Gedmatch calculators on Vahaduo

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Originally Posted by Abriekman

And I have a question why is Bulgaria_Northeastern average is more southern, than Bulgarian_Southeastern, Bulgarian_Southcsntral and all other Bulgarian averages?

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From what I know it is one kit only. Maybe for K13 is more but probably not. I can remove it.

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Originally Posted by MoroLP

To you maybe is, to others, it's not - but it depends on what you want to do. If it is needed to edit the source for required distance, multiple, and PCA.

In other words, again, we should have a general and well-detailed database source on Vahaduo which would be an intermediate between the concise minimum and sub-regional maximum.

@Lucas, can you create a sticky thread that will be easily accessible for others with spreadsheets of a minimum number, which is roughly 1 national average + 1-3 regional averages depending on the country, and of a maximum number, which is all these regional and sub-regional averages we are speaking about? All happy.

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I ask Loki to make it sticky.

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Originally Posted by Lucas

I ask Loki to make it sticky.

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Let's have a new thread. 250 pages is way too long and also the title doesn't make sense anymore 'cause it's no longer new.

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Originally Posted by Kyp

For Dodecadk12b:

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Iran_Arab,18.52,0.29,2.61,0.21,6.69,3.63,4.18,3.35,23.35,0.45,34.63,1.87

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Originally Posted by Leto

Let's have a new thread. 250 pages is way too long and also the title doesn't make sense anymore 'cause it's no longer new.

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I don't like this custom to make vol. 2, vol.3 etc of longer threads.

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Originally Posted by Lucas

I don't like this custom to make vol. 2, vol.3 etc of longer threads.

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Then it will only continue to grow. I would close this one and make a Vahaduo custom spreadsheets one, something like that.

By the way, you need to skip a dozen of pages back, there were some minor updates like Pamiri, some averages with rounded values, renamed Russians, etc.

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Originally Posted by Lucas

I don't like this custom to make vol. 2, vol.3 etc of longer threads.

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Then it will only continue to grow becoming harder to navigate. I would close this one and make a Vahaduo custom spreadsheets one, something like that.

By the way, you need to skip a dozen of pages back, there were some minor updates like Pamiri, some averages with rounded values, renamed Russians, etc.

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Originally Posted by Lucas

From what I know it is one kit only. Maybe for K13 is more but probably not. I can remove it.

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You don't need to remove it. Ion already explained it and there are 9 samples and it is not more southern than Southeastern Bulgarian for sure.

I've polished the Italian references from Dodecad (rounded the values and changed from Italy to Italian)

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Italian_Abruzzo,7.59,0.03,3.23,0.04,29.12,16.1,0,0.08,10.91,0.32,32.6,0
Italian_Aosta_Valley,5.82,0.06,1.62,0.14,40.65,29.99,0.25,0.05,4.3,0.03,16.98,0.1
Italian_Apulia,7.38,0.32,2.81,0.34,26.2,17.19,0.27,0.27,11.31,0.41,33.36,0.15
Italian_Calabria,7,0.13,4.18,0.08,27,11.44,0.26,0.6,13.52,0.22,35.45,0.1
Italian_Campania,7.07,0.09,2.82,0.09,28.91,13.73,0.1,0.33,12.32,0.02,34.34,0.1
Italian_Emilia,6.13,0,1.15,0.18,37.61,22.76,0.14,0.11,7.4,0.25,24.22,0.06
Italian_Friuli_VG,5.44,0.28,1.17,0.01,34.92,29.32,0.08,0,7.03,0,21.72,0.02
Italian_Lazio,6.73,0,2.67,0.05,31.7,19.82,0.26,0.07,9.79,0.17,28.75,0
Italian_Liguria,5.1,0.05,2.01,0.09,37.89,23.23,0.25,0.05,7.89,0.05,23.39,0
Italian_Lombardy,4.75,0.12,1.12,0.04,39.63,25.08,0.17,0.01,6.41,0.03,22.62,0.03
Italian_Marche,6.42,0.08,2.38,0.05,32.91,18.72,0.29,0.27,9.80,0,29.042,0.03
Italian_Piedmont,5.92,0.13,1.73,0.09,37.82,26.02,0.04,0.04,6.73,0.02,21.37,0.1
Italian_Romagna,6.08,0,1.87,0.13,34.66,20.98,0.1,0,8.99,0,27.19,0
Italian_Sicily,7.31,0.48,4.59,0.10,27.22,13.45,0.25,0.65,12.1,0.05,33.16,0.64
Italian_Trentino,4.79,0.22,0.73,0.04,38.71,29.79,0,0,5.47,0.02,20.22,0
Italian_Tuscany,6.12,0.05,1.21,0.14,36.89,21.81,0.16,0.06,8.21,0,25.36,0
Italian_Veneto,5.44,0.04,1.43,0.18,36.93,27.16,0.06,0,5.73,0.15,22.83,0.03

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Originally Posted by Thracian

You don't need to remove it. Ion already explained it and there are 9 samples and it is not more southern than Southeastern Bulgarian for sure.

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Ok I didn't. I don't remember if Bulgarian regions aren't from Kaspias?

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Originally Posted by Leto

I've polished the Italian references from Dodecad (rounded the values and changed from Italy to Italian)

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Italian_Abruzzo,7.59,0.03,3.23,0.04,29.12,16.1,0,0.08,10.91,0.32,32.6,0
Italian_Aosta_Valley,5.82,0.06,1.62,0.14,40.65,29.99,0.25,0.05,4.3,0.03,16.98,0.1
Italian_Apulia,7.38,0.32,2.81,0.34,26.2,17.19,0.27,0.27,11.31,0.41,33.36,0.15
Italian_Calabria,7,0.13,4.18,0.08,27,11.44,0.26,0.6,13.52,0.22,35.45,0.1
Italian_Campania,7.07,0.09,2.82,0.09,28.91,13.73,0.1,0.33,12.32,0.02,34.34,0.1
Italian_Emilia,6.13,0,1.15,0.18,37.61,22.76,0.14,0.11,7.4,0.25,24.22,0.06
Italian_Friuli_VG,5.44,0.28,1.17,0.01,34.92,29.32,0.08,0,7.03,0,21.72,0.02
Italian_Lazio,6.73,0,2.67,0.05,31.7,19.82,0.26,0.07,9.79,0.17,28.75,0
Italian_Liguria,5.1,0.05,2.01,0.09,37.89,23.23,0.25,0.05,7.89,0.05,23.39,0
Italian_Lombardy,4.75,0.12,1.12,0.04,39.63,25.08,0.17,0.01,6.41,0.03,22.62,0.03
Italian_Marche,6.42,0.08,2.38,0.05,32.91,18.72,0.29,0.27,9.80,0,29.042,0.03
Italian_Piedmont,5.92,0.13,1.73,0.09,37.82,26.02,0.04,0.04,6.73,0.02,21.37,0.1
Italian_Romagna,6.08,0,1.87,0.13,34.66,20.98,0.1,0,8.99,0,27.19,0
Italian_Sicily,7.31,0.48,4.59,0.10,27.22,13.45,0.25,0.65,12.1,0.05,33.16,0.64
Italian_Trentino,4.79,0.22,0.73,0.04,38.71,29.79,0,0,5.47,0.02,20.22,0
Italian_Tuscany,6.12,0.05,1.21,0.14,36.89,21.81,0.16,0.06,8.21,0,25.36,0
Italian_Veneto,5.44,0.04,1.43,0.18,36.93,27.16,0.06,0,5.73,0.15,22.83,0.03

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Originally Posted by Lucas

Ok I didn't. I don't remember if Bulgarian regions aren't from Kaspias?

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Eurogenes K13 is from Ion. Dodecad K12b is from me. For details:

Eurogenes K13

Dodecad K12b

These are the overlooked posts

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Originally Posted by Amon

For Dodecad k12b

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Tibetan,1.97,12.01,0.21,14.82,0,0.6,6.7,0.16,0.03,62.8,0,0.7
Lipka_Tatar,9.16,10.71,0.13,1.71,14.76,31.86,1.03,0,2.18,12.9,15.43,0.12

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Originally Posted by Leto

For Eurogenes K13

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Pamiri_Tajikistan,13.48,15.13,0,37.53,3.65,0.14,19.84,1.37,4.92,3.14,0.23,0.06,0.53

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Originally Posted by Dunai

Please remove these on K13:
Latvian,26.7383333333,58.3616666667,6.41,2.7266666 667,0.7816666667,1.095,0.7733333333,0.0933333333,1 .4333333333,0.7316666667,0.3216666667,0.3283333333 ,0.22
Slovak,30.84,37.1846153846,12.9876923077,6.2976923 077,8.0007692308,1.0869230769,1.0276923077,0.39153 84615,0.5769230769,0.7338461538,0.5307692308,0.146 1538462,0.2138461538
Turk_Western_Thrace,18.13666667,18.07,14.46333333, 14.55333333,23.87,3.053333333,0.56,1.393333333,4.1 93333333,0.673333333,0.356666667,0.043333333,0.316 666667
Turk_Bulgaria_Northeast,19.86333333,21.44333333,13 .87666667,13.28666667,20.28333333,2.653333333,2.03 6666667,2.72,1.99,0.863333333,0.296666667,0.196666 667,0.493333333
Turk_Bulgaria_Central,20.69666667,18.65666667,15.3 9,15.38333333,18.53666667,2.72,2.336666667,1.65333 3333,3.256666667,0.893333333,0.196666667,0.17,0.11

And replace them with these, as I rounded them for aesthetic reasons:
Latvian,26.74,58.36,6.41,2.73,0.78,1.1,0.77,0.09,1 .43,0.73,0.32,0.33,0.22
Slovak,30.84,37.18,12.99,6.3,8,1.09,1.03,0.39,0.58 ,0.73,0.53,0.15,0.21
Turk_Western_Thrace,18.14,18.07,14.46,14.55,23.87, 3.05,0.56,1.39,4.19,0.67,0.36,0.04,0.32
Turk_Bulgaria_Northeast,19.86,21.44,13.88,13.29,20 .28,2.65,2.04,2.72,1.99,0.86,0.3,0.2,0.49
Turk_Bulgaria_Central,20.7,18.66,15.39,15.38,18.54 ,2.72,2.34,1.65,3.26,0.89,0.2,0.17,0.11

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Originally Posted by Kyp

For Dodecadk12b:

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Turkmen_Iran,21.19,9.46,0.54,1.15,5.45,12.76,4.94,0.22,6.77,11.03,26.38,0.12

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Please delete the old Turkmen_Iran

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Originally Posted by Leto

@Lucas, I've renamed the Russians, it's better when they start with the word Russian. Erzya_Mordovian instead of Erzya is more understandable. At least people can google Mordovia and see it on the map.

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Russian_Kargopol,24.92,48.36,7.52,5.54,1.50,0.04,2.49,0.23,6.67,1.70,0.23,0.53,0.26
Russian_Kostroma,26.19,48.54,6.21,5.35,3.19,0.39,1.05,0.69,6.37,1.16,0.52,0.19,0.16
Russian_Pinega,24.72,51.94,5.05,2.82,0.39,0.58,1.58,0.24,9.96,1.96,0.27,0.31,0.23
Russian_Smolensk,28.16,48.47,8.74,5.82,3.83,1.69,1.38,0.17,0.85,0.43,0.38,0.06,0.01
Russian_Southwest,25.91,47.21,8.25,6.80,6.26,0.55,1.00,0.22,2.14,0.81,0.43,0.19,0.23
Erzya_Mordovian,21.08,50.52,6.40,7.60,2.62,0.32,1.78,0.49,7.11,1.50,0.00,0.25,0.33

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Originally Posted by Leto

These are the overlooked posts

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Also:

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Crimean_Tatar_Coast,11.12,2.19,1.19,0.75,18.48,19.73,0.46,0.15,9.05,1.99,34.87,0.01

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The Balkan Turks Dunai edited are already removed and replaced with new averages.

Turk_Anatolia,7.8,6.7,11.49,28.23,26.85,4.32,3.32, 3.21,6.46,0.63,0.45,0.3,0.23
Turk_Turkey_average,6.02,5.27,11.79,32.45,28.56,4. 17,3.28,2.55,4.58,0.43,0.44,0.26,0.14
Turkish_mixed,7.12,4.32,12.01,30.83,28.97,5.46,4.0 5,2.41,3.63,0.28,0.56,0.34,0.01

Two of these should go. Which ones?

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Originally Posted by Leto

These are the overlooked posts

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done

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Originally Posted by Lucas

done

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I've made a solid Russian average for K13! It's based on 35 kits with more or less known genealogy, cherrypicked on the basis of their origin, not because they score a high or low amount of X,Y,Z. I also took into account the size of the population in each region - e.g. I used more people from Central Russia and the Volga region than from Northern or Southern Russia. Siberia and the Far East weren't used as they are too mixed and would probably be somewhere between this one and Kargopol/Kostroma (ranging between full Ukrainians and Uralics).

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Russian_average,26.03,47.50,8.65,5.49,2.99,0.68,1.32,0.45,4.75,1.23,0.46,0.15,0.31

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Original spreadsheet
Distance: 1.3123% / 1.31234155
Target: Russian_average | ADC: 1x RC
55.9 Kargopol_Russian
22.2 Southwest_Russian
21.9 Russian_Smolensk

Looks just fine to me :thumb001:

Please delete "Russian", it's just an average of Smolensk, SW Russian and Kargopol made by Dunai.

Nice Leto! :thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by Leto

I've made a solid Russian average for K13! It's based on 35 kits with more or less known genealogy, cherrypicked on the basis of their origin, not because they score a high or low amount of X,Y,Z. I also took into account the size of the population in each region - e.g. I used more people from Central Russia and the Volga region than from Northern or Southern Russia. Siberia and the Far East weren't used as they are too mixed and would probably be somewhere between this one and Kargopol/Kostroma (ranging between full Ukrainians and Uralics).

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Russian_average,26.03,47.50,8.65,5.49,2.99,0.68,1.32,0.45,4.75,1.23,0.46,0.15,0.31

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Original spreadsheet
Distance: 1.3123% / 1.31234155
Target: Russian_average | ADC: 1x RC
55.9 Kargopol_Russian
22.2 Southwest_Russian
21.9 Russian_Smolensk

Looks just fine to me :thumb001:

Please delete "Russian", it's just an average of Smolensk, SW Russian and Kargopol made by Dunai.

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You deserved it:)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...on_obverse.jpg

Some minor aesthetic polishing (renaming, rounding)

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Italian_Abruzzo,20.82,8.67,21.33,13.7,29.21,4.61,0.18,0.28,0.28,0.22,0.33,0.33,0.04
Italian_Aosta_Valley,39.39,15.81,22.37,7.56,12.42,1.2,0.46,0.01,0,0.01,0.12,0.44,0.21
Italian_Apulia,19.01,8.44,22.08,14.71,29.49,4.61,0.12,0.02,0.1,0.4,0.55,0.37,0.1
Italian_Basilicata,20.54,8.01,20.72,14.55,28.73,5.5,0.37,0.08,0.09,0.03,0.46,0.59,0.33
Italian_Calabria,15.99,5.68,21.38,15.48,33.13,6.25,0.3,0.46,0,0.06,0.3,0.64,0.33
Italian_Campania,18.53,7.21,21.05,15.4,30.94,4.84,0.63,0.33,0.1,0.14,0.12,0.52,0.19
Italian_Emilia,29.66,11.98,24.47,8.33,21.32,2.94,0.27,0.23,0,0.3,0.3,0.16,0.04
Italian_Friuli_VG,32.26,16.88,20.62,7.19,18.53,2.99,0.31,0.3,0.05,0.8,0.02,0.04,0.01
Italian_Lazio,25.25,9.35,24.03,11.35,25.14,3.6,0.33,0.2,0.12,0.25,0.18,0.14,0.06
Italian_Liguria,30.65,11.88,24.59,7.61,21.06,2.75,0.38,0.33,0.07,0.28,0.28,0.08,0.04
Italian_Lombardy,32.35,12.62,26.19,5.59,20.25,2.1,0.32,0.13,0.06,0.02,0.16,0.1,0.11
Italian_Marche,25.48,9.49,23.15,11.52,25.53,3.8,0.14,0.14,0.12,0.15,0.12,0.18,0.18
Italian_Molise,20.11,8.57,21.61,14.07,29.62,4.58,0.02,0.47,0,0.38,0.25,0.16,0.16
Italian_Piedmont,32.91,14.19,24.66,6.01,17.91,2.93,0.08,0.1,0.18,0.34,0.46,0.02,0.21
Italian_Romagna,26.31,11.19,23.14,10.18,24.32,3.81,0.08,0.35,0.07,0.27,0.14,0.14,0
Italian_Trentino,33.67,17.74,23.27,5.53,17.18,1.61,0,0.16,0.12,0.22,0.31,0.16,0.03
Italian_Tuscan,27.72,10.94,24.25,8.89,23.27,3.79,0.22,0.14,0.15,0.08,0.38,0.14,0.05
Italian_Umbria,26.21,9.45,23.31,11.11,24.58,3.76,0.28,0.17,0,0.16,0.84,0.13,0
Italian_Veneto,32.25,15.08,23.66,7.48,18.38,1.65,0.25,0.4,0.24,0.27,0.3,0,0.04

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Macedonian_North,22.45,22.17,19.47,10.81,21.36,2.23,0.35,0.46,0.35,0.22,0.42,0.01,0.07
Macedonian_South,21.94,21.01,20,11.07,21.45,2.57,0.25,0.43,0.50,0.31,0.38,0.11,0.05
Macedonian_average,22.14,21.76,19.68,10.90,21.19,2.43,0.22,0.39,0.48,0.28,0.40,0.05,0.07

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Originally Posted by Leto

I've made a solid Russian average for K13! It's based on 35 kits with more or less known genealogy, cherrypicked on the basis of their origin, not because they score a high or low amount of X,Y,Z. I also took into account the size of the population in each region - e.g. I used more people from Central Russia and the Volga region than from Northern or Southern Russia. Siberia and the Far East weren't used as they are too mixed and would probably be somewhere between this one and Kargopol/Kostroma (ranging between full Ukrainians and Uralics).

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Russian_average,26.03,47.50,8.65,5.49,2.99,0.68,1.32,0.45,4.75,1.23,0.46,0.15,0.31

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Original spreadsheet
Distance: 1.3123% / 1.31234155
Target: Russian_average | ADC: 1x RC
55.9 Kargopol_Russian
22.2 Southwest_Russian
21.9 Russian_Smolensk

Looks just fine to me :thumb001:

Please delete "Russian", it's just an average of Smolensk, SW Russian and Kargopol made by Dunai.

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Could you share Gedmatch results of Siberian Russians from far East?

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Originally Posted by Abriekman

Could you share Gedmatch results of Siberian Russians from far East?

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First of all, there aren't many of them on Gedmatch, the Far Eastern Federal District contains only 5% of the Russian population. Secondly they are hardly a distinct group. Some would be in the Ukrainian or Southern Russian range, others would be more Northern. Places like Buryatia and Yakutia are excepted to have a large percentage of mixed, heavily Asian people, I've come across a few such cases (needless to say many people from there look blatantly mixed-race).
Believe me, you won't score that, so you don't need them :) :p

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Originally Posted by Leto

First of all, there aren't many of them on Gedmatch, the Far Eastern Federal District contains only 5% of the Russian population. Secondly they are hardly a distinct group. Some would be in the Ukrainian or Southern Russian range, others would be more Northern. Places like Buryatia and Yakutia are excepted to have a large percentage of mixed, heavily Asian people, I've come across a few such cases (needless to say many people from there look blatantly mixed-race).
Believe me, you won't score that, so you don't need them :) :p

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Did I ever say I have Buryat or Yakut ancestor? I want to model myself with simple Siberia Russian average, not Turkic or Mongol

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Originally Posted by Abriekman

Did I ever say I have Buryat or Yakut ancestor? I want to model myself with simple Siberia Russian average, not Turkic or Mongol

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You can model yourself with what I did plus the other ones. You are only quarter Russian anyway and that quarter is regionally mixed.

Afrikaner K15 from the same 25 kits

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Afrikaner,31.66,25.30,10.90,8.07,10.15,3.92,3.26,0.64,2.17,0.73,0.25,0.33,0.41,0.48,1.66

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Distance to: Afrikaner
3.34136200 Dutch_South
4.29356495 Belgium
4.84196241 FRA_Belgica
5.01660244 FRA_Armorica
5.54161529 English_Southeast
5.80641025 German_Bavarian
5.84835874 West_German
5.95108393 Dutch
6.13503056 English_Midlands
6.25483013 English
6.33686042 North_German
6.34515563 Pennsylvania_Dutch
6.37168737 FRA_Alsace
6.40513856 Dutch_Central
6.60999244 English_Southwest
6.86455388 English_North
6.93649768 Swiss_German
7.09495595 Welsh
8.27849624 Scottish
8.31519092 Irish_Leinster
8.70182165 Irish
8.71068884 Irish_Munster
8.93790244 Dutch_North
8.96161258 Irish_Ulster
9.09718638 West_Scottish

Distance: 0.8054% / 0.80542011
Target: Afrikaner | ADC: 0.25x RC
40.9 Dutch_South
22.9 North_German
22.3 FRA_Belgica
10.3 FRA_Armorica
2.1 Austroasiatic_Ho
1.5 Bantu_S.W.

Distance: 0.8843% / 0.88431533
Target: Afrikaner | ADC: 0.5x RC
47.9 Dutch_South
24.7 North_German
24.0 FRA_Belgica
2.1 Austroasiatic_Ho
1.3 Mandenka

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Originally Posted by Leto

Some minor aesthetic polishing (renaming, rounding)

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Italian_Abruzzo,20.82,8.67,21.33,13.7,29.21,4.61,0.18,0.28,0.28,0.22,0.33,0.33,0.04
Italian_Aosta_Valley,39.39,15.81,22.37,7.56,12.42,1.2,0.46,0.01,0,0.01,0.12,0.44,0.21
Italian_Apulia,19.01,8.44,22.08,14.71,29.49,4.61,0.12,0.02,0.1,0.4,0.55,0.37,0.1
Italian_Basilicata,20.54,8.01,20.72,14.55,28.73,5.5,0.37,0.08,0.09,0.03,0.46,0.59,0.33
Italian_Calabria,15.99,5.68,21.38,15.48,33.13,6.25,0.3,0.46,0,0.06,0.3,0.64,0.33
Italian_Campania,18.53,7.21,21.05,15.4,30.94,4.84,0.63,0.33,0.1,0.14,0.12,0.52,0.19
Italian_Emilia,29.66,11.98,24.47,8.33,21.32,2.94,0.27,0.23,0,0.3,0.3,0.16,0.04
Italian_Friuli_VG,32.26,16.88,20.62,7.19,18.53,2.99,0.31,0.3,0.05,0.8,0.02,0.04,0.01
Italian_Lazio,25.25,9.35,24.03,11.35,25.14,3.6,0.33,0.2,0.12,0.25,0.18,0.14,0.06
Italian_Liguria,30.65,11.88,24.59,7.61,21.06,2.75,0.38,0.33,0.07,0.28,0.28,0.08,0.04
Italian_Lombardy,32.35,12.62,26.19,5.59,20.25,2.1,0.32,0.13,0.06,0.02,0.16,0.1,0.11
Italian_Marche,25.48,9.49,23.15,11.52,25.53,3.8,0.14,0.14,0.12,0.15,0.12,0.18,0.18
Italian_Molise,20.11,8.57,21.61,14.07,29.62,4.58,0.02,0.47,0,0.38,0.25,0.16,0.16
Italian_Piedmont,32.91,14.19,24.66,6.01,17.91,2.93,0.08,0.1,0.18,0.34,0.46,0.02,0.21
Italian_Romagna,26.31,11.19,23.14,10.18,24.32,3.81,0.08,0.35,0.07,0.27,0.14,0.14,0
Italian_Trentino,33.67,17.74,23.27,5.53,17.18,1.61,0,0.16,0.12,0.22,0.31,0.16,0.03
Italian_Tuscan,27.72,10.94,24.25,8.89,23.27,3.79,0.22,0.14,0.15,0.08,0.38,0.14,0.05
Italian_Umbria,26.21,9.45,23.31,11.11,24.58,3.76,0.28,0.17,0,0.16,0.84,0.13,0
Italian_Veneto,32.25,15.08,23.66,7.48,18.38,1.65,0.25,0.4,0.24,0.27,0.3,0,0.04

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Macedonian_North,22.45,22.17,19.47,10.81,21.36,2.23,0.35,0.46,0.35,0.22,0.42,0.01,0.07
Macedonian_South,21.94,21.01,20,11.07,21.45,2.57,0.25,0.43,0.50,0.31,0.38,0.11,0.05
Macedonian_average,22.14,21.76,19.68,10.90,21.19,2.43,0.22,0.39,0.48,0.28,0.40,0.05,0.07

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Should add Sicily and Sardinia to the Italian group:

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Italian_Sardinia,23.14,1.64,49.58,0.38,22.02,2.41,0,0.13,0.03,0,0.31,0.26,0.1
Italian_Sicily,18.24,7.44,21.81,13.91,29.59,5.61,0.59,0.33,0.21,0.14,0.42,0.95,0.77

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Originally Posted by Creoda

Distance: 0.8054% / 0.80542011
Target: Afrikaner | ADC: 0.25x RC
40.9 Dutch_South
22.9 North_German
22.3 FRA_Belgica
10.3 FRA_Armorica
2.1 Austroasiatic_Ho
1.5 Bantu_S.W.

Distance: 0.8843% / 0.88431533
Target: Afrikaner | ADC: 0.5x RC
47.9 Dutch_South
24.7 North_German
24.0 FRA_Belgica
2.1 Austroasiatic_Ho
1.3 Mandenka

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Since they're from Africa, them hoes kinda make sense if you know what I mean ;)

For Dodecad K12b

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Tatar_Mishar,6.38,8.97,0.13,0.91,16.34,46.4,1.35,0.01,1.56,4.92,13,0.04

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Originally Posted by Amon

For Dodecad K12b

Code:

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Tatar_Mishar,6.38,8.97,0.13,0.91,16.34,46.4,1.35,0.01,1.56,4.92,13,0.04

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The sample size is probably too low, I don't like fishy and not very useful pops. Lipka was added, although it's probably equally questionable. No offense, not everything should be added, only valuable and solid things.

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Originally Posted by Leto

The sample size is probably too low, I don't like fishy and not very useful pops. Lipka was added, although it's probably equally questionable. No offense, not everything should be added, only valuable and solid things.

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N=20

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Originally Posted by Amon

N=20

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Lipka or Mishar? The Lipka are a community of just a few thousand...

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Originally Posted by Leto

Lipka or Mishar? The Lipka are a community of just a few thousand...

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For Lipkas the same size was 10; for Mishars sample size = 20.

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Originally Posted by Amon

For Lipkas the same size was 10; for Mishars sample size = 20.

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That's nice sample size for such obscure community, should be added for sure.

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Originally Posted by Amon

For Lipkas the same size was 10; for Mishars sample size = 20.

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Originally Posted by Stearsolina

That's nice sample size for such obscure community, should be added for sure.

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Only if they are all full members of the ethnic group.

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Originally Posted by Leto

You can model yourself with what I did plus the other ones. You are only quarter Russian anyway and that quarter is regionally mixed.

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Thats why I wanted to model myself with Siberian Russian samples, I can model myself in really different ways, now question what is more realible, on G25 I can model myself as 1/8 Kostroma Russian, but then is it possible for my Siberian Russian ancestry to be fully Northern Russian?

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Originally Posted by Abriekman

Thats why I wanted to model myself with Siberian Russian samples, I can model myself in really different ways, now question what is more realible, on G25 I can model myself as 1/8 Kostroma Russian, but then is it possible for my Siberian Russian ancestry to be fully Northern Russian?

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Yes, it is possible but in such an amount it's virtually impossible to determine whether that's true. I have the same amount of Polish from Belarus and it's completely diluted.
Russian_Kostroma now exists in K13 Vahaduo.

A kit from Rivne oblast (+ some ancestry from Lublin voivodeship) - EY9911197

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Originally Posted by Leto

Yes, it is possible but in such an amount it's virtually impossible to determine whether that's true. I have the same amount of Polish from Belarus and it's completely diluted.
Russian_Kostroma now exists in K13 Vahaduo.

A kit from Rivne oblast (+ some ancestry from Lublin voivodeship) - EY9911197

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Does this kit have Ashkenazi ancestry? 90% Belorussian + 10% Levantine oracles

Edit: from his first matches I found already 3 Ashkenazi matching this kit

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Originally Posted by Abriekman

Does this kit have Ashkenazi ancestry? 90% Belorussian + 10% Levantine oracles

Edit: from his first matches I found already 3 Ashkenazi matching this kit

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Yes, minor Jewish is possible (1/8 or less) but otherwise he is Balto-Slavic as a mofo.

Middle Eastern update for Dodecad K12b. "Jordanians", "Syrian A, B, C" as well as the two Lebanese pops are to be replaced

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Iraqi_Arab,16.56,0.45,2.95,0.27,8.15,3,3.31,3.67,25.43,0.78,33.56,1.82
Jordanian_Christian,8.53,0.12,4.85,0.17,15.1,1.09,0.16,1.73,25.8,0.17,42.28,0
Jordanian_Muslim,10.35,0.16,5.57,0.26,12.6,1.84,1.1,5.09,25.03,0.41,35.63,1.99
Lebanese_Christian,11.27,0.10,3.78,0.09,15.50,1.66,0.21,0.84,22.71,0.11,43.72,0.02
Lebanese_Muslim,12.80,0.40,4.36,0.39,13.11,3.06,1.30,3.46,20.70,0.36,38.62,1.45
Syrian_Muslim,13.25,0.44,3.56,0.55,11.1,2.94,1.57,3.71,23.82,0.57,36.68,1.81

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Also "Syrian_SW_Christian" (weird word order) should be renamed to "Syrian_Christian".

For Eurogenes K15:

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Azerbaijani_Iran,3.61,2.35,2.26,6.40,4.39,32.91,28.60,4.52,8.17,2.27,2.95,0.69,0.16,0.32,0.34

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