Dodecad k12b West & Central Asian results Vol 4.

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Originally Posted by Sora

Afro-Turk(most probably half. Because s/he shared his/her Afro-Turk mom's 23andme results and she was only 8% SSA)

https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/com...rkish_results/

Gedrosia: 13.09
Siberian: 6.18
NW_African: 1.1
SE_Asian: 0
Atlantic_Med: 10.63
North_European: 14.94
South_Asian: 0.69
East_African: 2.72
SW_Asian: 8.04
East_Asian: 3.99
Caucasus: 37.25
Sub_Saharan: 1.17

Distance to: AfroTurkSonOrDaughter
6.03975165 Turk_West_BlackSea
6.17002431 Turk_Southwest
6.49219531 Turk_Northwest
7.09585090 Turk_South
7.24940687 Turk_Central_West
7.64612974 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
8.76163227 Turk_Central_East
9.87146899 Kabardin
10.41000961 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
10.74052606 Turk_Southeast
10.86660481 Abazin
11.75243804 Azerbaijani_Turkey
11.77509236 Azerbaijani
11.84343700 Kumyk
11.89455338 Circassian
12.62187783 Balkar
12.66870554 Karachay
12.67409168 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
13.33890175 Azerbaijani_Iran
13.87759345 Adyghe
14.30143000 Turk_East
14.52569448 Ingush
14.76783329 Ossetian
15.27998037 Nogai
15.64989457 Chechen

Target: AfroTurkSonOrDaughter
Distance: 1.1354% / 1.13536619 | ADC: 0.25x RC
38.2 Circassian
30.9 Turk_West_BlackSea
23.4 Turk_Northwest
3.8 Ethiopian
2.0 Dolgan
1.7 Sandawe_He

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4% African doesn't make him an "Afro-Turk", that's ludicrous. In the Middle East probably most Arabs have as much and sometimes more than that. Some Iranians do too.

Some kits, I'll prolly add the oracles later on. You are welcome to do it too :)

Some Iranian, I guess Eastern

Gedrosia 30.53 Pct
Siberian 1.19 Pct
Northwest_African 0.65 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 3.34 Pct
North_European 9.49 Pct
South_Asian 5.2 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 11.18 Pct
East_Asian 3.57 Pct
Caucasus 33.38 Pct
Sub_Saharan 1.47 Pct

This might be a Talysh or a Talysh/Azeri mix. He has a Persian-style -zade surname

Gedrosia 25.5 Pct
Siberian 1.49 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 9.57 Pct
North_European 7.14 Pct
South_Asian 4.38 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 14.75 Pct
East_Asian 1.51 Pct
Caucasus 35.67 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

May be a Zaza Kurd

Gedrosia 25.43 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 7.18 Pct
North_European 4.61 Pct
South_Asian 3.56 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 14.21 Pct
East_Asian 1.48 Pct
Caucasus 43.53 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Some type of Kurd

Gedrosia 23.84 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 0.85 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 10.38 Pct
North_European 9.16 Pct
South_Asian 3.18 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 14.68 Pct
East_Asian 0.65 Pct
Caucasus 37.25 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

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Originally Posted by Leto

Some kits, I'll prolly add the oracles later on. You are welcome to do it too :)

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I know some Zazas can be modeled as half Zaza/half Armenian but sometimes there are samples which are very interesting. Third one is a bit Transcaucasian shifted but still has a lot of Gedrosia/South Asia which is an indication for Iranic shift. But this person has very low European. I mean I never saw a Zaza more than 40% Caucasian.

Iranian from Alborz:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...rz-SVG.svg.png

Gedrosia: 24.09
Siberian: 1.91
NW_African: 1.40
SE_Asian: 0.49
Atlantic_Med: 5.29
North_European: 8.27
South Asian: 5.94
East_African: 0.00
SW_Asian: 13.37
East_Asian: 0.53
Caucasus: 38.72
SSA: 0.00

Distance to: Iran_alborz
4.24083718 Iran_Central
4.68202947 Kurd_Sorani
5.01151674 Talysh_Azerbaijan
5.09020628 Kurd_Kurmanji
5.36367411 Yazidi_Kurd
5.38774535 Kurd_Feyli
5.58673429 Azerbaijani_Iran
5.70910676 Turkmen_Iraq
5.90583610 Iranian_Fars
6.24081725 Iranian_Lur
7.00310645 Azerbaijani
7.67974609 Azerbaijani_Turkey
8.52555570 Iranian_Kerman
9.01809847 Iranian_Khorasan
9.26001620 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
9.64507128 Turk_Southeast
10.29066081 Iranian_Mazandaran
10.51069931 Udi_Azerbaijan
11.27420951 Iraqi_Baghdad
11.83601284 Turk_East
12.66977900 Turk_Central_East
13.12563141 Turk_South
13.88644303 Arab_Iran
13.91059668 Mandean
14.23446522 Turk_Central_Black_Sea

Target: Iran_alborz
Distance: 1.0840% / 1.08404306 | ADC: 0.25x RC
46.1 Kurd_Feyli
33.6 Turkmen_Iraq
16.9 Chechen
3.4 Nihali

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Originally Posted by Gecko

I know some Zazas can be modeled as half Zaza/half Armenian but sometimes there are samples which are very interesting. Third one is a bit Transcaucasian shifted but still has a lot of Gedrosia/South Asia which is an indication for Iranic shift. But this person has very low European. I mean I never saw a Zaza more than 40% Caucasian.

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Zaza average (deleted because of some idiots). N=17

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Zaza,23.89,0.95,0.65,0.24,8.58,7.08,2.11,0.18,13.63,0.68,41.98,0.02

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Basically 42% Caucasus.

First time i am seeing this result i found this result from an another gedmatch spreadsheet as a 8th Şereflikoçhisar result i thought there are only 7 result from my hometown

8th result from my hometown:

Gedrosia: 17.29
Siberian: 6.01
NW_African: 0.68
SE_Asian: 0.86
Atlantic_Med: 11.65
North_European: 8.28
South Asian: 0.62
East_African: 0.00
SW_Asian: 11.72
East_Asian: 3.92
Caucasus: 38.98
SSA: 0.00

Target: Test
Distance: 1.2856% / 1.28564251 | ADC: 0.25x RC
50.7 Turk_Central_East
26.5 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
16.3 Yazidi_Kurd
3.8 Mandean
2.7 Yukagir

Turkicness:

Target: Test
Distance: 1.2142% / 1.21419683 | R3P
54.5 Armenian_West
23.8 DA87_Kimak
21.7 Greek_Cappadocia

Fits very well lol

A Russian adoptee girl from US

https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/com...i_was_adopted/

Gedrosia: 14.61
Siberian: 11.01
NW_African: 0
SE_Asian: 4.51
Atlantic_Med: 9.89
North_European: 35.36
South_Asian: 3.43
East_African: 0
SW_Asian: 2.82
East_Asian: 8.22
Caucasus: 9.98
SSA: 0.16

Distance to: NadiaKharlamova
11.24644833 Bashkir_Central
11.46265240 Lipka_Tatar
11.63734506 Bashkir_North
11.80704451 Tatar_Kazan
13.91690339 Besermyan_Udmurtia
15.42330704 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
15.64927794 Tatar_Mishar
16.38402881 Chuvash
17.10809750 Udmurt
17.51215292 Bashkir_South
19.38742892 Mari
20.83692636 Komi
21.44829597 Tatar_Siberia
23.46756059 Uzbek
24.89255109 Pamiri_Rushan
24.99784191 Pamiri_Shughnan
25.05099399 Turkmen_Afghanistan
25.07426170 Hungarian_Transylvania+Székely
25.11391248 Turk_Deliorman
25.50944335 Tajik_Mountain
25.54149956 Moldovan_Central
25.64947758 Russian_Ural
25.67241516 Moldovan_North
25.82051510 Mordovian
25.84104294 Uzbeki

Target: NadiaKharlamova
Distance: 2.4651% / 2.46514518 | ADC: 0.25x RC
45.7 Tatar_Kazan
25.4 Pamiri_Shughnan
13.7 Udmurt
8.7 Bashkir_Central
6.5 ZHUANG

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Originally Posted by Sora

A Russian adoptee girl from US
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Very interesting result, I think this person has more Gedrosia, SE-Asia and South Asia than a regular Tatar or Bashkir.

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Originally Posted by Sora

A Russian adoptee girl from US

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Thanks for posting that, I remember her. There is also her Ancestry data kit on Gedmatch, it's slightly better.

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nadia,13.43,10.42,0,3.53,9.52,36.22,4.7,0,2.33,9.01,10.75,0.06

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One of the models, reduced to 3 pops:

Target: nadia
Distance: 2.1913% / 2.19132915 | R3P
50.5 Uzbek
40.3 Finnish_East
9.2 Tajik_Panjshir&Kapisa

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Originally Posted by Gecko

Very interesting result, I think this person has more Gedrosia, SE-Asia and South Asia than a regular Tatar or Bashkir.

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She is mixed race, apparently half Uzbek and half Russian. But she does look like a Volga Tatar or an "Uralic" person.

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Originally Posted by Gecko

Very interesting result, I think this person has more Gedrosia, SE-Asia and South Asia than a regular Tatar or Bashkir.

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Originally Posted by Leto

She is mixed race, apparently half Uzbek and half Russian. But she does look like a Volga Tatar or an "Uralic" person.

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I assur she is either "1/2 Uzbek + 1/4 Tatar + 1/4 Russian" or "1/2 Uzbek + 1/2 something Uralic". Because she has (a bit) less European than average Uzbek+Russian mix and is more Siberian than East Asian, while Uzbeks have 2x more East Asian than Siberian. The previous Russian adoptee from US(apparently Uzbek+Russian) had more East Asian than Siberian also.

According to my same friend, Nadia stated her bio mom had Tatar & Kazakh roots beside Russian