I think?

i posted all results, from 26 to 35 Baltic. i posted gypsy admixed Serbs too. so i don't hide anything. the Serbian average will always be around 30 with a representative sample.

that "95% Croat" guy lives in Serbia and his grandfather was from Lika, idk about the rest of his ancestry.
03-10-2020, 10:17 PM
Leto

Quote:

Originally Posted by Est.1992

I have high doubt about these results being full Serbs, especially because almost all are from Croatia.
As it started, 35% Baltic will soon be Serbian average.

And keep in mind Croat average in here is from Zagreb, so more northern shifted than full southern Croats let alone Serbs.
I see one Serb from Croatia here getting like 95% Croat in Oracles, what should I think?

Yes, we all know for you Serbia is part of Greater Woggistan xD
03-10-2020, 10:17 PM
Jana

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pribislav

Germanic influence among Dinaric Slavs exist, and it's not recent as in Pannonia but from early middle age (mostly from Goths).

I think in case of my father it is from his 1/8 NW Croat part. Village where it's from was full with German miners in past.
Anyway, he has very low Baltic considering he is also 1/4 Bosniak, and 1/8 Central Croat.

His Dalmatian side from Hvar was probably very Med.
03-10-2020, 10:18 PM
Leto

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moje ime

Solution is not to find out and brag with some extreme cases of results far away from core Serbian teritory like Pribislav does but to take into consideration average Serbs from Serbia and average Serbian results.

I'm aware that it's not an average result, yet atypical cases are usually more interesting to discuss.
03-10-2020, 10:19 PM
Pribislav

Quote:

Originally Posted by Est.1992

I think in case of my father it is from his 1/8 NW Croat part. Village where it's from was full with German miners in past.
Anyway, he has very low Baltic considering he is also 1/4 Bosniak, and 1/8 Central Croat.

His Dalmatian side from Hvar was probably very Med.

Make sense.
03-10-2020, 10:19 PM
Jana

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leto

Yes, we all know for you Serbia is part of Greater Woggistan xD

What's your problem? They are as representative as Transylvanians are for Hungarians.
03-10-2020, 10:20 PM
Moje ime

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leto

Moje ime is bitter because she scores low Baltic and doesn't have blue eyes and a golden braid :p :icon_lol:

I have green eyes, brown hair (was reddish and lighter in childhood) and light skin. Don't get tan from Sun.
03-10-2020, 10:25 PM
vbnetkhio

Quote:

Originally Posted by Est.1992

Not only that, Dalmatia for example is full of Croats who have low Baltic and are close to Serb average (I don't exclude they are mixed with Serbs), which many deem too southern.
Imagine how rare are these 35% Baltic Serbs when even among Croats many don't reach such figures.

almost as if that 35% Baltic isn't Croat influence, and he is simply a more Slavic than average Serb
03-10-2020, 10:25 PM
Leto

Quote:

Originally Posted by Est.1992

What's your problem? They are as representative as Transylvanians are for Hungarians.

No problem for me. You just like to stress that Serbs and Croats are not the same. By the way, certain users consider you mixed and unrepresentative.
03-10-2020, 10:26 PM
Jana

Quote:

Originally Posted by vbnetkhio

almost as if that 35% Baltic isn't Croat influence, and he is simply a more Slavic than average Serb

Serbs in Croatia mixed with Croats, especially in Dalmatia. Whoever denies that in on Stears level, who denies any Romanian admixture despite it's obvious in his results and in Szekely in general.
03-10-2020, 10:28 PM
Jana

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Originally Posted by Leto

No problem for me. You just like to stress that Serbs and Croats are not the same. By the way, certain users consider you mixed and unrepresentative.

And they are not, any academic paper says the same.
Who are these certain users? I don't like mystery.

Ofcourse I am mixed, but I am close to Croat average and not very northern if that is what you think, because 75% of my Croat part is from south and on top of that I have some Bosniak and Serb as well.
03-10-2020, 10:35 PM
Dick

Since when do eurogenes components equate with a person's phenotype. I get more Baltic than my father but he can easily pass in Belarus than I can. I was expecting him to get like 50% Baltic considering how he looks xD
03-10-2020, 10:50 PM
Pribislav

Quote:

Originally Posted by vbnetkhio

almost as if that 35% Baltic isn't Croat influence, and he is simply a more Slavic than average Serb

+1
03-10-2020, 11:12 PM
Pribislav

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leto

You guys are fucking Slavs. So the more Slavic ancestry, the more remarkable. As long as we have unmixed Eastern Slavs or Poles, other Slavs will probably be measured against them in terms of DNA.
I am NOT a Slavic supremacist by any means, just to be clear.

If Bosniensis see this... :cool:
03-10-2020, 11:15 PM
Bosniensis

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pribislav

If Bosniensis see this... :cool:

We are 50% 50% but linguistically Slavic?

But what is that ... that connects Bosniaks to Slavic world? ... Nothing.

The first friendly country to us is Albania and Turkey while all Slavic countries are observed with utmost distrust.
03-10-2020, 11:15 PM
Leto

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pribislav

If Bosniensis see this... :cool:

You know what? Sinan looks Tatar to me! I swear quite a few Volga Tatars have similar features and pigmentation as him. But yes, he is a big Larper (just a Bosnian Muslim in reality and I actually like him in some way).
03-10-2020, 11:16 PM
Terminator98

Quote:

Originally Posted by Est.1992

Serbs in Croatia mixed with Croats, especially in Dalmatia. Whoever denies that in on Stears level, who denies any Romanian admixture despite it's obvious in his results and in Szekely in general.

What about Lika Serbs, probably same?
03-10-2020, 11:18 PM
Moje ime

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terminator98

What about Lika Serbs, probably same?

From where are your ancestors if I may ask?
03-10-2020, 11:19 PM
Dick

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leto

You know what? Sinan looks Tatar to me! I swear quite a few Volga Tatars have similar features and pigmentation as him. But yes, he is a big Larper (just a Bosnian Muslim in reality and I actually like him in some way).

Indeed, like a mix of Scythian + Hungarian Conqueror (4.943) eeh, Bosniensis? :rotfl:
03-10-2020, 11:20 PM
Jana

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terminator98

What about Lika Serbs, probably same?

Krajina Serbs mixed less, according to book about Croatian Serbs I read written by Serb. in Krajina separation between Serbs and Croats was greater than in Dalmatia, but ofcourse some mixing always happen.
03-10-2020, 11:21 PM
Bosniensis

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Originally Posted by Dick

Indeed, like a mix of Scythian + Hungarian Conqueror (4.943) eeh, Bosniensis? :rotfl:

Yes but you said yourself that Scythian is incorrect while Hungarian Conqueror is "MIX" of many identities as describe, so both identifications are just hoax.
03-10-2020, 11:21 PM
Jana

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leto

You know what? Sinan looks Tatar to me! I swear quite a few Volga Tatars have similar features and pigmentation as him. But yes, he is a big Larper (just a Bosnian Muslim in reality and I actually like him in some way).

No suprise, he has some similarities to Stears.
03-10-2020, 11:21 PM
Terminator98

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moje ime

From where are your ancestors if I may ask?

Mixed. :D Hercegovina (both West and East), Dalmatia Hinterland and Lika xD
03-10-2020, 11:21 PM
Pribislav

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terminator98

What about Lika Serbs, probably same?

Serbs from Vrlika Krajina, Cetina Krajina and Drniš Krajina relatively often mixed with Catholics since 18th century according to church books. Serbs from Bukovica, Knin Krajina, Ravni Kotari and other areas of Dalmatia very rare mixed with Catholics. Serb from Dalmatia whose result vbnetkhio posted is not fom area where mixing with Catholics was relatively common.

Serbs from Lika, Kordun and Banija rare mixed with Catholics. Not sure for Slavonian Serbs.
03-10-2020, 11:24 PM
Vožd

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moje ime

I have green eyes, brown hair (was reddish and lighter in childhood) and light skin. Don't get tan from Sun.

What is your phenotype?
03-10-2020, 11:25 PM
Jana

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pribislav

Serbs from Vrlika Krajina, Cetina Krajina and Drniš Krajina relatively often mixed with Catholics since 18th century according to church books. Serbs from Bukovica, Knin Krajina, Ravni Kotari and other areas of Dalmatia very rare mixed with Catholics. Serb from Dalmatia whose result vbnetkhio posted is not fom area where mixing with Catholics was relatively common.

Serbs from Lika, Kordun and Banija rare mixed with Catholics. Not sure for Slavonian Serbs.

Croats, not Catholics. Village this person is from is basically on Adriatic coast, surrounded by Croats. Pure my ass.

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