Samnium's Eurogenes results (FAKE)

[gixajo]

Your calculator give strong fits, overall. It's very interesting, I will use it

But, do you already make any test?

[Samnium]

But, do you already make any test?

No

[Defcon2]

It was a joke to make reference to the recurrent topic that always blame about any European population considered "dark".

Gedmatch calculators throw a lot of SSA at some Iberians, I have a 3.20 and 3.11 in K15 and K13 respectively.

[Samnium]

Haute-Savoie is Provençal-like, like Aosta Valley. These studies with modern samples have a fame of not being accurate.

Are you sure ? I will try to find new results about that area because I haven’t seen many of them. And what about Swiss French ?

There were a thread on Anthrogenica with many french results, some of rhem were partially from Haute-Savoie and they weren’t Provencal-shifted at all.

If anything I would expect Haute-Savoie to be somewhere between Swiss German and Val d’Aosta.

Savoie would be more Provencal-like, Haute-Savoie, don’t think so from what I’ve seen.

[gixajo]

Gedmatch calculators throw a lot of SSA at some Iberians, I have a 3.20 and 3.11 in K15 and K13 respectively.

I have not SSA in k15 or k13.

[Token]

Are you sure ? I will try to find new results about that area because I haven’t seen many of them. And what about Swiss French ?

There were a thread on Anthrogenica with many french results, some of rhem were partially from Haute-Savoie and they weren’t Provencal-shifted at all.

If anything I would expect Haute-Savoie to be somewhere between Swiss German and Val d’Aosta.

Savoie would be more Provencal-like, Haute-Savoie, don’t think so from what I’ve seen.

Haute-Savoie:

1 North_Atlantic 40.93
2 West_Med 20.11
3 Baltic 18.42
4 East_Med 13.76
5 West_Asian 3.25
6 Red_Sea 1.81
7 South_Asian 0.92
8 Oceanian 0.69
9 Siberian 0.12

1 French 3.92
2 Spanish_Cataluna 7.71
3 West_German 8.41
4 Portuguese 8.52
5 South_Dutch 8.6
6 Spanish_Galicia 8.98
7 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 9.07
8 Spanish_Valencia 9.95
9 Spanish_Murcia 10.14
10 Spanish_Extremadura 10.6
11 Spanish_Cantabria 10.95
12 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 11.31
13 Southwest_French 11.44
14 Spanish_Andalucia 12.39
15 North_Italian 12.63
16 Spanish_Aragon 13.03
17 Austrian 13.15
18 Southeast_English 13.31
19 Southwest_English 14.66
20 East_German 15.18

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 51.4% North_Italian + 48.6% Southeast_English @ 2.61
2 54.7% West_German + 45.3% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.03
3 57.5% Spanish_Valencia + 42.5% Austrian @ 3.07
4 92.6% French + 7.4% Ashkenazi @ 3.08
5 64.4% Spanish_Cataluna + 35.6% Austrian @ 3.09
6 56% North_Italian + 44% Orcadian @ 3.12
7 84.1% French + 15.9% North_Italian @ 3.16
8 88.5% French + 11.5% Tuscan @ 3.17
9 90.8% French + 9.2% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.18
10 93.8% French + 6.2% Italian_Jewish @ 3.19
11 50.4% West_German + 49.6% Portuguese @ 3.21
12 94% French + 6% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.21
13 57% Spanish_Murcia + 43% Austrian @ 3.22
14 69.4% Spanish_Cataluna + 30.6% Hungarian @ 3.22
15 91.8% French + 8.2% West_Sicilian @ 3.26
16 90.1% French + 9.9% Bulgarian @ 3.27
17 57.1% North_Italian + 42.9% North_Dutch @ 3.28
18 57.1% North_Italian + 42.9% Danish @ 3.29
19 57.8% Southeast_English + 42.2% Tuscan @ 3.32
20 93.3% French + 6.7% East_Sicilian @ 3.34

[Leto]

Samnium's father is 8-12% East_Med and 0-2% Red_Sea, I would guess.

[Voskos]

[Samnium]

Haute-Savoie:

1 North_Atlantic 40.93
2 West_Med 20.11
3 Baltic 18.42
4 East_Med 13.76
5 West_Asian 3.25
6 Red_Sea 1.81
7 South_Asian 0.92
8 Oceanian 0.69
9 Siberian 0.12

1 French 3.92
2 Spanish_Cataluna 7.71
3 West_German 8.41
4 Portuguese 8.52
5 South_Dutch 8.6
6 Spanish_Galicia 8.98
7 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 9.07
8 Spanish_Valencia 9.95
9 Spanish_Murcia 10.14
10 Spanish_Extremadura 10.6
11 Spanish_Cantabria 10.95
12 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 11.31
13 Southwest_French 11.44
14 Spanish_Andalucia 12.39
15 North_Italian 12.63
16 Spanish_Aragon 13.03
17 Austrian 13.15
18 Southeast_English 13.31
19 Southwest_English 14.66
20 East_German 15.18

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 51.4% North_Italian + 48.6% Southeast_English @ 2.61
2 54.7% West_German + 45.3% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.03
3 57.5% Spanish_Valencia + 42.5% Austrian @ 3.07
4 92.6% French + 7.4% Ashkenazi @ 3.08
5 64.4% Spanish_Cataluna + 35.6% Austrian @ 3.09
6 56% North_Italian + 44% Orcadian @ 3.12
7 84.1% French + 15.9% North_Italian @ 3.16
8 88.5% French + 11.5% Tuscan @ 3.17
9 90.8% French + 9.2% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.18
10 93.8% French + 6.2% Italian_Jewish @ 3.19
11 50.4% West_German + 49.6% Portuguese @ 3.21
12 94% French + 6% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.21
13 57% Spanish_Murcia + 43% Austrian @ 3.22
14 69.4% Spanish_Cataluna + 30.6% Hungarian @ 3.22
15 91.8% French + 8.2% West_Sicilian @ 3.26
16 90.1% French + 9.9% Bulgarian @ 3.27
17 57.1% North_Italian + 42.9% North_Dutch @ 3.28
18 57.1% North_Italian + 42.9% Danish @ 3.29
19 57.8% Southeast_English + 42.2% Tuscan @ 3.32
20 93.3% French + 6.7% East_Sicilian @ 3.34

I have also results from Haute-Savoie that plot "northern" of "French reference", I will make a whole post with all the results that I have found (I don't have them, I have done a search that has done nothing but I will continue).

+ this sample isn't particuliarly southern shifted.

[Token]

I have also results from Haute-Savoie that plot "northern" of "French reference", I will make a whole post with all the results that I have found (I don't have them, I have done a search that has done nothing).

+ this sample isn't particuliarly southern shifted.

This sample is roughly like Provence, more or less equidistant from Iberians and West Germans. This Provence sample is even more northern than Savoyards. Haute-Savoie is in southeastern France, i don't know why you expect it to be genetically Northern French.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 43.51
2 West_Med 22.08
3 Baltic 20.48
4 West_Asian 7.01
5 East_Med 5.86
6 Siberian 1.06


1 French 6.3
2 South_Dutch 6.43
3 West_German 7.42
4 Southeast_English 10.24
5 Southwest_English 10.46
6 Spanish_Cataluna 11.14
7 Southwest_French 11.42
8 Orcadian 11.99
9 Spanish_Cantabria 12.25
10 Austrian 12.35
11 Spanish_Galicia 12.53
12 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 12.64
13 Irish 12.75
14 North_German 12.88
15 Portuguese 13.08
16 West_Scottish 13.1
17 North_Dutch 13.11
18 Danish 13.46
19 East_German 13.65
20 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 13.81