Gypsies are invaders, nobody from Europe brought them here like African Blacks in both Americas. For some reason Europeans are taught to tolerate them and to kiss their feet like they have some obligations towards them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
They are very mixed people. Basically everything between Northern India and Southeastern Europe. You were nowhere to be found when I posted actual Romani Gedmatch results. But then again, you don't know or care much about DNA testing to begin with.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aspirin
Nobody cares the gypsie genetic, the problem with gypsies is not the gentic, but their non european behavior. But first of all you should visit a real gypsie ghetto in Romania, Hungary or Balkans, because there is no such thing where you live, so you dont know anything about them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
In the Balkans Gypsies are direct product of Ottoman invasion. Ottomans brought them as own servants, blacksmiths, musicians etc. Vast majority of Gypsies in the Balkans in Ottoman time were Muslims as their Turkish masters. When Ottomans are removed part of Balkan Gypsies converted to Christianity, but still significant part of them are Muslims. In the Balkans sometimes Ottomans used Gypsies for crimes against Christian population as revenge for their uprisings, same as Bashi-bazouk.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aspirin
Would you like to post examples from the threads about the length? Or the content in the rest? You take the one post from the threads that have hardly anything, and post it here like it means something. The threads have no posts. No content. You don't understand that most of the people here don't participate in these discussions. You either cannot count or are embarrassed by the weakness of your argument. Hungarian-only threads do not get even close to the clicks and participants of English threads about the same topic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blondie
Why is this challenging for you to understand? If you are so demoralized, then you can feel free to ignore everything and enjoy yourself as you will. It's already sad how you think that Hungary is dead. What do I say to you that would mean anything? Also, I almost didn't post at all on TA in 2021. Do I need to partake in every thread that has 3-6 posts and add my one sentence in Hungarian? I will speak how I will with who I will.
Now you are just burying the topics you failed to address and your Szekler hypocrisy, which I very politely asked you to clarify. If you want to make any claims about me, then I am right here.
I said, i will debate you in hungarian, but you dont want. Btw don't change the subject, i posted many link from various hungarian topics, there were serious debates in hungarian in long comments, didn't you really find any topic in the last 4 years where you could make a comment in hungarian? Hard to belive, but of course you always have cheap excuses why dont you speak hungarian, never in the last 4 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Turul Karom
Probably, in Moldova they are mentioned for the first time in early 15th century, in Wallachia 30-40 years earlier. Earlier they are mentioned in the territory of today Greece including islands and Anatolia. This show a corelation between Ottoman interventions into Europe and Gypsy presence here, but probably they were pushed towards Anatolia and Europe by more early Seljuk invasions from Iran direction. This explain and their genetics (1/3 Euro, 1/3 West Asian, 1/3 South Asian) and their language who contain many Persian, Kurdish, Armenian and even Greek words.Quote:
Originally Posted by Varda
It will be a debate in English or nothing because people will not read it, especially at the lengths. Even Hungarian members here speak English. There is no problem allowing the Lingua Franca to remain. You posted links with pathetically small numbers of replies, with OP posts that are just links and responses that are just emojis. The fact you also never posted the viewer count of English Hungarian topics vs. Hungarian-only Hungarian topics is embarrassing for your argument as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blondie
There is no topic change, I am reminding you that you didn't address the Szekler hypocrisy. You can address it while still being accusative, you know.
This is like showing you a paprika to your face and you insisting there is nothing there. I've translated for people, helped figure things out for people, spoken with people in Hungarian as I have seen fit. I don't know what else to say. I barely posted in 2021 on TA (I think it was 9 or 10 months?). If you find the excuses cheap, then don't bother with me. You're the one who engaged with the haplogroup points in post 92 that were not even directed at you.
English gets more views and participation, period. If you can't deal with it, then that's your problem.
Everyone can read it with google translator, and every single other hungarian members use hungarian many times what you don't use. My prev. links are not pathetic (why do you use such words?, why are you angry? :D), just refuted your lyings that hungarian subforum is dead, and there are no hungarian debates. You are the one and only member in this forum who dont use his native language, never. I remember every post from the hungarian topic in the last 4 years and i have never seen you to use hungarian language. You are hungarian from Hungary right? Why don't you speak hungarian? Dont be shy :rotfl:Quote:
Originally Posted by Turul Karom
I have, and that is not the point of the conversation. The "pathetic" was in relation to the size. English threads get several times the interaction of Hungarian-only threads. You keep saying "never," but that is your problem. I have already explained my reasoning. This is an impasse situation. Hence, if you don't want to explain your points further, then I guess that's it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blondie
Would you like to accuse me of something in particular, as you have in the past?
Even if Gypsies were invaders 1000 years ago their descendants wouldnt be today - they would be native born. But they were not invaders more like refugees, invader has a different meaning and usually means that they want to subjugate the native population. Or are colonial american still immigrants even if their ancestors moved 500 years ago to the US?Quote:
Originally Posted by Aspirin
2. Soldiering as SocializationQuote:
Originally Posted by Varda
The Roma as Serbian combatants were mentioned in
both of the Serbian uprisings organized in the 19th
century (in 1804–1813 and in 1815). For example, the
contemporary Vuk Stefanovic Karadžić wrote that “the
Gypsies had their own commander during the uprising”
(Acković, 2009, p. 91). In addition, the famous Serbian
poet, Sima Milutinović Sarajlija, wrote about the heroism of the Roma combatants. The first Serbian uprising
brought the Roma civil rights recognition, equality before the courts, freedom of religion, respect for customs
and traditions as well as land heritage. However, these
measures disappeared with the collapse of the Serbian
insurgency. The Roma were offered similar rights after
the second Serbian uprising, in 1815. However, it appears that this time the reforms did not bring palpable results. The historian Vladimir Stojančević explained
this as the result of a weaker Roma presence in the
rebel forces and its leadership than was the case in
the previous uprising (Jakšić & Bašić, 2005, pp. 20–21).
The Roma reappeared as Serbian fighters during the
turbulence of 1848. They were part of the forces sent
from the Serbian Principality to Serbs living in Southern
Hungary. Atanasije-Tasa Ivanović from the Serbian town
of Jagodina, the man responsible for tax collection from
the Serbian Roma, was ordered to form an exclusively
Roma outfit:
With 850 skilful Gypsies, along with zurlas and drums,
he continued during the freezing cold in December
1848. There were few of the Jagodina Gypsies, up
to 300, but others from Kragujevac, Pozarevac joined
them along the way, following Tasa’s order, which had
to be executed unconditionally. Sabac, Smederevo
and other places. There were up to 900 of them near
Višnjica on the Danube. It was an unusual and very
colourful army: One group (from Jagodina) wore the
ordinary clothes, with pistols and holsters, curved
sabres; others had more beautiful, colourful garbs
with a scarf around their heads, with large belts, in
which the guns were kept, together with the sharp
knives, a whip with a lead top, and with rifles on their
shoulders; on their feet they wore cavalry boots with
spurs; their banners had various flags. (Cvetić, 1910,
pp. 38–43)
Once across the Danube, fierce fighting ensued with
the Hungarian army near the town of Arad. It has been
recorded that 15 of the Serbian Roma soldiers were killed
in this battle (Cvetić, 1910, pp. 38–43).
In 1883, a standing army with compulsory military
service was introduced in the Kingdom of Serbia. This
was one of many measures aimed at modernizing the
state which had gained its independence in 1878. How
did the Roma fit into this system, which was based on
state bureaucracy and, above all, on the need for accurate addresses and years of birth? At first, the Serbian
authorities were tolerant and aware that a number of
Roma were clearly beyond the army’s reach. For the time
being only those Roma with permanent addresses and
valid documents were called up. However, the state decided to recruit also the so-called ‘wandering Roma.’ In
October 1891, the Serbian War Ministry made a decision
that would significantly affect the way of life of the Roma
in Serbia. It was a direct and dramatic interference of the
state in the traditional way of life of native Roma:
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Many Gypsy vagrants avoid service in the unit and in
the reserve. The reason is that as wanderers they cannot be processed through the census book in any municipality, so they are not recruited as such. In order
to stop the waste of such material for the army, I order that all Gypsy vagrants, from 20 to 30 years of age,
be recruited every year and sent exclusively to the infantry. Recruiting, reviewing and deploying personnel
should be performed on the fifth day, after the other
recruits have already been sent to the infantry. During
the recruitment, there should be an interview of the
Gypsy family in question, regarding the recruit’s most
frequent residence or place of work. When deployed,
the district commanders will report to the battalion
commander concerned, for each recruit, where each
person will reside after serving. Upon dismissal, the
battalion commander will report to the regiment in
question about the trained soldiers, who will now be
assigned to it as reservists.
As every year the infantry command issues a special
call summoning its recruits, the commanders all regiment districts, as soon as they find out that such call
has been published, will order to the administrative
authorities in their area that on that day…all municipal authorities are obliged to bring to the headquarters all the Gypsy vagrants who are found in their district. Of these, all able-bodied persons who have not
yet served in the military and who have not reached
the age of 30 should be listed and trained.
The age of each Gypsy will be evaluated by the doctor attached to the district commander in charge—
unless other documents are to be presented by the
Gypsies themselves. (“Propisi, naredjenja i objašnjenja,” 1891)
It is hard to estimate how efficient this measure was. It
is reasonable to assume that it definitely increased the
numbers within the Serbian army’s contingent. It also
brought about changes in the lives of many Roma. The
long two-year stay in the army acted also as socialization process. Namely, one of the elementary activities in
the army was the literacy course. On the other hand, the
state was trying to transform all Roma into more permanent residents. It is important to note that the infantry
was the only branch of the army reserved for the ‘Roma
wanderers.’ This type of soldiering did not ask for any
particular pre-existing skills unlike the artillery or engineering. And unlike the cavalry, no particular property
(a horse) was needed.
In 1912 the state summoned its Roma reservists to
arms. This was the First Balkan War. Among the hundreds of thousands of Serb soldiers ready to cross the
Serb-Ottoman border, there were many Roma. One of
them, a soldier named Ahmet Ademović, became part of
Serbian military legends. Firstly, his performance at war
shows that many Roma men acted in an exemplary manner in Serbian uniform. His biography also speaks a lot
about patterns used when depicting Roma heroism, and
more broadly, it offers insights into the wider trends in
remembering the actions of Serbian troops during the
1912–1918 period. It is not clear who was the first to
write down the story of Ahmet Ademović. In 1989 the military enthusiast Tomislav Vlahović published a book dedicated to the soldiers who had earned the highest Serbian
military decoration: the Karadjordje Star. Naturally, he
mentioned Ademović’s story as well. By doing so he secured the preservation of the story for future decades.
However, he wrote down two versions of the story which
were circulating at the time.
The first version of these was that Ademović had a
crucial role in the Kumanovo battle of October 1912. This
was the initial and most important clash of the Serbian
and the Ottoman troops in the First Balkan War. The battle did not begin well for the Serbs who did not anticipate that they would run into the core of the Ottoman
troops so soon after entering Ottoman territory. Vlahović
described how, at the most critical moment of the battle,
Ademović gave a trumpet signal for the assault instead
of the retreat—as he had been previously ordered by his
commander. Ademović did so because he estimated, on
his own initiative, that the moment was ripe for counterattack. Ultimately, his decision reversed the battlefield
situation. In the second version, Ademović’s action was
even more audacious. It was claimed that Ademović was
decorated because he actually disguised himself before
the battle. Wearing Ottoman uniform, he went into the
enemy camp where he deceived the enemy by playing
a false signal—a trumpet sign for withdrawal (Vlahović,
1989, pp. 85, 421).
Even with all the shortcomings of the Ottoman
forces in 1912, something like this seems highly unlikely.
Moreover, the idea that a battle involving tens of thousands of soldiers could be decided by a single private reveals a highly romanticised pattern of interpreting past.
There is no doubt that Ademović earned his decoration
in October 1912, but whatever he did, the post war storytellers transformed his exploits into a powerful myth.
Within this myth we see certain roles reserved for the
Serbian Roma. Moreover, these roles corresponded to
their perceived peacetime characteristics. According to
that pattern, the Roma were bold, skilful, cunning and
good in deception. In the eyes of the Serbian storytellers
it appeared as if the features attributed to the Roma, and
which were criminalized in peacetime, suddenly became
desirable at times of war as they provided a critical advantage to the Serbian army.
There were other Roma who secured high military
decorations. One of them was Rustem Sejdić. Again, like
Ademović, he was a unit’s trumpeter. The popular story
described his deed in similar tone to that of Ademović.
Namely, his unit had participated in the famous battle
for the Kajmakcalan heights in 1916, where on his own
initiative, he gave a signal for the critical attack. He also
played false trumpet signals in order to spread confusion
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within the Bulgarian units who were about to launch a
fresh attack (Dimitrijević, 2015). Again, this is the stuff of
legend. One man had shown initiative and had resolved
the colossal carnage. As in the previous case, the Roma
soldier was depicted as bold, artful but manipulative.
The last known Roma who won the Karadjordje Star
was also, like Ademović, from the southern Serbian town
of Leskovac. His name was Amet Ametović. In the popular version of events, he was an expert in throwing
hand grenades (Ivanović, 2016). However, his case study
shows how huge were the differences between facts
and popular accounts that spread after the battle. What
differentiated Ametović’s case from the two previously
mentioned biographies was the fact that Ametović gave
two interviews to the Yugoslav press, providing a sober
account of his fighting days and his accomplishments.
Firstly, he provided details lacking in the previous case
studies—such as the name of his unit, and his commanders ranging from the regimental down to the unit level.
He also explained his specific duties as well the actions
which had earned him the decoration.
Explaining his exploit Ametović did not provide any
breath-taking story. He was a corporal and was responsible for leading patrols on scouting missions. This happened in Western Serbia in the autumn of 1914, near the
border town of Krupanj. Ametović’s unit was involved in
heavy fighting near one notorious position, the Captain’s
Fountain (Kapetanova cesma) close to the Drina River. He
said the following:
We go at night and then we stumble upon the body
of an enemy soldier. I stab him. The stiff human body
does not move….I whisper to my men: Don’t be afraid,
it’s only a corpse. And that was our job during the days
and during the nights….I fought for the King and for
the Fatherland. We all fought heroically….However,
the commander in June 1915 gathered our company
together and read out: Amet Ametović is decorated
with the Karadjordje Star; he then gave me this decoration. (“Jedini Ciganin nosilac Karadjordjeve zvezde
zivi u Leskovcu,” 1936; italics added)
He received his decoration during a pause on the Serbian
front in summer 1915. His story, without any spectacular
actions sounds realistic, underlying war’s brutality. As he
described it, it was a prosaic and merciless business while
the very decoration was the result of continuous activity
by the entire squad.
Roma civilians had often been mentioned in the
memories of contemporaries but their presence in soldiers’ diaries was almost exclusively linked with the darkest sides of the war. Survival for many Roma was extremely difficult even in peacetime, but in wartime it became very precarious. The most vulnerable category of
the population saw the battleground as a place where
its limited survival resources could be replenished.
Journalists following the operations of the Serbian
army near Shkoder recorded the following scene where
the Roma ‘cleaned up’ the battle ground. It took place in
February 1913:
The Serbs had around one thousand dead after their
attack on the Brdica positions. They all remained on
the field bellow the hill and they were still not able
to bury them. Gypsies are usually used for this work,
they gladly do so in the hope of booty. Turkish soldiers
have already deprived the dead of their weapons, but
there are still some left and the Gypsies are back with
shoes, belts, caps, handkerchiefs and underwear. In
their camp, near the bazaar, they later share the loot.
Tonight, four Gypsy women left their camp to wait for
their husbands, and when they spotted them, they
went to meet them. At that moment, a shrapnel, coming over from Shkoder, burst over their heads killing
them all. (“Iz Skadarske epopeje,” 1913)
3. As Soldiers in World War I
In 1914, the Roma were called up again. The Swiss
criminologist who came to Serbia, Rudolph Archibald
Reiss, described a scene he witnessed in the autumn
of 1914 which faithfully exemplifies shared patriotism
and tragedy. It also however illustrates the naivety with
which some Roma approached modern warfare, expecting it to be an extremely brief encounter between two
armies after which things would quickly go back to normal. This happened in the town of Valjevo:
The streets in front of the Sekulić Hotel, which
is on the corner, are full of people and wagons.
Everywhere, next to the walls, sit the middle-aged
peasants who come to report to their units belonging
to the third levy. Waiting to come before the control
commission, they eat and take a sunbathe. Among
them, there are also Gypsies with their bronze faces
like Indians. They are surrounded by their family members, women and children, who carry supplies. One
very old Gypsy woman, with a pipe in her mouth
which is almost solely composed of the tobacco chamber, sits on the doorstep of a house. They tell me
she accompanied her son three days ago, he left with
his regiment, and she is waiting for him to return.
Poor grandmother, you will probably wait in vain! This
world is silent, serious, but in the bright eyes of this
people I see that they are determined to defend their
country’s independence and are not afraid to sacrifice
their lives for this. (Reiss, 1928/1991, p. 11)
There are numerous mentions of the Roma as part of
military music too. The Gypsy band is mentioned as a
standard feature in celebrating military victory. Here, by
focusing on the Roma minority it is also possible to see
various elements of combat culture. One officer, Mladen
Zujović, wrote about the atmosphere after the Battle
of Kolubara, when in 1914 Austro-Hungarian troops had
been expelled from Serbia for the second time.
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Where did Serbian Gypsies come from?Quote:
Originally Posted by Varda
The first reference to gypsies in Serbia is found in a 1348 document, by which Serbian emperor Stefan Dušan donated some gypsy slaves to a monastery in Prizren. In the 15th century, Romani migrations from Hungary are mentioned. In 1927, a Serbian-Romani humanitarian organization was founded.
Okay so your problem is english is the lingua franca and you dont want to write in hungaria because nobody will understand right? Okay then i have a great idea, we will debate in english and hungarian at same time. Firstly you write your comment in english and after that hungarian, i will do same, so everyone will understand everything, thats okay? Just speak hungarian Turul speak hungarian! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Turul Karom
Just post in whatever language you want and he will reply if he wants to. But this thread has been seriously derailed with politics, Gypsies, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blondie
That's what I was talking about. Like it or not, but you cannot deport a population that has been in the region for 600+ years. The truth is the Gypsies don't really have a homeland, they are eternal nomads. Indians don't need them either, they have 100s of millions (!) of their own poor and malnourished.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mortimer
No one considers even to deport second or third generation immigrants who are native born citizens, but they want to deport gypsies, it was estimated that gypsies are 32 generations in Europe. I read that somewhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
Encouraging remigration of unassimilable foreign non-whites is one of the core ideas of the Identitarians which I would wholeheartedly support but with the Gypsies they really have nowhere to go. Turkish people have Turkey, the Pakistanis have Pakistan, the Africans have Africa and so on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mortimer
I think it is more politically correct and more people do it to say you want to deport gypsies or even kill them, i saw on youtube comments like "hitler did a good job putting the gypos in concentration camps" then about anyone else. But in general you are right about the political ideologies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
Yes, why do you need to prononunce this? What an eastern bloc ex-kommie have to do with Turkish people of western europe? Do you think you have powers to have a word on them?Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
Congratulations, you got me write this post. People like you shouldnt exist. All problems come from low-IQ backwards people like you.
This sounds fine to post in both, though for longer comments, it could take some time. This sounds like something I would be happy to do, even though it will make posting literally 2x longer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blondie
However, there is the issue that I would like addressed, which is why would I need to do this? You first claim that you can say things better in Hungarian rather than English, so then why would you want to speak to me in both languages at the same time after speaking in exclusively English for so long? It seems like a personal request that you would like from me for some reason to specifically address you in Hungarian now. If you were friendly with me, I would have happily agreed, but as it seems like you wish to make a different point with your insisting, then I am skeptical. I believe that you have accused me of being Turkish before because of politics (as well as other things).
So, how about this:
I will speak in Hungarian and English with you if you very politely ask me, and also give me some reasons as to why you feel like you should be dictating the language that I speak to you in when English clearly has been working fine for everyone. If you had built up friendship and asked me to speak more Hungarian because it was better for you, then there would not have been a problem. However, you decide to be hostile, sarcastic, etc. Ask me as you would someone who you were interested in having an actual conversation with.
The first steps are politeness and honesty. Now ask me with them, and we can continue.
If it's okay for you then why didn't you write it in hungarian too?Quote:
Originally Posted by Turul Karom
I dont think you will get what you ask for. Writing like a 'certain'person', insisting to talk in Hungarian all the time like 'that person', just like 4 years ago, funny enough this sock appeared some time after Stears was banned, so there are reasons to suspect. Totally insane, telling me this forum belongs to Europeans only (!) trying to dominate everybody and trying to attack and discard all the Eurasians like me and others, thinking she is the authority or something here. What even more ridiculous is he says this thread is only about Hungarians but the threads name is ''Brand new genetic study on the origins of Huns, Avars and Hungarian Conquerors'', all of them are factually my ancestors. We have seen your results, Turkic-shifted, also I have shared almost all my results, all compatible with steppes and proto-Turkics with northern European shift, but we havent seen this person's own yet, which tells a lotQuote:
Originally Posted by Turul Karom
Anyway I dont want to waste time with this, what I want to share is another recent genetic analysis of Hungarian Conquerors that you have shared with me some
time ago, maybe you even shared here too but dont remember, with a smaller sample group from Tisza region. The results are also very interesting:
''We compared our results with public databases and discovered that the Hungarian Conquerors originated from three distant territories of the Eurasian steppes, where different ethnicities joined them: Lake Baikal-Altai Mountains (Huns/Turkic peoples), Western Siberia-Southern Urals (Finno-Ugric peoples), and the Black Sea-Northern Caucasus (Caucasian and Eastern European peoples). As such, the ancient Hungarians conquered their homeland as an alliance of tribes, and they were the genetic relatives of Asiatic Huns, Finno-Ugric peoples, Caucasian peoples, and Slavs from the Eastern European steppes.''
https://link.springer.com/article/10...20-019-00996-0
Why would I? You have been given the criteria to speak Hungarian with me if you want me to invest more time in writing a conversation twice:Quote:
Originally Posted by Blondie
I will speak in Hungarian and English with you if you very politely ask me, and also give me some reasons as to why you feel like you should be dictating the language that I speak to you in when English clearly has been working fine for everyone. If you had built up friendship and asked me to speak more Hungarian because it was better for you, then there would not have been a problem. However, you decide to be hostile, sarcastic, etc. Ask me as you would someone who you were interested in having an actual conversation with.
The first steps are politeness and honesty. Now ask me with them, and we can continue.
A great genetic study, indeed. Thank you for your perspective and input by including this highly-relevant quote. I would also like to point out that there is mixing with Avar populations from present-day Dagestan:Quote:
Originally Posted by Buusra
https://i.ibb.co/myTmN7Q/Screenshot-...nd-Asian-p.png
If you think i'm Stears that you are really mentally retarded :rotfl: I reported Stears when he came back 3 years ago just saying...Quote:
Originally Posted by Buusra
You are the real sock account, hard to belive that you have only 575 post in the last 5 years, and if we see the past almost every single turkish user had tons of account. This is also interesting that you appeared again when a pedo acc started to flooding this forum with such pics and i remember you started to attack everyone including other turkish users like Kivan and Itilvolga.
And if you are on european forum as non european, you should stop the making anti-european posts, just thats all. I hope its not difficult to your arabic brain.
Blondie is not Stears. Lol. Please, be resonable.
I think she or he also attacked me. Otherwise why would a random Turkish_Trabzon send me this PM out of nothing?Quote:
Originally Posted by Blondie
https://i.ibb.co/ZmfJhWC/1.jpg
In case anybody is interested in its translation.. (google)
Spoiler!
Yes this is Busra's acc. Its impossible that she/he has only 575 comment in the last 5 years. Obviously she/he has several account, like others already said it earlier. When Busra attacked Itilvolga and Kivan they said this user has several acc and spreaded lies in pm, very sneakly behaviour. Now im pretty sure that this insane "girl" is behind the pedo attacks on forum.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hektor12
I also got pm from him:
https://i.imgur.com/uwYpZDI.jpg
LOL xD xD xDQuote:
Originally Posted by Blondie
and you stick it in your gypsy brain that it is your rough posts that are non-european, you made it personal so you get what you deserve. You cant prove anything trying to show me as if I am someone else because everybody here knows who I am including Loki, right from the beginning. I am not posting constantly cause I am too busy with many other things irl, coming here to share academic facts and articles only, and talking about taxonomy sometimes, not everybody is jobless trolls spreading zillions of nonsense 7/24 like you. I am a real person who is in touch outside TA with some people from here already, either messaging or skypeing, they know who I am so I dont need approval of socksQuote:
Originally Posted by Blondie
You are not someone I take seriously but how could you two share those pms here openly, it must be a reason to be banned without consent of the counterpart and what you try to do is childish and pathetic ahah anyways its mods' decision. Wait until Mitrjeyd is here, he will decide what he will doQuote:
Originally Posted by Hektor12
oh but I cant help asking. what kind of honourless troll are you? You get mad at Leto for calling you brown but these Stearsoline and blondie are calling you and Turkish people brown all the time and humiliating you all, still you are licking their feet. Why? isnt it discrimination lol? My, why are some Turkish posters here are just losers and have no self-respect? Fortunately not all Turkish people are like that, the real Turks ofc, the ones with real noble Turk ancestry, they always show themselves with their pride, decent behaviour and phenotype, nothing like a mongrel trying to hunt in forums
Excuse me but I didn't say anything like that. Never called that user "brown" because I've never even seen his face. I do not talk to/engage with that guy at all for my own reasons and to be honest that post of mine did not even have any racism (whatever it means) since I simply said the Gypsies, unlike other nations, do not have a country to go to. Had I said Nigeria, Afghanistan or Russia instead of Turkey, that individual wouldn't have batted an eye.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buusra
I don't think I have Turkey.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
You are quoting a guy in your signature who is constantly insulting(and is posting even worse things) about Turks. You can be an atheist, its ok but I wouldn't eat the kebap of people who don't wash their hands, although I love every kind of kebap.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hektor12
Btw, this weirdo sent weird messages to me too. Sometimes I don't know whether busra is believing herself or just trolls here, but I hope she knows that her postings aren't proving sanity. I am not sure whether it is true but I heard she is responsible for the ban of ratcat one of the most decent Turkish user which this forum ever had, he was an enrichment for the dodecad threads which were once the main reason why I am here in this forum. Therefore I would say that no one should take her seriously and if she attacks you, respond with fun, not with seriousness.
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Originally Posted by Buusra
Its a faulty PM, i already repoorted this PM, theres nothing private in it its sole f and c words. Its interesting why do you defend him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buusra
He has never called me brown and i wouldnt care anyways. I dont care if somebody calls me something.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buusra
I have never seen them calling me or Tukish people brown honestly. I wouldnt mind though, its their opinion. Do they see themselves in a position that they can open their mouths for guest workers in Germany like Leto? No because they arent low IQ. Oliña is nice person that i know since i was new member, i like her and she knows me better than everybody else in this forum, shes special for me. Cutie is nice girl who has a good hearth, she told me long time ago that she wont write negative things about Turks and i see that shes loyal to her promise.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buusra
Are you one of them? (:Quote:
Originally Posted by Buusra
But you didnt say Nigeria, Afghanistan or Russia. You said Turkey because you see yourself in a magnificent place that you can open your mouth about guest workers of Germany, something you have absolutely nothing to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
Does he say the truth? This is important. I dont care about insulting or racism against Turks. I only have problems with idiots. You can talk with a racist but you cant talk with an idiot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mejgusu
In an indirect way but yeah we can say that she or he is responsible. Shes also responsible for Kivan and itilvolga apla bans. Probably the greatest achievement in her/his life.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mejgusu
Yes we have taked about it long time ago, and i didn't even write anything in the turkish threads, because i have nothing against them. Actually i had good relationship with Kivan and Itilvolga although me and Itilvolga had a little confrontation because of a misunderstanding, but she was a decent user and i think we were friends, i lobbied to unban them when they got ban. But you are also decent user just like Marmara or there was a turkish guy named "Ice" he was aso cool face.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hektor12