Eurogenes K13 PCA for Apricity users

[Pubiczar]

Thanks for adding me. Interesting I'm more north then Bulgarians. I feel like I'm more genetically inline with Macedonians from northern Macedonian cities like Skopje and Tetovo, rather then native region on Northern Greece. Quite far from Macedonian member ***** for example.

You are not that different, we are still close on the PCA.
The thing is, you have inflated North Atlantic component for some reason which also showed up in your K36 report.
Otherwise, you are well into the Macedonian cluster...

[HungryLion]

You are not that different, we are still close on the PCA.
The thing is, you have inflated North Atlantic component for some reason which also showed up in your K36 report.
Otherwise, you are well into the Macedonian cluster...

Maybe he have proud proto serbian I2a1b, so he seems like as macedonian should be..Other guys is kinda to much south

[Pubiczar]

Maybe he have proud proto serbian I2a1b, so he seems like as macedonian should be..Other guys is kinda to much south

He is most probably I-Z17855, nothing to do with the Serbian PH908!

[Vojnik]

You are not that different, we are still close on the PCA.
The thing is, you have inflated North Atlantic component for some reason which also showed up in your K36 report.
Otherwise, you are well into the Macedonian cluster...

You're right. I overestimated the distance. I'd love to compile all the Macedonian samples i can and create a pc map. Hmmmm.

[HungryLion]

He is most probably I-Z17855, nothing to do with the Serbian PH908!

Maybe, maybe not

[Vojnik]

He is most probably I-Z17855, nothing to do with the Serbian PH908!

End of the day, all I2a1b subclades are recently related anyway, aren't they? Eastern Euro in origin.

[Pubiczar]

End of the day, all I2a1b subclades are recently related anyway, aren't they? Eastern Euro in origin.

Yeah, at the end of the day we all come from Africa.

But the devil is in the details, and some specific markers are only typical for some ethnic groups!

[J. Ketch]

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 29.33
2 Baltic 27.8
3 East_Med 16.06
4 West_Med 14.61
5 West_Asian 9.58
6 Red_Sea 1.14
7 Oceanian 0.53
8 Northeast_African 0.51
9 Amerindian 0.44

Hello there.

Population
North_Atlantic 13.87
Baltic 17.35
West_Med 17.16
West_Asian 15.00
East_Med 27.79
Red_Sea 2.51
South_Asian -
East_Asian 1.81
Siberian 3.87
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.51
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.13





Could you please add this?

How much does the resolution of the plot change when you put in new samples? I noticed a slight western shift for my part relative to Dick after you put in ph2ter's family.

Not sure, I think it changes a little when you put in new ones or take them out, but it might also be a perspective thing from zooming in or out.

[Vojnik]

Yeah, at the end of the day we all come from Africa.

But the devil is in the details, and some specific markers are only typical for some ethnic groups!

Yeah but the emergence from Africa was 70,000 years ago? We are talking about the fragmenting of I2a1b here. I2a1b came into the Balkans no longer then 2000 years ago. So even if I2a1b divided into smaller subclades, it surely didn't happen that long ago.

[FilhoV]

Just added a few national averages from the Eurogenes spreadsheet to give the PCA shape; copy and paste your values (not from the Oracle) if you want to be added. The PCA will develop and become more correct and detailed as more people are added.



I could do this for another calculator too if people would like.

Mate plot this Al Andalus kit

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 30.57
2 West_Med 22.61
3 East_Med 17.57
4 Baltic 12.6
5 Red_Sea 8.16
6 Northeast_African 6.08
7 Siberian 1.99
8 East_Asian 0.4
9 Amerindian 0.02