Taking Your Intended's Surname

[StevenTylerAerosmith]

That is a terrible reason not to marry someone - in general. In your case you have the only surname I consider cooler than mine, so I'll allow it.

Anyway, taking the mother's name happens in traditional Ashkenazi culture all the time. Surnames are bureaucratic nonsense for the Ashkenazi. I carry my great-great-grandmother's name, for example.

Remember, surnames were imposed by kings and whatnot for tax purposes. The true warrior is 'Longbowman son of Yankfag, Metalaphrodite daughter of Metalaphrodite's mum.' Don't put too much weight on them. The Jews haven't forgotten what a name really is. The Icelanders neither. The Scandinavians still remember it, almost. A good number of surnames were originally just that, patronymics. Harris, Harrison, Jones, etc. Indeed, Jews of nearly all communities will have Hebrew courtesy names. Mine is Shmuel Eliezer ben Mikhal Shlomo ben Tuviyah Ze'el. That's a name. No screwing about with 'Ford' or 'Shitshoveller' or whatever. What a joke. Who goes around insisting their wife change her name to 'Ford' to honour the ancestors? Maybe if you had an actually cool name, or unique name, but 95% of the time that's not the case.

but a patronymic name conveys very little about the actual family history of the bearer, dude

steven son of victor only says who steven's father was, steven tallarico says who stevens ancestors were back until italians adopted surnames in the 1400s

[Longbowman]

but a patronymic name conveys very little about the actual family history of the bearer, dude

steven son of victor only says who steven's father was, steven tallarico says who stevens ancestors were back until italians adopted surnames in the 1400s

a surname says even less. Who my father is is relevant. Who my great x9 father was is probably not relevant. Tallarico only indicates who one ancestor in the 1400s was. I mean, do you even know what Tallarico means? Probably not. Only a handful of people do.

Also, many people have names that are geographical or descriptive that applied to one distant ancestor but no longer apply to them, for instance, 'Rossi.' Most people called Rossi are not redheads.

Bro, you say some very silly things sometimes.

[Skjaldemjøden]

Why pick on 'niggerJews?' Icelanders do it to an even greater extent. You're the traitors to tradition, not us. Originally everyone used patronymics. In both Icelandic and Jewish tradition - both groups with much stronger families than normal white Americans - surnames are basically irrelevant. Besides, Ashkenazis only even bear surnames because they were forced upon them, including joke names like 'cat's elbows (Katz-ellengbogen) and 'three feet' (Dreyfus/Dreifuss), you can't expect them to give a shit (although my dad does value his). If your name is 'brown' there is no reason to be proud of that, there are five million other people with the same name. Unlike you our identity, which has survived considerably longer as a defined cultural group, is not dependent on a name.

A relative of mine wrote a memoir about life in the early 19th century. He had gotten on the bad side of the clerk tasked with assigning surnames in his community and chose to reallocate to another shtetl to avoid receiving a surname like Arsch.

[StevenTylerAerosmith]

a surname says even less. Who my father is is relevant. Who my great x9 father was is probably not relevant. Tallarico only indicates who one ancestor in the 1400s was. I mean, do you even know what Tallarico means? Probably not. Only a handful of people do.

Also, many people have names that are geographical or descriptive that applied to one distant ancestor but no longer apply to them, for instance, 'Rossi.' Most people called Rossi are not redheads.

Bro, you say some very silly things sometimes.

talarico comes from a german word that means noble power

first names are more common than surnames, and therefore less distinct

Mine is Shmuel Eliezer ben Mikhal Shlomo ben Tuviyah Ze'el

u said ur dads hebrew name is mikhail shlomo

how many mikhail/michael/miguel/michele's do u think there are in the world?

"son of michael" is not a very meaningful way of distinguishing between people

consider someone like the great italian singer pavarotti..."luciano pavarotti" is a distinct name to him..."luciano figlio di fernando" could be any of many thousands of italian men...

[StevenTylerAerosmith]

surnames also make genealogical stuff easier...much easier to y-dna test people to confirm uncertain relationships from spotty 16th century record when they all share a surname than when they all have different surnames because their fathers all had different christian names

[Longbowman]

'Michael is a common name.' Not as common as smith, brown, Garcia, Lee, etc. And if you think Miguel and Michael are the same then herriero and smith are also the same, so the numbers are even greater. Most people in the world have very common surnames. 45% of Vietnamese are called Nguyen. At this point you're wrecking your own argument.

People change their surnames all the time. My greats grandfather had a different surname to his father. They're irrelevant except as bureaucratic tools.

[Teutone]

Its a tradition for thousand years to take the husband name, so it gotta stay this way.

[itilvolga]

If there is a family, all the family members should have same surname. We live in patriarchal society so it must be husband’s surname, at least i think so

[Prinses]

I hate my own surname tbh so I prefer to steal my future husbands last name haha

[gıulıoımpa]

i approve of the spanish system