I don't like those academic Welsh kits. Gedmatch samples are better representative in my opinion.
Also Irish academic samples are "super-Irish" comparing to every Gedmatch Irish kit.
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What do you mean? I've found the Irish gedmatch kits to have less Baltic and more North Atlantic than the old Irish average in K13.
My Irish provincial averages
Old Irish averageCode:Irish_Connacht,52.65,23.42,12.04,7.09,1.07,0.21,1.59,0.10,0.28,0.90,0.21,0.22,0.10
Irish_Leinster,51.84,23.04,12.80,6.68,1.97,0.62,1.09,0.31,0.09,0.74,0.39,0.19,0.16
Irish_Munster,52.87,22.83,12.42,6.79,1.52,0.35,1.34,0.19,0.28,0.78,0.23,0.16,0.16
Irish_Ulster,53.13,22.47,12.65,6.9,0.87,0.61,1.49,0.10,0.36,0.84,0.32,0.05,0.14
Code:Irish,52.23,24.02,12.39,6.32,1.41,0.82,1.09,0.09,0.03,0.99,0.33,0.18,0.10
I added (to most popular calcs by now) new option from last Vahaduo script update.
When you click ADC, new function "recalculate" appears. By default is yes, if you change to no, results sometimes differ substantially.
Also now different "Cycles" could change results more than before.
Worth to try.
Recalculated
Original
Distance: 238.3089% / 2.38308868
Target: Dušan | ADC: 0.25x RC
34.0 Erzya
26.6 Moldavian
25.8 Bulgarian
13.6 Sardinian
Updated
Distance: 178.9699% / 1.78969851
Target: Dušan | ADC: 0.25x RC
61.0 Serb_B&H_Krajina
26.6 Erzya
10.8 Sardinia
1.6 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
Ancient
Distance: 156.8579% / 1.56857878
Target: Dušan | ADC: 0.25x RC
52.6 Sungir6_Early_Medieval_Russian_I2a_I2a_
33.6 MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian_
6.6 I1113_Bulgaria_MP_N_7983_ybp
4.2 AV1_Hungary_Avar_1361_ybp
3.0 scy301_SG_Moldova_Scythian_SG
Maybe "Erzya" should be renamed to "Mordovian_Erzya". Would be more understandable.
Original K13
Distance: 242.4148% / 2.42414849
Target: Stearsolina | ADC: 0.25x RC
65.4 Croatian
22.8 Austrian
7.0 North_Ossetian
4.8 French_Basque
Me k13,
Distance to: Vasil
2.50313803 MacedonianWest
2.55630593 MacedonianSouthEast
2.55865199 Vlach(Aromanian)_average
2.65265904 MacedonianGreeceNorthWest
2.69814751 Albanian_Kosovo
2.77974819 MacedonianPelagonia
2.83880256 MacedonianEast
3.05846367 MACEDONIAN_AVERAGE
3.14437593 MacedonianCentral
3.23337285 MacedonianSouthWest
3.50732091 MacedonianNorthWest
3.60383129 Albanian_Montenegro
3.85129848 Vlach_North-Macedonia
3.87133052 Albanian
3.88786574 Albanian_Macedonia
3.92583749 Vlach_North-Macedonia-Highlander
3.96763154 Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-Central
4.16064899 Albanian_north_Albania
4.34743603 MacedonianNorthEast
4.40159062 Torbesh_average
4.46138151 Greek_Thessaly
4.59041392 MacedonianNorth
4.85089682 Albanian_Albania
4.94159893 Bulgaria_Southeastern
4.99520770 Bulgaria_Northeastern
Distance: 56.0098% / 0.56009813
Target: Vasil | ADC: 0.25x RC
51.8 MacedonianNorthWest
27.6 Albanian_Kosovo
9.8 Italian
7.8 Greek_Istanbul
2.2 Pomak_Central-Macedonia
0.8 Brahmin_UP
Distance: 42.8361% / 0.42836147
Target: Vasil
34.8 MacedonianNorthWest
18.4 Albanian_north_Albania
11.0 MacedonianNorthEast
7.8 Austrian
7.4 IT_Lombardy
6.8 Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-Central
5.2 Greek_Caucasus
2.2 Swiss_Italian
2.0 Greek_North_Aegean
1.6 Parsi_India
1.0 Lebanese_Druze
0.8 Greek_West
0.6 North_German
0.2 Belorussian
0.2 Pomak_Central-Macedonia
Distance: 288.5729% / 2.88572874
Target: Impaler | ADC: 0.25x RC
41.8 Turk_Targovishte
18.6 FRA_Provence
17.6 Pomak_Central-Macedonia
10.0 Turk_Razgrad
5.2 Piramalai
5.0 Turk_Kazanlik
1.8 Balkan_Gypsy
Distance: 292.4193% / 2.92419297
Target: Impaler | ADC: 0.25x RC
36.0 Romanian
28.6 Ashkenazi
20.8 West_German
9.2 Turkmen
5.4 Velamas
Distance to: Impaler
6.89989130 Turk_Kazanlik
7.21847629 Turk_Targovishte
7.21988920 Turk_Razgrad
7.39397052 Turk_Kavala
7.47429595 Turk_Stara-Zagora
8.12070810 Turk_Balkan_average
8.17302881 Turk_Alexandroupoli
8.39867251 Pomak_Central-Macedonia
8.70959815 Turk_Kardzhali-East
8.89303098 Bulgaria_Northeastern
Me k13 ancient
Distance to: Vasil
7.34989116 SZ1.SG_longobard_hungary
7.44175383 scy192_SG_Moldova_Scythian_SG
7.50894134 SZ1_Hungary_BA.SG_3950_ybp
7.91122620 STR310_Germany_Early_Medieval.SG_1430_ybp
8.05532122 R970_Lazio_Rome_Renaissance_Italy
8.78286969 SZ36_Hungary_Langobard.SG_1442_ybp
9.08590117 SZ31_Longobard_M_T1a1a_PF5620_U4c2a_60th_century
9.15688266 MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian_
9.37329718 R1_Abruzzo_Teramo_Late_Bronze_Age_Italy
9.72491131 SZ37_Hungary_Langobard_1447_ybp
9.93111776 NW54_Germany_Early_Medieval.SG_1491_ybp
10.46586356 SZ32_Hungary_Langobard_1442_ybp
10.79764326 DA195_Hungary_Scythian.SG_2553_ybp
10.83741667 I4124_Germany_Bell_Beaker_4284_ybp
10.94203363 R55_Lazio_Rome_Late_Medieval_Italy
11.02395573 R60_Lazio_Rome_Early_Medieval_Italy
11.64164937 I7043_Hungary_BA_4000_ybp
11.65261344 STR535_Germany_Early_Medieval.SG_1491_ybp
11.72568122 R121_Lazio_Rome_Italy_Late_Antiquity
11.73599165 R36_Lazio_Rome_Italy_Late_Antiquity
12.32962287 R969_Lazio_Rome_Renaissance_Italy
12.38858749 CL36_longobard_north_italy
12.58344150 R105_Lazio_Rome_Italy_Late_Antiquity
12.66860292 R1549_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
12.94382478 R33_Lazio_Rome_Early_Medieval_Italy
Distance: 180.2831% / 1.80283149
Target: Vasil | ADC: 0.25x RC
41.4 R970_Lazio_Rome_Renaissance_Italy
16.6 MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian_
15.0 DA195_Hungary_Scythian.SG_2553_ybp
11.2 scy192_SG_Moldova_Scythian_SG
9.6 MJ14_West_Scythian_R1a_Z645_
6.2 STR310_Germany_Early_Medieval.SG_1430_ybp
K13 original
Distance: 231.4910% / 2.31490953
Target: | ADC: 0.25x RC
42.4 West_German
31.6 Tabassaran
16.6 Italian_Abruzzo
6.8 Turkmen
2.6 Dai
K13 updated
Distance: 195.7190% / 1.95718958
Target: | ADC: 0.25x RC
39.2 Turk_Burgas
30.4 Irish_Ulster
27.6 Tabassaran
2.8 Malay
K13 ancient
Distance: 200.4327% / 2.00432664
Target: | ADC: 0.25x RC
45.2 I3443_Belize_MayahakCabPek_9300BP_9285_ybp
21.4 DA206_Kazakhstan_Kangju.SG_1738_ybp
19.2 scy311_SG_Moldova_Scythian_SG
10.4 Crusader_SI53_Kingdom_of_Jerusalem_
3.8 Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2_S8726.E1.L1
What is I3443_Belize_MayahakCabPek_9300BP_9285_ybp?
Eastern half of Europe
Updated K13 national averages:
https://i.imgur.com/Z2M6lf8.png
Hi guys! in this period i saw that dodecad k12b works good as eurogenes k13 for europeans.. but it works pretty good for asians too (Kaspias it would have the same idea i guess).
So, we have a good amount of asian averages, but for balkans it's noth that good. Could you (who have made samples in k13) for hungarians,romanian,greeks,macedonians,italians samples, create those averages for k12b too?
It's not necessary to create "Serb_South_Valley_North_Village_East_Bosnia_Prope r_Not_South_But_North" like on Eurogenes k13...let's try to create good averages without political views contaminations.
You can use my coordinates as a Balkan sample, since I'm just a Hungarian LARPer :cry2 Chris,4.66,0.32,0.00,0.00,26.80,38.40,0.40,0.00,3. 26,2.14,23.49,0.54
Yes, I think Dodecad K12b works very well:
Distance: 248.5100% / 2.48510023
Target: Chris | ADC: 0.25x RC
67.0 Serb
26.5 Croat
4.8 Georgian_Mingrelian
1.7 Japanese
Distance to: Chris
3.53788072 Serb
3.89263407 MD_Center
4.40663137 Montenegrin
5.62415327 Romanian
5.62780597 HUN_Szekely
5.90758834 Macedonian
5.98466373 MD_North
6.30179340 Bosnian
6.90741630 Bulgarian_West
6.98818288 MD_South
7.04882260 Pomak
7.12516666 Croat
7.88658988 Bulgarian_Central
10.09031714 MD_Gagauz
10.24557465 Greek_Macedonia
10.38942732 Bulgarian_East
11.13710016 Slovenian
12.54579212 Hungarians
12.61125688 Albanian_North
12.84579309 Turk_Deliorman
12.90317790 Bavarian_German
13.14337080 Italy_FriuliVG
13.78937635 Albanian_Kosovo
14.33629659 Turk_Makedonya
14.95755328 Bulgarian_Thrace
Dodecad K12b is even superior to Eurogenes K13 IMO.
I will be adding new Macedonian and Pomak averages in the future. I have the kits, yet have no time nowadays. We may need vbnetkhio for the Western Balkans.
@Lukasz
I remember I had sent you the Crimean Tatar Coast in the past, can you add it?
There should be only national (ethnic) averages in updated K13.
I will work on making new Hungarian averages for K15, since it's the other calculator good for Europeans. I also like that it has that map feature. I was thinking on K12b at first, but then I noticed how few European regions it provides, it just doesn't look as suited for generally European populations as Eurogenes does. Maybe some other time.
Why am I getting Caucasus populations in every my result?
Distance: 105.3750% / 1.05375003
Target: Abriekman
85.0 Ukrainian
9.1 Turk_Ahiska
5.9 Macedonian
Distance: 99.3008% / 0.99300814
Target: Abriekman
86.4 Ukrainian
8.6 Hemshin
4.0 Macedonian
0.6 Lak
0.4 Western_Indonesian
Distance: 179.8929% / 1.79892882
Target: Abriekman
83.9 Ukrainian
7.4 Macedonian
6.3 Azeri_Jew
1.3 Nogai
1.1 Azerbaijani_Turkey
Still there is on 0.25x
Distance: 117.3761% / 1.17376149
Target: Abriekman | ADC: 0.25x RC
79.0 Ukrainian
11.8 Macedonian
6.8 Ossetian
2.4 Tabasara
Distance: 85.3092% / 0.85309179
Target: Abriekman | ADC: 0.25x RC
61.5 Ukrainian
27.1 PL_GreaterPoland
11.4 Turk_Ahiska