HU7020765
https://i.imgur.com/NIjqYv9.jpg
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HU7020765
https://i.imgur.com/NIjqYv9.jpg
T847009
https://i.imgur.com/Wyihdf1.jpg
SA4834840
https://i.imgur.com/VbWibaW.png
Some new SE or NE Macedonian kits?
RW2409609 - Kavadarci (Central part)
https://i.imgur.com/u1qkvSH.png
FULL MACEDONIANS from Skopje (North).
Note: I'm posting only Full Macedonians from Skopje and Kumanovo (Not mixed ones with Serbs and Bosnians) because in those cities is a certain percentage of mixed Macedonians with Serbs,
https://i.imgur.com/SLQvu7i.png
https://i.imgur.com/4m3SDZm.png
https://i.imgur.com/CE5a6XS.png
https://i.imgur.com/rMA3GcN.png
https://i.imgur.com/qwczBV4.png
Macedonian from Pelagonia ( E1b1b1a1b )
https://i.imgur.com/YfJOqFt.png
+MyTrueAncestry
https://i.imgur.com/yefFlaG.png
I have a feeling more Macedonians that Poles (from Poland not US) test themselves:)
Macedonian (Half from Ohrid - half from Skopje), results from DNA Genetics Admixture Studio (K13 Eurogenes) + MyTrueAncestry. (Without Gedmatch kit)
https://i.imgur.com/BqCYQum.png
Macedonian from Pelagonia
https://i.imgur.com/O7xHPnT.png
yDNA I2a2b
https://i.imgur.com/3w5bqc2.jpg
Macedonian from Veles(Central)
https://i.imgur.com/eO3ROPd.png
K15 pca for 25 Macedonians from different regions + Ancient Balkans.
https://i.imgur.com/kQ9QpkF.jpg
Macedonian from Skopje
https://i.imgur.com/wXqxF2V.png
Macedonian from Tetovo
https://i.imgur.com/hVXG9RL.png
Macedonian from Bitola
https://i.imgur.com/SkZgTx1.png
Macedonian from Bitola
https://i.imgur.com/RICcCyZ.png
Macedonian from Bitola
https://i.imgur.com/SwJ5ODL.png
Macedonian
https://i.imgur.com/hxqJCvu.png
Macedonian from Skopje
https://i.imgur.com/4hmgkBB.png
Macedonian from Skopje
https://i.imgur.com/Rbj8VKk.png
Macedonian - I2a2 mtDna J1c
https://i.imgur.com/NshQV5T.png
Macedonian - EV-13
https://i.imgur.com/QcxErcB.png
Macedonian - R1b-Z156
https://i.imgur.com/15MmTBC.png
Full Macedonian from Krusevo with the weird results :D
R1b
https://i.imgur.com/Zyjoa2C.png
Macedonian from around Krushevo mtDNA R1a ydna R1b
https://i.imgur.com/zQjMOyb.png
Macedonian mtDNA J1c2 yDNA J-M67
https://i.imgur.com/Hs1lUjP.png
Macedonian from Veles
https://i.imgur.com/vD3GWZe.png
So far by now I collected 11 Macedonians from different regions with G25 coordinates, this thread is for Gedmatch but I will post them all.
Modern Individuals top 10 closest ;
I also put them at G25 Iron Age Calculator by (Michael13141) just I added for reference Balkans_IA + HRV_IA, so Balkans_IA are BGR_IA & HRV_IA and I made Nordic and Celtic(England_IA) in one reference.Code:Distance to: Macedonian-Kumanovo
0.02500761 Bulgarian:BulgarianH2
0.02791903 Albanian:AL82
0.03347176 Greek_Macedonia:680
0.03355795 Italian_Veneto:ALP322
0.03362627 Italian_Northeast:KF2700960
0.03438258 Italian_Northeast:ALP233
0.03496871 Albanian:ALB230
0.03533859 Italian_Veneto:ALP249
0.03879563 Greek_Macedonia:674
0.03924896 Greek_Thessaly:GreeceNE144
Distance to: Macedonian-Southeast - EV-13
0.02199125 Greek_Central_Macedonia:GreeceNE8
0.02324534 Greek_Central_Macedonia:GreeceNE11
0.02429383 Greek_Central_Macedonia:GREEKGRALPOP17
0.02612429 Greek_Central_Macedonia:GreeceNE34
0.02731178 Bulgarian:Bulgaria1
0.02819070 Greek_Thessaly:GreeceNE162
0.02823234 Greek_Central_Macedonia:GREEKGRALPOP3
0.02870271 Greek_Central_Macedonia:GREEKGRALPOP8
0.02898198 Bulgarian:BulgarianD6
0.02951507 Greek_Macedonia:675
Distance to: Macedonian-Bitola - I-M423
0.02236790 Greek_Central_Macedonia:GreeceNE11
0.02287754 Greek_Central_Macedonia:GreeceNE8
0.02576781 Greek_Central_Macedonia:GREEKGRALPOP8
0.02641045 Bulgarian:BulgarianD6
0.02666057 Bulgarian:Bulgaria1
0.02816290 Greek_Central_Macedonia:GREEKGRALPOP17
0.02996837 Greek_Central_Macedonia:GreeceNE34
0.03017807 Albanian:ALB202
0.03029879 Greek_Thessaly:GreeceNE162
0.03056947 Greek_Macedonia:676
Distance to: Macedonian-Tetovo - J2-L70 (J2-L397, J2-L398)
0.02240248 Bulgarian:Bulgaria1
0.02466863 Albanian:ALB191
0.02593864 Greek_Central_Macedonia:GreeceNE11
0.02609071 Greek_Central_Macedonia:GreeceNE8
0.02728819 Albanian:ALB202
0.02913161 Bulgarian:BulgarianD6
0.02923675 Albanian:ALB213
0.03011488 Greek_Central_Macedonia:GREEKGRALPOP17
0.03040789 Greek_Central_Macedonia:GREEKGRALPOP3
0.03043561 Greek_Macedonia:676
Distance to: Macedonian-Delcevo - J-M67
0.02456493 Bulgarian:BulgarianD6
0.02729697 Greek_Central_Macedonia:GreeceNE11
0.02805270 Italian_Northeast:ALP435
0.03117547 Italian_Northeast:KF1803129
0.03166809 Greek_Central_Macedonia:GREEKGRALPOP8
0.03185386 Italian_Northeast:ALP093
0.03214896 Italian_Northeast:KF2700960
0.03224957 Italian_Northeast:KF2700922
0.03266696 Bulgarian:Bulgaria1
0.03280903 Albanian:AL82
Distance to: Macedonian-Berovo - EV-13
0.02066613 Bulgarian:Bulgaria1
0.02273661 Greek_Central_Macedonia:GreeceNE8
0.02480379 Italian_Northeast:KF2700922
0.02834046 Bulgarian:BulgarianD6
0.02861006 Greek_Central_Macedonia:GreeceNE34
0.03071594 Greek_Macedonia:676
0.03116215 Italian_Veneto:KF1803105
0.03151963 Italian_Veneto:ALP378
0.03162103 Italian_Northeast:ALP093
0.03165197 Italian_Northeast:ALP235
Distance to: Macedonian-Veles EV-13
0.02542877 Greek_Central_Macedonia:GreeceNE11
0.02793026 Albanian:ALB202
0.03282740 Greek_Macedonia:676
0.03317284 Albanian:ALB191
0.03320601 Greek_Central_Macedonia:GREEKGRALPOP11
0.03371500 Greek_Thessaly:GreeceNE162
0.03422162 Albanian:ALB213
0.03459169 Albanian:AL82
0.03511173 Bulgarian:Bulgaria1
Distance to: Macedonian-Krushevo R1b
0.02727490 Greek_Central_Macedonia:GreeceNE11
0.02825498 Bulgarian:BulgarianD6
0.02927076 Italian_Northeast:ALP435
0.02965590 Greek_Central_Macedonia:GreeceNE8
0.02971717 Italian_Northeast:KF2700960
0.02977825 Bulgarian:BulgarianF2
0.03010119 Italian_Northeast:ALP093
0.03021665 Italian_Veneto:ALP273
0.03103173 Greek_Central_Macedonia:GREEKGRALPOP8
0.03103909 Italian_Northeast:ALP233
Distance to: Macedonian-Kavadarci
0.01837921 Albanian:AL82
0.01884153 Greek_Macedonia:680
0.01989849 Greek_Central_Macedonia:GREEKGRALPOP11
0.02151955 Greek_Central_Macedonia:GreeceNE11
0.02260426 Bulgarian:BulgarianH2
0.02366826 Greek_Thessaly:GreeceNE162
0.02465237 Greek_Macedonia:674
0.02481752 Albanian:ALB230
0.02528436 Greek_Thessaly:GreeceNE144
0.02637372 Greek_Central_Macedonia:GREEKGRALPOP8
Distance to: Macedonian-Prilep/Ohrid
0.02393792 Albanian:AL82
0.02688952 Bulgarian:BulgarianH2
0.02797786 Greek_Central_Macedonia:GreeceNE11
0.02863611 Italian_Veneto:ALP322
0.02879062 Greek_Thessaly:GreeceNE144
0.02970686 Greek_Macedonia:686
0.03071383 Greek_Thessaly:GreeceNE162
0.03102799 Greek_Macedonia:680
0.03109042 Italian_Northeast:ALP233
0.03120635 Albanian:ALB230
Distance to: Macedonian-Skopje/Veles
0.02292897 Greek_Central_Macedonia:GREEKGRALPOP11
0.02596873 Greek_Central_Macedonia:GreeceNE11
0.02722301 Bulgarian:BulgarianD6
0.02956163 Greek_Thessaly:GreeceNE162
0.02972727 Greek_Central_Macedonia:GREEKGRALPOP8
0.03016975 Greek_Thessaly:GreeceNE126
0.03056364 Greek_Macedonia:675
0.03192355 Albanian:ALB191
0.03218571 Greek_Central_Macedonia:GreeceNE8
0.03225915 Italian_Piedmont:Piedmont154
https://i.imgur.com/5QdVDfj.png
Ancients top5
Code:Distance to: Macedonian-Kumanovo
0.04209663 ITA_Proto-Villanovan
0.04552139 GRC_Helladic_MBA
0.04720459 ITA_Rome_MA
0.04804745 HUN_Avar_Period
0.05283887 Scythian_MDA
Distance to: Macedonian:Southeast
0.03903125 ITA_Rome_MA
0.03947483 Scythian_MDA
0.04107087 GRC_Helladic_MBA
0.04415129 HRV_MBA
0.04498245 VK2020_ITA_Foggia_MA
Distance to: Macedonian:Bitola
0.03571115 GRC_Helladic_MBA
0.03866821 Scythian_MDA
0.04138008 ITA_Rome_MA
0.04275722 ITA_Proto-Villanovan
0.04490454 HRV_MBA
Distance to: Macedonian:Tetovo
0.04102403 Scythian_MDA
0.04196624 GRC_Helladic_MBA
0.04485019 ITA_Rome_MA
0.04511638 ITA_Proto-Villanovan
0.04755594 VK2020_ITA_Foggia_MA
Distance to: Macedonian-Delcevo
0.03874185 GRC_Helladic_MBA
0.04163745 ITA_Proto-Villanovan
0.04327105 Scythian_HUN
0.04408801 SRB_Mokrin_EBA
0.04459218 Scythian_MDA
Distance to: Macedonian-Berovo
0.04217110 HRV_MBA
0.04219040 Scythian_MDA
0.04389914 Scythian_HUN
0.04718892 ITA_Rome_MA
0.04767124 SRB_Mokrin_EBA
Distance to: Macedonian-Veles
0.03680359 Scythian_MDA
0.03775417 GRC_Helladic_MBA
0.04076103 ITA_Proto-Villanovan
0.04624978 UKR_Cimmerian_o
0.04876620 ITA_Rome_MA
Distance to: Macedonian-Krushevo
0.03818897 Scythian_MDA
0.04110064 GRC_Helladic_MBA
0.04167557 ITA_Proto-Villanovan
0.04305925 ITA_Rome_Renaissance
0.04396962 ITA_Rome_MA
Distance to: Macedonian-Kavadarci
0.02781381 GRC_Helladic_MBA
0.03323089 ITA_Proto-Villanovan
0.03478847 ITA_Rome_MA
0.04017951 Scythian_MDA
0.04118604 VK2020_ITA_Foggia_MA
Distance to: Macedonian-Prilep/Ohrid
0.02918404 GRC_Helladic_MBA
0.03255646 ITA_Proto-Villanovan
0.03792537 ITA_Rome_MA
0.04036032 Scythian_MDA
0.04077565 HRV_IA
Distance to: Macedonian-Skopje/Veles
0.03468761 GRC_Helladic_MBA
0.03738258 ITA_Rome_MA
0.04278813 Scythian_MDA
0.04305726 Levant_LBN_MA_o4
0.04354897 VK2020_ITA_Foggia_MA
Little comparation with newest sample found in Aegean Macedonia/North Greece (GRC_Helladic_Log4_MBA) vs modern Macedonian sample.
I considering this to be Brygian sample (Macedonian tribe), also this modern Macedonian sample is from Krushevo part of ancient territory where Bryges lived, based to scholars Brygians migrated to South Balkan in Middle Bronze Age.
They were Highlanders also their name is connected historically to Balkan languages;
Variants of name
Briges (Greek: Βρύγοι or Βρίγες)
Phryges (B→P)
Brygoi or Brygians (Greek: Βρύγοι Θρήικες) (Herodotus)
Berg (mountain) (German)
Breg (hill, slope, mountain) (Slavic)
I would mention Phrygians also, they were same tribe with Brygians but they migrated to Anatolia in Late Bronze Age, also Phrygians had tribe with name "Mushki" , which is again modern Balkan-Slavic word for (Brave man or Manly),Ancient accounts suggest that they first arrived from a homeland in the west (as part of the Phrygian migration), from the region of Troy, or even from as far as Macedonia, as the Bryges.
Approximately where they lived;
https://i.imgur.com/xVuiRLb.jpg
GRC Helladic Log4
Macedonian from KrushevoCode:North Atlantic 27.02 Pct
Baltic 17.23 Pct
West_Med 18.01 Pct
West_Asian 13.6 Pct
East_Med 18.4 Pct
Red_Sea 1.55 Pct
South_Asian 0.08 Pct
East_Asian 0.5 Pct
Siberian 0.83 Pct
Amerindian 2.35 Pct
Oceanian 0.3 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub_Saharan 0.13 Pct
Also Log4 sample at G25 modern individuals where modern Macedonian sample is closest;Code:Population
North_Atlantic 27.22 Pct
Baltic 20.47 Pct
West_Med 17.57 Pct
West_Asian 13.12 Pct
East_Med 17.72 Pct
Red_Sea 1.04 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian 2.08 Pct
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.78 Pct
Macedonian G25 sample closest to Log4Code:Distance to: GRC_Helladic_MBA:Log04
0.03453642 Macedonian:PrilepOhrid
0.03575904 Moldovan:MOL-024
0.03591205 Albanian:AL82
0.03662362 Macedonian:Pelagonia1
0.03667276 Macedonian:Kavadarci
0.03803680 Greek_Thessaly:GreeceNE144
0.03839074 Greek_Central_Macedonia:GreeceNE11
0.03885996 Macedonian:Veles
0.03897875 Greek_Central_Macedonia:GREEKGRALPOP11
0.03904431 Macedonian:East2
0.03920727 Rumelia_East:642
0.03927007 Greek_Central_Macedonia:GREEKGRALPOP8
This is just my point of view, maybe I'm biased who knows :)Code:Scaled
Macedonian:PrilepOhrid,0.122929,0.146236,0.023381,-0.006137,0.026774,-0.001116,-0.00376,-0.002077,-0.002454,0.018588,0.00065,0.001798,0.003717,0.010184,-0.011943,-0.008353,-0.008475,-0.000887,0.008799,-0.009004,-0.009234,0.009769,-0.000739,0.000602,-0.002395
Unscaled
Macedonian:PrilepOhrid,0.0108,0.0144,0.0062,-0.0019,0.0087,-0.0004,-0.0016,-0.0009,-0.0012,0.0102,0.0004,0.0012,0.0025,0.0074,-0.0088,-0.0063,-0.0065,-0.0007,0.007,-0.0072,-0.0074,0.0079,-0.0006,0.0005,-0.002
https://i.imgur.com/ay0HgX3.png
Veles
https://i.imgur.com/MUER3kQ.png
https://i.imgur.com/cnYG53o.png
y-dna J2
https://i.imgur.com/8CSOdu0.png
y-dna J2b2* mt-dna H1
https://i.imgur.com/CLLpFOZ.png
Skopje
https://i.imgur.com/eIFYcjN.png
Macedonians from Skopje/Kumanovo(North) 22-24 Baltic, but also there is Macedonians from Skopje with really low Baltic, but Skopje is with few highest 24 Baltic.
Also Lowest Baltic (17%) is from Skopje., these 18-19 Baltic are from Central and South parts, east and west around 20/21, but in most situations North Atlantic is bigger than Baltic in Macedonians.
Hello, my new Macedonian K13 Average from 145 gedmatch kits;
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
Code:Macedonian,22.14,21.18,20.02,11.03,21.55,2.24,0.25,0.34,0.43,0.38,0.35,0.04,0.06
3 Macedonian gedmatch results I found on Croatian forum, maybe they are posted here already, idk
two of them are E-V13, I don't know ydna of third guy
#1
North_Atlantic 23.22 Pct
Baltic 19.51 Pct
West_Med 20.62 Pct
West_Asian 10.94 Pct
East_Med 22.3 Pct
Red_Sea 2.37 Pct
South_Asian 0.78 Pct
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.25 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -
#2
North_Atlantic 22.65 Pct
Baltic 18.55 Pct
West_Med 18.93 Pct
West_Asian 10.83 Pct
East_Med 24.8 Pct
Red_Sea 3.27 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.68 Pct
Oceanian 0.28 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -
#3
North_Atlantic 28.22 Pct
Baltic 19.47 Pct
West_Med 18.63 Pct
West_Asian 13.12 Pct
East_Med 18.72 Pct
Red_Sea 1.04 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.78 Pct
No kit numbers sadly. But maybe you can ask him :)
https://www.forum.hr/showpost.php?p=...&postcount=502
https://www.forum.hr/showthread.php?t=1030297&page=26