Post your Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 results

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Originally Posted by Anglojew

I'm a fairly "Aryan" Jew.

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Yes seems like you inherited more European type genes from your Ashkenazi side than Levantine.

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Originally Posted by Jaxman

Yes seems like you inherited more European type genes from your Ashkenazi side than Levantine.

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Yeah. I'm probably part Khazar too (or at least some other Hunnic/Turkic steppe people in antiqity). I do have some Levantine ancestry though.

My results:

Population
South_Baltic 5.42%
East_Euro 11.26%
North-Central_EURO 10.68%
Atlantic 10.56%
West_Med 7.21%
West_Asian 3.07%
Middle_Eastern 3.89%
South_Asian 4.83%
East_African 2.37%
East_Asian 16.78%
Siberian 17.84%
West_African 5.68%

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Originally Posted by Martinv-Gladiator

My results:

Population
South_Baltic 5.42%
East_Euro 11.26%
North-Central_EURO 10.68%
Atlantic 10.56%
West_Med 7.21%
West_Asian 3.07%
Middle_Eastern 3.89%
South_Asian 4.83%
East_African 2.37%
East_Asian 16.78%
Siberian 17.84%
West_African 5.68%

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Wrong run.

Why?

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Originally Posted by Atlantic Islander

Wrong run.

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Originally Posted by Martinv-Gladiator

Why?

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It's not the EUtest V2 K15 run.

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Originally Posted by Atlantic Islander

Wrong run.

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That is my EUtest results

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Originally Posted by Martinv-Gladiator

That is my EUtest results

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You should post it in the EUtest thread, not this thread.

Where can i get the EUtest V2 K15 one?

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Originally Posted by Atlantic Islander

You should post it in the EUtest thread, not this thread.

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Originally Posted by Martinv-Gladiator

Where can i get the EUtest V2 K15 one?

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Do you have a gedmatch account? It's under Eurogenes and it's the newest test, so it's first on the list.

Yeah and Thanks. will go look there.

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Originally Posted by Atlantic Islander

Do you have a gedmatch account? It's under Eurogenes and it's the newest test, so it's first on the list.

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Originally Posted by Atlantic Islander

Do you have a gedmatch account? It's under Eurogenes and it's the newest test, so it's first on the list.

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Ok here they are my results:

Population
North_Sea 10.05%
Atlantic 11.31%
Baltic 2.20%
Eastern_Euro 3.07%
West_Med 10.76%
West_Asian -
East_Med 4.30%
Red_Sea 3.05%
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian 7.00%
Siberian 1.19%
Amerindian 37.85%
Oceanian 1.14%
Northeast_African 1.82%
-Saharan 6.23%

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Originally Posted by Jaxman

''Yes, somewhere in that general area. It'll be interesting to see how the German and Danish Single Grave samples from The Rise project turn out in terms of genome-wide affinities. I expect them to be North Sea-like, or at least carrying a major component that contributed to the modern North Sea cluster.''

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So are those samples going to be publicly available sometime?

Sorry to post here again. I was approved to join the Taxonomy group, however I cannot see anyone's post or make a new thread for my own taxonomy. What gives? LOL

sorry I figured it out!

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Originally Posted by Anglojew

Interesting I'm 1/4 Assyrian, Armenian, Kurdish on this one

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All of these tests seem to be picking up Mesopotamian for you rather than Levantine.....

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Originally Posted by FaerieQueene

All of these tests seem to be picking up Mesopotamian for you rather than Levantine.....

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Yeah, that's true.

The three theories are (because this relates to my haplogroup);

1. My ancestors were Iraqi Jews who migrated to Europe.

2. My ancestors were the original proto-Jews who migrated to Canaan with Abraham.

3. My ancestors were in the Babylonian captivity and then returned to Judea.


Or a combination. You're right though, I seem more Kurdish/Assyrian/Mandean than Druze/Levantine.

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Originally Posted by Anglojew

Yeah, that's true.

The three theories are (because this relates to my haplogroup);

1. My ancestors were Iraqi Jews who migrated to Europe.

2. My ancestors were the original proto-Jews who migrated to Canaan with Abraham.

3. My ancestors were in the Babylonian captivity and then returned to Judea.


Or a combination. You're right though, I seem more Kurdish/Assyrian/Mandean than Druze/Levantine.

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Yes, your Jew ancestors must have came from Babylon since you are getting lots of Assyrian/Mandean, whereas mine from Canaan since I am getting lots of Samaritan/Druze.

Oneeye:

http://i1065.photobucket.com/albums/...ps75da3d56.png





Oneeye's mother"

http://i1065.photobucket.com/albums/...ps417c24d0.png

Why does Sephardim all of a sudden comes in the 6th place, while all other calculators don't even present Sephardim in all of my (2 populations approximations) top 10?


Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Southeast_English +50% Tuscan @ 7.105
2 50% Southwest_English +50% Tuscan @ 7.438
3 50% Irish +50% Tuscan @ 7.448
4 50% French +50% Tuscan @ 7.588
5 50% German +50% Tuscan @ 7.630
6 50% Irish +50% Sephardic_Jewish @ 7.750
7 50% Tuscan +50% West_Scottish @ 7.805
8 50% Sephardic_Jewish +50% West_Scottish @ 7.907
9 50% Danish +50% Tuscan @ 7.994
10 50% Sephardic_Jewish +50% Southeast_English @ 8.243

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 62.8% Tuscan + 37.2% Irish @ 5.03
2 63.6% Tuscan + 36.4% West_Scottish @ 5.12
3 60.6% Tuscan + 39.4% Southeast_English @ 5.25
4 63.3% Tuscan + 36.7% Danish @ 5.48
5 60.5% Southwest_English + 39.5% Sephardic_Jewish @ 5.57
6 59.8% Southeast_English + 40.2% Sephardic_Jewish @ 5.64
7 60.2% Tuscan + 39.8% Southwest_English @ 5.71
8 77.8% French + 22.2% Turkish @ 5.73
9 57.5% Irish + 42.5% Sephardic_Jewish @ 5.74
10 81.5% French + 18.5% Armenian @ 5.79
11 81.5% French + 18.5% Assyrian @ 5.79
12 83.3% Spanish_Cataluna + 16.7% Georgian @ 5.8
13 80% Spanish_Cataluna + 20% Kumyk @ 5.82
14 81.3% Spanish_Cataluna + 18.7% Lezgin @ 5.93
15 82% Spanish_Cataluna + 18% Adygei @ 5.93
16 84.5% Spanish_Cataluna + 15.5% Abhkasian @ 5.97
17 80.1% French + 19.9% Lebanese_Muslim @ 5.99
18 80.6% Spanish_Murcia + 19.4% Lezgin @ 6
19 66.2% Tuscan + 33.8% Orcadian @ 6.06
20 56.6% West_Scottish + 43.4% Sephardic_Jewish @ 6.07

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Originally Posted by FaerieQueene

Yes, your Jew ancestors must have came from Babylon since you are getting lots of Assyrian/Mandean, whereas mine from Canaan since I am getting lots of Samaritan/Druze.

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Yes, you're the Israelite and I'm the Babylonian ironically.

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Originally Posted by Ruben

Why does Sephardim all of a sudden comes in the 6th place, while all other calculators don't even present Sephardim in all of my (2 populations approximations) top 10?


Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Southeast_English +50% Tuscan @ 7.105
2 50% Southwest_English +50% Tuscan @ 7.438
3 50% Irish +50% Tuscan @ 7.448
4 50% French +50% Tuscan @ 7.588
5 50% German +50% Tuscan @ 7.630
6 50% Irish +50% Sephardic_Jewish @ 7.750
7 50% Tuscan +50% West_Scottish @ 7.805
8 50% Sephardic_Jewish +50% West_Scottish @ 7.907
9 50% Danish +50% Tuscan @ 7.994
10 50% Sephardic_Jewish +50% Southeast_English @ 8.243

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 62.8% Tuscan + 37.2% Irish @ 5.03
2 63.6% Tuscan + 36.4% West_Scottish @ 5.12
3 60.6% Tuscan + 39.4% Southeast_English @ 5.25
4 63.3% Tuscan + 36.7% Danish @ 5.48
5 60.5% Southwest_English + 39.5% Sephardic_Jewish @ 5.57
6 59.8% Southeast_English + 40.2% Sephardic_Jewish @ 5.64
7 60.2% Tuscan + 39.8% Southwest_English @ 5.71
8 77.8% French + 22.2% Turkish @ 5.73
9 57.5% Irish + 42.5% Sephardic_Jewish @ 5.74
10 81.5% French + 18.5% Armenian @ 5.79
11 81.5% French + 18.5% Assyrian @ 5.79
12 83.3% Spanish_Cataluna + 16.7% Georgian @ 5.8
13 80% Spanish_Cataluna + 20% Kumyk @ 5.82
14 81.3% Spanish_Cataluna + 18.7% Lezgin @ 5.93
15 82% Spanish_Cataluna + 18% Adygei @ 5.93
16 84.5% Spanish_Cataluna + 15.5% Abhkasian @ 5.97
17 80.1% French + 19.9% Lebanese_Muslim @ 5.99
18 80.6% Spanish_Murcia + 19.4% Lezgin @ 6
19 66.2% Tuscan + 33.8% Orcadian @ 6.06
20 56.6% West_Scottish + 43.4% Sephardic_Jewish @ 6.07

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Someone will know better than me but there were lots of Sephardim in both Holland and Italy so maybe you're a member of the tribe?

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Originally Posted by Anglojew

Yes, you're the Israelite and I'm the Babylonian ironically.

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Yes, very true and very ironic. But not that ironic if you think about it.....

23andme says i'm 100 % European, and in Jtest i'm ony 5,27 % Ashkenazi, so I don't think there's a link to being partially Jewish my friend. I was hoping some people here would know if the new EUtest had more Sephardim samples.
The reason I ask this is because in no other calculator Sephardim was even mentioned, but I had on some calculators Ashkenazi after Southern Italian, Greek or Tuscan.
These calculators calculate the distance between my genome and the reference populalations they possess, am I right? So why does Sephardim comes along all of a sudden? (after Italian)
This doesn't mean that I got Sephardim ancestors, I know enough to be sure of that, but I also know that the Eutest is one of the better calculators out there on the market, so what did they adjust to get Sephardim in the list..? Oh and I don't need people to get me in their ''tribe''

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Originally Posted by Anglojew

Someone will know better than me but there were lots of Sephardim in both Holland and Italy so maybe you're a member of the tribe?

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Can you post your 2 populations approximation, instead of only 1 and 4?

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Originally Posted by Anglojew

Yeah. I'm probably part Khazar too (or at least some other Hunnic/Turkic steppe people in antiqity). I do have some Levantine ancestry though.

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these just show possible ancestries that could create your mix. not your actual ancestry. id say that Tuscan/SE England is probably close to what you are. SE England and Dutch are very close genetically.

I know that Chad, but the thing that I was pointing out is that NO other calculator incl. the older version of Eurogenes had Sephardim included..
So I would advice to read my question again, if you want to answer it. :thumb001: Oh and Tuscan isn't that accurate because it has to be Southern Italian, but I don't know the exact difference, I would guess that Tuscan samples have more Northern European, or less East Med.
Thanks anyway bud.

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Originally Posted by Chad Rohlfsen

these just show possible ancestries that could create your mix. not your actual ancestry. id say that Tuscan/SE England is probably close to what you are. SE England and Dutch are very close genetically.

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Originally Posted by Ruben

I know that Chad, but the thing that I was pointing out is that NO other calculator incl. the older version of Eurogenes had Sephardim included..
So I would advice to read my question again, if you want to answer it. :thumb001: Oh and Tuscan isn't that accurate because it has to be Southern Italian, but I don't know the exact difference, I would guess that Tuscan samples have more Northern European, or less East Med.
Thanks anyway bud.

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Well if i remember correctly Ashkenazic Jews tend to come out pretty similar to southern Italians genetically, although i don't know about Sephardim, perhaps they are fairly similar? Very minor variations in the numbers can make somewhat big differences in the mixed mode when you are dealing with similar populations i guess. If your Italian half is similar in many ways to Sephardim, it's not surprising it comes up as an option. If you have no substantial Jewish matches on 23&me or GEDmatch then probably it is not actually Jewish, but it is just a 'nearby' population? Pretty much as Chad said...

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Originally Posted by Jackson

Well if i remember correctly Ashkenazic Jews tend to come out pretty similar to southern Italians genetically, although i don't know about Sephardim, perhaps they are fairly similar? .

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Azkhenazis are closer to Southern Italians

I got maybe 1 Jewish 3rd to distant cousin on 23andme and with Declared Ashkenazi Jewish I got one guy but he's from the Netherlands also..
My first match is from Naples (0.41% shared, 2 segments) and I more than a few Southern Italian matches there. ( Campania region, but also Sicily)
Now I got some Russian matches too, but they're on the last page of dna relatives, and also significant British matches, and one guy from Kazachstan, but his ''countries of ancestry'' shows a lot of German ancestors.
In countries of ancestry Italy is nr2 after The Netherlands, and i'm not really unsure of the fact i'm half Italian anymore due to more research I did. ( my first match along with other matches for me confirmed the possibility that my biological father is from Naples, that is too much of a coinsidence, and it was either that or French)
The only thing that came in mind was the fact that I never saw Sephardic as an option before after Southern Italian/Sicilian or Greek and Tuscan.
I've noticed that on Gedmatch almost all of my matches were of Dutch/German and British decent, and some Russians, but very few Italians.

Weren't there more ways to see the differences between Jewish and Southern Italian dna ?(perhaps other calculators like K36)

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Originally Posted by Jackson

Well if i remember correctly Ashkenazic Jews tend to come out pretty similar to southern Italians genetically, although i don't know about Sephardim, perhaps they are fairly similar? Very minor variations in the numbers can make somewhat big differences in the mixed mode when you are dealing with similar populations i guess. If your Italian half is similar in many ways to Sephardim, it's not surprising it comes up as an option. If you have no substantial Jewish matches on 23&me or GEDmatch then probably it is not actually Jewish, but it is just a 'nearby' population? Pretty much as Chad said...

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The second Austian on this forum, except that I'm a West-Ukrainian boyko highlander as far as I know. Abnormally low North_Sea component for the area and very high Alantic at this:
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 21.87
2 Baltic 21.67
3 Eastern_Euro 16.3
4 North_Sea 13.34
5 West_Med 9.6
6 East_Med 9.59
7 West_Asian 5.89
8 Red_Sea 0.77
9 Northeast_African 0.5
10 Southeast_Asian 0.35
11 Amerindian 0.12

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Austrian 7.76
2 Serbian 9.77
3 Hungarian 10.78
4 Romanian 11.36
5 Polish 11.55
6 Bulgarian 12.52
7 Ukrainian_West 12.8
8 Ukrainian 13.05
9 Russian 13.58
10 Ukrainian_Northeast 13.66
11 Belorussian 14.93
12 Kargopol_Russian 17.07
13 Southwest_Finnish 17.68
14 Lithuanian 18.89
15 East_Finnish 18.89
16 Finnish 18.94
17 Erzya 19.47
18 German 19.61
19 Estonian 19.92
20 Greek 20.15

4-Ancestors Oracle

Spoiler!

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Belorussian +50% Bulgarian @ 7.000
2 50% Belorussian +50% Greek @ 7.329
3 50% Belorussian +50% Romanian @ 7.853
4 50% Belorussian +50% North_Italian @ 7.859
5 50% Bulgarian +50% Russian @ 7.908
6 50% Lithuanian +50% Tuscan @ 7.932
7 50% Lithuanian +50% North_Italian @ 7.972
8 50% Belorussian +50% Tuscan @ 8.014
9 50% North_Italian +50% Ukrainian_Northeast @ 8.020
10 50% Bulgarian +50% Polish @ 8.030
13695 iterations.



Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Belorussian +25% Greek +25% Spanish_Valencia @ 5.411
2 50% Belorussian +25% Greek +25% Southwest_French @ 5.447
3 50% Ukrainian_Northeast +25% Bulgarian +25% Spanish_Valencia @ 5.484
4 50% Belorussian +25% Bulgarian +25% Spanish_Andalucia @ 5.535
5 50% Ukrainian_Northeast +25% Greek +25% Southwest_French @ 5.551
6 50% Belorussian +25% Greek +25% Spanish_Andalucia @ 5.564
7 50% Belorussian +25% Bulgarian +25% Spanish_Valencia @ 5.611
8 50% Ukrainian_Northeast +25% Bulgarian +25% Spanish_Andalucia @ 5.681
9 50% Ukrainian_Northeast +25% Bulgarian +25% Southwest_French @ 5.716
10 50% Belorussian +25% Greek +25% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 5.731
475521 iterations.



Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Erzya + French_Basque + Greek + Lithuanian @ 5.290
2 Belorussian + Greek + Southwest_French + Ukrainian_Northeast @ 5.318
3 Greek + Lithuanian + Spanish_Valencia + Ukrainian_Northeast @ 5.348
4 Greek + Lithuanian + Southwest_French + Ukrainian_Northeast @ 5.365
5 Belorussian + Bulgarian + Spanish_Valencia + Ukrainian_Northeast @ 5.368
6 Belorussian + Belorussian + Greek + Spanish_Valencia @ 5.411
7 Belorussian + Greek + Lithuanian + Spanish_Valencia @ 5.424
8 Belorussian + Bulgarian + Spanish_Andalucia + Ukrainian_Northeast @ 5.430
9 Belorussian + Belorussian + Greek + Southwest_French @ 5.447
10 Belorussian + Greek + Spanish_Valencia + Ukrainian_Northeast @ 5.460
11 Bulgarian + Spanish_Valencia + Ukrainian_Northeast + Ukrainian_Northeast @ 5.484
12 Erzya + Greek + Lithuanian + Spanish_Valencia @ 5.520
13 Belorussian + Greek + Lithuanian + Spanish_Andalucia @ 5.527
14 Belorussian + Belorussian + Bulgarian + Spanish_Andalucia @ 5.535
15 Belorussian + Erzya + Greek + Southwest_French @ 5.550
16 Greek + Southwest_French + Ukrainian_Northeast + Ukrainian_Northeast @ 5.551
17 Belorussian + Belorussian + Greek + Spanish_Andalucia @ 5.564
18 Greek + Lithuanian + Spanish_Aragon + Ukrainian_Northeast @ 5.572
19 Belorussian + Erzya + Greek + Spanish_Valencia @ 5.582
20 Greek + Lithuanian + Spanish_Andalucia + Ukrainian_Northeast @ 5.590

Id say ask the forum members for results. One who is full southern Italian and another full askenazi in known ancestry. Maybe several to get an overall average. I'm sure there are several lurking around here. Have them post their various results. Maybe some Sephardi are lurking out there.

I have several matches with Ashkenazi's on 23andMe as well. It makes me curious since we cant find a shared ancestor. On the site describing Jtest averages, it seems every European scores Ashkenazi in small amounts. Maybe something core in Ashkenazi Jews was also in Neolithic migrants in smaller amounts. Anyone on here know the reason?

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Originally Posted by Ruben

Can you post your 2 populations approximation, instead of only 1 and 4?

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Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Ashkenazi +50% Southwest_English @ 3.392
2 50% Ashkenazi +50% Southeast_English @ 3.804
3 50% Ashkenazi +50% Irish @ 4.338
4 50% Ashkenazi +50% West_Scottish @ 4.428
5 50% Ashkenazi +50% Danish @ 4.446
6 50% Ashkenazi +50% German @ 4.516
7 50% Ashkenazi +50% Dutch @ 4.622
8 50% Ashkenazi +50% Orcadian @ 5.161
9 50% Dutch +50% Sephardic_Jewish @ 5.658
10 50% Norwegian +50% Sephardic_Jewish @ 5.676
13695 iterations.

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Originally Posted by Loki

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But stormfront says you're Jewish....

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Originally Posted by Anglojew

But stormfront says you're Jewish....

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LOL. Other tests have shown that I have zero Ashkenazi genes ... even less than the average modern European.

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Originally Posted by Anglojew

But stormfront says you're Jewish....

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Yeah he's actually less Jewish than most non-Jewish people lol, i think people on Stormfront must just decide anyone they don't like is Jewish or something?

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Originally Posted by Oneeye

Oneeye:

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Oneeye's mother"

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Just out of curiosity, did it pick up any Amerind for your mom?

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Originally Posted by Jackson

Yeah he's actually less Jewish than most non-Jewish people lol, i think people on Stormfront must just decide anyone they don't like is Jewish or something?

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This is OT, so the mods can delete it if they want, but I just can't help myself here. Last night, I was googling something about the blonde gypsy child in the news, and a stormfront thread about it showed up in the Google results. Someone was trying to claim the official who announced the child's DNA results is a Jew who was trying to cover up white outrage.