Dodecad k12b West & Central Asian results Vol 4.

[Leto]

Afro-Turk(most probably half. Because s/he shared his/her Afro-Turk mom's 23andme results and she was only 8% SSA)

https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/com...rkish_results/

Gedrosia: 13.09
Siberian: 6.18
NW_African: 1.1
SE_Asian: 0
Atlantic_Med: 10.63
North_European: 14.94
South_Asian: 0.69
East_African: 2.72
SW_Asian: 8.04
East_Asian: 3.99
Caucasus: 37.25
Sub_Saharan: 1.17

Distance to: AfroTurkSonOrDaughter
6.03975165 Turk_West_BlackSea
6.17002431 Turk_Southwest
6.49219531 Turk_Northwest
7.09585090 Turk_South
7.24940687 Turk_Central_West
7.64612974 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
8.76163227 Turk_Central_East
9.87146899 Kabardin
10.41000961 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
10.74052606 Turk_Southeast
10.86660481 Abazin
11.75243804 Azerbaijani_Turkey
11.77509236 Azerbaijani
11.84343700 Kumyk
11.89455338 Circassian
12.62187783 Balkar
12.66870554 Karachay
12.67409168 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
13.33890175 Azerbaijani_Iran
13.87759345 Adyghe
14.30143000 Turk_East
14.52569448 Ingush
14.76783329 Ossetian
15.27998037 Nogai
15.64989457 Chechen

Target: AfroTurkSonOrDaughter
Distance: 1.1354% / 1.13536619 | ADC: 0.25x RC
38.2 Circassian
30.9 Turk_West_BlackSea
23.4 Turk_Northwest
3.8 Ethiopian
2.0 Dolgan
1.7 Sandawe_He

4% African doesn't make him an "Afro-Turk", that's ludicrous. In the Middle East probably most Arabs have as much and sometimes more than that. Some Iranians do too.

[Leto]

Some kits, I'll prolly add the oracles later on. You are welcome to do it too

Some Iranian, I guess Eastern

Gedrosia 30.53 Pct
Siberian 1.19 Pct
Northwest_African 0.65 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 3.34 Pct
North_European 9.49 Pct
South_Asian 5.2 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 11.18 Pct
East_Asian 3.57 Pct
Caucasus 33.38 Pct
Sub_Saharan 1.47 Pct

This might be a Talysh or a Talysh/Azeri mix. He has a Persian-style -zade surname

Gedrosia 25.5 Pct
Siberian 1.49 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 9.57 Pct
North_European 7.14 Pct
South_Asian 4.38 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 14.75 Pct
East_Asian 1.51 Pct
Caucasus 35.67 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

May be a Zaza Kurd

Gedrosia 25.43 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 7.18 Pct
North_European 4.61 Pct
South_Asian 3.56 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 14.21 Pct
East_Asian 1.48 Pct
Caucasus 43.53 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Some type of Kurd

Gedrosia 23.84 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 0.85 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 10.38 Pct
North_European 9.16 Pct
South_Asian 3.18 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 14.68 Pct
East_Asian 0.65 Pct
Caucasus 37.25 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

[Mejgusu]

Some kits, I'll prolly add the oracles later on. You are welcome to do it too

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I know some Zazas can be modeled as half Zaza/half Armenian but sometimes there are samples which are very interesting. Third one is a bit Transcaucasian shifted but still has a lot of Gedrosia/South Asia which is an indication for Iranic shift. But this person has very low European. I mean I never saw a Zaza more than 40% Caucasian.

[Kyp]

Iranian from Alborz:



Gedrosia: 24.09
Siberian: 1.91
NW_African: 1.40
SE_Asian: 0.49
Atlantic_Med: 5.29
North_European: 8.27
South Asian: 5.94
East_African: 0.00
SW_Asian: 13.37
East_Asian: 0.53
Caucasus: 38.72
SSA: 0.00

Distance to: Iran_alborz
4.24083718 Iran_Central
4.68202947 Kurd_Sorani
5.01151674 Talysh_Azerbaijan
5.09020628 Kurd_Kurmanji
5.36367411 Yazidi_Kurd
5.38774535 Kurd_Feyli
5.58673429 Azerbaijani_Iran
5.70910676 Turkmen_Iraq
5.90583610 Iranian_Fars
6.24081725 Iranian_Lur
7.00310645 Azerbaijani
7.67974609 Azerbaijani_Turkey
8.52555570 Iranian_Kerman
9.01809847 Iranian_Khorasan
9.26001620 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
9.64507128 Turk_Southeast
10.29066081 Iranian_Mazandaran
10.51069931 Udi_Azerbaijan
11.27420951 Iraqi_Baghdad
11.83601284 Turk_East
12.66977900 Turk_Central_East
13.12563141 Turk_South
13.88644303 Arab_Iran
13.91059668 Mandean
14.23446522 Turk_Central_Black_Sea

Target: Iran_alborz
Distance: 1.0840% / 1.08404306 | ADC: 0.25x RC
46.1 Kurd_Feyli
33.6 Turkmen_Iraq
16.9 Chechen
3.4 Nihali

[Leto]

I know some Zazas can be modeled as half Zaza/half Armenian but sometimes there are samples which are very interesting. Third one is a bit Transcaucasian shifted but still has a lot of Gedrosia/South Asia which is an indication for Iranic shift. But this person has very low European. I mean I never saw a Zaza more than 40% Caucasian.

Zaza average (deleted because of some idiots). N=17

Zaza,23.89,0.95,0.65,0.24,8.58,7.08,2.11,0.18,13.63,0.68,41.98,0.02

Basically 42% Caucasus.

[Altaylı]

First time i am seeing this result i found this result from an another gedmatch spreadsheet as a 8th Şereflikoçhisar result i thought there are only 7 result from my hometown

8th result from my hometown:

Gedrosia: 17.29
Siberian: 6.01
NW_African: 0.68
SE_Asian: 0.86
Atlantic_Med: 11.65
North_European: 8.28
South Asian: 0.62
East_African: 0.00
SW_Asian: 11.72
East_Asian: 3.92
Caucasus: 38.98
SSA: 0.00

Target: Test
Distance: 1.2856% / 1.28564251 | ADC: 0.25x RC
50.7 Turk_Central_East
26.5 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
16.3 Yazidi_Kurd
3.8 Mandean
2.7 Yukagir

Turkicness:

Target: Test
Distance: 1.2142% / 1.21419683 | R3P
54.5 Armenian_West
23.8 DA87_Kimak
21.7 Greek_Cappadocia

Fits very well lol

[Sora]

A Russian adoptee girl from US

https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/com...i_was_adopted/

Gedrosia: 14.61
Siberian: 11.01
NW_African: 0
SE_Asian: 4.51
Atlantic_Med: 9.89
North_European: 35.36
South_Asian: 3.43
East_African: 0
SW_Asian: 2.82
East_Asian: 8.22
Caucasus: 9.98
SSA: 0.16

Distance to: NadiaKharlamova
11.24644833 Bashkir_Central
11.46265240 Lipka_Tatar
11.63734506 Bashkir_North
11.80704451 Tatar_Kazan
13.91690339 Besermyan_Udmurtia
15.42330704 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
15.64927794 Tatar_Mishar
16.38402881 Chuvash
17.10809750 Udmurt
17.51215292 Bashkir_South
19.38742892 Mari
20.83692636 Komi
21.44829597 Tatar_Siberia
23.46756059 Uzbek
24.89255109 Pamiri_Rushan
24.99784191 Pamiri_Shughnan
25.05099399 Turkmen_Afghanistan
25.07426170 Hungarian_Transylvania+Székely
25.11391248 Turk_Deliorman
25.50944335 Tajik_Mountain
25.54149956 Moldovan_Central
25.64947758 Russian_Ural
25.67241516 Moldovan_North
25.82051510 Mordovian
25.84104294 Uzbeki

Target: NadiaKharlamova
Distance: 2.4651% / 2.46514518 | ADC: 0.25x RC
45.7 Tatar_Kazan
25.4 Pamiri_Shughnan
13.7 Udmurt
8.7 Bashkir_Central
6.5 ZHUANG

[Mejgusu]

A Russian adoptee girl from US
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Very interesting result, I think this person has more Gedrosia, SE-Asia and South Asia than a regular Tatar or Bashkir.

[Leto]

A Russian adoptee girl from US

Thanks for posting that, I remember her. There is also her Ancestry data kit on Gedmatch, it's slightly better.

nadia,13.43,10.42,0,3.53,9.52,36.22,4.7,0,2.33,9.01,10.75,0.06

One of the models, reduced to 3 pops:

Target: nadia
Distance: 2.1913% / 2.19132915 | R3P
50.5 Uzbek
40.3 Finnish_East
9.2 Tajik_Panjshir&Kapisa

Very interesting result, I think this person has more Gedrosia, SE-Asia and South Asia than a regular Tatar or Bashkir.

She is mixed race, apparently half Uzbek and half Russian. But she does look like a Volga Tatar or an "Uralic" person.

[Sora]

Very interesting result, I think this person has more Gedrosia, SE-Asia and South Asia than a regular Tatar or Bashkir.

She is mixed race, apparently half Uzbek and half Russian. But she does look like a Volga Tatar or an "Uralic" person.

I assur she is either "1/2 Uzbek + 1/4 Tatar + 1/4 Russian" or "1/2 Uzbek + 1/2 something Uralic". Because she has (a bit) less European than average Uzbek+Russian mix and is more Siberian than East Asian, while Uzbeks have 2x more East Asian than Siberian. The previous Russian adoptee from US(apparently Uzbek+Russian) had more East Asian than Siberian also.

According to my same friend, Nadia stated her bio mom had Tatar & Kazakh roots beside Russian