Eurogenes K13 PCA for Apricity users

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03-19-2019, 10:01 PM
Ford

How much does the resolution of the plot change when you put in new samples? I noticed a slight western shift for my part relative to Dick after you put in ph2ter's family.
03-20-2019, 03:51 AM
Vojnik

Quote:

Originally Posted by J. Ketch

https://i.postimg.cc/vZBq3HHV/march20c.png

Thanks for adding me. Interesting I'm more north then Bulgarians. I feel like I'm more genetically inline with Macedonians from northern Macedonian cities like Skopje and Tetovo, rather then native region on Northern Greece. Quite far from Macedonian member ***** for example.
03-20-2019, 04:02 AM
Dick

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vojnik

Thanks for adding me. Interesting I'm more north then Bulgarians. I feel like I'm more genetically inline with Macedonians from northern Macedonian cities like Skopje and Tetovo, rather then native region on Northern Greece. Quite far from Macedonian member ***** for example.

Isn't ***** a slavicized Aromanian?
03-20-2019, 04:18 AM
Vojnik

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dick

Isn't ***** a slavicized Aromanian?

I think he claims his particular village is a Vlach village. Not sure which grandparent.
03-20-2019, 06:11 AM
Pubiczar

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dick

Isn't ***** a slavicized Aromanian?

Aren't you a Serbicized Croat Dick?
You look like Croat, you plot with Croats...
03-20-2019, 06:13 AM
Dick

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Originally Posted by *****

Aren't you a Serbicized Croat Dick?
You look like Croat, you plot with Croats...

Probably.
03-20-2019, 06:18 AM
Cumansky

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Originally Posted by Dick

Probably.

Me too bruh, Albo Croat
03-20-2019, 10:12 AM
Adam Janossy

Quote:

Originally Posted by J. Ketch

https://i.postimg.cc/PxGSXWbW/march20d.png

Is it normal for you to be closer to the Hungarian average than Stears?

Yes. He is very southeastern shifted Hungarian, more eastern than southern however (drifting towards Moldova, not Balkans). It is because he is half Székely who are Hungarian sub-group from Tranyslvania but genetically distinct from other Magyars.
03-20-2019, 05:27 PM
karakartal

Hello there.

Population
North_Atlantic 13.87
Baltic 17.35
West_Med 17.16
West_Asian 15.00
East_Med 27.79
Red_Sea 2.51
South_Asian -
East_Asian 1.81
Siberian 3.87
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.51
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.13

Could you please add this?
03-20-2019, 05:32 PM
Kaspias

Quote:

Originally Posted by karakartal

Hello there.

Population
North_Atlantic 13.87
Baltic 17.35
West_Med 17.16
West_Asian 15.00
East_Med 27.79
Red_Sea 2.51
South_Asian -
East_Asian 1.81
Siberian 3.87
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.51
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.13

Could you please add this?

Bu kim
03-20-2019, 05:36 PM
Pubiczar

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vojnik

Thanks for adding me. Interesting I'm more north then Bulgarians. I feel like I'm more genetically inline with Macedonians from northern Macedonian cities like Skopje and Tetovo, rather then native region on Northern Greece. Quite far from Macedonian member ***** for example.

You are not that different, we are still close on the PCA.
The thing is, you have inflated North Atlantic component for some reason which also showed up in your K36 report.
Otherwise, you are well into the Macedonian cluster...
03-20-2019, 05:39 PM
HungryLion

Quote:

Originally Posted by *****

You are not that different, we are still close on the PCA.
The thing is, you have inflated North Atlantic component for some reason which also showed up in your K36 report.
Otherwise, you are well into the Macedonian cluster...

Maybe he have proud proto serbian I2a1b, so he seems like as macedonian should be..Other guys is kinda to much south:rolleyes2:
03-20-2019, 05:41 PM
Pubiczar

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Originally Posted by HungryLion

Maybe he have proud proto serbian I2a1b, so he seems like as macedonian should be..Other guys is kinda to much south:rolleyes2:

He is most probably I-Z17855, nothing to do with the Serbian PH908!
03-20-2019, 05:42 PM
Vojnik

Quote:

Originally Posted by *****

You are not that different, we are still close on the PCA.
The thing is, you have inflated North Atlantic component for some reason which also showed up in your K36 report.
Otherwise, you are well into the Macedonian cluster...

You're right. I overestimated the distance. I'd love to compile all the Macedonian samples i can and create a pc map. Hmmmm.
03-20-2019, 05:43 PM
HungryLion

Quote:

Originally Posted by *****

He is most probably I-Z17855, nothing to do with the Serbian PH908!

Maybe, maybe not :eek:
03-20-2019, 05:47 PM
Vojnik

Quote:

Originally Posted by *****

He is most probably I-Z17855, nothing to do with the Serbian PH908!

End of the day, all I2a1b subclades are recently related anyway, aren't they? Eastern Euro in origin.

http://blog.vayda.pl/wp-content/uplo...er-country.jpg
03-20-2019, 05:53 PM
Pubiczar

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vojnik

End of the day, all I2a1b subclades are recently related anyway, aren't they? Eastern Euro in origin.

http://blog.vayda.pl/wp-content/uplo...er-country.jpg

Yeah, at the end of the day we all come from Africa.

But the devil is in the details, and some specific markers are only typical for some ethnic groups!
03-20-2019, 06:51 PM
J. Ketch

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Originally Posted by Moje ime

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 29.33
2 Baltic 27.8
3 East_Med 16.06
4 West_Med 14.61
5 West_Asian 9.58
6 Red_Sea 1.14
7 Oceanian 0.53
8 Northeast_African 0.51
9 Amerindian 0.44

Quote:

Originally Posted by karakartal

Hello there.

Population
North_Atlantic 13.87
Baltic 17.35
West_Med 17.16
West_Asian 15.00
East_Med 27.79
Red_Sea 2.51
South_Asian -
East_Asian 1.81
Siberian 3.87
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.51
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.13

Could you please add this?

https://i.postimg.cc/85jkkDx3/MAR21.png

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ford

How much does the resolution of the plot change when you put in new samples? I noticed a slight western shift for my part relative to Dick after you put in ph2ter's family.

Not sure, I think it changes a little when you put in new ones or take them out, but it might also be a perspective thing from zooming in or out.
03-21-2019, 04:57 AM
Vojnik

Quote:

Originally Posted by *****

Yeah, at the end of the day we all come from Africa.

But the devil is in the details, and some specific markers are only typical for some ethnic groups!

Yeah but the emergence from Africa was 70,000 years ago? We are talking about the fragmenting of I2a1b here. I2a1b came into the Balkans no longer then 2000 years ago. So even if I2a1b divided into smaller subclades, it surely didn't happen that long ago.
03-21-2019, 01:29 PM
FilhoV

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Originally Posted by J. Ketch

Just added a few national averages from the Eurogenes spreadsheet to give the PCA shape; copy and paste your values (not from the Oracle) if you want to be added. The PCA will develop and become more correct and detailed as more people are added.

https://i.postimg.cc/90KsDK81/K13a.png

I could do this for another calculator too if people would like.

Mate plot this Al Andalus kit

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 30.57
2 West_Med 22.61
3 East_Med 17.57
4 Baltic 12.6
5 Red_Sea 8.16
6 Northeast_African 6.08
7 Siberian 1.99
8 East_Asian 0.4
9 Amerindian 0.02
03-21-2019, 02:51 PM
karakartal

North_Atlantic 15.60 Pct
Baltic 16.15 Pct
West_Med 15.19 Pct
West_Asian 18.13 Pct
East_Med 23.23 Pct
Red_Sea 4.23 Pct
South_Asian 0.90 Pct
East_Asian 0.75 Pct
Siberian 4.11 Pct
Amerindian 0.48 Pct
Oceanian 1.21 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

UNDER DEVELOPMENT:

Could you please add this? Thanks.
03-21-2019, 02:52 PM
karakartal

North_Atlantic 15.60 Pct
Baltic 16.15 Pct
West_Med 15.19 Pct
West_Asian 18.13 Pct
East_Med 23.23 Pct
Red_Sea 4.23 Pct
South_Asian 0.90 Pct
East_Asian 0.75 Pct
Siberian 4.11 Pct
Amerindian 0.48 Pct
Oceanian 1.21 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

UNDER DEVELOPMENT:

Could you please add this? Thanks.

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