Samnium's Eurogenes results (FAKE)

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Originally Posted by Samnium

Your calculator give strong fits, overall. It's very interesting, I will use it

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But, do you already make any test?

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Originally Posted by gixajo

But, do you already make any test?

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No

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Originally Posted by gixajo

It was a joke to make reference to the recurrent topic that always blame about any European population considered "dark".:thumb001:

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Gedmatch calculators throw a lot of SSA at some Iberians, I have a 3.20 and 3.11 in K15 and K13 respectively.

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Originally Posted by Token

Haute-Savoie is Provençal-like, like Aosta Valley. These studies with modern samples have a fame of not being accurate.

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Are you sure ? I will try to find new results about that area because I haven’t seen many of them. And what about Swiss French ?

There were a thread on Anthrogenica with many french results, some of rhem were partially from Haute-Savoie and they weren’t Provencal-shifted at all.

If anything I would expect Haute-Savoie to be somewhere between Swiss German and Val d’Aosta.

Savoie would be more Provencal-like, Haute-Savoie, don’t think so from what I’ve seen.

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Originally Posted by Defcon2

Gedmatch calculators throw a lot of SSA at some Iberians, I have a 3.20 and 3.11 in K15 and K13 respectively.

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I have not SSA in k15 or k13.

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Originally Posted by Samnium

Are you sure ? I will try to find new results about that area because I haven’t seen many of them. And what about Swiss French ?

There were a thread on Anthrogenica with many french results, some of rhem were partially from Haute-Savoie and they weren’t Provencal-shifted at all.

If anything I would expect Haute-Savoie to be somewhere between Swiss German and Val d’Aosta.

Savoie would be more Provencal-like, Haute-Savoie, don’t think so from what I’ve seen.

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Haute-Savoie:

1 North_Atlantic 40.93
2 West_Med 20.11
3 Baltic 18.42
4 East_Med 13.76
5 West_Asian 3.25
6 Red_Sea 1.81
7 South_Asian 0.92
8 Oceanian 0.69
9 Siberian 0.12

1 French 3.92
2 Spanish_Cataluna 7.71
3 West_German 8.41
4 Portuguese 8.52
5 South_Dutch 8.6
6 Spanish_Galicia 8.98
7 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 9.07
8 Spanish_Valencia 9.95
9 Spanish_Murcia 10.14
10 Spanish_Extremadura 10.6
11 Spanish_Cantabria 10.95
12 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 11.31
13 Southwest_French 11.44
14 Spanish_Andalucia 12.39
15 North_Italian 12.63
16 Spanish_Aragon 13.03
17 Austrian 13.15
18 Southeast_English 13.31
19 Southwest_English 14.66
20 East_German 15.18

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 51.4% North_Italian + 48.6% Southeast_English @ 2.61
2 54.7% West_German + 45.3% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.03
3 57.5% Spanish_Valencia + 42.5% Austrian @ 3.07
4 92.6% French + 7.4% Ashkenazi @ 3.08
5 64.4% Spanish_Cataluna + 35.6% Austrian @ 3.09
6 56% North_Italian + 44% Orcadian @ 3.12
7 84.1% French + 15.9% North_Italian @ 3.16
8 88.5% French + 11.5% Tuscan @ 3.17
9 90.8% French + 9.2% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.18
10 93.8% French + 6.2% Italian_Jewish @ 3.19
11 50.4% West_German + 49.6% Portuguese @ 3.21
12 94% French + 6% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.21
13 57% Spanish_Murcia + 43% Austrian @ 3.22
14 69.4% Spanish_Cataluna + 30.6% Hungarian @ 3.22
15 91.8% French + 8.2% West_Sicilian @ 3.26
16 90.1% French + 9.9% Bulgarian @ 3.27
17 57.1% North_Italian + 42.9% North_Dutch @ 3.28
18 57.1% North_Italian + 42.9% Danish @ 3.29
19 57.8% Southeast_English + 42.2% Tuscan @ 3.32
20 93.3% French + 6.7% East_Sicilian @ 3.34

Samnium's father is 8-12% East_Med and 0-2% Red_Sea, I would guess.

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Originally Posted by Token

Haute-Savoie:

1 North_Atlantic 40.93
2 West_Med 20.11
3 Baltic 18.42
4 East_Med 13.76
5 West_Asian 3.25
6 Red_Sea 1.81
7 South_Asian 0.92
8 Oceanian 0.69
9 Siberian 0.12

1 French 3.92
2 Spanish_Cataluna 7.71
3 West_German 8.41
4 Portuguese 8.52
5 South_Dutch 8.6
6 Spanish_Galicia 8.98
7 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 9.07
8 Spanish_Valencia 9.95
9 Spanish_Murcia 10.14
10 Spanish_Extremadura 10.6
11 Spanish_Cantabria 10.95
12 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 11.31
13 Southwest_French 11.44
14 Spanish_Andalucia 12.39
15 North_Italian 12.63
16 Spanish_Aragon 13.03
17 Austrian 13.15
18 Southeast_English 13.31
19 Southwest_English 14.66
20 East_German 15.18

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 51.4% North_Italian + 48.6% Southeast_English @ 2.61
2 54.7% West_German + 45.3% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.03
3 57.5% Spanish_Valencia + 42.5% Austrian @ 3.07
4 92.6% French + 7.4% Ashkenazi @ 3.08
5 64.4% Spanish_Cataluna + 35.6% Austrian @ 3.09
6 56% North_Italian + 44% Orcadian @ 3.12
7 84.1% French + 15.9% North_Italian @ 3.16
8 88.5% French + 11.5% Tuscan @ 3.17
9 90.8% French + 9.2% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.18
10 93.8% French + 6.2% Italian_Jewish @ 3.19
11 50.4% West_German + 49.6% Portuguese @ 3.21
12 94% French + 6% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.21
13 57% Spanish_Murcia + 43% Austrian @ 3.22
14 69.4% Spanish_Cataluna + 30.6% Hungarian @ 3.22
15 91.8% French + 8.2% West_Sicilian @ 3.26
16 90.1% French + 9.9% Bulgarian @ 3.27
17 57.1% North_Italian + 42.9% North_Dutch @ 3.28
18 57.1% North_Italian + 42.9% Danish @ 3.29
19 57.8% Southeast_English + 42.2% Tuscan @ 3.32
20 93.3% French + 6.7% East_Sicilian @ 3.34

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I have also results from Haute-Savoie that plot "northern" of "French reference", I will make a whole post with all the results that I have found (I don't have them, I have done a search that has done nothing but I will continue).

+ this sample isn't particuliarly southern shifted.

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Originally Posted by Samnium

I have also results from Haute-Savoie that plot "northern" of "French reference", I will make a whole post with all the results that I have found (I don't have them, I have done a search that has done nothing).

+ this sample isn't particuliarly southern shifted.

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This sample is roughly like Provence, more or less equidistant from Iberians and West Germans. This Provence sample is even more northern than Savoyards. Haute-Savoie is in southeastern France, i don't know why you expect it to be genetically Northern French.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 43.51
2 West_Med 22.08
3 Baltic 20.48
4 West_Asian 7.01
5 East_Med 5.86
6 Siberian 1.06


1 French 6.3
2 South_Dutch 6.43
3 West_German 7.42
4 Southeast_English 10.24
5 Southwest_English 10.46
6 Spanish_Cataluna 11.14
7 Southwest_French 11.42
8 Orcadian 11.99
9 Spanish_Cantabria 12.25
10 Austrian 12.35
11 Spanish_Galicia 12.53
12 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 12.64
13 Irish 12.75
14 North_German 12.88
15 Portuguese 13.08
16 West_Scottish 13.1
17 North_Dutch 13.11
18 Danish 13.46
19 East_German 13.65
20 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 13.81