Yes, it can be found in Spain, but it has African origins. On the YFull tree, the only countries besides Spain that the clade is found in are African countries.Quote:
Originally Posted by Celtíbero Itálico
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Yes, it can be found in Spain, but it has African origins. On the YFull tree, the only countries besides Spain that the clade is found in are African countries.Quote:
Originally Posted by Celtíbero Itálico
HUNG-Aryan
I wanted to say hung aryan
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Originally Posted by Mingle
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Originally Posted by Kaspias
Here are my results + those of my brother and my motherQuote:
Originally Posted by Mr.G
Target: M
Distance: 6.4921% / 6.49206073
58.6 Early_Romanian
26.2 Early_Slav_average
11.6 Turkic / Tatar / Kuman
3.6 Early_Germanic
Target: D
Distance: 6.8145% / 6.81445283
65.6 Early_Romanian
22.2 Early_Slav_average
12.2 Turkic / Tatar / Kuman
Target: R
Distance: 7.1710% / 7.17099240
73.4 Early_Romanian
14.8 Early_Slav_average
11.8 Turkic / Tatar / Kuman
And here are four more Bulgarian results, all of my relatives
Target: Z
Distance: 2.8156% / 2.81556262
58.8 Early_Romanian
41.2 Early_Slav_average
Target: St
Distance: 5.5265% / 5.52653240
61.2 Early_Romanian
38.8 Early_Slav_average
Target: Well
Distance: 2.5107% / 2.51069240
70.4 Early_Romanian
19.6 Early_Slav_average
10.0 Turkic / Tatar / Kuman
Target: Ros
Distance: 4.6532% / 4.65320426
69.0 Early_Romanian
25.6 Early_Slav_average
3.8 Turkic / Tatar / Kuman
1.6 Early_Germanic
It seems that my ancestors didn't like to squat. :D
I have more Germanic than average Romanians.
Target: Impaler
Distance: 7.9857% / 7.98573999
67.4 Early_Romanian/Balkanite
13.6 Turkic/Tatar/Cuman
11.2 Early_Germanic
7.8 Early_Slav_average
Target: Romanian
Distance: 2.0797% / 2.07971317
57.2 Early_Romanian/Balkanite
35.8 Early_Slav_average
4.2 Early_Germanic
2.8 Turkic/Tatar/Cuman
Target: Romanian_Wallachia_average
Distance: 2.1878% / 2.18776300
59.2 Early_Romanian/Balkanite
38.0 Early_Slav_average
2.8 Turkic/Tatar/Cuman
Target: mh
Distance: 2.5599% / 2.55987182
37.4 Early_Slav_average
37.4 Early_Romanian/Balkanite
25.2 Early_Germanic
without my Dutch i would score the same like Chris i think and for MrG the same so its not that strange for a Hungarian that he scores no Germanic.
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Originally Posted by PAGANE
Target: Kaspias
Distance: 8.1574% / 8.15738557
65.0 Early_Romanian/Balkanite
29.8 Turkic/Tatar/Cuman
5.2 Early_Slav_average
Target: Kaspias_Cousin
Distance: 4.8362% / 4.83621708
75.6 Early_Romanian/Balkanite
24.4 Turkic/Tatar/Cuman
E-v13 is from the Levant Natufian farmerQuote:
Originally Posted by Mingle
E-v13 heritage
Distance to: Rabbit_Hole_Mom
5.49935451 R76_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
5.80156875 R1550_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
7.38050811 R1547_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
7.38497800 R70_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
7.51410008 R42_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
8.47437903 R68_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
8.92108177 MA2210_Anatolia_EBA.SG_4700_ybp
9.50399390 R38_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
9.79117460 R130_Lazio_Rome_Italy_Late_Antiquity
9.79392669 65_Lebanon_Canaanite_MBA.SG_3650_ybp
9.86527749 R126_Lazio_Frosinone_Roman_Imperial
10.39173229 MA2213_Anatolia_EBA.SG_4700_ybp
10.91233247 Canaanite_ERS1790730_
10.95389885 Sidon_BA_ERS1790730_
11.13199892 54_Lebanon_Canaanite_MBA.SG_3770_ybp
11.17489597 R41_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
11.42348896 R75_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
11.77810681 R67_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
12.14235150 R73_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
12.27475865 R71_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
12.30186571 MA2205_Anatolia_MLBA.SG_3800_ybp
12.78321165 R115_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
12.90252301 I2683_Anatolia_EBA_4494_ybp
13.06936494 R66_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
13.38554444 R123_Lazio_Frosinone_Roman_Imperial
Target: Rabbit_Hole_Mom
Distance: 1.1993% / 1.19925081 | ADC: 0.25x
34.2 R68_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
26.8 R76_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
14.0 Sidon_BA_ERS1790729_
13.0 R1550_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
5.4 R1543_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
3.6 R42_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial
1.6 Khoesan _Hunter_South_Africa_2100BP.SG_2103_ybp
1.4 I3726_Tanzania_Luxmanda_3100BP_3079_ybp
Probably from the Crusaders ( ancient Romans )
https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplo...1b_Y-DNA.shtml
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Originally Posted by Dušan
https://i.ibb.co/CnhwnXp/pca.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by knez01
So basically I'm mostly slavic, I guess? No wonder why my father looks so Russian.
Like you wouldn't believe I'm his son.
Significantly so, yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris596
Target: Chris596
Distance: 4.6331% / 4.63313980
52.8 Early_Slav_average
47.2 Early_Romanian/Balkanite
Mr.G
25.2% Early_Slav + 19.0% Early Romanian/Balkanite + 5.8% Early_Germanic = Total of 50%
Now lets extrapolate to 100% to view my Hungarian side:
50.4 Early_Slav
38.0 Early Romanian/Balkanite
11.6 Early_Germanic
Pretty much the same amount of Early_Slav as you.
Your components listed like this, before you click the oracle button:Quote:
Originally Posted by IrisSelene
Population
North_Atlantic 75.84 Pct
Baltic 10.88 Pct
West_Med 10.08 Pct
West_Asian 1.64 Pct
East_Med 1.70 Pct
Red_Sea .05 Pct
South_Asian 0.59 Pct
East_Asian 0.45 Pct
Siberian 0.56 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 1.20 Pct
Sub-Saharan -
Then list them like this:
IrisSelene,75.84,10.88,10.08,1.64,.. etc
Distance to: DušanQuote:
Originally Posted by Dušan
3.15678634 Bosnian
3.27615628 R.Moldova_Centre+North
3.65243754 Croat
3.80314344 Serb
7.12872359 Montenegrin
8.66609485 Hungarians
9.26105286 Macedonian
9.68489546 Romanians
10.12723062 Pomak
11.82079524 Bulgarian
Target: Dušan
Distance: 2.0298% / 2.02976147 | ADC: 0.5x
55.4 Croat
23.0 R.Moldova_Centre+North
11.0 Serb
10.6 Bulgarians
Target: Dušan
Distance: 1.4956% / 1.49562913 | ADC: 0.25x
78.6 Croat
20.4 Bulgarians
0.6 Rus_Tver
0.4 Nganassan
Thanks!Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaspias
Add more results into Serbian average.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
And add more kaykavian Croats into Croatian average. It is way southern currently.
I plot relatively close to you and TheMaestro, Knez01 and Kökény as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dušan
You are South Slav by autosomal genetics. :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris596
I should probably mention, for those who didn't read the calculator thread, that Early_Romanian are Vlachs from Greece/N. Macedonia where I subtracted the Slavic part from them. Romanians won't score anywhere close to 100% Early_Romanian.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.G
Target: Romanian_North_Moldova_Bukovina
Distance: 2.0065% / 2.00650114
58.4 Early_Slav_average
37.4 Early_Romanian/Balkanite
4.2 Turkic/Tatar/Cuman
Target: Romanian_South_Central_Moldova
Distance: 1.6786% / 1.67862475
50.0 Early_Romanian/Balkanite
44.8 Early_Slav_average
5.2 Turkic/Tatar/Cuman
Target: Romanian_Transylvania
Distance: 2.9652% / 2.96522293
53.2 Early_Romanian/Balkanite
41.0 Early_Slav_average
4.2 Early_Germanic
1.6 Turkic/Tatar/Cuman
Target: Romanian_Oltenia
Distance: 2.0797% / 2.07971317
57.2 Early_Romanian/Balkanite
35.8 Early_Slav_average
4.2 Early_Germanic
2.8 Turkic/Tatar/Cuman
Target: Romanian_Muntenia
Distance: 4.9951% / 4.99512905
62.0 Early_Romanian/Balkanite
37.6 Early_Slav_average
0.4 Turkic/Tatar/Cuman
Nah, I won't add anything. It's okay. The Croatian and Bosnian averages are from an old Turkish spreadsheet and the Serbian and Montenegrin were provided by vbnetkhio.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dušan
Bosnian ok, but no way I am closer to Croatian than to Serbian average.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
You know user ph2ter? His result is way more northern than that Croatian average, and he represents 35-40% of Croatian population.
I am sorry for off topic. :icon_ask:
He is more Northern than most Croats and suspects having Czech ancestry. I doubt 40% of Croats are mixed with Czechs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dušan
He tested his wife and lot other people. All of them got simmilar results.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
Their results are average for NW Croats.
Is it worth to pay another 19 $ on FTDNA to see another ancestry report?
NoQuote:
Originally Posted by Chris596
So you agree that Croats are more North European than Serbs which can be translated as less swarthy? :swlQuote:
Originally Posted by Dušan
I haven't been following on this story, but I remember that this was the hypothesis some time ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dušan
And more prone to skin cancer :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
LolQuote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
I did it, although I can't remember if I paid or it was a free upload, at the time. Here is my result, it's okay if you read the Middle East % as Southeast Europe:Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris596
https://i.imgur.com/C2qG7U8.png
The good news is that, just like MyHeritage, they have an update in the works..
[QUOTE = Chris596; 6673575] Струва ли си да платите още 19 $ за FTDNA, за да видите още един доклад за потекло? [/ QUOTE]
No, it's only worth the DNA of the relatives
Then the Blacks are the superior race.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
It is well known fact that they are more northern than us, I dont have problem with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
The problem is when I get Croat before Serbian, and ph2ter, as 100% ethnic Croat, dont get his nation as #1, because Croatian average is south shifted. And that is silly.
Okay, I'll ask Vbnet to provide a new Croatian average.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dušan
Nah, that one is outdated. You will just get a mix of Southeast and East Euro.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris596
They are from a physical point of view.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
It's hard to get the average as the first choice for everyone, in countries where there is a strong genetic gradient, like in Moldova, Croatia, Romania, Hungary, etc. If the average will be modelled after him, then some other Croats won't get it. To counter this downside, it is probably better to just use individual samples, instead of averages. Then everyone, except for a few significant outliers, will pull to their ethnicity.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dušan
Another question: How is it possible that a lot of Serbians, Albanians, Bulgarians usually get around 45-60% Balkan on MyHeritage? I only know one Bosnian YouTuber who got more than me (100%) lol.
Other users will have a better, more complete answer than me. But I will speculate that they get a chunk of more southern ancestry, that you don't get. I think the catagory is Greek and South Italian.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris596
Albanians get very little Balkan, MyHeritage labels them as Greek & South Italian instead. As for Serbs, most of us will score 70-100%, but I've enountered individuals for whom the algorithm went sideways and instead of lumping their ancestry into Balkan, they divided it evenly into Greek, Balkan and East European.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris596
because MyHeritage's algorithm sucks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris596