Iranian GEDmatch kits

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Originally Posted by hussein khan

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 38.05
2 East_Med 19.72
3 South_Asian 15.97
4 Baltic 6.67
5 Red_Sea 4.55
6 North_Atlantic 4.4
7 West_Med 4.1
8 East_Asian 2.16
9 Siberian 1.97
10 Sub-Saharan 1.14
11 Amerindian 0.98
12 Northeast_African 0.31

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Iranian 10.87
2 Azeri 11.81
3 Kurdish 12.07
4 Turkmen 12.31
5 Kumyk 13.17
6 Afghan_Tadjik 15.09
7 Afghan_Pashtun 15.5
8 Tadjik 15.56
9 Adygei 15.87
10 Turkish 16.75
11 Balkar 16.76
12 Kabardin 16.9
13 Ossetian 17.12
14 Lezgin 17.37
15 Chechen 17.4
16 North_Ossetian 17.74
17 Makrani 18.06
18 Tabassaran 18.24
19 Georgian 18.67
20 Armenian 19.86

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 68.1% Azeri + 31.9% Kalash @ 1.96
2 57.1% Afghan_Pashtun + 42.9% Georgian_Jewish @ 1.98
3 59.6% Afghan_Pashtun + 40.4% Assyrian @ 2.3
4 59.1% Iranian + 40.9% Afghan_Pashtun @ 2.49
5 62% Afghan_Pashtun + 38% Kurdish_Jewish @ 2.53
6 68.9% Kurdish + 31.1% Burusho @ 2.73
7 56.5% Kurdish + 43.5% Afghan_Pashtun @ 3
8 57.1% Azeri + 42.9% Afghan_Pashtun @ 3.1
9 61.1% Afghan_Pashtun + 38.9% Iranian_Jewish @ 3.13
10 68.6% Azeri + 31.4% Pathan @ 3.13
11 56.4% Afghan_Pashtun + 43.6% Armenian @ 3.42
12 69.7% Azeri + 30.3% Burusho @ 3.51
13 71.7% Iranian + 28.3% Burusho @ 3.55
14 72.2% Kurdish + 27.8% Punjabi_Jat @ 3.73
15 70.8% Iranian + 29.2% Kalash @ 3.75
16 72.7% Azeri + 27.3% Punjabi_Jat @ 3.75
17 68.3% Kurdish + 31.7% Pathan @ 3.77
18 72.7% Azeri + 27.3% Sindhi @ 3.78
19 55% Georgian_Jewish + 45% Kalash @ 3.85
20 66.6% Azeri + 33.4% Balochi @ 3.85

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kurd + Pathan
Georgian+kalash
Azeri+ Sindhi

Aryan game is strong in this one

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Originally Posted by lameduck

kurd + Pathan
Georgian+kalash
Azeri+ Sindhi

Aryan game is strong in this one

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There is a strong West to East difference in Iran it seems. Stronger than I had previously believed at least.

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Originally Posted by Kyp Snow

There is a strong West to East difference in Iran it seems. Stronger than I had previously believed at least.

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I'm not an expert, of what nature is this difference?

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Originally Posted by SharpFork

I'm not an expert, of what nature is this difference?

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East Iran has more ancient Central Asian(Gedrosian) + Iranic(Aryan) proportions while West Iran has a stronger pull towards Caucasus and other West Asians. It's complementary to the YDNA data from Iran.
Additional to that East asian ancestry is mostly restricted to areas with Turcoman history (northwest and northeast).
Looks like Medes and Persians absorbed some native West Asian people (like the Gutians for example, but this is speculative)

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Originally Posted by SharpFork

I'm not an expert, of what nature is this difference?

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Proximity to Afghanistan. Here you can see that some of the Central Asian pops have a crapload of Aryan compared to Iran and the Kurds.

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Originally Posted by hussein khan

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

Spreadsheet with all the tajiki samples(from pamiris to tajikis)

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(Obviously that is not say most of them are supposed to look like Russians or something)

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Originally Posted by Kyp Snow

East Iran has more ancient Central Asian(Gedrosian) + Iranic(Aryan) proportions while West Iran has a stronger pull towards Caucasus and other West Asians. It's complementary to the YDNA data from Iran.
Additional to that East asian ancestry is mostly restricted to areas with Turcoman history (northwest and northeast).
Looks like Medians and Persians absorbed some native West Asian people (like the Gutians for example, but this is speculative)

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Is the genetic difference noticeable in terms of general phenotypes or pigmentation? Also how would we know about Medians given their areas today are mostly Azeri?

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Originally Posted by SharpFork

Is the genetic difference noticeable in terms of general phenotypes or pigmentation? Also how would we know about Medians given their areas today are mostly Azeri?

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Don't know to be honest. That's a question for the Iranian members here..
Persians are said to be derived from the Medes aswell. Probably Median + Elamite.
Also Azeris still have a lot of Iranic ancestry. And we still have other Northwestern Iranian groups like the Talysh,Tats or Gilakis.

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Originally Posted by Kyp Snow

Don't know to be honest. That's a question for the Iranian members here..
Persians are said to be derived from the Medes aswell. Probably Median + Elamite.
Also Azeris still have a lot of Iranic ancestry. And we still have other Northwestern Iranian groups like the Talysh,Tats or Gilakis.

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But the problem is that the Azeris even if we remove their East Eurasian component, would have elevated Gedrosian+IEuropean ancestry too and the problem with those 3 Iranic groups is that they lived closer to the or even right on the Caucasus, so they might not be the best fit for your common Median living around Ectabana.

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Originally Posted by SharpFork

But the problem is that the Azeris even if we remove their East Eurasian component, would have elevated Gedrosian+IEuropean ancestry too and the problem with those 3 Iranic groups is that they lived closer to the or even right on the Caucasus, so they might not be the best fit for your common Median living around Ectabana.

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I think a lot of Persian speakers are mostly Median too. Especially those from Hamedan region. And then there are the Kurds too who are also mostly Median. These groups (like Medes & Persians) are very ancient though, it might not be the smartest thing to look for pure descendants.

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Originally Posted by SharpFork

I'm not an expert, of what nature is this difference?

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There is no difference. Iranians are aryans.